Re: [osol-discuss] Re: perf problem during nv-b18-x86 install
Joerg Schilling wrote: This looks like the generel Solaris volmgt problem that will disapear with build 19 or 20. Did you try to do the scanbus with a medium in the CD-ROM drive? Jörg No, I believe I had it working before I knew exactly why it would or wouldn't work. But, that won't solve my usage problems. I usually start xcdroast with no media in the drive. Xcdroast scans the bus, doesn't see anything and won't run. I have to turn volmgt off. If I put blank media in, Volmgt will then ask to format it, another annoyance. For me, I just use a script to turn Volmgt off when starting xcdroast and restart volmgt after burning disks. Thanks for the clarification on how and why it occurs. I now can use cdrecord/xcdroast better to my advantage now. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Laptop WIFI
Just wanted to post my findings on getting my laptop wifi working. I have an HP pavilion ze4430 which came with a Broadcom wifi mini-pci card internally. After reading about the Solaris Wireless Driver for the Atheros 52xx Chipset (ath) ref http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/ I searched ebay and came across a company that has generic mini-pci cards with the Atheros 5212 chip. I purchased the card, removed the old Broadcom card, loaded the SUNWatheros package and it just worked. This company has plenty more cards for $29.99 each as buy it now. I'm not affiliated with them, I just thought it was cheap and just worked without any glitches and some people might be interested. The link for this company store on ebay is http://stores.ebay.com/Prime-Electronic-Components . They have about 10 - 15 of them posted right now, you have to scroll through various pages to find them. Sorry if this sounded like a plug, it wasn't, I'm just so happy it works now. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Laptop WIFI
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 10:25 pm, Paul Gress wrote: I searched ebay and came across a company that has generic mini-pci cards with the Atheros 5212 chip. I purchased the card, removed the old Broadcom card, loaded the SUNWatheros package and it just worked. I've heard that some laptops won't work, and I've seen this internal at Sun also. Many laptops will allow that, but some have a proprietary mini-pci slot, such as the IBM Thinkpads I'm told. I believe that someone has replaced one of the Broadcom mini-pci cards in the Acer Ferrari 3400 with success. The link for this company store on ebay is http://stores.ebay.com/Prime-Electronic-Components . Thanks for posting that link, maybe that will help someone else out. Just be warned that some laptops have problems accepting a different mini-PCI. I have more to add. I sent an e-mail to the seller of the atheros cards and what he has to say is promising. Please note, I have not tested what is listed below, but I have no reason not to believe him. Again, use your own discretion. We don't have a list of laptops that it works with, but I can tell you this. Out of over 2000 we have sold I have only had to take back 5 of them because they wouldn't work and then it is usually an IBM that causes the problems. You are correct that some manufacturers do not use a completely standard mini-pci slot. The way I understand it is that certain pins are designated for vendor use. We have run into the problem where a card doesn't completely work. What will happen the OS will recognize the card and install the drivers, but you will not be able to pickup any wireless networks or the card will come up that the radio is off. This happens when it is installed into a machine that has a proprietary mini-pci slot. These machines are usually ones that have a hardware switch to turn the radio on and off. The manufacturers do not all wire this option the same way. All you need to do to work around it is to cover 2 pins on the card and it corrects the problem by disabling the hardware switch. I have instructions on how to do this for anyone that runs into the problem. We offer a pretty liberal return policy. Any buyers who can not get it to work are more than welcome to return it for a refund if they feel it is incompatible. Instructions below: Cover pins 11 and 13 on your m-pci wireless card (even pins are on the bottom side, the odd are on the top. For orientation, the top of the card is where you plug the two antenna in. While facing the top of the card count to pin 11 and 13. (from the cut in the card over, don't forget to count the lone pin as well 1,2) cover both pins 11 and 13 with tape (or finger nail polish) Place card back, start laptop, and you should be able to configure it from there. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: How To Mount CDROM?
powwop wrote: Hi All, the following is what I've tried for mounting, mount -F hsfs /dev/dsk/c1t0d0 /cdrom I usually mount with the command mount -F hsfs /dev/dsk/c1t0d0s2 /cdrom with these errors mount:No such device mount: cannot mount /dev/dsk/c1t0d0 mount -F iso9660 /dev/dsk/c1t0d0 with these errors mount: Operation not applicable to FSType iso9660 -F iso9660 is not an option ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Why not to use pkgsrc package system ?
Erast Benson wrote: Also putting too much in OSOL LCD(OpenSolaris least common denominator) will break distribution's individuality. So, please lets be careful here. Then maybe there needs to be another distribution. Solaris LCD. Or maybe, when installing software, you would check for common libraries before installing missing libraries. The installer should look at certain directories, then revision level of the libraries. If it uses a different library, ask if permissible. Anything to start reducing the amount of libraries would be helpful. At least, just start trying to get this task done. I've got another idea. Why not use an environment variable such as: LCD=/usr/lib:/usr/sfw/lib:/usr/local/lib Where during software installation, if the library isn't found in the LCD path, it installs its specific library. If the LCD variable isn't present, software installs as usual, just building up libraries. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] KDE Translucency
I'm trying to configure my KDE environment for its translucency. I'm using 3.4.3 compiled with Suns compilers, basically the latest version available at http://www.solaris.kde.org/. The requirements state: 1) Xorg or =to 6.8 Done, Solaris 10, Update 1 installed 2) GPU hardware-accelerated Xrender Done, Nvidia Quatro 3000, with latest graphics driver (v8178) 3) Entries into xorg.conf. Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Option RenderAccel true Done, manually entered 4) Installed the kompmgr that came with kwin. Problem. Searched the whole installation for this file, not there. Where do I retrieve this file? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] KDE Translucency
Stefan Teleman wrote: On 12/28/05, Paul Gress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4) Installed the kompmgr that came with kwin. Problem. Searched the whole installation for this file, not there. kompmgr cannot be built (yet) on S10 because the S10 Xorg 6.8.2 does not yet support XComposite, and kcompmgr requires XComposite. i have built XComposite on my own (from the Xorg sources), but it is extremely unstable and i decided against releasing it, since it would have been of very little use anyway. the situation is identical on SPARC. The XComposite is an Xorg library. Shouldn't this be Sun's responsibility to add. Are they going to have it in Xorg 6.9? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] A grand unification ?
Dennis Clarke wrote: ALL : I am certainly willing to talk. And listen. Make changes. Make peace. Here - Here, +1 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: As for the last 5 years - name 5 high profile, main stream, software titles that have come to Solaris x86 - not drivers like OSS, or plugins like Flash/Shockwave or Real, but application suites like MYOB, Peachtree accounting etc. etc. Gee, I'm using PTC Pro-Engineer on Solaris X86. http://www.ptc.com/view?im_dbkey=30874 Oracle is there. http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/htdocs/solx86soft.html Cadence is there also. http://192.203.56.67/company/newsroom/press_releases/pr.aspx?xml=010306_sun I got three right away, I'm sure more can be added easily. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Software for Solaris
Dennis Clarke wrote: Well .. that is desktop really. Domino is a server thing. Perhaps we can come up with a list here of applications that were once supported on both architectures of Solaris and have vanished. Let's also include new apps that never were supported but could be. This is just me prodding for ideas and perhaps a community driven list of apps that we would like to see in the Solaris world. That to would look something like this: Commercial Software Horizontal Vertical X86 SparcX86 Sparc Staroffice Staroffice Pro-Engineer Pro-Engineer - Framemaker Cadence Cadence - Acroreader Oracle Oracle I know I just scratched the surface, but if everybody brought forth what they can think of the list could grow substantially. We also use to have Wordperfect in both Sparc and X86 that is gone now. Would we want to list these types of software also. We also use to have Adobe Photoshop for Sparc only, now gone. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Software for Solaris (was Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86)
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: right time to do it now. Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff IMHO), the reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into question - slam Linux, then provide middleware for it. So, approximately 10 years ago when SUN purchased a permanent license instead of leasing the license every year was against Linux? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Adobe Acrobat for Solaris x86
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: Hence the reason I don't believe Sun has EVER talked to Adobe over this Acrobat issue - honestly, how many companies would turn down free money? I mean, if Scott turned up at your door step, paid you $10million in cash, and all you had to do was port an application or write a driver for Solaris x86, would you turn down the money? of course not; free money! more customers! geeze, its a gravy training rolling past the door. Hence the reason I find its an issue of Sun refusing to do something rather than an issue of 'well, we've tried, and they still refuse. I'm under the belief SUN did approach Adobe. In the mainstream CAD application Pro-Engineer (arguably the # one CAD platform) the Sparc version will output pdf drawings using Adobe libraries. The X64 version is missing this feature. PTC and SUN have to be trying to get 100% compatibility between both platforms or they need to change the source to use ghostscript to output pdf's. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Sun lost one of it's biggest and oldest x86 customer
