Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-16 Thread Hochmuth, Roland M
Hi Ildikó, That will be great if you can attend. If you do, would it be
possible for you to present an overview and current status/plans of the
Ceilometer work around the componentization? I was at the discussion in
Vancouver on this, and several others from Monasca were there too, but I
haven't stayed connected.

The information for the Monasca Meetings as well as minutes is at,
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Monasca. If you have any problems
connecting in, please let me know. We recently switched to WebEx, which is
hosted by Cisco. Everything should work, but if there are any problems we
can switch to IRC.

If Tuesday's at 4:00 PM UTC are problematic, then we would consider
setting up a separate time to cover this topic or move the Monasca meeting
the following week.

Regards --Roland



On 8/14/15, 6:57 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote:

Hi,

I will try to join if I can, I have an overlapping meeting on Tuesdays.

In general I think it would be really good to start a closer
collaboration, the componentization work in Ceilometer gives a really
good opportunity as Chris described.

Best Regards,
Ildikó

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 From: Chris Dent [mailto:chd...@redhat.com]
 Sent: August 12, 2015 15:45
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meetup
 
 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:
 
  It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a Ceilometer
  meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which is held Tuesday
  mornings at 9:00 MST.
 
 I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo
people could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the
 week after.
 
 I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid
duplicating code and effort but that there will be some humps to ride
over
 to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
 Should be fun. Looking forward to it.
 
 --
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 https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-16 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi Roland,

Thanks for the meeting info.

Let me come back to you regarding the attendance of the next Monasca meeting. I 
messed up with time zones and slots a bit and I realized now that the slot is 
4pm UTC as opposed to 3pm UTC as I originally thought. I have a bi-weekly 
meeting in my calendar colliding with the upcoming slot, but for the past few 
occurrences it was cancelled, I need to check the next one with the organizer.

If I can attend, I can briefly talk about the componentization work.

Best Regards,
Ildikó

 -Original Message-
 From: Hochmuth, Roland M [mailto:roland.hochm...@hp.com]
 Sent: August 16, 2015 09:37
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup
 
 Hi Ildikó, That will be great if you can attend. If you do, would it be 
 possible for you to present an overview and current status/plans of
 the Ceilometer work around the componentization? I was at the discussion in 
 Vancouver on this, and several others from Monasca
 were there too, but I haven't stayed connected.
 
 The information for the Monasca Meetings as well as minutes is at, 
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Monasca. If you have
 any problems connecting in, please let me know. We recently switched to 
 WebEx, which is hosted by Cisco. Everything should work,
 but if there are any problems we can switch to IRC.
 
 If Tuesday's at 4:00 PM UTC are problematic, then we would consider setting 
 up a separate time to cover this topic or move the
 Monasca meeting the following week.
 
 Regards --Roland
 
 
 
 On 8/14/15, 6:57 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I will try to join if I can, I have an overlapping meeting on Tuesdays.
 
 In general I think it would be really good to start a closer
 collaboration, the componentization work in Ceilometer gives a really
 good opportunity as Chris described.
 
 Best Regards,
 Ildikó
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Dent [mailto:chd...@redhat.com]
  Sent: August 12, 2015 15:45
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle
 meetup
 
  On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:
 
   It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a
   Ceilometer meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which
   is held Tuesday mornings at 9:00 MST.
 
  I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo
 people could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the  week
 after.
 
  I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid
 duplicating code and effort but that there will be some humps to ride
 over  to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
  Should be fun. Looking forward to it.
 
  --
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  https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-16 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi Roland,

As I saw, the wiki says 4pm UTC too, please check it.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Ildikó

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 From: Hochmuth, Roland M [mailto:roland.hochm...@hp.com]
 Sent: August 16, 2015 17:14
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 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup
 
 Ildikó, I think you are correct on the time. The meeting is at 3:00 PM UTC, 
 which is 9:00 AM MDT. Sorry, the time I mentioned was
 incorrect.
 Regards --Roland
 
 
 
 On 8/16/15, 7:42 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote:
 
 Hi Roland,
 
 Thanks for the meeting info.
 
 Let me come back to you regarding the attendance of the next Monasca
 meeting. I messed up with time zones and slots a bit and I realized now
 that the slot is 4pm UTC as opposed to 3pm UTC as I originally thought.
 I have a bi-weekly meeting in my calendar colliding with the upcoming
 slot, but for the past few occurrences it was cancelled, I need to
 check the next one with the organizer.
 
 If I can attend, I can briefly talk about the componentization work.
 
 Best Regards,
 Ildikó
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Hochmuth, Roland M [mailto:roland.hochm...@hp.com]
  Sent: August 16, 2015 09:37
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle
 meetup
 
  Hi Ildikó, That will be great if you can attend. If you do, would it
 be possible for you to present an overview and current status/plans of
 the Ceilometer work around the componentization? I was at the
 discussion in Vancouver on this, and several others from Monasca  were
 there too, but I haven't stayed connected.
 
  The information for the Monasca Meetings as well as minutes is at,
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Monasca. If you have  any
 problems connecting in, please let me know. We recently switched to
 WebEx, which is hosted by Cisco. Everything should work,  but if there
 are any problems we can switch to IRC.
 
  If Tuesday's at 4:00 PM UTC are problematic, then we would consider
 setting up a separate time to cover this topic or move the  Monasca
 meeting the following week.
 
  Regards --Roland
 
 
 
  On 8/14/15, 6:57 AM, Ildikó Váncsa ildiko.van...@ericsson.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  I will try to join if I can, I have an overlapping meeting on Tuesdays.
  
  In general I think it would be really good to start a closer
  collaboration, the componentization work in Ceilometer gives a
  really good opportunity as Chris described.
  
  Best Regards,
  Ildikó
  
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   Sent: August 12, 2015 15:45
   To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
   Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca
  mid-cycle meetup
  
   On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:
  
It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a
Ceilometer meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting
which is held Tuesday mornings at 9:00 MST.
  
   I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo
  people could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the  week
  after.
  
   I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid
  duplicating code and effort but that there will be some humps to
  ride over  to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
   Should be fun. Looking forward to it.
  
   --
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   https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent
  
  
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-14 Thread Dexter Fryar


 From: ildiko.van...@ericsson.com
 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:57:27 +
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup
 
 Hi,
 
 I will try to join if I can, I have an overlapping meeting on Tuesdays.
 
 In general I think it would be really good to start a closer collaboration, 
 the componentization work in Ceilometer gives a really good opportunity as 
 Chris described.
 
 Best Regards,
 Ildikó
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Dent [mailto:chd...@redhat.com]
  Sent: August 12, 2015 15:45
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup
  
  On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:
  
   It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a Ceilometer
   meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which is held Tuesday
   mornings at 9:00 MST.
  
  I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo people 
  could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the
  week after.
  
  I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid duplicating 
  code and effort but that there will be some humps to ride over
  to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
  Should be fun. Looking forward to it.
  
  --
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-14 Thread Ildikó Váncsa
Hi,

I will try to join if I can, I have an overlapping meeting on Tuesdays.

In general I think it would be really good to start a closer collaboration, the 
componentization work in Ceilometer gives a really good opportunity as Chris 
described.

Best Regards,
Ildikó

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Dent [mailto:chd...@redhat.com]
 Sent: August 12, 2015 15:45
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup
 
 On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:
 
  It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a Ceilometer
  meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which is held Tuesday
  mornings at 9:00 MST.
 
 I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo people 
 could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the
 week after.
 
 I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid duplicating code 
 and effort but that there will be some humps to ride over
 to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
 Should be fun. Looking forward to it.
 
 --
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 https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-12 Thread Chris Dent

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:


It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a Ceilometer
meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which is held Tuesday
mornings at 9:00 MST.


I'm away this coming Tuesday, but perhaps some of the other Ceilo
people could show up? I've got it on my schedule to come the week
after.

I suspect there's a lot we can do over the long run to avoid
duplicating code and effort but that there will be some humps to
ride over to different pieces (and people!) talking to one another.
Should be fun. Looking forward to it.

--
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-11 Thread Chris Dent

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:


The minutes for the meetup are at,
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_liberty_mid_cycle. If anyone
would like to discuss further or would like further clarification please
let me know.


