Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot - nominations and voting
On 08/11/2016 10:14 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > > So... I overstepped here and jumped to a conclusion based on an > incorrect understanding of people's sentiments. And there has been some > concern expressed that part of this conversation was private, which is a > valid concern. I'm sorry about all of that. > > Let's start afresh... > > What's been publicly suggested so far (from all ML posts that seem to > contain a suggestion): > > ant - alexis (already chosen by infra) > bee - alexis (already chosen by refstack) > star - heidi > supernova - markus, auggy, bob ball > octopus - chris (already chosen by UX) > > I'd suggest that we actually combine star/supernova into one item to > give the graphic designers some flexibility and creativity. With less > distinctive features than animals, the freedom is probably needed to > make something cool. > > Are there other suggestions? Those items already chosen by other teams > are out of bounds per the FAQ > (http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots). We can leave this open for > the rest of the week, and if there are additional valid options do an > ATC poll next week. There were no additional suggestions over the last week, and the only valid options (not taken by other teams) were the star/supernova that was suggested. So we've got our mascot, thanks folks. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot - nominations and voting
On 08/10/2016 11:46 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 08/10/2016 11:36 AM, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 08/09/2016 07:30 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: >>> TL;DR: If you don’t want a mascot, you don’t have to. But Nova, you’ll >>> be missed. :-) >>> >>> A few notes following up on Matt Riedemann, Clint Byrum, Daniel >>> Berrange’s conversation regarding the Nova mascot… >>> >>> Nova doesn’t have to have a mascot if the majority of the team doesn’t >>> want one. I’m not sure if the Nova community took a vote or if it was >>> more of an informal discussion. We have 53 projects with confirmed >>> logos, and we’re planning some great swag associated with the new >>> project mascots. (I’m surprised the Nova team didn’t immediately request >>> a star nova as their mascot. I’ll give you three guesses what Swift >>> picked...) >> >> Ok, we've been having a bit of a nova core private email thread just to >> figure out where everyone stood. So... I overstepped here and jumped to a conclusion based on an incorrect understanding of people's sentiments. And there has been some concern expressed that part of this conversation was private, which is a valid concern. I'm sorry about all of that. Let's start afresh... What's been publicly suggested so far (from all ML posts that seem to contain a suggestion): ant - alexis (already chosen by infra) bee - alexis (already chosen by refstack) star - heidi supernova - markus, auggy, bob ball octopus - chris (already chosen by UX) I'd suggest that we actually combine star/supernova into one item to give the graphic designers some flexibility and creativity. With less distinctive features than animals, the freedom is probably needed to make something cool. Are there other suggestions? Those items already chosen by other teams are out of bounds per the FAQ (http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots). We can leave this open for the rest of the week, and if there are additional valid options do an ATC poll next week. -Sean -- Sean Dague http://dague.net __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 11:26:21AM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote: > On 8/8/2016 4:10 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: > > Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-08-08 14:35:12 -0500: > > > Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the > > > midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. > > > > > > > Could you maybe summarize the reason for this decision? > > > > Seems like everybody else is taking this moment to look inward and > > think about how they want to be seen. Why wouldn't Nova want to take an > > opportunity to do the same? > > > > idk, I'm open to it I guess if people are really passionate about picking a > mascot, but for the most part when this has come up we've basically had > jokes about horses asses and such. > > Personally this feels like mandatory fun and I'm usually not interested in > stuff like that. It also ends up creating new problems that we then have to spend time on for no obviously clear benefit. eg we're ging to have to collect list of proposed mascots, check them with legal to make sure they don't clash with mascots used by other software companies with squadrons of attack lawyers, then arrange voting on them. Even after all that we'll probably find out later that in some culture the mascot we've chosen has negative connotations associated with it. All this will do nothing to improve life for people who actually deploy and use nova, so its all rather a waste of time IMHO, Regards, Daniel -- |: http://berrange.com -o-http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 8/8/2016 4:10 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-08-08 14:35:12 -0500: Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. Could you maybe summarize the reason for this decision? Seems like everybody else is taking this moment to look inward and think about how they want to be seen. Why wouldn't Nova want to take an opportunity to do the same? __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev idk, I'm open to it I guess if people are really passionate about picking a mascot, but for the most part when this has come up we've basically had jokes about horses asses and such. Personally this feels like mandatory fun and I'm usually not interested in stuff like that. -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
Excerpts from Matt Riedemann's message of 2016-08-08 14:35:12 -0500: > Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the > midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. > Could you maybe summarize the reason for this decision? Seems like everybody else is taking this moment to look inward and think about how they want to be seen. Why wouldn't Nova want to take an opportunity to do the same? __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 8/8/2016 3:36 PM, Chris Friesen wrote: On 08/08/2016 01:35 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. What will the Foundation do if nova doesn't propose a mascot? Leave nova out of the rebranding exercise? Or will they just pick a mascot on their own? Chris __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev I asked the same thing when this was rolled out: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/099065.html "If you don’t select a mascot, don’t worry—we won’t pick one for you. We’ll be happy to create a text-only treatment of just your project name. Our intent is to use the logos across openstack.org, Summit branding, and other marketing materials to promote your project. You’ll also get the image file and you can use it in your presentations or to create more swag if you like. " -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
> What will the Foundation do if nova doesn't propose a mascot? Nothing, I believe. -- Augustina Ragwitz Señora Software Engineer --- Ask me about contributing to OpenStack Nova! https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring --- email: aragwitz+n...@pobox.com irc: auggy __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 08/08/2016 01:35 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. What will the Foundation do if nova doesn't propose a mascot? Leave nova out of the rebranding exercise? Or will they just pick a mascot on their own? Chris __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 8/8/2016 6:07 AM, Alexis Lee wrote: I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal algorithms. My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. lxsli __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev Not to be a major curmudgeon but I think we'd basically decided at the midcycle (actually weeks before) that Nova wasn't doing the mascot thing. -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
I second the supernova concept. I'm just not a huge fan of an animal. Unless it's a Tardigrade. I found some cartoonish things that show a supernova could be graphically stylized: * https://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/Images/objects/snrs/SNR_cartoon2.gif * http://coffeeshopphysics.com/articles/2011-10/12_standing_on_a_crunchy_star/kapow.png * http://usscouts.org/advance/Images/Nova.gif -- Augustina Ragwitz Señora Software Engineer --- Ask me about contributing to OpenStack Nova! https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring --- email: aragwitz+n...@pobox.com irc: auggy __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 2016-08-08 14:26:18 +0100 (+0100), Alexis Lee wrote: > Markus Zoeller said on Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 01:29:49PM +0200: > > On 08.08.2016 13:07, Alexis Lee wrote: > > > I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal > > > algorithms. > > > > > > My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. > > > > AFAIK #infra is going to chose the ant. > > I suppose getting in there quick would be considered unsporting? [...] We already submitted the ranked list from our CIVS poll to Heidi Joy a week ago. That said, I didn't sense much enthusiasm over it (or really over mascot selection in general) so if Nova *really* wants to be an ant there might be room for negotiation. -- Jeremy Stanley __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 08/08/2016 05:07 AM, Alexis Lee wrote: I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal algorithms. My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. How about the octopus, since nova has tentacles reaching into many parts of the system... Chris __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
Markus Zoeller said on Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 01:29:49PM +0200: > On 08.08.2016 13:07, Alexis Lee wrote: > > I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal > > algorithms. > > > > My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. > > AFAIK #infra is going to chose the ant. I suppose getting in there quick would be considered unsporting? At least this illustrates why we should hurry up. > I propose the "supernova": > https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova#/media/File:SN1994D.jpg > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova#/media/File:GKPersei-MiniSuperNova-20150316.jpg IMHO it fails the "distinct in stylized cartoon illustrations" criterion, it just looks like a star or explosion. The gorilla is taken but we could have a monkey. I like the Golden Lion Tamarin. Monkeys are vaguely smart and its ruff is not unreminiscent of a supernova, or at least a firework explosion. Alternatively, we could have a mountain*. Massively scalable. Very traditional symbol, easy to draw. Other ideas, mostly with issues - adder (CPU); snowshoe hare, star-nosed mole, lynx (Nova Scotia); dolphin, open brain coral (brain); wellspring, mitosis (novelty); hummingbird, tiger (generic); sheepdog (herding). Alexis (lxsli) * It's tempting to suggest a volcano (mountain that's liable to explode taking out everyone in a several-mile radius). -- Nova developer, Hewlett-Packard Limited. Registered Office: Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire RG12 1HN. Registered Number: 00690597 England VAT number: GB 314 1496 79 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
On 08.08.2016 13:07, Alexis Lee wrote: > I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal > algorithms. > > My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. > > > lxsli > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > AFAIK #infra is going to chose the ant. I propose the "supernova": https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova#/media/File:SN1994D.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova#/media/File:GKPersei-MiniSuperNova-20150316.jpg -- Regards, Markus Zoeller (markus_z) __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [nova] Nova mascot
I propose the ant, known for discovering probabilistic graph traversal algorithms. My other thought, the bee, has already been taken by refstack. lxsli __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