Artem Kachitchkine wrote: I'm not talking servers but desktop clients. This means that they most likely for most of the time end up with big vendors such as Dell, IBM, Fujitsu Siemens, HP and so on. If you look closer up till recenty ALL of those business boxes came with the latest Intel chipset and CPU. 95% still do as it seems no one dares to put AMD in business PCs at a large scale. Working for the infrastructure department of a german university we also go through this once in a while. OS hardware support for this latest dies is always given for Windows as but looking at the UNIX side it gets much harder and Linux distros and developers to a pretty good job there. Even FreeBSD and the others are behind so no wonder that the small but very enthusiastic OpenSolaris community cannot really keep up coding for new chipsets and on-board devices. Even if they could I doubt such customers would go for it as Linux is just more hip and decision makers for sure don't get grilled for picking it. Maybe those people would even consider OpenSolaris not ready for business. Most of this paragraph was building up to a valid point, but the ending kind of ruined it for me :) You talk about business needs, but suddenly all that doesn't matter since Linux is hipper anyway. Is that what decision makers are paid for these days? And I've heard the you can't go wrong with IBM mantra, but it's the first time I hear of Linux as a safe bet. Not possessing any real data I can't disagree here, but it sounds a bit depressing. While I agree this is true today, I believe Solaris will win in the long run. What it has now, that Linux doesn't have, is a stable ABI. More commercial software will be ported due to this fact. It appears in a reasonable amount of time Solaris will have most of the gnu software running. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: desktop responsiveness: solaris vs linux
Patrick wrote: ok, that sounds logical, but i just did a dmesg and i get this pertaining to the CD drive: Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 640982 kern.info] ATAPI device at targ 0, lun 0 lastlun 0x0 Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 846691 kern.info] model MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-845S Jul 10 22:54:59 desiderata genunix: [ID 479077 kern.info] ATA/ATAPI-6 supported, majver 0x78 minver 0x0 Jul 10 22:55:01 desiderata npe: [ID 236367 kern.info] PCI Express-device: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ata1 Jul 10 22:55:01 desiderata genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] ata1 is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 10 22:55:02 desiderata genunix: [ID 773945 kern.info] UltraDMA mode 2 selected that looks like its already using DMA for the CD. am i correct assuming this? thanks! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org This is what I get with my W2100z Jul 11 00:13:26 Solaris-0 genunix: [ID 640982 kern.info]ATAPI device at targ 0, lun 0 lastlun 0x0 Jul 11 00:13:26 Solaris-0 genunix: [ID 846691 kern.info]model SONYDVD RW DRU-720A Jul 11 00:13:26 Solaris-0 genunix: [ID 479077 kern.info] ATA/ATAPI-5 supported, majver 0x20 minver 0x0 Jul 11 00:13:29 Solaris-0 pci: [ID 370704 kern.info] PCI-device: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ata1 Jul 11 00:13:29 Solaris-0 genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] ata1 is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 11 00:13:29 Solaris-0 genunix: [ID 773945 kern.info]UltraDMA mode 4 selected So it looks like you may be using DMA for your CD. I also found this link to a chart for the different DMA modes. http://bugclub.org/beginners/miscellaneous/udma.html Also, if I type /usr/sbin/eeprom at the prompt: ata-dma-enabled=1 atapi-cd-dma-enabled=1 Do you also get =1 Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] problem with Installing web browser opera 9
Teng wrote: Hi all, I just try to install web browser opera9 on my IBM laptop R52. The software be installed without any error, but when I try to run it, /usr/local/bin/opera It tells me: - Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified - Its looks like some problem with the X server? My OS is : Solaris 10 X86 fresh, Sun java desktop system for solaris. The default web browser which come with Solaris10 works well. Thank you in advanced. Cheers, Teng Way in the past I've had this problem. I believe it had something to do with one of these three files. .TTauthority .Xauthority .ICEauthority The way I found was researching the error messages in: /usr/HOME/.dt/errorlog /usr/HOME/.dt/startlog Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How to mute internal speaker
Raymond wrote: Sorry it doesn't help. The problem is when I play audio files, the sound is coming from the internal speaker. I want to disable this, however mixerctl command does not support it, it only displays the status of the device and various fields in audio_info_t structure. Why couldn't they just add a few options to mixerctl to disable audio output to headphones, speaker, line and other ouput devices. Put this in your .profile audioplay -p line ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Differences between Vermillion and Community Edition
OK, I'm a little confused and I hope someone can set me straight. I was prepared to install build 62 in my laptop tonight so I can set it up to boot off of the ZFS. Upon so, I could only find Solaris Express Community Edition (SXCE) Build 61 and Vermillion 62. What is the difference? If I install SXCE 61 then Vermillion 62 on top of that, is that the same as SXCE 62? BTW, I found: SXCE 61 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/ Vermillion 62 http://dlc.sun.com/osol/jds/downloads/current/ Thanks, Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Request for Community Comment: An
MC wrote: A break from your server discussion because I stubbed my toe on this one: Office functionality, and better, and then some, is provided for by OpenOffice. I'm all for positive thinking. But don't delude yourself -- OpenOffice (and StarOffice for that matter) is not better than Office 2007. Even the free software community doesn't agree that OpenOffice is a great thing. The other day I saw a Mark Shuttleworth quote, i think AbiWord, and KOffice would be slicker, faster, lighter [than OpenOffice] if they had more developer time. I've been using Staroffice now for 5 years. I use to believe it was equal to MSOffice 2003, there was nothing I couldn't duplicate that was done in MSOffice that I couldn't do in StarOffice. As a matter of fact, I could do more with the spreadsheets, Staroffice has more functions. So now that MS released Office 2007, Staroffice is better now. MS totally screwed the user interface, you need to learn a completely new user interface. I also have no speed problems with Staroffice, I have it running on a Blade 2500 (Solaris 10), W2100z (Solaris 10) and an HP laptop (Solaris Express 62), for the laptop, it's not blazing fast, single cored AMD, ATI Graphics (no 3D) and a 1.8 gig processor speed, and it's very acceptable to use. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [desktop-discuss] Re: New project: JPack - install
MC wrote: the SUNW is part of the package name, it's also what the pkg commands expect[s] But does that matter for a graphical app like this? I haven't used it yet, but almost every package having SUNW on the front in the GUI doesn't help me at all, I'm pretty sure. I tend to agree that it doesn't matter in a GUI tool. Maybe to help is instead of putting Installed Solaris Packages in a tab, you could just put SUNW there and for Blastwave packages tab just put CSW or maybe add a button to toggle the information back and forth of just have a preference feature to display it a particular way. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: [desktop-discuss] New project: JPack - install your software easily !
Michal Pryc wrote: Hello, I would like to announce a new project called JPack, which will provide a GUI application for managing different types of packages for Solaris Operating System. for more information: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/jds/tasks/jpack/ and http://blogs.sun.com/migi/entry/jpack_install_your_software_easily Please let me know what do you think about it. This looks great to me. I also like the idea of plugins for other package systems (such as sunfreeware). Some of my ideas for improvement are: CSW packages. If I want to install, can it scan the web to list available packages. Then this is the big one, for its dependencies can it scan all available libraries and place a link in CSW lib to location of an alternate dependency. Maybe this can be a good start to alleviate the dependency nightmare. Maybe there can be a search engine, so I can search for a particular package and it would search all available package repositories, including source and from plugins then give me a choice how and where I would like to install it. Also what would be a nice feature is if a package is missing a dependency or a package is corrupt an explanation point in a yellow triangle would appear next to the package to indicate it is in need of repair (prodreg does this with corrupt packages). I noticed at the bottom it says You are not root, you cannot add/delete packages Maybe you can add a password manager like in Firefox to automatically add login, or a setup for sudo, or just a plain login to root. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro
Alan Burlison wrote: Steve Lau has explained this very clearly, perhaps there should be a link to his diagram on the download page... http://whacked.net/2007/02/13/opensolarissolaris-relationships/ The way I see it, is all the distributions have their own theme. SXCE - SXDE - S11 is Suns theme, their installer, Gnome and CDE Nexenta, their theme is GNU and so on. The OpenSolaris reference binary can be what everybody says is needed. People gripe about the desktop, they want KDE and XFCE. Why couldn't these be part of the distribution? The only catch is any binary added should be from an OpenSolaris project or source. It would be great to get Blastwave as an OpenSolaris Project so all the dependencies would be consolidated. I see this as being good, if mostly everyone cooperates. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Do we even need a reference OpenSolaris binary distro
Brian Gupta wrote: This would be great, except that blastwave is built for Solaris 8, not OpenSolaris. It probably not best to be dependent on what Solaris 8 does not have. What is needed is a Blastwave II (OpenSolaris Edition) which combines the current work done in Blastwave and the build scripts/patches SFE and PMPKG etc. Thats what I meant to say. You couldn't consolidate the dependencies unless it were integrated properly into the OpenSolaris reference. Dennis has said on numerous occasions that he is willing to work with OS.O to standardize a pathing, and packaging scheme. He is waiting for the invitiation. -Brian Maybe this project will be the start of integrating all the projects into one distribution and possibly starting Blastwave integration. Obviously, if this were the case, you may not want to install everything. So a good installer is needed. I'm not up on all the projects, I believe there is an installer project. This may be the project to sync all other projects to come together. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Семёнов Владимир Викторович wrote: Вообще странно знать, что Вы не должны менять permissions в OpenSolaris - открытой системе! ;) Ещё более непонятно ограничения для суперпользователя! Для чего тогда он нужен? Если devfs живёт по своим законам, то всёравно должен быть способ этим управлять, потому что человек глобалнее чем машина. Я кстати понимаю что тут серьёзные вещи обсуждаются, но почему бы легко не разрешить мою причуду, Advanced Users? chmod -R 755 /dev Access Denide :( SunOS 5.1 Belenix You must be root to change the permissions. Either su to root or login as root. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Unix belongs to Novell - any impact for Solaris?