Thanks for posting that and the linked etherpads.

One thing I noticed was a section on summit activities about joint
sessions with other projects. I'd like to encourage Monasca folk and
Ceilometer folk to have at least one joint session.

Many people within the Ceilometer project are working hard to decompose
its various bits of functionality to make it more usable in diverse
toolchains. Making sure that the extracted alarm system (now called
Aodh) and the forthcoming extracted polling system will be useful to
Monasca is a priority.

Some parts of Ceilometer (the data gathering aspects perhaps?)
presumably have greater potential use to Monasca than others (the
legacy mongodb and SQL-based datastores). Working together to
ensure interoperability of the important parts would be good.

I think present-day Ceilometer and Monasca are working on the same goal:
Making an alternative to the old Ceilometer. It seems likely there is
some productive collaboration that can happen?

--
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-11 Thread Hochmuth, Roland M
Hi Chris,

Thanks for reaching out. I would be interested in joint sessions on
Monasca and Ceilometer at the Tokyo Summit. We had a joint
Ceilometer/Monasca session at the Paris Design Summit and had identified
several areas to work on together. It has been a while since we've sync'd
up though. We should probably get together prior to the Tokyo Summit to
plan further.

The work that you are doing to split-out components is very interesting to
the Monasca project. We were really interested in the direction that this
was headed. As you mention, the Ceilometer data collection pipeline is
extremely interesting to Monasca. The work that we've been doing around
what we refer to as Ceilosca, is where we see immediate utilization. I
think you were at the session in Vancouver where some folks mentioned the
possibility of using the Ceilometer data collection pipeline to send to
Monasca, and that aligns with our thoughts too.

Although the Monasca Agent supports collecting a lot of different metrics,
the one area that it needs additional capabilities is collecting metrics
and events for OpenStack resources. The Monasca Agent supports collecting
metrics for instances/Vms, but we would like to add support for the rest
of the OpenStack resources and don't want to re-create this in our Agent.
Currently, we've been addressing this problem via a Ceilometer to Monasca
publisher in the repo at, https://github.com/stackforge/monasca-ceilometer.

The alarm system, called Aodh, is also potentially interesting. Monasca
also has a alarm/threshold engine that is an in-memory streaming alarm
engine based on Apache Storm. Everything in Monasca has been ported to
Python, except for the Monasca Threshold Engine. As Aodh is written in
Python already, maybe it could be a drop in Python replacement for our
existing Threshold Engine as we would like to get the remaining component
moved over to Python.

It sounds like we should connect up soon. I could attend a Ceilometer
meeting, or you could attend the Monasca meeting which is held Tuesday
mornings at 9:00 MST.

Regards --Roland


On 8/11/15, 1:53 AM, Chris Dent chd...@redhat.com wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015, Hochmuth, Roland M wrote:

 The minutes for the meetup are at,
 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_liberty_mid_cycle. If anyone
 would like to discuss further or would like further clarification please
 let me know.

Thanks for posting that and the linked etherpads.

One thing I noticed was a section on summit activities about joint
sessions with other projects. I'd like to encourage Monasca folk and
Ceilometer folk to have at least one joint session.

Many people within the Ceilometer project are working hard to decompose
its various bits of functionality to make it more usable in diverse
toolchains. Making sure that the extracted alarm system (now called
Aodh) and the forthcoming extracted polling system will be useful to
Monasca is a priority.

Some parts of Ceilometer (the data gathering aspects perhaps?)
presumably have greater potential use to Monasca than others (the
legacy mongodb and SQL-based datastores). Working together to
ensure interoperability of the important parts would be good.

I think present-day Ceilometer and Monasca are working on the same goal:
Making an alternative to the old Ceilometer. It seems likely there is
some productive collaboration that can happen?

-- 
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[openstack-dev] [Monasca] Minutes for Monasca mid-cycle meetup

2015-08-10 Thread Hochmuth, Roland M
Thanks to all that attended the Monasca Mid-cycle Meetup last week. The
meet-up was well attended and we had good overviews, content and
discussions.

The minutes for the meetup are at,
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca_liberty_mid_cycle. If anyone
would like to discuss further or would like further clarification please
let me know.

Regards --Roland


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