RE: Duplicate Posts (Still)
-Original Message- From: Paulo Matos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts (Still) On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: rse Just to make sure we do not hit a bug in Postfix or SMTPfeed, I've rse today upgraded mmx.engelschall.com to the latest stuff: Postfix 1.1.5 rse and SMTPfeed 1.18. Let's see whether this reduces the duplication rse problems... Just for the record, I'm still receiving duplicate posts... You might consider to use Postfix alone or qmail with multiple queus if Postfix won't do the job (it should). But of course this is just a suggestion. Regards, I usually do not like to send me toos, but this all mess makes the list totally unusable for me! ;-( Bernard Bernard Dautrevaux Microprocess Ingenierie 97 bis, rue de Colombes 92400 COURBEVOIE FRANCE Tel:+33 (0) 1 47 68 80 80 Fax:+33 (0) 1 47 88 97 85 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Andrew T. Finnell wrote: See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. My copy goes to Sendmail 8.9.3 run by the campus computing mavens, is forwarded to Smail 3.2.0.112 on my own system, passes through procmail 3.14 to be sorted into various mailboxes, and is read using pine 4.33. Here some posts are multiplied up to five times, and some are not. That suggests a gateway which is common to some, but not all, posters. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our lives are forever changed. But *that* is exactly as it always was. __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Emanuel Dejanu Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
Lotus Notes 4.6.1 Andrew T. Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/18/2002 08:51:20 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joel Jirak/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Emanuel Dejanu Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
Microsoft Outlook 2000 / Windows 2000 Emanuel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew T. Finnell Sent: 18 martie 2002 15:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Emanuel Dejanu Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
Hello, looking thru mail envelopes it seems to me that host mmx.engelschall.com sends the same message more that one time. Ales Privetivy Two sample mail headers: -- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 18 15:02:28 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [212.71.128.53]) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989E640A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mmx.engelschall.com (mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252]) by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0EB923 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix/smtpfeed 1.16) id 57F961950B; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from opensource.ee.ethz.ch (opensource-01.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.153]) by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C21950A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) for openssl-users-L id KAA12404; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:12:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) via ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from viefep16-int.chello.at id KAA12340; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sbox.tugraz.at ([212.186.199.33]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:37 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 18 12:32:28 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [212.71.128.53]) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CAA40A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:32:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mmx.engelschall.com (mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252]) by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C4B981 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:32:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix/smtpfeed 1.16) id 57F961950B; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from opensource.ee.ethz.ch (opensource-01.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.153]) by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C21950A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) for openssl-users-L id KAA12404; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:12:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) via ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from viefep16-int.chello.at id KAA12340; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sbox.tugraz.at ([212.186.199.33]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:37 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
Lotus Notes Oscar Valenzuela Unix System Support 212 326-6465 Andrew T. Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/2002 08:51 AM Please respond to openssl-users To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Duplicate Posts See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Emanuel Dejanu Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** PLEASE NOTE *** This message, along with any attachments, may be confidential or legally privileged. It is intended only for the named person(s), who is/are the only authorized recipients. If this message has reached you in error, kindly destroy it without review and notify the sender immediately. Thank you for your help. **
RE: Duplicate Posts
X-Mailer: PMMail 2.10.1999 for OS/2 Warp 4.05 - rb On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:10:35 +0200, Emanuel Dejanu wrote: |See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do |with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client |applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is |receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet |it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts |and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. | |- |Andrew T. Finnell |Active Solutions L.L.C |[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Duplicate Posts