Al wrote: [b]McNeely: We had to pay SCO more money so we could open the code. [/b] Nobody here has yet explained how Sun managed to legitimately open-source code without getting permission from Novell. The fact that SCO agreed to this and Sun paid them money to do so seems to be irrelevant in light of the recent court decision. The way I remember it, Sun purchased the rights from ATT for Unix v4.0 and SCO purchased the rights from ATT for Unix v4.2. Sun owned just as much Unix as SCO. Since there was code that SCO contributed, Sun needed to pay SCO for these rights. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a restart option button?
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Hi, is there a restart option button in Solaris 10? No. But if you are running a stand-alone Solaris desktop you can improvise by changing the sticky bit of the /usr/sbin/reboot script, and creating a desktop launcher. For me, I just created a Launcher with: /opt/sfw/bin/sudo /usr/sbin/init 6 and called it Reboot Please note, you may need to install sudo and/or find where you have sudo installed. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Is there a restart option button?
John Sonnenschein wrote: or alternately, use facilities already in solaris so you don't have to use hackish things such as sudo ;) with RBAC you can make it so your regular login user has privileges to reboot/poweroff the machine On 7-Nov-07, at 4:34 PM, Paul Gress wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but whats RBAC? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Aaron Wilson wrote: Probably the wrong group to ask so I apologize, but has any one tried running Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5? One of our workstations is having issues, and it sort of looking like reinstalling Solaris 10 might be the only option left. If I'm gonna do that though, I might as well install OpenSolaris 2008.5, granted Pro/E will work. I hate going over to the PTC site and asking questions. When I deal with PTC the answer to every question starts with click on Start I can tell them ten times in a row I'm using Solaris x64, and they just can't comprehend that doesn't mean Windows. I have tried Wildfire 3.0 build M070 as recently as build snv_77, without problems, but I'm sure theres major differences between snv_77 and OpenSolaris 2008.5. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Well I've got Pro/E Wildfire 4 running on b89 (not OpenSolaris 2008.5). I should be upgrading to 90 tomorrow. The only issue I have found so far is window focus. If you switch from the task bar it brings the window to the front, but not active. If you switch from the window tab (part of the main toolbar at the top) it changes it to an active window, but still in the background. You have to switch both places to bring up the correct window to focus. This is in gnome. Don't use the Workspace Switcher (if you have more then one pro/e window open), if you do, then switch back to your Pro/E session, the window focus will jump around and always lands on the wrong active window. Other then the window focus issues, basically no problems. I hoping when Adobe releases acroreader, we will now get the pdf capability to X64 then. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Pro/E Wildfire on OpenSolaris 2008.5?
Calum Benson wrote: On 4 Jun 2008, at 21:10, Aaron Wilson wrote: Good point. Is there way to tell if I'm currently using Motif? Ah, Pro/E Wildifire... that brings back memories, I used to work for PTC :) (But not on Pro/E...) One way to tell if an application depends on Motif would be to run: ldd /path/to/application | grep libXm.so and see if you get any output; if you do, the app depends on the Motif library. (Be sure to run the ldd command on the actual application binary rather than any wrapper script that might be used to launch it, though.) Cheeri, Calum. Here is the output for Wildfire 4: $ ldd /Disk1/Binaries/Pro_Engineer/WildFire_4/sun_solaris_x64/obj/pro | grep libXm.so libXm.so.4 =/usr/dt/lib/64/libXm.so.4 So it looks like it still uses Motif. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OS2008.05, OpenOffice: Fonts, License?
Shawn Walker wrote: [Fonts] Check the Font tab in the Appearance control panel. You'll want to enable the subpixel setting more than likely. Indeed tweaking around these settings did help, thanks. It seems however that these settings never directly change the appearance of openoffice itself just just help making the fonts in all other applications and the desktop itself look more like those in openoffice. What does make openoffice special here (the same behaviour does appear with both the oo.org and the IPS packages)? That I can't answer. Did you try restarting OO after changing the settings? I'm not certain what OO uses for its font settings... Another area to fiddle with is in OpenOffice Tools menu. Click: Tools - Options - OOo - View There are some font antialiasing setting there also. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] USB drive for Linux - OS migration: file system?
Kristian Rink wrote: Folks; another migration-related question: I do have a fairly well sized USB drive to hold data so far to share between Linux, Windows and OpenSolaris, thus the lowest common denominator (in terms of file systems) being FAT32. Taken into account I do have also to backup a few VirtualBox images (which are larger than FAT32 allows), I will have to reformat this drive anyhow, so my question: What kind of file system would suit best the need of being written to in Linux _and_ read from in OpenSolaris? (This is just for the migration of config and some data indeed, I'll have to go for FAT32 again after for the Windows situations anyhow...). Comments, anyone? TIA and best regards, Kristian You could try the Universal Disk Format (UDF). I believe all three platforms should support it. Check into this. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] nv93 available - thank you!
Uwe Dippel wrote: Just started my download of nv93. Noted that the size has pretty much shrunk, to 2915200 kB. While this is good for the download, may I ask if we can expect leaner code, or have certain items been removed? Well for one, Sun Studio has been removed, or I just can't find it now. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Hi Waynel Please don't get me wrong. I myself am responsible for driving openoffice adoption at my work place. I myself have gone from wordstar to word perfect (5.02) to word and then I used star office before openoffice existed. But because I have also worked with documentation team, I have seen first hand at what word processors excel at and what they don't (my personal opinion). Glad to know that someone here has also used WordPerfect. :-) We still have a sizable number of hardcore WP loyalists gathering together at wpuniverse.com . To me, this is still the best wordprocessing software in the history of mankind, only to be betrayed by its owners. Excellent lesson not to be addicted to close sourced software. I use to use WordPerfect for Unix on both Solaris X86 and Sparc until Solaris 8, where it just refused to work anymore. As I upgraded Solaris, Wordperfect stopped. Reinstalling Solaris (fresh) then installing Wordperfect didn't work. So I started using Staroffice 6 and have been using it since with good results. I can make it do anything that MS Word can do, and more. You are right, it was betrayed starting when Novel purchased it (maybe Wordperfect for selling it). ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] irefox 3.0.1 contrib. builds for Solaris10 hungs when printing is attempted
Aaron Wilson wrote: Works fine for me when printing. Solaris 10 U5 using blastwave cups to manage print jobs. I don't think the latter really matters though since FF 3.01 just uses lpr to print, though I am using the blastwave version of lpr and lp too. Locks up for me with Blastwave Cups on Solaris 10, and a W2100z computer. On my Sparc (Solaris 10), it works. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] snv_98 iso
Bill Shannon wrote: On a different but related topic... I downloaded the snv_98 iso, burned it to DVD (it wouldn't fit on a CD), but when I try to boot on an old Dell 4550 it fails in a different way each time I try - sometimes disk errors, sometimes some problem with some service, sometimes other things, all really weird failures. An old 2008.05 CD that I burned boots and runs just fine. Did I make a mistake by burning it to DVD? I'm going to try installing 2008.05 and upgrade my way to snv_98. One thing I've noticed on an old laptop I had is that it couldn't read DVD +. I had to reburn it on a DVD -. Again, the very first DVD readers did not read DVD + format, which is almost forgotten today. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b100 release date?
Matt Wilby wrote: No note explaining the delay. Not very 'open' is it? b101 on consolidation doesn't contain all the files either. Not comparing Opensolaris with Linux or BSD for a minute, but at least with something like OpenSUSE you get a basic explanation for delays in releases. I'm not a developer, just a Sys Admin with an appreciation for good technology. Not communicating with the community is quite off putting. -- The way I see it, is they stated they would have gnome 24 in release 101 and they are fixing the font problems after removing numerous fonts and installing freely available fonts. So it must be taking a little longer then expected to complete these tasks. This is all my opinion, not based on fact, but this is how I see it. Give them a little time, all will be great when it's all resolved. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] *LOL* : - Xorg on SPARC will not work with any driver except the included wsfb (which only works on m64 graphics in 8-bit mode) unless you get updated matching driver packages from
Martin Bochnig wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: ***LOL***: And here I thought the part you'd appreciate most was going to be that no one downloaded the builds I announced either No, why should I? The lack of interest on the ( only SPARC?) side of this community's user base is frustrating. To you, to me, to anybody who works or has worked on it and then nobody even downloaded it:-( I need space in my living room. I already took all SPARC testing boxes (all!!!) and put them into the basement (w/o any wiring). Except a wonder happens and at least 23 people tell me that they are interested in seeing the merge of the legacy SPARC drivers (#0) into Xorg 1.5.x++ (or if I finally get a symbolic unpaid job at Sun, which always had been my dream), I list them on ebay, or directly throw them away (to save time and work). They are pretty much worthless in contrast to what I once had paid for them. (#0) http://opensolaris.org/os/project/fox/SPARC-Xorg/ Martin Bochnig I for one would be very interested, but unfortunately, I use a Blade 2500 with the XVR1200 Graphics card. To add fuel to the fire, I just recently found out Parametric Technologies (manufacturer of MCAD software Pro-Engineer) does not support the Sparc Workstation for WF5 (they have released a pre version as of now). They are only supporting the X64 Solaris (thank god, there is a Unix flavor still available). The X64 version has many feature missing that were available on the Sparc Platform. So reluctantly, it appears that X64 may be in my future. Cannot Sun add to their OBP a layer to use standard graphics cards? Unless Sun does that, it appears the Sparc Workstation me become extinct. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?
Michael Schuster wrote: Fredrich Maney wrote: I want Sun and the Solaris and OpenSolaris communities to realize that they have, bar none, the best OS on the planet You're preaching to the choir :-) it's the people who aren't in these communities that we want to convince, and - or so I understand - giving them something (a lot of) them are familiar with (even if it's inferiour to what many of us know) was seen as a valid step in that direction. thx for the support! Michael I've been reading this thread for a while now. Some of my thoughts are why can't you deliver both. In the install, just ask which personality/flavor you want solaris classic or gnu. It's just a simple PATH variable to have it. If you really want to get creative, give a third choice, a mix to your liking, just link which binaries are chosen to a different directory, then put that directory first in the PATH variable. If you keep a text file of these links any future updates can read this and accommodate the new personality. One could even create a gui configuration to map out the personality that future updates can read. Now you have Opensolaris that can satisfy any user. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to install a font?
Woong Bin Kang wrote: Open Nautilus window. Go to your home directory. Press Ctrl+H to show all hidden directories. If not present, create a directory called .fonts (mkdir .fonts) Copy your font files to that directory. You should be able to see fonts added now. Woongbin I'm not sure if Solaris can read .otf fonts. Also, is there a more universal location (not home and not /usr/X11/lib/fonts) to install user fonts for all users? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Copying files and folders
Hanma wrote: Opera works, but there is no icons anywhere. The last problem is icons, i don't understand, why installation can't create icons? I've alway been installing Opera as they update it. I also get the problem with no icons, for many releases earlier and current. It is only a problem with icons, opera will run fine. When I create a launch icon for opera, I just choose a stock icon. If you need the opera icon I can send it for you to manually install. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Acroreader 9.1
Hi all, I just decided to check Adobe's ftp directory for acroreader and a new directory was posted for v9.1. It contains both x86 and x64 versions of acroreader. What it does not contain is a Sparc version. ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.1/enu/ Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] could ZFS be used to replace FAT/FAT32 in removeable media
casper@sun.com wrote: There are many reasons why this doesn't fly: - First of all you will need to build away to easily, automatically import and export removable ZFS pools - Installed base (windows, USB, cameras) - pcfs uses about 1/10 of the code needed for support zfs and it doesn't need as much memory as zfs does. - Microsoft owns pcfs, so there's no point for them to change windows - Porting a filesystem is a lot more difficult. I have to disagree with this in part. Yes, with all consumer devices you currently need the pcfs. But for computers no. What I don't understand is why Sun won't port the ZFS to Windows and sell it for creation and free for reading. This way I can use it exclusively for storage on all PC's and share with other people on Windows computers. It's clear Solaris is deficient in reading writing to the pc file system. I have already put ZFS on memory sticks and like it very much. It gets even better when you compress it and encrypt it. I see it completely taking over PC's and Servers using Windows, if it were available. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] what do you use for vector graphics?
Craig van Vliet wrote: Hi Coming from windows I previously used illustrator, then in ubuntu it was inkscape and xara extreme. These packages aren't available (yet??), so what do people use to draw pictures. If they are working in an opensolaris only environment? Cheers Craig I use Openoffice - Draw. Seems pretty full featured to me. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] How to copy DVD?
Andrius wrote: How to copy DVDs in OpenSolaris? http://www.sunfreepacks.com/listing/?limit=10offset=20 Your looking for dvdbackup-0.1.1. Project is at http://dvd-create.sourceforge.net/ Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Java Desktop
Mark Breecher wrote: Thanks for the reply, On the the Solaris Distribution from Sun.com you of course have a choice of either the Java Desktop System or CDE. Well I realize that you have stopped developing CDE (which is a shame) but the GNOME desktop is nothing like Java Desktop System on Solaris 10? Is it possible to have this desktop version on Open Solaris. Perhaps i'm being over picky on something trivial but its just that I hate GNOME, it reminds me of Linux. Are you saying that this is the future of the Java Desktop System? Thanks again Mark The Java Desktop is Gnome 2.6 with the Blueprint theme chosen. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Nvidia driver 180.60 available
John Martin wrote: ken mays wrote: Hello, Seems like if you run into issues running a certain application with OS 2009.06 (i.e. using Nvidia driver 180.44), Nvidia has proved an updated 180.60 driver at: ftp://download.nvidia.com/solaris/180.60/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-180.60.run Normal warnings apply. The drivers from the NVIDIA web page don't have some of the fixes and enhancements provided by Sun. The above driver is not aware of the IPS installer, xVM dom0, fast reboot, ... If you want to try the latest R180 driver in SYSV package format grab: http://home.comcast.net/~jdmartin99/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-180.62-xVM.run I'm leaning toward delivering the R185 release driver in b117. That would make it available for the second SRU release for 2009.06 and since it comes from the IPS repository is the desired method. I can make this available when NVIDIA pushes their driver. I am currently using the 185 series of drivers (185.18.10). My notes: 185.18.14 - produced some sort of flickering or random refreshing that was visible 185.19 - Caused Pro-Engineer to Seg Fault upon startup. So, please if your going to use it, use 185.18.10 as that version seems stable (at least for me). Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] 2009.06 dev (B117) FlashPlayer plugin sound
John Martin wrote: To verify, go to: http://www.thomasandfriends.com/usa/videos.asp right click in the video window and choose About flash Does it say you have 10,0,22,87? [You can also do this by typing about:plugs in the browser]. That should be about:plugins. Also, about:plugins will only show 10.0 r22. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Issue with adobe flash player
Alex wrote: I try to put the adobe flash player 10 .so for x86 in my mozilla folder, reset firefox like it asks, and test the plugin, but every time I do it doesn't work. Does anyone have an idea why this doesn't work/ a way to help? Mine works with SXCE 117. You didn't mention about the flashplayer.xpt being there. This is what I have below: $ ls -al /Home_Directory/.mozilla/plugins total 21164 drwxr-xr-x 2 Paul other512 Jun 21 19:38 . drwx-- 6 Paul other512 Apr 4 22:53 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 Paul other856 Dec 27 2007 flashplayer.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 Paul other10816012 Feb 20 04:44 libflashplayer.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 Nov 30 2008 libjavaplugin_oji.so - /usr/java/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Mar 28 00:43 nphelix.so - /usr/lib/RealPlay/firefox/nphelix.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Mar 28 00:45 nphelix.xpt - /usr/lib/RealPlay/firefox/nphelix.xpt $ Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ClearType available for OpenSolaris?
Orvar Korvar wrote: I dont get that. I can not find any Main Menu Main Menu All Applications System Tools Configuration Editor I only have three menus, Program, Places and System. There is no main menu. Anyway, In the picture above in the first post here, I think Windows XP looks far better. I havent been able to mimic that look in OpenSolaris. Now I tried to install Ubuntu inside VirtualBox 2.2.4 and also Ubuntu looks better than OpenSolaris. Why is that? Does OpenSolaris have bad fonts or what is the problem? Just curious. I believe I was the one who wrote that. On my computer I changed the Icon (/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/sun-start-here.png) in the main menu or what ever it's called. In windows it's called start. So, I don't remember what it's called. It can be placed in a the gnome-panel simply by: right click in the gnome-panel click Add to Panel scroll down and double click Main Menu This brings up the Main Menu where you can follow it to the configuration editor as shown above. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] firefox 3.5 for OpenSolaris, where can i get them?
Joerg Schilling wrote: Alex Smith (K4RNT) shadowhun...@gmail.com wrote: Just did a pkgadd -d on the package, and ran /opt/sfw/bin/firefox directly. I changed my launchers in GNOME to launch the new Firefox. The old Firefox still exists on my machine. This is what I did too and this was needed because the firefox that comes with SXCE in /usr/bin does not work at all. Jörg I just downloaded the 3.5.1 release from this link: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/communities/mozilla/development/ It's the tarball version, but it appears to be working properly for me on SXCE 117. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Killer new feature- Midoris in Jaris!!!
Matthew Nawrocki wrote: Hmm... hey dude, you might want to check out the downloads section on Wine's project website (http://winehq.org/) and, lo' and behold, is a link to the OpenSolaris package download. I didn't see a development release package, but at least there is something to try. Matt Unfortunately, the winehq has the link broken, it should be: http://www.sunfreepacks.com/listing/?limit=10offset=20 I can confirm that wine version works for me. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Killer new feature- Midoris in Jaris!!!
Thommy M. Malmström wrote: I can confirm that wine version works for me. Have you got Spotify running on it? Installed it, got to the sign in prompt, have no sign in. Went to web site, not available in my country, USA. Can't answer you, sorry. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Anybody in OpenSolaris land run in to this bug in Open Office?
Anon Y Mous wrote: I've had users complain about this bug before: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/16/openoffice_autofilter_bug_feature/ The reason I'm bringing it up in OpenSolaris discuss is because my long term goal in life is to eventually get every installed copy of Microsoft Office that exists in the world replaced with a copy of Open Office, but this bug is one of the things that I think unfortunately stands in the way of mass adoption of OOo and a mass migration away from Microsoft Office in the enterprise. Here's the bug ID's: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2977 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=33851 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=89232 Anybody know if this was ever fixed? If it was, in what version was it fixed in? This bug has been floating around in one form or another for almost 7 and a half years now. I followed the instructions in 2977 and the text XX was still intact. This was with the development edition dev300_m53 (future v3.2). http://download.openoffice.org/next/index.html Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Anybody in OpenSolaris land run in to this bug in Open Office?
Thommy M. Malmström wrote: I followed the instructions in 2977 and the text XX was still intact. This was with the development edition dev300_m53 (future v3.2). How can I have both a stable OOo 3.1 and a development OOo version installed at the same time in OpenSolaris 2009.06? If you install it from their setup/upgrade utilities (basically a pkgadd/pkgrm script) it should be able to live along side the released product. $ ls -al /opt ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:54 ooo-dev drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:52 ooo-dev3 drwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org3 ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 Jun 15 23:26 staroffice8 $ Staroffice8 shares the openoffice.org directory. As you can see the development directory is separate from the openoffice 3.1 (openoffice.org3) directory. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] [Fwd: Re: Anybody in OpenSolaris land run in to this bug in Open Office?]
Sorry, I stripped out a directory in /opt, is should have read: $ ls -al /opt ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:54 ooo-dev drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:52 ooo-dev3 drwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org3 ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 Jun 15 23:26 staroffice8 drwxr-xr-x 6 root bin 512 Jun 15 23:50 staroffice9 $ ---BeginMessage--- Thommy M. Malmström wrote: I followed the instructions in 2977 and the text XX was still intact. This was with the development edition dev300_m53 (future v3.2). How can I have both a stable OOo 3.1 and a development OOo version installed at the same time in OpenSolaris 2009.06? If you install it from their setup/upgrade utilities (basically a pkgadd/pkgrm script) it should be able to live along side the released product. $ ls -al /opt ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:54 ooo-dev drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Jul 24 11:52 ooo-dev3 drwxr-xr-x 5 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org drwxr-xr-x 7 root bin 512 Apr 30 12:29 openoffice.org3 ... ... drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 512 Jun 15 23:26 staroffice8 $ Staroffice8 shares the openoffice.org directory. As you can see the development directory is separate from the openoffice 3.1 (openoffice.org3) directory. ---End Message--- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)
casper@sun.com wrote: The point is that they don't *need* or have to be in the installer. They're just as beneficial and useful at firstboot, in a Visual Panel, or somewhere else. There is no overwhelmingly great reason to force them to be part of the install process. Installation should be about installation and the minimum amount of configuration to get the system going. Anything beyond that is a pollution of the process IMO. Our customers want an hands-off install; an install which can be customized to a point where the system reboots and nothing needs to be done. Visual panels do not work when you need to install 100s of systems. The fact that you are required to configure a system after it is installed is a bug. Any system which requires post-install configuration is broken to a point that is not usable. Just a thought, couldn't you use a USB Stick to save configuration files, so the next 99 installs take data from there? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OT: Re: Oracle 10g on OpenSolaris (Solaris 5.11)
Volker A. Brandt wrote: Visual panels do not work when you need to install 100s of systems. Just a thought, couldn't you use a USB Stick to save configuration files, so the next 99 installs take data from there? Hmmm the 100s of systems will usually be installed *simultaneously*. Also, it's no fun to crawl through a datacenter and plug a stick into a server at rack unit #0 :-) Regards -- Volker Me being an Electro/Mechanical Engineer have designed robotic systems that have a feature called gear following. What that means, is if one motor spins another motor will follow it exactly step by step by using optical encoders to tell the position of each motor. The following motor can be programmed to multiply steps or divide steps to follow as if gears were in place. So, why couldn't the other 99 computer follow the lead of the first computer? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE end-of-life plans
Mike DeMarco wrote: I believe Oct is the right time for this! Middle of Hurricane season. This is looking like a monumental disaster! I am too am running SXCE and nervous about changing to Opensolaris. I knew it would happen someday. No matter what day, week, month or year for changing, it will always be wrong for somebody. So now I have some planning and research to do for changing over. I've done it before when changing whole computers from old ones to new ones, it can be done, just with a lot of work. On the good side, Sun said they will provide some scripts to aid in the change trying to make it like an upgrade. I'm waiting to see these, I hope there will be something to bring UFS over to ZFS (if ample space is required and met) as a utility. I'm not going to panic, it will work out in the long run. A side from Suns scripts, I'm going to copy my whole Home directory, print out all installed software (packages and tarred). This will hopefully get me to where I am now with SXCE. If you also have the money (as I will do this also if it cannot be done as an upgrade), is purchase another hard drive to do the install onto, then mount the original drive. From here you can copy any programs you missed, especially one installed not from packages. So to answer you, no I don't think it as a monumental disaster, just some extra work. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Installing IPS on a opensolaris.
atul kulkarni wrote: Here is what's on my /etc/release Solaris Nevada snv_67 X86 Copyright 2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 18 June 2007 My uname -a is SunOS X.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc From what I can see, it's not Opensolaris. It's SXCE. What I dont understand is how you get two different release numbers 67 and 89. Did you type it manually and make a typo? There is no IPS or pkg binary. There is no way to install pkg into SXCE, and if you did copy it, it probably render SXCE useless when first used. You need to download the latest Opensolaris at: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ Do not choose Solaris Express CE (SXCE). Choose one of the selections for OpenSolaris 2009.06.** Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Example of SXCE to OpenSolaris migration
Cyril Plisko wrote: Hi ! There are mentions from time to time of a big file server in Sun that powers home dirs and a lot of other stuff. They say jurassic is the name. Rumors talk about this server being upgraded biweekly to the latest Nevada build. If that is true, it would be interesting to hear what the plans are for this machine for post October era. The difference is, SXCE will not be available to the public, but will still be available internally. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Example of SXCE to OpenSolaris migration
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Paul Gress wrote: The difference is, SXCE will not be available to the public, but will still be available internally. Nope - we're stopping building it at the same time for everyone. Thanks, I stand corrected. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris b122 and printing
Bengt Farre wrote: After upgrading from b118 to b122 the network discvery failed again but now with function does not exist. Executing start method (/lib/svc/method/svc-network-discovery start snmp). ] /usr/bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal --type=method_call /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/network_attached org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery.EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP int32:60 string:public string:0.0.0.0 Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method EnablePrinterScanningViaSNMP with signature iss on interface org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.NetworkDiscovery doesn't exist I get this exact error also, but for me it was from b117 to b121. Hopefully someone can find a solution. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris b122 and printing
Norm Jacobs wrote: I forgot to mention that if you use CUPS as your print system, you don't need the printers:snmp service because CUPS and it's managment app system-config-printer, don't use HAL for network attached printer discovery. So let me see if I have this correct. Since I'm using Cups, as supplied, I do not need to use printer discovery, turn it off. Cups enabled = Printer (Device) Discovery disabled. Correct? Shouldn't there be a popup messages alerting to this in Services settings (services-admin)? Thanks, Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Upgrade to Opensolaris dev 123 from SXCE b122 complete
First I would like to praise all the people involved in developing Opensolaris. I have now successfully upgraded (sort of) from my install of SXCE. It went pretty smooth with exception of one hiccup, which I'll get to later. My procedure was to purchase a new hard drive (in my case, Intel X-25M). I installed the from the live CD. After that upgraded to the development b123 build. No came the fun part, get my original Home directory working. So I mounted my old hard drive. Had to do this manually, simply a format command and escape from format with CTL-C to find the ID of the hard drive. For me, this was a little more work, because on SXCE I put my Home directory in /usr and succumbed to /export/home for Opensolaris. After coping the Home directory over I had to edit my Thunderbird and Mozilla pref.js files for the new Home directory. Next was to get my one main program Pro-Engineer running. I installed SUNWmfrun, the License manager and the Pro-E binaries. It ran no problems. OK now back to my one hiccup. After I copied over my previous Home directory I get an error message upon startup after loging in. There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with a status 256) It doesn't prevent me from logging in, all seems fine after I close this dialog. I did check with running the binary gconf-sanity-check-2 and it exited with no errors. Does anybody have any ideas how to resolve this without creating a new user login? Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any way to upgrade/migrate SXCE to opensolaris?
keithk wrote: With SXCE EOL drawing near, I am thinking of switching over to opensolaris from SXCE. Is there any document on how to upgrade the current SXCE install over to opensolaris? I'm am going to miss the well integrated desktop that Sun puts out in the SXCE distribution. StarOffice 9, CDE for backward compatibility for some of the outdated 3rd party software like Citrix ICA client for Solaris, and the Java Desktop themes and wallpapers. I noticed in the development build there is a package called SUNWdtbas which is a CDE application basic runtime environment. You have to install is seperately, it will not automatically install. As for Staroffice, Openoffice is pretty much identical. I use the 3.2 development version which is at m59 now. For wallpapers, I just copied them over from the SXCE directories. The desktop is integrated the same if you ask me othe then two seperate menu's for System and Places. But now you get IPS. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] 128 bit technology
John Thompson wrote: On 2009-10-11, Peter Jones bloosk...@netscape.net wrote: Microsoft has announced that the next release windows 8 will be a 128 bit system.Apart from haveing few applications,isv,isv,on their side.Is this a marketing gimmick or saine thinking? Will opensolaris work on 128 bit? I'd say it's realistic on Microsoft's part -- considering how long it takes them to get a new version of Windows out the door. In other words, there's plenty of time for 128-bit desktop machines to appear on the marketplace and become obsolete before Windows 8 is ready to go... :) As stated previously, what hardware are they going to use? There is no 128 bit computer announced by any computer manufacturer. It must be a 128 bit file system to compete with ZFS. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] create a directory/ file
sridhar wrote: In short, I want the full power of unix and all it's commands in the GUI form. Oh, GOD, when I will use that kind of unix. I think it will be a dream as long as there are incorrigible fans of CUI commands in user population. Simply put, for file management gui with root access permissions just enter at the terminal pfexec nautilus to create a directory simply navigate to the root directory where you to add the new directory the just click-on File Create Folder Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Unable to access the open solaris across the network..Urg!!!
sridhar wrote: looks like we have to say that very fundamental/basic static ip configuration is not working in open solaris 2009.06. Any relevant authorized person around here, please confirm this. It was announced today that NWAM v 1.0 will be available as a separate download. NWAM v1.0 has all the capability you require. It will be available in about 1 - 2 days to the general public. http://opensolaris.org/os/project/nwam/Phase1EA/ Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Unable to access the open solaris across the network..Urg!!!
sridhar wrote: still 2 more qs to answer. It would be so much easier to understand most of your comments if you leave some relevant text behind your comment. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Problems with hal service on OpenSolaris 2009.06
carlopmart wrote: Hi all, tomorrow I have executed dmesg and I see this error: Oct 29 12:38:26 hobbiton svc.startd[7]: [ID 652011 daemon.warning] svc:/system/hal:default: Method /lib/svc/method/svc-hal start failed with exit status 127. Oct 29 12:38:27 hobbiton last message repeated 2 times Oct 29 12:38:27 hobbiton svc.startd[7]: [ID 748625 daemon.error] system/hal:default failed: transitioned to maintenance (see 'svcs -xv' for details) after that I have executed svcs -xv and I see: r...@hobbiton:/var/svc/log# svcs -xv svc:/system/hal:default (Hardware Abstraction Layer daemon) State: maintenance since Thu Oct 29 12:38:27 2009 Reason: Start method failed repeatedly, last exited with status 127. See: http://sun.com/msg/SMF-8000-KS See: man -M /usr/man -s 1M hal See: /var/svc/log/system-hal:default.log Impact: 1 dependent service is not running: svc:/system/filesystem/rmvolmgr:default But if I try to start rmvolmgr service nothing happens, continues offline: r...@hobbiton:/var/svc/log# svcadm enable svc:/system/filesystem/rmvolmgr:default r...@hobbiton:/var/svc/log# svcs -a |grep rmvol offline12:38:12 svc:/system/filesystem/rmvolmgr:default Where is the problem?? svc:/system/filesystem/rmvolmgr:default is a dependant service of svc:/system/hal:default. This means you need to correct svc:/system/hal:default before svc:/system/filesystem/rmvolmgr:default to get it to run. The first thing to do in trying to fix this is read your log file for hal, located at /var/svc/log/system-hal:default.log. This might supply a clue to whats failing. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Upgrade to Opensolaris dev 123 from SXCE b122 complete
John Martin wrote: Stephen Whyte wrote: Hi, Is it difficult to get pro engineer running on opensolaris. Which version of Wildfire and this is for x64, right? The only issue with a standard installation may be the Motif libraries are missing. Make certain you load package SUNWmfrun. I have both Pro Engineer WF4 and WF5 running on Opensolaris b127, with compiz enabled. In my opinion, it runs better than with Solaris 10. The only small problem is staring it with compiz running, I have created a small script to start it. If you get far enough where this is what you decide, I'd be happy to supply my script to you. If you have any questions getting Pro-E running on Opensolaris, just ask. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] system info
Harry Putnam wrote: Tim Bell tim.b...@sun.com writes: [...] Harry wrote: It appears there is no simple way to get the output by scripting, since `format' doesn't close by itself. Its probably dead easy to run it with a `quit' or `exit' somewhere but I'm not sure how that might be done. This works on my home system (OpenSolaris snv_127): % pfexec format /dev/null Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 30397 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5/d...@0,0 1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5/d...@1,0 2. c6t0d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5,1/d...@0,0 3. c6t1d0 ATA-ST3750330AS-SD1A-698.64GB /p...@0,0/pci108e,6...@5,1/d...@1,0 Specify disk (enter its number): % Fails miserably here: pfexec format /dev/null -bash: /dev/null .. no such file or directory From your PS1 symbol it looks like you might be using tsch or even csh? Wonder if that makes a difference Works here: bash-4.0$ pfexec /usr/sbin/format /dev/null Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c8t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 15563 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@0,0 1. c8t1d0 ATA-OCZ-VERTEX-1.3-238.47GB /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@1,0 2. c8t2d0 ATA-INTEL SSDSA2MH16-8820-149.05GB /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@2,0 Specify disk (enter its number): bash-4.0$ I had to specify the location for format explicitly, and it looks like you didn't add a space between and /dev/null (maybe it was a typo?). Try it again with copy and paste. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Migration from windows to Linux
Neil Houston wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble, but OpenOffice is simply nowhere near Microsoft Office. To you, perhaps, but try selling it to your Admin staff who sit in Excel all day. It doesn't even come close. I disagree. I have enormous spreadsheets created using Openoffice, and I have used almost every advanced feature. I have yet to find anything MS Excel does that Openoffice Calc cannot. I would be happy if you can find a specific example so I can research it. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Migration from windows to Linux
Nibal Al-Ghoul wrote: Is Nexenta free? No need to get license Yes, Free. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ken Mays wrote: Hello, The latest Nvidia 190.42 driver is not included on the latest snv_128a development ISO yet. Any word on 195.22 beta yet. I've downloaded this one already, but it requires a lot of work to install it and is not integrated properly into Opensolaris (VM). Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
John Martin wrote: Paul Gress wrote: Any word on 195.22 beta yet. I've downloaded this one already, but it requires a lot of work to install it and is not integrated properly into Opensolaris (VM). As you note it is still beta, so it isn't a candidate for bunding. The Sun version of this driver (SYSV packages with xVM dom0, MSI, fastreboot) is available at: http://home.comcast.net/~jdmartin99/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-195.22-xVM.run I'm curious as to a lot of work to install other than you must create a new BE starting with b125, but that isn't specific to this driver. I'm at b128 right now. Yes, what I meant was all the steps to create a new BE, but ultimately, I was just looking for the link to the to the beta integrated with xvm. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
On 02/15/10 07:16 AM, Chad Welsh wrote: here is the staroffice support page http://supportforum.Sun.COM/ see if it works for you cause it is a blank page for me A couple of clicks from the home page I found this: http://sunsolve.sun.com/show.do?target=patches%2Fxprod-StarOfficenav=pub-patches Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
On 02/15/10 11:36 AM, Paul Gress wrote: On 02/15/10 07:16 AM, Chad Welsh wrote: here is the staroffice support pagehttp://supportforum.Sun.COM/ see if it works for you cause it is a blank page for me A couple of clicks from the home page I found this: http://sunsolve.sun.com/show.do?target=patches%2Fxprod-StarOfficenav=pub-patches I just checked trying to download, and your right. You need a support contract. I guess you'll have to do what I do, get Openoffice. I get the development branch, a new release about every 2 weeks, just like Opensolaris. ftp://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net/pub/openoffice/extended/developer/ It usually comes out there a few days before it's officially announced. The announcement page would be here: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html Follow the link for developer snapshots. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris on slashdot
