Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-23 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Jay Dobies jason.dob...@redhat.com wrote:
 At the meetup today, the topic of our spec process came up. The general
 sentiment is that the process is still young and the hiccups are expected,
 but we do need to get better about making sure we're staying on top of them.

 As a first step, it was proposed to add 1 spec review a week to the existing
 3 reviews per day requirement for cores.

 Additionally, we're going to start to capture and review the metrics on spec
 patches specifically during the weekly meeting. That should help bring to
 light how long reviews are sitting in the queue without being touched.

 What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week requirement
 for cores?

You mean cores in Ironic and not the cores in the ironic-spec-core
group[1] right?

Either way, 1 review per week seems to be very reasonable, the minimum
you can expect from a core, so +1 for the idea.

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/352,members

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-23 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Oh sorry... I thought it was about Ironic not TripleO (morning issues)

Anyway, it could be something that we could adopt in Ironic as well :)

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Lucas Alvares Gomes
lucasago...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Jay Dobies jason.dob...@redhat.com wrote:
 At the meetup today, the topic of our spec process came up. The general
 sentiment is that the process is still young and the hiccups are expected,
 but we do need to get better about making sure we're staying on top of them.

 As a first step, it was proposed to add 1 spec review a week to the existing
 3 reviews per day requirement for cores.

 Additionally, we're going to start to capture and review the metrics on spec
 patches specifically during the weekly meeting. That should help bring to
 light how long reviews are sitting in the queue without being touched.

 What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week requirement
 for cores?

 You mean cores in Ironic and not the cores in the ironic-spec-core
 group[1] right?

 Either way, 1 review per week seems to be very reasonable, the minimum
 you can expect from a core, so +1 for the idea.

 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/352,members

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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-23 Thread Alexis Lee
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Jay Dobies jason.dob...@redhat.com wrote:
 What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week requirement
 for cores?

Averaged over the standard 90d period I presume?

+1 here.


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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-23 Thread Ben Nemec
For everyone's reference, the tripleo-specs stats can be found here:
http://www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/tripleo-specs-30.txt

Note that looking at the stats, over 30 days 1 review per week is only
4, which most of our cores are already doing anyway.  I'm not sure
codifying a requirement to do at least that is going to help much.  To
move the needle I'm thinking we would need at least 3 - most of our
cores aren't meeting that today so it would actually require everyone to
do more reviews.  Spec reviews are difficult and tend to take a
significant amount of time, so that would be a considerable increase in
time commitments for cores.  I'm not sure how I feel about that,
although I'm probably biased because I'm not at 3 per week right now.
:-)

-Ben

On 2014-07-22 15:18, Jay Dobies wrote:
 At the meetup today, the topic of our spec process came up. The
 general sentiment is that the process is still young and the hiccups
 are expected, but we do need to get better about making sure we're
 staying on top of them.
 
 As a first step, it was proposed to add 1 spec review a week to the
 existing 3 reviews per day requirement for cores.
 
 Additionally, we're going to start to capture and review the metrics
 on spec patches specifically during the weekly meeting. That should
 help bring to light how long reviews are sitting in the queue without
 being touched.
 
 What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week
 requirement for cores?
 
 Not surprisingly, I'm +1 for it  :)
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-23 Thread Macdonald-Wallace, Matthew
So given the increased complexity of a spec, why not make it 2 specs per week?

Matt

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 For everyone's reference, the tripleo-specs stats can be found here:
 http://www.nemebean.com/reviewstats/tripleo-specs-30.txt
 
 Note that looking at the stats, over 30 days 1 review per week is only 4, 
 which
 most of our cores are already doing anyway.  I'm not sure codifying a
 requirement to do at least that is going to help much.  To move the needle I'm
 thinking we would need at least 3 - most of our cores aren't meeting that 
 today
 so it would actually require everyone to do more reviews.  Spec reviews are
 difficult and tend to take a significant amount of time, so that would be a
 considerable increase in time commitments for cores.  I'm not sure how I feel
 about that, although I'm probably biased because I'm not at 3 per week right
 now.
 :-)
 
 -Ben
 
 On 2014-07-22 15:18, Jay Dobies wrote:
  At the meetup today, the topic of our spec process came up. The
  general sentiment is that the process is still young and the hiccups
  are expected, but we do need to get better about making sure we're
  staying on top of them.
 
  As a first step, it was proposed to add 1 spec review a week to the
  existing 3 reviews per day requirement for cores.
 
  Additionally, we're going to start to capture and review the metrics
  on spec patches specifically during the weekly meeting. That should
  help bring to light how long reviews are sitting in the queue without
  being touched.
 
  What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week
  requirement for cores?
 
  Not surprisingly, I'm +1 for it  :)
 
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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Spec Minimum Review Proposal

2014-07-22 Thread Jay Dobies
At the meetup today, the topic of our spec process came up. The general 
sentiment is that the process is still young and the hiccups are 
expected, but we do need to get better about making sure we're staying 
on top of them.


As a first step, it was proposed to add 1 spec review a week to the 
existing 3 reviews per day requirement for cores.


Additionally, we're going to start to capture and review the metrics on 
spec patches specifically during the weekly meeting. That should help 
bring to light how long reviews are sitting in the queue without being 
touched.


What are everyone's feelings on adding a 1 spec review per week 
requirement for cores?


Not surprisingly, I'm +1 for it  :)

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