[openstack-dev] [heat] Meeting time changed.

2017-02-06 Thread Rico Lin 
Dear Team

Without any further opposition, let's move our meeting time to *Wednesday
1500 UTC  in #openstack-meeting-5 weekly*.
Start from this week, so don't forget to attend:)
Please add any item for meeting:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-02-08_1500_UTC.29
New meeting calendar
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Heat_(Orchestration)_Team_Meeting
Don't forget to change your calendar.

Feel free to propose any additional meeting or any other proposition
through #heat irc channel or Mailing list.
See you all there :)

BTW *We're still collecting information for our PTG, *
** please add yourself to the attendee list in etherpad if you're going.
This allows us to make sure what and who we going to meet and discussed
during PTG. *
** Also please add your idea to PTG if you think that's the right thing for
heat.*

*link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-pike-ptg-sessions
*


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BEGIN:VCALENDAR
VERSION:2.0
PRODID:-//yaml2ical agendas//EN
BEGIN:VEVENT
SUMMARY:Heat (Orchestration) Team Meeting
DTSTART;VALUE=DATE-TIME:20170208T15Z
DURATION:PT1H
RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY
DESCRIPTION:Project:  Heat (Orchestration) Team Meeting\nChair:  Rico Lin 
 (ricolin)\nDescription:  The heat Orchestration project team holds a meeti
 ng where everyone is welcome. The blueprints that are used as a basis for 
 the heat project can be found at: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat\n\
 nAgenda URL:  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda
LOCATION:#openstack-meeting-5
END:VEVENT
END:VCALENDAR
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time

2016-04-04 Thread Thomas Herve 
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Thomas Herve  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Thomas Herve  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to be able to attend at least one of the IRC meeting, and it
>> doesn't really work right now. So if you'd like to come to meetings,
>> please fill the following doodle:
>> http://doodle.com/poll/4m6aicfnwuug86rs
>
> The times are in UTC!

All right, results are in. It's fairly spread out as expected, but
I'll move the morning one up to 8UTC and the other to 15UTC; We'll try
for a bit and change if necessary.

We're going to fix our alignment with the calendar too, so next
meeting Wednesday at 8UTC.

Thanks!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Herve 
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Thomas Herve  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to be able to attend at least one of the IRC meeting, and it
> doesn't really work right now. So if you'd like to come to meetings,
> please fill the following doodle:
> http://doodle.com/poll/4m6aicfnwuug86rs

The times are in UTC!

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[openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Herve 
Hi all,

I'd like to be able to attend at least one of the IRC meeting, and it
doesn't really work right now. So if you'd like to come to meetings,
please fill the following doodle:
http://doodle.com/poll/4m6aicfnwuug86rs

Note that I'll try to make the best choice depending on my selfish
availability, and who's already active currently in meetings. I may
just move the 20UTC meeting to something like 15UTC if that's OK.

Thanks!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-25 Thread Huruifeng (Victor) 
Agree with shardy that the meeting structure should be inclusive. Since it's a 
global project, it would be better to allow people from different time zones to 
attend the meeting. Of course, PTL be on the scene is most important.

For me, personally, I'm new to Openstack and willing to contribute to Heat. I 
learned a lot from the website and maillist. And I'm planning to join the IRC 
meeting from next week for i think it would be a great help to get involved. 
00:00UTC or 12:00UTC (it's 8 am or 8 pm here)  both suit me (and people in the 
same team with me) well.

Though there will never be a convenient time for all people, I believe passion 
would conquer inconvenience:)

Regards,
胡瑞丰(Victor)
2014-04-25

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On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 03:12:40PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote:

 At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for

 the Heat weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in

 Asia would be able to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't

 worked out as well as we had hoped - even the new time falls at 8am

 in Beijing, so folks are regularly unable to make the meeting. It

 also falls at 5pm on the west coast of the US, so folks from there

 are also regularly unable to make the meeting too. And of course it

 is in the middle of the night for Europe, so the meeting room looks

 like a ghost town.



 Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different

 location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places,

 let's review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:



 * Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.



Do we know why it's not working? 8am and 5pm seem like relatively

reasonable times from where I'm sitting, so would tweaking it by a couple

of hours make any difference?



 * Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China,

 late night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and

 we lose the rest of the US.)



 * Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the

 world at around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would

 have to ask someone else to take care of passing on

 messages-from-the-PTL.)



Personally I think it's important for the PTL to attend most meetings, so

-1 on this.



 * Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.



I'm mildly in favour of this, but probably only for selfish reasons since

the current alternating time is bad for me personally ;)



I definitely want our meeting structure to be inclusive, but I don't really

have a clear idea of how many are exlcuded from participating (i.e those

who actually will turn up if we continue alternating), so unless we get

feedback from folks saying they will turn up at $alternating_time to solve

the ghost town problem, I'm in favour of abandoning.



My ￡0.002 :)



Steve




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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-24 Thread Pavlo Shchelokovskyy 
Hello Zane,

either alt abandon or alt 12:00UTC are fine with me.
Loosing _all_ US folks is clearly not an option.
Besides, I think it would be good to have PTL attending both normal and alt
meetings, if there are such.

Best regards,
Pavlo.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Sergey Kraynev skray...@mirantis.comwrote:

 Hello Zane.

 It's really the great news, that you would like to make some changes in
 the alt meeting time.
 I agree with folks, that creating meeting at the time when we lose a lot
 of people from US is not a good idea.
 I think that we should have meeting at the time which will be comfortable
 for the most part of the core team.

 About alternative time: both variant looks good for me ;)

 From the other side (if don't forget about ideas above), I prefer to
 abandon the alt meeting and move it at 19.00 UTC (if we want to have some
 alternative in the time).

 Anyway, thank you for the good ideas ;)

 Regards,
 Sergey.


 On 23 April 2014 23:12, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote:

 At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for the
 Heat weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in Asia would be
 able to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't worked out as well as we
 had hoped - even the new time falls at 8am in Beijing, so folks are
 regularly unable to make the meeting. It also falls at 5pm on the west
 coast of the US, so folks from there are also regularly unable to make the
 meeting too. And of course it is in the middle of the night for Europe, so
 the meeting room looks like a ghost town.

 Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different
 location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places, let's
 review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:

 * Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.

 * Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China, late
 night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and we lose the
 rest of the US.)

 * Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the world at
 around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would have to ask someone
 else to take care of passing on messages-from-the-PTL.)

 * Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.

 What would people prefer? I'd particularly like to hear from folks based
 in Asia what times would enable them to regularly attend, while still
 ensuring there are other people there to talk to ;)

 thanks,
 Zane.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-24 Thread Steven Hardy 
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 03:12:40PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote:
 At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for
 the Heat weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in
 Asia would be able to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't
 worked out as well as we had hoped - even the new time falls at 8am
 in Beijing, so folks are regularly unable to make the meeting. It
 also falls at 5pm on the west coast of the US, so folks from there
 are also regularly unable to make the meeting too. And of course it
 is in the middle of the night for Europe, so the meeting room looks
 like a ghost town.
 
 Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different
 location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places,
 let's review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:
 
 * Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.

Do we know why it's not working?  8am and 5pm seem like relatively
reasonable times from where I'm sitting, so would tweaking it by a couple
of hours make any difference?

 * Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China,
 late night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and
 we lose the rest of the US.)
 
 * Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the
 world at around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would
 have to ask someone else to take care of passing on
 messages-from-the-PTL.)

Personally I think it's important for the PTL to attend most meetings, so
-1 on this.

 * Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.

I'm mildly in favour of this, but probably only for selfish reasons since
the current alternating time is bad for me personally ;)

I definitely want our meeting structure to be inclusive, but I don't really
have a clear idea of how many are exlcuded from participating (i.e those
who actually will turn up if we continue alternating), so unless we get
feedback from folks saying they will turn up at $alternating_time to solve
the ghost town problem, I'm in favour of abandoning.

My £0.002 :)

Steve

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-23 Thread Steven Dake 

On 04/23/2014 12:12 PM, Zane Bitter wrote:
At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for the 
Heat weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in Asia 
would be able to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't worked out 
as well as we had hoped - even the new time falls at 8am in Beijing, 
so folks are regularly unable to make the meeting. It also falls at 
5pm on the west coast of the US, so folks from there are also 
regularly unable to make the meeting too. And of course it is in the 
middle of the night for Europe, so the meeting room looks like a ghost 
town.


Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different 
location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places, let's 
review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:


* Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.

* Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China, 
late night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and 
we lose the rest of the US.)


* Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the world 
at around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would have to ask 
someone else to take care of passing on messages-from-the-PTL.)


* Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.


abandon

What would people prefer? I'd particularly like to hear from folks 
based in Asia what times would enable them to regularly attend, while 
still ensuring there are other people there to talk to ;)


thanks,
Zane.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-23 Thread Matthew Oliver 
Seeing as its a global project, there will never be a great time.
Alternating in nice, but that has the potential for someone missing
important events for having their say cause they may just wait to the next
more convenient meeting.

We could have meetings based off where most contributors are, but that has
the potential of stifling other contributors who want to get more involved
(like me, but luckily I'm in Oz so a good timezone for the current
meetings).

We can keep them as they are, or keep it democratic, I think that the PTL
should try and attend most meetings as they have been elected to help guide
the project. Seeing as they are elected and should be there how about
having a meeting time that best suits them? Tho that would effect me this
time :)

We vote for PTL so it is democratic, it's always going to be a bad time
somewhere in the world, so this makes it fair. And everyone who wants to be
involved will always know the time.
Best part is, if someone doesn't like it, let them run for PTL.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the matter.

Matt
On Apr 24, 2014 5:17 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote:

 At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for the Heat
 weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in Asia would be able
 to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't worked out as well as we had
 hoped - even the new time falls at 8am in Beijing, so folks are regularly
 unable to make the meeting. It also falls at 5pm on the west coast of the
 US, so folks from there are also regularly unable to make the meeting too.
 And of course it is in the middle of the night for Europe, so the meeting
 room looks like a ghost town.

 Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different
 location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places, let's
 review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:

 * Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.

 * Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China, late
 night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and we lose the
 rest of the US.)

 * Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the world at
 around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would have to ask someone
 else to take care of passing on messages-from-the-PTL.)

 * Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.

 What would people prefer? I'd particularly like to hear from folks based
 in Asia what times would enable them to regularly attend, while still
 ensuring there are other people there to talk to ;)

 thanks,
 Zane.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Meeting time redux

2014-04-23 Thread Qiming Teng 
Well, in a world where people are driven crazy by all kinds of internal
and external work items, it would be definitely difficult to find a time
slot that suits everyone.

In a MNE like IBM, we always have this problem. We do a lot of meetings
in evenings (before 11:30pm most of the time), and some early morning
conference calls.  

At least, losing all US-based folks is not a good option. Having PTL in
the discussion is desirable, certainly.

Just two cents from me.

Regards,
  - Qiming

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 03:12:40PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote:
 At the beginning of this year we introduced alternating times for
 the Heat weekly IRC meeting, in the hope that our contributors in
 Asia would be able to join us. The consensus is that this hasn't
 worked out as well as we had hoped - even the new time falls at 8am
 in Beijing, so folks are regularly unable to make the meeting. It
 also falls at 5pm on the west coast of the US, so folks from there
 are also regularly unable to make the meeting too. And of course it
 is in the middle of the night for Europe, so the meeting room looks
 like a ghost town.
 
 Since we are in a new development cycle (with the PTL in a different
 location) and daylight savings has kicked in/out in many places,
 let's review our options. Here are our choices as I see it:
 
 * Keep going with the current system or some minor tweak to it.
 
 * Flip the alternate meeting by 12 hours to 1200 UTC. (8pm in China,
 late night in Oceania, early-morning on the east coast of the US and
 we lose the rest of the US.)
 
 * Lose all US-based folks and have a meeting for the rest of the
 world at around 0700 UTC. (US-based folks include me, so I would
 have to ask someone else to take care of passing on
 messages-from-the-PTL.)
 
 * Abandon the alternating meetings altogether.
 
 What would people prefer? I'd particularly like to hear from folks
 based in Asia what times would enable them to regularly attend,
 while still ensuring there are other people there to talk to ;)
 
 thanks,
 Zane.
 
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