I doubt it's the user agent (client) that's at fault. I sometimes receive duplicates from openssl-users (and may have from openssl-dev, though with its lighter traffic it's less apparent), but I haven't always seen duplicates when other people post complaints about them. I've never received duplicates with any other list. More likely it's either the openssl.org list server or one of the MTAs in the (rather convoluted) path en route to my MTA that's duplicating messages. I'd prowl through the Received headers of some of the duplicates to check, but I'm using Outlook 2001 (idiotic company standard, unfortunately) and it's too much effort. Michael Wojcik Principal Software Systems Developer, Micro Focus Department of English, Miami University -Original Message- From: Andrew T. Finnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Emanuel Dejanu Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Duplicate Posts I have the same problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aarno Syvanen Sent: 18 martie 2002 10:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Duplicate Posts Roger F. Borrello, Jr. wrote: Am I the only one getting 4 or 5 copies of posted messages? No, I have the same problem. Aarno __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002, Lance Nehring wrote: Yes, I see the same thing in my headers. I've also addressed this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to try to get their attention to investigate their email logs. A valid STMP host on the net should route the postmaster address to an admin. per RFC822. Sometimes mmx.engelschall.com shows up in the header as: Received: from mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252] by cmsmail05.cms.usa.net via smtad (CM.1201.1.04.PATCH); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:36 GMT other times it shows up as: Received: from mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252] by cmsmail06.cms.usa.net via smtad (CM.1201.1.04); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:05:36 GMT It does look like a good place to look for the problem but will require assistence from engelschall.com. [...] mmx.engelschall.com is the Postfix+SMTPfeed service for the mass-mail delivery of our mailing list subscriptions which is also used by OpenSSL. According to the Postfix logfile for this particular mail and the receiving MTA, it is the problem of the receiving MTA or the network connection to it: | Mar 18 10:27:36 info postfix/lmtp[83321]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=863, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 11:14:22 info postfix/lmtp[85311]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=3668, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 12:43:59 info postfix/lmtp[87921]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=9046, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 15:13:55 info postfix/lmtp[92784]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=18042, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 17:44:06 info postfix/lmtp[99370]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=27053, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) As you can see, SMTPfeed (the LMTP service reported here by Postfix) on mmx.engelschall.com tried many times to deliver the message because the connection timed out in the middle of the SMTP conversation. And, yes, as the log also says, the result could be that the message is received by the peer more than once. So, that's the expected behaviour in this case and nothing is wrong -- at least not on the mmx.engelschall.com side as far as I can see it. Ralf S. Engelschall [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.engelschall.com __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
Yes, I see the same thing in my headers. I've also addressed this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to try to get their attention to investigate their email logs. A valid STMP host on the net should route the postmaster address to an admin. per RFC822. Sometimes mmx.engelschall.com shows up in the header as: Received: from mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252] by cmsmail05.cms.usa.net via smtad (CM.1201.1.04.PATCH); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:36 GMT other times it shows up as: Received: from mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252] by cmsmail06.cms.usa.net via smtad (CM.1201.1.04); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:05:36 GMT It does look like a good place to look for the problem but will require assistence from engelschall.com. r, Lance Nehring New Particles Corporation Ales Privetivy wrote: Hello, looking thru mail envelopes it seems to me that host mmx.engelschall.com sends the same message more that one time. Ales Privetivy Two sample mail headers: -- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 18 15:02:28 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [212.71.128.53]) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989E640A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mmx.engelschall.com (mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252]) by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D0EB923 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:02:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix/smtpfeed 1.16) id 57F961950B; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from opensource.ee.ethz.ch (opensource-01.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.153]) by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C21950A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) for openssl-users-L id KAA12404; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:12:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) via ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from viefep16-int.chello.at id KAA12340; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sbox.tugraz.at ([212.186.199.33]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:37 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 18 12:32:28 2002 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz (jabberwock.ucw.cz [212.71.128.53]) by artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CAA40A5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:32:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from mmx.engelschall.com (mmx.engelschall.com [195.27.130.252]) by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C4B981 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:32:25 +0100 (CET) Received: by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix/smtpfeed 1.16) id 57F961950B; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from opensource.ee.ethz.ch (opensource-01.