Re: [Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
Dear Brian thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here is very obvious. Thanksfrom Peter Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:11:03 -0700 From: brian.sch...@nimbisservices.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? OpenStack is an open-source foundation with lots of potential competitors working together to build a common infrastructure. As long as they abide by the contributor license agreement anyone is welcome to participate in our open-source community. So, OpenStack doesn't have an alliance with VMware. If you are asking why VmWare chose to participate as heavily as it does in OpenStack, there is a lot of business analysis/speculation out there in the blogsphere, but the short answer is that markets change. I'm sure that there were folks wondering why IBM participated in Linux at the time when customers were making a decision beween AIX (a total vertical solution) and Linux. AIX and Linux both still exist and IBM makes money on both technologies in different markets.— Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All What is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? In hong kong or china, customer is deciding to switch to Openstack from VMWare to save cost. There will be nobody to buy vmware solution and build openstack on top of it, and there is no one will build their cloud half in vmware and half in openstack too. They did that because of some reasons: 1) If customer have budget to purchase vmware, vmware's vendor will provide them total solution, 100% in vmware infrastructure. The vendor is not interest to sell customer with vmware solution and build an openstack on top of it, because they think it is useless. The vendors think the dashboard cannot compete with vCenter. vCenter still the best option to manage vmware. Similarly, nobody can create a tool to replace microsoft management tool for SQL server, noone will get a success. 2) for private cloud, customer is thinking *EITHER* vmware or openstack, that mean they are competitor. Why alliance with an enemy? Thanksfrom Peter (Pandora dev team) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
OpenStack is an open-source foundation with lots of potential competitors working together to build a common infrastructure. As long as they abide by the contributor license agreement anyone is welcome to participate in our open-source community. So, OpenStack doesn't have an alliance with VMware. If you are asking why VmWare chose to participate as heavily as it does in OpenStack, there is a lot of business analysis/speculation out there in the blogsphere, but the short answer is that markets change. I'm sure that there were folks wondering why IBM participated in Linux at the time when customers were making a decision beween AIX (a total vertical solution) and Linux. AIX and Linux both still exist and IBM makes money on both technologies in different markets. — Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All What is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? In hong kong or china, customer is deciding to switch to Openstack from VMWare to save cost. There will be nobody to buy vmware solution and build openstack on top of it, and there is no one will build their cloud half in vmware and half in openstack too. They did that because of some reasons: 1) If customer have budget to purchase vmware, vmware's vendor will provide them total solution, 100% in vmware infrastructure. The vendor is not interest to sell customer with vmware solution and build an openstack on top of it, because they think it is useless. The vendors think the dashboard cannot compete with vCenter. vCenter still the best option to manage vmware. Similarly, nobody can create a tool to replace microsoft management tool for SQL server, noone will get a success. 2) for private cloud, customer is thinking *EITHER* vmware or openstack, that mean they are competitor. Why alliance with an enemy? Thanksfrom Peter (Pandora dev team) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
Hi All What is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? In hong kong or china, customer is deciding to switch to Openstack from VMWare to save cost. There will be nobody to buy vmware solution and build openstack on top of it, and there is no one will build their cloud half in vmware and half in openstack too. They did that because of some reasons: 1) If customer have budget to purchase vmware, vmware's vendor will provide them total solution, 100% in vmware infrastructure. The vendor is not interest to sell customer with vmware solution and build an openstack on top of it, because they think it is useless. The vendors think the dashboard cannot compete with vCenter. vCenter still the best option to manage vmware. Similarly, nobody can create a tool to replace microsoft management tool for SQL server, noone will get a success. 2) for private cloud, customer is thinking *EITHER* vmware or openstack, that mean they are competitor. Why alliance with an enemy? Thanksfrom Peter (Pandora dev team) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