On 02/24/10 05:17 PM, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Yeah, when the news doesn't fit our liking, we can always discredit the source. :-) I thought the same thing, just a little differently. The Opensolaris mail exploders can be viewed to be biased towards Opensolaris. Having said that, I am more convinced than ever that OpenSolaris does have a very special place. IMNSHO, the old style propaganda machine the old Sun used to employ tends to drive potential developers away, while failing to attract significant number of (dedicated) new users. As we all know, OpenSolaris does have a unique set of features that are critically important in certain areas, and, unlike Linux, it also has a unique history and a noble lineage of established traditions which should make decision-makers feel more comfortable in adopting. Even in the area of desktops, if we are willing to narrow our focus mainly on business desktops, I agree. Gaming IMHO we will never get. The enterprise customer doesn't like to much GUI. What seems like a given are businesses. Businesses require a mix of GUI's and networking. Basically, Workstations. Where Opensolaris needs to excel is in getting more apps running to support businesses. I know a few wish lists were compiled, but not focused towards businesses. So basically, IMO, there should be a page on opensolaris.org that states where Opensolaris is heading. Call it a business plan. Call it focus. It can only help. Linux is to large for this to occur, so Opensolaris may be at an advantage here. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Build 134 Won't boot
On 03/ 9/10 08:50 PM, alan pae wrote: After removing the 133 boot environment then the system went back to the non booting again. So I had to modify menu.lst again and set console=text and then all was well. Saved me tonight. I had just upgraded from b133 to b134 and also was getting rapid rebooting. Changed my boot environment back to 133, read your post, added console=text to menu.lst and lo and behold, it now boots. Thanks, Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
On 03/28/10 10:51 PM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: I will make an effort to have this sort of language and tone blocked and your email removed permanently. This is unacceptable. speaking as a businessman I certianly [sic] do. Quite franky [sic], on these public mail lists, you will use correct english [sic] or at least acceptable language and tone .. or be gone. Thank you for making it clear to everybody that in today's world, censorship is an essential tool of business. This kind of language is perfectly normal in free software forums such as http://bbs.archlinux.org/ . If you can't deal with the culture of free software, maybe it is you who should leave. I'm sure you will feel more comfortable at forums.opensolaris.com. These forums aren't censored for content, just for fowl language, we try to keep it civil here. I agree with Dennis Clarks warning. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
On 03/29/10 01:07 AM, Alex Viskovatoff wrote: These forums aren't censored for content, just for fowl language, we try to keep it civil here. I agree with Dennis Clarks warning. Yes, they are censored for foul language. This is how the post that is provoking the outrage appears if you view it in the Forums: Not in the strictest sense. I saw a warning. let's not dis Open/Solaris technical merits nor the developers invest their labors into making them even better just because some *** now owns Sun. The fowl-language censorship routines are running correctly. Therefore, those of you who are hypersensitive to vernacular English should unsubscribe from getting forum posts emailed to you. That will solve your problem. I subscribe to this forum for technical discussion. If I want to subscribe to advocacy, I would. I'm sure the same behavior there will get a similar response as here. Either (1) have an automatic filter which censors posts for foul language or (2) have the expectation that people making posts will take care to be polite. Given that we presently have (1), it is perverse to hold to (2). Why should people go out of their way to be civil, when they know they will get censored? There is one lesson I learned in my old age. If you want to look good and learn, surround yourself around the smartest people you know. I come to this forum for the same reason. I shouldn't have to set filtering to block any messages in this forum. I expect everybody to behave intelligent and go with (2). As far as this thread is concerned, I never spoke previously as I never had anything intelligent to add, as Opensolaris is a different animal. This thread is about Solaris 10, I'm concerned, but doesn't affect me now. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
On 03/29/10 02:06 AM, bsd wrote: OpenSolaris has some nice technologies, but with FreeBSD you can run zfs. With the 8.0 release you can run vimage which is essentially Solaris Zones, while FreeBSD has had jails for years and recently upgraded jails to v2. Crossbow is really the only feature not in FreeBSD that I'd like to have, although I can do without. It is also interesting that VirtualBox is just as fast on FreeBSD as OpenSolaris, although it doesn't consume as much resources like memory and cpu. I used to use OpenSolaris but too many problems sent me back to BSD. It might work for some, but I'm better off on BSD. For me, my only choices are Solaris 10, Opensolaris, or Windows. I choose Opensolaris. I run a CAD program that now only currently runs on Solaris and Windows. I have it running on Opensolaris. For me, Opensolaris is pretty stable once you get it running (I'm using the development edition). If I upgrade and it breaks, I just change my boot environment (BE) to a previous working BE and all is in order. That feature makes using the development editions livable. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris
On 03/29/10 12:07 PM, Matthew Nawrocki wrote: Hello all: As of late, I have begun to notice increasing levels of pessimism and grumbling amongst users (and former users) of OpenSolaris. As a glasses half-full type, I would like to remind everyone that whining and complaining about petty issues such as a delayed release for OpenSolaris and the OpenSolaris is doomed because of Linux and BSD mantra is not going to help the situation. I am a very strong proponent of this project and I will do whatever is necessary to keep OpenSolaris in the running, even with the seemingly dire straits that we are supposedly in under Oracle. However, as an open source project, we should have nothing to fear for this remarkable operating system as the effort will persist even if Oracle refuses to support it. The community here is strong and will continue to evangelize our mission with no doubts and regrets. Now with a new OGB comprised of individuals with a passion for the platform as well as a younger generation of geeks like myself striving to pus h for increased use of the software through install fests, conferences and good old-fashioned word of mouth, I am sure we will succeed. Don't give up everyone! Stay the course and all will be well. Thank you all. I agree 100% with you Matt. I have seen nothing negative about Opensolaris from Oracle. So far they are actively pushing Solaris 10 for servers, nothing about Workstations and Desktops. Openoffice fits in Workstations and Desktops, I don't think they want to abandon that, so I believe (my speculation), they will offer Opensolaris as their Desktop/Workstation product. I am all for Opensolaris. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?
On 04/ 5/10 09:43 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Matthias Pfütznermatth...@pfuetzner.de writes: more ISVs, ISV ? Independent Software Vendor ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?
On 04/ 7/10 11:57 AM, bsd wrote: You people are really uptight and defensive about OpenSolaris and any talk about negative intentions Oracle may have towards it. I stand by my position about x86/Sparc, it was developed for x86 laptops (OpenSolaris is like PC-BSD), because who would develop a data center operating system that is complete with gnome, firefox, NWAM (which is nice, but not for dc depolyment), an image viewer, forced to use ZFS, I can go on with unneeded software for data centers. It's great on a laptop. But the last build I can get to work on my laptop is 129. I tried again last night when I reinstalled with build 129 and did an image-update. It merely does a continuous loop. I get the grub menu and select the new b-e then it reboots the laptop, although 129 still works fine. I may just keep it at 129 instead of reinstalling with something else. The b134 has a glitch that it will do exactly as you see. To fix that you need to edit the grub menu. Here is a copy of mine, located at: /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst # #Created with GrubEd on StarDate Tue Mar 9 21:53:21 2010 # #End User Verification Process Initiated # splashimage /boot/solaris.xpm timeout 5 default 3 #TITLE-BODY# title osol-132 bootfs rpool/ROOT/osol-132 kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=graphics module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive title osol-133-1 bootfs rpool/ROOT/osol-133-1 kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=graphics module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive title osol-133_openoffice bootfs rpool/ROOT/osol-133_openoffice kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=graphics module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive title osol-134 bootfs rpool/ROOT/osol-134 kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=text module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive #END-TITLE-# Notice the entry for osol-134, it's different then the other entries. The difference is console-text. Change your entry and you should be able to boot into 134. Paul They're my own opinions and what I think doesn't have any affect on Oracle's decision to keep it or dump it. How I read a vague statement is my personal decision although it seems here one has no personal opinion or thoughts. Rather one must join the collective and assimilate or be persecuted. Any personal thoughts on the future of OpenSolaris that aren't butterflies and daffodils and you want to burn someone at the stake. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] failed to add publisher?
On 04/ 7/10 01:52 PM, solarg wrote: but that's not exactly what i want to do. On my laptop, i created, weeks ago, my own repo, called localhost. This is when i compile myself missing apps. But now, i want to add a new publisher, found here: http://ips.enst.fr:1/ and i'm not able to succeed, i don't understand why? is it possible that the publisher's owner has misnamed his depot? I was able to add it using the GUI. The second entry from the bottom. I even added one package (blender) from there. bash-4.0$ pkg -publisher pkg: illegal global option -- p Try `pkg --help or -?' for more information. bash-4.0$ pkg publisher PUBLISHER TYPE STATUS URI opensolaris.org (preferred) origin online http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/ Opensolaris-Contrib origin online http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib/ Extrasorigin online https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/ Multimediaorigin online http://opensolaris.homeunix.com:10906/ Sunfreeware origin online http://pkg.sunfreeware.com:9000/ Blastwave(disabled) origin online http://blastwave.network.com:1/ pending.opensolaris.org origin online http://jucr.opensolaris.org/pending/ KDE origin online http://solaris.bionicmutton.org:1/ localhost origin online http://ips.enst.fr:1/ kdeips-devorigin online http://solaris.bionicmutton.org:10004/ bash-4.0$ Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?
On 04/ 7/10 04:53 PM, Matthias Pfützner wrote: So, how's build 134 doing? It seems, you have an thinkpad with a nvidia card, as the only reported systems having that reboot-loop-problem were some such... I had the same problem with my Nvidia Quadro 1600M Graphics card in a Clevo D901C Portable Workstation. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page
On 04/12/10 07:05 PM, bsd wrote: SXCE build 130 which is the last build produced has all that I want as far as software like Bluefish. I've tried to compile Bluefish on OpenSolaris b134 but received errors, so I thought of SXCE and installed. Bluefish is included in the Opensolaris b134 dev releases. You just have to download it after the full install. Located in: Applications Internet Paul There is one problem though and that is I cannot load www.namecheap.com and it eventually times out. The problem is that I can get to other sites without any problems. Can anyone suggest what may be the problem that Firefox 3.5.5 and/or SXCE b130 cannot load one site? Is there a way to upgrade Firefox in SXCE since it is no longer maintained to see if that will fix the problem? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On 04/14/10 10:56 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no developers working on it, since all the Oracle-paid developers would still be working on the original OpenSolaris? It would get a release out. I'm still using b134 since 03/09/2010. Would you even have enough developers to keep up with the overhead of merging in all the changes Oracle developers are pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day? If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137? Everyone is getting edgy. If Oracle won't publish a binary, Dennis is testing what it would take to do this effort himself. If what you really want is a new distro that's not in Oracle's control, what would differentiate your distro from the existing ones, and why would it make sense to start another instead of joining one of the existing groups to work on theirs? I don't think he wants to start a new distro, he's looking to publish b137. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On 04/14/10 12:12 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Paul Gress wrote: If their pushing to the main OpenSolaris gates every day, why hasn't anything been released. Why cannot I upgrade to b135, b136 or b137? Every previous time we've had a release in progress, updates to /dev stopped while the release was underway - when 2009.06 was being finalized, builds 112 though 115 got skipped in /dev. But the difference was the community was informed. It appears that everything was frozen. I must say that I'm getting nervous. I've been waiting since around the later b120's for b135, as this marked the first release with NWAM phase 1. Now I see not even a whisper on the release front. My analogy on this situation is like the drug pusher giving drugs to kids for free knowing when he stops giving it for free the kids will be addicted and will agree to pay for it. It appears we are now in the stop giving it stage and the community is now going through withdrawal symptoms. They need their Opensolaris. Unfortunately, I don't know when new builds will be able to be published in the pkg repo again, but the sources continue to be made available if someone else wanted to build them. Just taking the existing sources and releasing builds to a community-run pkg repo is not a fork though. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: How can it appear to be ^frozen^? Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists. Appears and actual are two different things. What I mean by appears is nothing has been published as in some form of a binary release for me to upgrade my b134 for a little over a month. Now I know Alan stated this happened previously, which I remember, but the community was informed, and the timing also wasn't during a transistion from Sun to Oracle. I doubt anybody would continue to pay the developers, unless they do very well plan to release *something*. I'm sure they plan to release something, they are continuing to develop. I'm afraid it may be in the form of a paid subscription service. Maybe the delay has to do with polishing justice related aspects, licenses and so on. That has to do with 2010.04, not the dev releases. During my life experience I learned one thing for sure: Distrust and impatience DESTROY EVERYTHING. I agree, I can wait, I just wish somebody would throw a dogbone to appease the community. My analogy on this situation is like the drug pusher giving drugs to kids for free knowing when he stops giving it for free the kids will be addicted and will agree to pay for it. It appears we are now in the stop giving it stage and the community is now going through withdrawal symptoms. They need their Opensolaris. Sounds like you are experienced ;-) Experienced in Opensolaris that is. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?
On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: Sounds like you are experienced ;-) Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it. I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley face, it was meant as a joke. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] b137 based on tonic or otherwise
On 04/14/10 03:17 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: On 04/14/10 01:33 PM, David E. Anderson wrote: While we're at it... I am running b134 and use the dev branch; when 2010.new comes out, how do I switch and stick with that until we get further along towards the 2010.Fall ( assuming these release issues get resolved)? Just set your client to use the '/release' repository for the 'opensolaris.org' publisher, and be certain you don't image-update using the '/dev' repository before then: pfexec pkg set-publisher \ -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release opensolaris.org Basically 2010.04 will be b134a or b134b, which is still upgrading from b134. So it should work if you don't upgrade to =b135 dev prior to 2010.04. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Non Fud official speaking
I decided to read Oracles System News. There's a pretty good article that actually gives me a warm feeling about Opensolaris. The article is titled: Oracle's Hardware and Systems Support Policies Linked at: http://sun.systemnews.com/articles/146/1/hw/22995 Specifically: Article #22995 Volume 146, Issue 1 Section: Hardware For the link to work I believe you'll have to log in, at least I did. It makes me think there is something very big that is going to happen with Opensolaris, not bad, but good. It's just my speculation. Linked to the article is a blog from Alex Gorbachev located at: http://www.pythian.com/news/10661/nobody-killed-opensolaris-stop-the-fud/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+PythianGroupBlog+%28Pythian+Group+Blog%29 In the bottom comments section stated was (from Alex Gorbachev): I wouldn't underestimate Linux but I argue that Oracle's true strategy on Solaris vs Linux are not known in public domain. I'm sure they wouldn't mind dominate OS market with the product that they control (and that's not Linux) --- whether it's feasible or not is another question. This is the quote that makes me think that something good is going the happen. I believe (speculate) that Oracle will try to sell Opensolaris as a desktop OS. Where else can you move it, if not backwards. Well any way, I just wanted to state something positve about Opensolaris. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Business use of OpenSolaris: enough to support commercial software?
On 04/20/10 09:26 AM, Ken Mays wrote: Mike, For business, commercial, and 'some' government projects - the answer is YES. Originally, I was working with someone to review Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5.0 and CATIA on OpenSolaris. We starting porting over CAD/CAM/CAE and game development/rendering tools to OpenSolaris due to the Nvidia driver support and migrating from older platforms. For daily production usage, those workstations and servers are the most reliable systems to date - all using a officially tested binary release of OpenSolaris. I can attest to the Pro-Engineer WF5 working on Opensolaris, as I use it on a daily basis. My opinion is it works better than Solaris 10. Very stable with no crashes to date. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community
On 05/25/10 10:01 AM, Andrew Stormont wrote: Is Oracle really closing OpenSolaris? I didn't read that anywhere. My opinion, no. Opensolaris 2010.06 will be released soon. Then the development gate will open again. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] The Case of The Missing Drive
On 06/ 2/10 07:13 PM, Andrew Greimann wrote: Hello, I've got an issue with a partition I cannot seem to access. I'm familiar how drives are mounted in Linux and mapped in Windows. For instance, /dev/sda5 underneath the Linux platform would describe my partition, D:\ under Windows would've described it. Here's the issue: When I ls /dev from the terminal, I get a zillion lines. I'm aware from reading a post or two Solaris works with drive slices but what in the world is a drive slice in relevance to my partition? I'm also aware that sda# that Linux would map no longer exist here but it's more like (e.g. /dev/dsk/c0d0p2) on Solaris. Out of all these lines dumped from /dev, do you think you could help me pinpoint the drive if possible, so it could be mounted? And is mount used the same way if it is FAT32 (e.g. mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5)? Thanks. The easy way to view available disks (permanent) is to use the format command by itself, no options. Example on my computer: # /usr/sbin/format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c8t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 15563 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@0,0 1. c8t1d0 ATA-OCZ-VERTEX-1.3-238.47GB /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@1,0 2. c8t2d0 ATA-INTEL SSDSA2MH16-8820-149.05GB /p...@0,0/pci1558,9...@1f,2/d...@2,0 Specify disk (enter its number): ^C # As you can see I have three disks attached. From this link http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=573 quoted: Storage devices are accessable in two forms: via a block device (the normal way, found in /dev/dsk/) and via raw devices (also called charrector devices, found in /dev/rdsk/). Because of Solaris's storage framework, all storage devices are accessed in the same way and are accessed as SCSI devices. On Linux, hda1 means the first partition on the first IDE disk. On Solaris c0t0d0s0 means controller 0, target 0, LUN 0, slice 0. On Solaris we call paritions slices, and typically slice 2 is used to represent the full disk, just as typically hda with no parition number typically represents the full disk on a Linux system. The above quote would be for a solaris partition. To mount a Solaris partition: mount /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 /mnt To mount a FAT32 partition: mount -F PCFS /dev/dsk/c0t0d0p1:c /mnt Where, p1 is partition 1, and c is the logical drive, see man mount_pcfs for more details. For removable drives it's the same as above, but use the command rmformat # /usr/bin/rmformat Looking for devices... 1. Logical Node: /dev/rdsk/c7t0d0p0 Physical Node: /p...@0,0/pci8086,2...@1c,3/pci-...@0/i...@0/s...@0,0 Connected Device: MATSHITA BD-MLT UJ-220S 1.01 Device Type: DVD Reader/Writer Bus: IDE Size: Unknown Label: Unknown Access permissions: Unknown # Also, please note, do not use /dev/rdsk/ to mount any device, this points to the raw device (used for formating), use /dev/dsk, this points to the block device. So, for my example with rmformat, it shows the device to be /dev/rdsk/c7t0d0p0, but if I were to mount it manually I would use /dev/dsk/c7t0d0p0. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Planet Opensolaris
Has anyone else noticed that the last blog was on May 27. I find it hard to believe no one has blogged since then, there has always been at least one new entry everyday. Not even Simon with his Webmink. Has it been frozen, or are we just in a long dry spell. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Planet Opensolaris
On 06/ 4/10 11:16 AM, Paul Gress wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the last blog was on May 27. I find it hard to believe no one has blogged since then, there has always been at least one new entry everyday. Not even Simon with his Webmink. Has it been frozen, or are we just in a long dry spell. Paul Forgot to add a link: http://planet.opensolaris.org/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Planet Opensolaris
On 06/ 4/10 11:18 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Paul Gress wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the last blog was on May 27. I find it hard to believe no one has blogged since then, there has always been at least one new entry everyday. Not even Simon with his Webmink. Has it been frozen, or are we just in a long dry spell. Technical difficulties caused by the datacenter move: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/website-discuss/2010-June/006563.html Thanks for the update Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