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.7.153]) by mmx.engelschall.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5C21950A for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:13:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) for openssl-users-L id KAA12404; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:12:37 +0100 (MET) Received: by en5.engelschall.com (Sendmail 8.9.2) via ESMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from viefep16-int.chello.at id KAA12340; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sbox.tugraz.at ([212.186.199.33]) by viefep16-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:11:37 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See that is quite strange. My assumption is I don't think it has to do with the Mailing list server itself but rather your Mail Client applications. Why not post the client's everyone is using that is receiving duplicate posts? If they are all the same then it's a safe bet it's the client. I am subscribed multiple times under different accounts and have never received duplicate posts and I use Outlook XP. - Andrew T. Finnell Active Solutions L.L.C [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org
Re: Duplicate Posts
Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: ... According to the Postfix logfile for this particular mail and the receiving MTA, it is the problem of the receiving MTA or the network connection to it: There you have it, Ralf -- the problem is with Postfix itself. Other mailing lists don't have this problem. You're blaming the victims -- the poor sods who have to read the same not-quite-deathless prose, again and again. __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: As you can see, SMTPfeed (the LMTP service reported here by Postfix) on mmx.engelschall.com tried many times to deliver the message because the connection timed out in the middle of the SMTP conversation. And, yes, as the log also says, the result could be that the message is received by the peer more than once. So, that's the expected behaviour in this case and nothing is wrong -- at least not on the mmx.engelschall.com side as far as I can see it. That's because you have your eyes firmly shut! __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 06:08:49PM +0100, Ralf S. Engelschall wrote: | Mar 18 10:27:36 info postfix/lmtp[83321]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=863, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 11:14:22 info postfix/lmtp[85311]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=3668, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 12:43:59 info postfix/lmtp[87921]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=9046, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 15:13:55 info postfix/lmtp[92784]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=18042, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) | Mar 18 17:44:06 info postfix/lmtp[99370]: 57F961950B: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], | relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=27053, status=deferred (conversation with | 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while sending end of data -- message may be | sent more than once) As you can see, SMTPfeed (the LMTP service reported here by Postfix) on mmx.engelschall.com tried many times to deliver the message because the connection timed out in the middle of the SMTP conversation. And, yes, as the log also says, the result could be that the message is received by the peer more than once. So, that's the expected behaviour in this case and nothing is wrong -- at least not on the mmx.engelschall.com side as far as I can see it. I am not familiar with SMTPfeed, but I am quite familiar with postfix :-) The message above means, that the mail body was sent out successfully. According to RFC821, the body is finished with a . on a single line. The receiving host acknowledges deliveray with a 2xx queued as ... answer, than postfix sends QUIT. The message above indicates, that the acknowledgement was not sent, so postfix does not know for sure, whether the message was received or not. To make sure the message was not lost, Postfix will send the message again. Please check out e.g. http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts Best regards, Lutz -- Lutz Jaenicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aet.TU-Cottbus.DE/personen/jaenicke/ BTU Cottbus, Allgemeine Elektrotechnik Universitaetsplatz 3-4, D-03044 Cottbus __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate Posts
Lutz.Jaenicke == Lutz Jaenicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lutz.Jaenicke I am not familiar with SMTPfeed, but I am quite familiar with Lutz.Jaenicke postfix :-) The message above means, that the mail body was sent Lutz.Jaenicke out successfully. According to RFC821, the body is finished Lutz.Jaenicke with a . on a single line. The receiving host acknowledges Lutz.Jaenicke deliveray with a 2xx queued as ... answer, than postfix sends Lutz.Jaenicke QUIT. The message above indicates, that the acknowledgement Lutz.Jaenicke was not sent, so postfix does not know for sure, whether the Lutz.Jaenicke message was received or not. To make sure the message was not Lutz.Jaenicke lost, Postfix will send the message again. Please check out Lutz.Jaenicke e.g. http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts The problem/lmtp is with postfix, it appears. If some system in the Czech Republic has a timeout, why should I get the repeated deliveries? The software appears not to be smart enough to differentiate the single failing recipient from the rest of the successful ones and requeues the whole bunch. Maybe http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#timeouts has some lame excuse for why they cannot differentiate good deliveries from bad, but the learn to live with it answer really doesn't cut it. __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
