Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group
On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: > My 2c is we should say "The liason should be the PTL or whomever they > delegate to be their representative" and not mention anything about the > person needing to be a core developer. It removes any ambiguity about who > ultimately decides who the liason is (the PTL) without saying that they have > to do the work themselves. Sure. Go ahead and change it to that. Everett ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Everett Toews wrote: > On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > > > On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote: > >> The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not > >> need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL. > > > > ]Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I > recommended he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I would > raise the issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be loosened to > include non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :) > > I’m totally fine with that. Ideally it’s the person who is the most > passionate about the API from the team, regardless of core status. > > The current wording on the Cross-Project Liaisons page is > > "The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need > to be the PTL.” > > I think the key word there is _should_. Naturally, it’s preferable to want > a core reviewer in this role because they have more say about what gets > into the code base but it’s not an absolute must. > > We can loosen the wording further but I think it’s okay to proceed with a > non-core reviewer, especially if that person is passionate about APIs. > > My 2c is we should say "The liason should be the PTL or whomever they delegate to be their representative" and not mention anything about the person needing to be a core developer. It removes any ambiguity about who ultimately decides who the liason is (the PTL) without saying that they have to do the work themselves. Regards, Chris > Everett > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group
On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote: >> The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not >> need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL. > > ]Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I recommended > he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I would raise the > issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be loosened to include > non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :) I’m totally fine with that. Ideally it’s the person who is the most passionate about the API from the team, regardless of core status. The current wording on the Cross-Project Liaisons page is "The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL.” I think the key word there is _should_. Naturally, it’s preferable to want a core reviewer in this role because they have more say about what gets into the code base but it’s not an absolute must. We can loosen the wording further but I think it’s okay to proceed with a non-core reviewer, especially if that person is passionate about APIs. Everett ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group
On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL. Hi Everett! Thanks for taking on this action item and following up this week. I'm still on vacation (crappy wireless and all...) but I did have a quick email back and forth with Eoghan about whether it's absolutely necessary for the liaison to be a core team member. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with a non-core team member taking responsibility for being an API WG liaison. After all, it doesn't necessarily follow that those who shepherd the source tree and reviews should necessarily be the only pool from which to find API-focused individuals. Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with Eoghan was that I recommended he submit a core for the API liaison to start, and that I would raise the issue on the ML to see if those conditions may be loosened to include non-cores. And... here is that issue being raised :) Thoughts? Best, -jay ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group
Hello PTLs of Ceilometer, Heat, Horizon, and Trove, The purpose of the API Working Group [1] is to propose, discuss, review, and advocate for API guidelines for all OpenStack Programs to follow. We’re seeking API subject matter experts and a cross-project liaison [2] for each project to communicate plans for API updates, review API guidelines with their project's view in mind, and review the API Working Group guidelines as they are drafted. The liaison should be familiar with the project's REST API design and future planning for changes to it. The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL. The liaison is the first line of contact for the API Working Group team members The liaison may further delegate work to other subject matter experts The liaison should be aware of and engaged in the API Working Group Communication channels This was discussed at the Kilo design summit and we already had representatives from many of the other projects sign up. We would like to have liaisons from your projects as well. Thanks, Everett [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/API_Working_Group [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#API_Working_Group ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev