Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Sean McGinniswrote: >> >> == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == >> >> In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a >> dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals >> proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which >> ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we >> should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list >> for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, >> 20:00utc. How does that sound ? >> >> > > I have a busy couple of weeks of travel coming up, so I'm not sure if I will > be there or not. I will try to attend, and if that does not work out, I will > try to provided input via the ML before or after the meeting. I am in the same boat as Sean. In fact, travelling to the same places :) -- Dims > > Sean > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Davanum Srinivas :: https://twitter.com/dims __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
> > == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == > > In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a > dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals > proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which > ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we > should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list > for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, > 20:00utc. How does that sound ? > > I have a busy couple of weeks of travel coming up, so I'm not sure if I will be there or not. I will try to attend, and if that does not work out, I will try to provided input via the ML before or after the meeting. Sean __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
On 11:17 Jun 16, Thierry Carrez wrote: > == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == > > In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a > dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals > proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which > ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we > should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list > for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, > 20:00utc. How does that sound ? I will be there since I started facilitating this back at the forum. -- Mike Perez signature.asc Description: PGP signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
Since there are 2 topics that are very very important to me: 1. binary resolution waiting for votes 2. kolla stable:follows-policy tag Is there anything I can to do help with either? On 16 June 2017 at 09:23, Thierry Carrezwrote: > Clay Gerrard wrote: >> I'm loving this new ML thing the TC is doing! Like... I'm not going to >> come to the meeting. I'm not a helpful person in general and probably >> wouldn't have anything productive to say. >> >> But I love the *idea* that I know *when and where* this is being decided >> so that if I *did* care enough about community goals to come make a >> stink about it I know exactly what I should do - _show up and say my >> piece_! Just this *idea* is going to help a *ton* later when John tells >> me "shut up clay; just review the patch" [1] - because if I had >> something to say about it i should have been there when it was time to >> say something about it! > > FWIW the "decision" won't be made at the meeting, but we'll try to reach > consensus on the set of goals we find reasonable to propose. Expect > another heated thread as a result of the meeting :) > > -- > Thierry Carrez (ttx) > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
Clay Gerrard wrote: > I'm loving this new ML thing the TC is doing! Like... I'm not going to > come to the meeting. I'm not a helpful person in general and probably > wouldn't have anything productive to say. > > But I love the *idea* that I know *when and where* this is being decided > so that if I *did* care enough about community goals to come make a > stink about it I know exactly what I should do - _show up and say my > piece_! Just this *idea* is going to help a *ton* later when John tells > me "shut up clay; just review the patch" [1] - because if I had > something to say about it i should have been there when it was time to > say something about it! FWIW the "decision" won't be made at the meeting, but we'll try to reach consensus on the set of goals we find reasonable to propose. Expect another heated thread as a result of the meeting :) -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Doug Hellmannwrote: > Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2017-06-16 11:17:30 +0200: > > > == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == > > > > In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a > > dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals > > proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which > > ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we > > should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list > > for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, > > 20:00utc. How does that sound ? > > > > +1 > > I'm loving this new ML thing the TC is doing! Like... I'm not going to come to the meeting. I'm not a helpful person in general and probably wouldn't have anything productive to say. But I love the *idea* that I know *when and where* this is being decided so that if I *did* care enough about community goals to come make a stink about it I know exactly what I should do - _show up and say my piece_! Just this *idea* is going to help a *ton* later when John tells me "shut up clay; just review the patch" [1] - because if I had something to say about it i should have been there when it was time to say something about it! Obvs, if anyone *else* has a passion about community goals and how OpenStack uses them to push for positive change in the boarder ecosystem (and thinks they can elucidate that on IRC to positive results). *YOU* should *totally* be there! Y'all have fun, -Clay 1. N.B. john is *not* a high conflict guy; but he's dealt with me for ~20years so he get's a pass __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2017-06-16 11:17:30 +0200: > == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == > > In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a > dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals > proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which > ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we > should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list > for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, > 20:00utc. How does that sound ? > +1 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
On 2017-06-16 11:17:30 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] > In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a > dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals > proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which > ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we > should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list > for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, > 20:00utc. How does that sound ? Works for me; I agree this would be helpful. Thanks for proposing! -- Jeremy Stanley signature.asc Description: Digital signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [tc] Status update, Jun 16
Hi! Back on regular schedule, here is an update on the status of a number of TC-proposed governance changes, in an attempt to rely less on a weekly meeting to convey that information. You can find the full status list of open topics at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee == Recently-approved changes == * Follow-up precisions on office hours [1] * New git repositories: fuxi-golang * Updated links to Vitrage developer documentation * Pike goal responses for freezer, cloudkitty [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470926/ == Open discussions == A new draft was produced for the TC vision, taking into account some of the feedback we received on the initial draft. Please review: * Begin integrating vision feedback and editing for style [1] [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473620/ A new, hopefully more consensual revision of the database support resolution was posted by Dirk. Please review it at: * Declare plainly the current state of PostgreSQL in OpenStack [2] [2] https://review.openstack.org/427880 A new item was proposed for addition on our top-5 wanted list: Glance contributors. Please review and comment at: * Add "Glance Contributors" to top-5 wanted list [3] [3] https://review.openstack.org/474604 We did not have that many comments on John Garbutt's revised resolution on ensuring that decisions are globally inclusive. Please see: * Decisions should be globally inclusive [4] [4] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460946/ The discussion on Queens goals is a bit stalled, as Gerrit is not the ideal tool to select x picks out of n proposals. I think a dedicated IRC meeting could help us sort through the proposals and propose a set (see below). In the mean time, please review: * Discovery alignment, with two options: [5] [6] * Policy and docs in code [7] * Migrate off paste [8] * Continuing Python 3.5+ Support [9] [5] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/ [6] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468437/ [7] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469954/ [8] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117747.html [9] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117746.html A proposal to remove "meritocracy" from the Four opens details was posted by cdent. Please review at: * Remove "meritocracy" from the opens [10] [10] https://review.openstack.org/473510 Finally, a number of tag additions are still being discussed, so you might want to give your opinion on them: * assert:supports-rolling-upgrade for keystone [11] * assert:supports-upgrade to Barbican [12] * stable:follows-policy for Kolla [13] [11] https://review.openstack.org/471427 [12] https://review.openstack.org/472547 [13] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346455/ == Voting in progress == The Top 5 help wanted list (and the "doc owners" initial item) almost have the votes necessary to merge. Please vote at: * Introduce Top 5 help wanted list [14] * Add "Doc owners" to top-5 wanted list [15] [14] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466684/ [15] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469115/ The new "assert:supports-api-interoperability" tag also seems to have broad support and be ready for merging. Please vote at: * Introduce assert:supports-api-interoperability [16] [16] https://review.openstack.org/418010 Finally, Doug's guidelines for managing releases of binary artifacts is also missing a couple of votes to be approved: * Guidelines for managing releases of binary artifacts [17] [17] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469265/ == TC member actions for the coming week(s) == johnthetubaguy to finalize updating "Describe what upstream support means" with a new revision [https://review.openstack.org/440601] flaper87 to update "Drop Technical Committee meetings" with a new revision [https://review.openstack.org/459848] Additionally, we are still looking for a volunteer TC member sponsor/mentor to helm the Gluon team navigate the OpenStack seas as they engage to become an official project. Any volunteer ? == Need for a TC meeting next Tuesday == In order to make progress on the Pike goal selection, I think a dedicated IRC meeting will be necessary. We have a set of valid goals proposed already: we need to decide how many we should have, and which ones. Gerrit is not great to have that ranking discussion, so I think we should meet to come up with a set, and propose it on the mailing-list for discussion. We could use the regular meeting slot on Tuesday, 20:00utc. How does that sound ? -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev