Re: [openstack-dev] Can sqlalchemy-migrate-core just be oslo.db core?

2014-10-10 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
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On 09/10/14 23:44, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Matt Riedemann
 mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
 
 The sqlalchemy-migrate project is basically maintenance mode and
 the core team [1] is kind of a weird mix of people - all great
 people I'm sure, but I think it's more a team of people that
 stepped up when OpenStack took over the project and said they'd
 babysit it but it's pretty idle.
 
 Given we have oslo.db now, and sqlalchemy-migrate is all DB
 goodies, can we just have the oslo.db core team [2] own
 sqlalchemy-migrate now too?
 
 Here are the sqlalchemy-migrate open reviews:
 
 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z


 
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members
 [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/331,members
 
 If the oslo.db team wants to participate, that’s obviously fine,
 but I don’t think we want to just add everyone in bulk. AIUI, the
 team’s goal is to get the migration stuff in oslo.db working with
 alembic so we can stop using sqlalchemy-migrate.

Till that time, we're left with the library used by multiple projects.
I feel it's hard to get any review in meaningful time for the library,
so if moving the library under the oslo.db tent will help it move, I'm
both hands for that.

/Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] Can sqlalchemy-migrate-core just be oslo.db core?

2014-10-10 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:

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 On 09/10/14 23:44, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Matt Riedemann
  mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
 
  The sqlalchemy-migrate project is basically maintenance mode and
  the core team [1] is kind of a weird mix of people - all great
  people I'm sure, but I think it's more a team of people that
  stepped up when OpenStack took over the project and said they'd
  babysit it but it's pretty idle.
 
  Given we have oslo.db now, and sqlalchemy-migrate is all DB
  goodies, can we just have the oslo.db core team [2] own
  sqlalchemy-migrate now too?
 
  Here are the sqlalchemy-migrate open reviews:
 
  https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z
 
 
 
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members
  [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/331,members
 
  If the oslo.db team wants to participate, that’s obviously fine,
  but I don’t think we want to just add everyone in bulk. AIUI, the
  team’s goal is to get the migration stuff in oslo.db working with
  alembic so we can stop using sqlalchemy-migrate.
 
 Till that time, we're left with the library used by multiple projects.
 I feel it's hard to get any review in meaningful time for the library,
 so if moving the library under the oslo.db tent will help it move, I'm
 both hands for that.

It is not generally our community’s practice to assign core responsibility for 
a code base to anyone, especially without asking. Invite anyone to join the 
reviewer team, but please do not assume that just because there is a team 
working on database related code they are also interested in working on this 
code.

Doug

 
 /Ihar
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] Can sqlalchemy-migrate-core just be oslo.db core?

2014-10-10 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/10/2014 06:10 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
 On 09/10/14 23:44, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Matt Riedemann
 mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:
 
 The sqlalchemy-migrate project is basically maintenance mode and
 the core team [1] is kind of a weird mix of people - all great
 people I'm sure, but I think it's more a team of people that
 stepped up when OpenStack took over the project and said they'd
 babysit it but it's pretty idle.

 Given we have oslo.db now, and sqlalchemy-migrate is all DB
 goodies, can we just have the oslo.db core team [2] own
 sqlalchemy-migrate now too?

 Here are the sqlalchemy-migrate open reviews:

 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z



 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members
 [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/331,members
 
 If the oslo.db team wants to participate, that’s obviously fine,
 but I don’t think we want to just add everyone in bulk. AIUI, the
 team’s goal is to get the migration stuff in oslo.db working with
 alembic so we can stop using sqlalchemy-migrate.
 
 Till that time, we're left with the library used by multiple projects.
 I feel it's hard to get any review in meaningful time for the library,
 so if moving the library under the oslo.db tent will help it move, I'm
 both hands for that.
 
 /Ihar

I'm not sure adding core reviewers would help, but I agree we have a
maintenance issue with sqlalchemy-migrate. I've seen useful patches
staging without core reviewer answers. I'm myself a core there, but I
don't think I have the needed level to do good reviews.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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Re: [openstack-dev] Can sqlalchemy-migrate-core just be oslo.db core?

2014-10-09 Thread Matt Riedemann



On 10/9/2014 3:30 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:

The sqlalchemy-migrate project is basically maintenance mode and the
core team [1] is kind of a weird mix of people - all great people I'm
sure, but I think it's more a team of people that stepped up when
OpenStack took over the project and said they'd babysit it but it's
pretty idle.

Given we have oslo.db now, and sqlalchemy-migrate is all DB goodies, can
we just have the oslo.db core team [2] own sqlalchemy-migrate now too?

Here are the sqlalchemy-migrate open reviews:

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z


[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members
[2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/331,members



If no one wants this, I'll nominate myself for the sqlalchemy-migrate 
core team to try and keep the lights on.


Here's my code:

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:mrie...@us.ibm.com+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z

And reviews:

https://review.openstack.org/#/q/reviewer:mrie...@us.ibm.com+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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Re: [openstack-dev] Can sqlalchemy-migrate-core just be oslo.db core?

2014-10-09 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Oct 9, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

 The sqlalchemy-migrate project is basically maintenance mode and the core 
 team [1] is kind of a weird mix of people - all great people I'm sure, but I 
 think it's more a team of people that stepped up when OpenStack took over the 
 project and said they'd babysit it but it's pretty idle.
 
 Given we have oslo.db now, and sqlalchemy-migrate is all DB goodies, can we 
 just have the oslo.db core team [2] own sqlalchemy-migrate now too?
 
 Here are the sqlalchemy-migrate open reviews:
 
 https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate,n,z
 
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/186,members
 [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/331,members

If the oslo.db team wants to participate, that’s obviously fine, but I don’t 
think we want to just add everyone in bulk. AIUI, the team’s goal is to get the 
migration stuff in oslo.db working with alembic so we can stop using 
sqlalchemy-migrate.

Doug


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