Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-16 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2014, 15:51:43 schrieb Geoff Galitz:
 FWIW, openvas as a wrapper around other established tools/projects is half
 the point of openvas (to me anyways).  It would be great if the project
 somehow identifies what needs to be done to get these to work again.
 There's no real reason the appropriate scripts/configs cannot be edited or
 added..  just lack of develpment resources.

While I think it is very valuable to have various scan tools managed via 
OpenVAS 
I think it is the wrong appoach to wrap up other tools within a NASL NVT.
Which is something that OpenVAS inherited.
This approach causes several headaches.

This topic was discussed at the last OpenVAS developer conferences and meanwhile
we have started a prototype for the new OSP concept (OpenVAS Scanner Protocol).
w3af serves as a reference for this. We are not yet where we want to be.
But OpenVAS-8 will likely offer something usable.

Please be patient with our limited development resources. We have a couple
of open developer positions at Greenbone btw ;-)
I also can offer to sponsor any OSP wrapper development for the various
other scan tools. You need to be familiar with trunk and Python for this.

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-02 Thread Jack Harvey
I was just wondering about the version of nmap which I should use…6.x 
(delivered via repo) or 5.51.  And one more question…
I apologize in advance…If I clone a config (full very deep ultimate), edit that 
 clone’s Web application abuses and uncheck wapiti, dirb and arachni,
What happens when there are NVT updates?  Will they get used (where 
appropriate) by the cloned config?  Is that the appropriate
place to permanently disable those 3 components?

Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
Synnex Corporation
864-349-4939

From: Brandon Perry [mailto:bperry.volat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 10:53 AM
To: Geoff Galitz
Cc: Jack Harvey; openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for OpenVAS 
since these are generally applicable to any web server.

Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that I 
wouldn't want to give people using OpenVAS the idea that running arachni 
through OpenVAS is as good as running it independently. Both are very powerful 
(particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a different purpose 
than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS in my mind is about finding and remediating known 
vulnerabilities such as missing patches and a /backup folder on a web server.

Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, not the 
patch management and insecure configuration discovery.

Just my 2c.


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Geoff Galitz 
ge...@galitz.orgmailto:ge...@galitz.org wrote:

FWIW, openvas as a wrapper around other established tools/projects is half
the point of openvas (to me anyways).  It would be great if the project
somehow identifies what needs to be done to get these to work again.
There's no real reason the appropriate scripts/configs cannot be edited or
added..  just lack of develpment resources.

It's not my intention to whine about technical debt and inefficiencies...
but it's something to consider as the project continues to gain momentum
and moves forward.

We've stopped using openvas on some projects as a result of these
not-really-supported and mostly broken plugins that cause more trouble
than they're worth.

-G



 I have (at least) one last question regarding components.  The version of
 nmap which I end up with after the install is 6.47.  It seems I had
 recently encountered something
 Indicating nmap (somewhere around) 5.51 as the preferred version.  Could
 someone please elaborate on the appropriate version of nmap?
 Thanks in advance for your help!

 Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
 Synnex Corporation
 864-349-4939tel:864-349-4939

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 Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.


 Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds
 want
 to know...

 OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan
 configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)

 I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate
 config:

 Vulnerability Detection Result:
 arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version
 of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
 In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS

 I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:

 I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a
 third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.

 It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I
 remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions
 (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information)
 so you're actually better off being unable to use it.

 Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

 * openvas should not ship it for years
 * atomic should not add it to deps for years

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Jack Harvey
I have (at least) one last question regarding components.  The version of nmap 
which I end up with after the install is 6.47.  It seems I had recently 
encountered something
Indicating nmap (somewhere around) 5.51 as the preferred version.  Could 
someone please elaborate on the appropriate version of nmap?
Thanks in advance for your help! 

Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
Synnex Corporation
864-349-4939

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Reindl Harald
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:45 PM
To: openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.


Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds want 
 to know...
 
 OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan 
 configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)
 
 I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate 
 config:
 
 Vulnerability Detection Result:
 arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version 
 of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
 In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
 I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
 I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a 
 third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.
 
 It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I 
 remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions 
 (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information) so 
 you're actually better off being unable to use it.
 
 Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

* openvas should not ship it for years
* atomic should not add it to deps for years

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Brandon Perry
I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for
OpenVAS since these are generally applicable to any web server.

Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that I
wouldn't want to give people using OpenVAS the idea that running arachni
through OpenVAS is as good as running it independently. Both are very
powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a
different purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS in my mind is about finding
and remediating known vulnerabilities such as missing patches and a /backup
folder on a web server.

Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, not
the patch management and insecure configuration discovery.

Just my 2c.


On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Geoff Galitz ge...@galitz.org wrote:


 FWIW, openvas as a wrapper around other established tools/projects is half
 the point of openvas (to me anyways).  It would be great if the project
 somehow identifies what needs to be done to get these to work again.
 There's no real reason the appropriate scripts/configs cannot be edited or
 added..  just lack of develpment resources.

 It's not my intention to whine about technical debt and inefficiencies...
 but it's something to consider as the project continues to gain momentum
 and moves forward.

 We've stopped using openvas on some projects as a result of these
 not-really-supported and mostly broken plugins that cause more trouble
 than they're worth.

 -G



  I have (at least) one last question regarding components.  The version of
  nmap which I end up with after the install is 6.47.  It seems I had
  recently encountered something
  Indicating nmap (somewhere around) 5.51 as the preferred version.  Could
  someone please elaborate on the appropriate version of nmap?
  Thanks in advance for your help!
 
  Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
  Synnex Corporation
  864-349-4939
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Openvas-discuss [mailto:
 openvas-discuss-boun...@wald.intevation.org]
  On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
  Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:45 PM
  To: openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
  Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.
 
 
  Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
  I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds
  want
  to know...
 
  OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan
  configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)
 
  I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate
  config:
 
  Vulnerability Detection Result:
  arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version
  of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
  In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
  I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
  I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a
  third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.
 
  It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I
  remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions
  (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information)
  so you're actually better off being unable to use it.
 
  Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?
 
  * openvas should not ship it for years
  * atomic should not add it to deps for years
 
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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Brandon Perry
I will also admit however that I do not use OpenVAS as a pen-tester, as
others might. My use cases could obviously differ from those of another
OpenVAS user. :)

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Brandon Perry bperry.volat...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for
 OpenVAS since these are generally applicable to any web server.

 Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that I
 wouldn't want to give people using OpenVAS the idea that running arachni
 through OpenVAS is as good as running it independently. Both are very
 powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a
 different purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS in my mind is about finding
 and remediating known vulnerabilities such as missing patches and a /backup
 folder on a web server.

 Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, not
 the patch management and insecure configuration discovery.

 Just my 2c.


 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Geoff Galitz ge...@galitz.org wrote:


 FWIW, openvas as a wrapper around other established tools/projects is half
 the point of openvas (to me anyways).  It would be great if the project
 somehow identifies what needs to be done to get these to work again.
 There's no real reason the appropriate scripts/configs cannot be edited or
 added..  just lack of develpment resources.

 It's not my intention to whine about technical debt and inefficiencies...
 but it's something to consider as the project continues to gain momentum
 and moves forward.

 We've stopped using openvas on some projects as a result of these
 not-really-supported and mostly broken plugins that cause more trouble
 than they're worth.

 -G



  I have (at least) one last question regarding components.  The version
 of
  nmap which I end up with after the install is 6.47.  It seems I had
  recently encountered something
  Indicating nmap (somewhere around) 5.51 as the preferred version.  Could
  someone please elaborate on the appropriate version of nmap?
  Thanks in advance for your help!
 
  Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
  Synnex Corporation
  864-349-4939
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Openvas-discuss [mailto:
 openvas-discuss-boun...@wald.intevation.org]
  On Behalf Of Reindl Harald
  Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:45 PM
  To: openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
  Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.
 
 
  Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
  I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds
  want
  to know...
 
  OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan
  configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)
 
  I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate
  config:
 
  Vulnerability Detection Result:
  arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version
  of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
  In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
  I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
  I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a
  third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.
 
  It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I
  remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions
  (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information)
  so you're actually better off being unable to use it.
 
  Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?
 
  * openvas should not ship it for years
  * atomic should not add it to deps for years
 
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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 01.10.2014 um 16:52 schrieb Brandon Perry:
 I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for OpenVAS 
 since these are generally applicable
 to any web server.
 
 Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that I 
 wouldn't want to give people using
 OpenVAS the idea that running arachni through OpenVAS is as good as running 
 it independently. Both are very
 powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a different 
 purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS
 in my mind is about finding and remediating known vulnerabilities such as 
 missing patches and a /backup folder on a
 web server.
 
 Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, not 
 the patch management and insecure
 configuration discovery

no - finding SQL injections and XSS is *by definition* the purpose of a 
security scan



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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 01.10.2014 um 17:21 schrieb Reindl Harald:
 Am 01.10.2014 um 16:52 schrieb Brandon Perry:
 I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for OpenVAS 
 since these are generally applicable
 to any web server.

 Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that I 
 wouldn't want to give people using
 OpenVAS the idea that running arachni through OpenVAS is as good as running 
 it independently. Both are very
 powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a 
 different purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS
 in my mind is about finding and remediating known vulnerabilities such as 
 missing patches and a /backup folder on a
 web server.

 Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, not 
 the patch management and insecure
 configuration discovery
 
 no - finding SQL injections and XSS is *by definition* the purpose of a 
 security scan

but for that OpenVAS would need to learn basics like
send the host-header correct to scan a specific vhost

maybe with v7 that works now, in the past you always
scanned the apache default vhost



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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-10-01 Thread Brandon Perry
If you want to perform possibly destructive web audit scans on production
systems, that is fine.


I think you are taking what I said and making an overly-general statement
about any kind of security scanning.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
wrote:



 Am 01.10.2014 um 16:52 schrieb Brandon Perry:
  I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for
 OpenVAS since these are generally applicable
  to any web server.
 
  Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations that
 I wouldn't want to give people using
  OpenVAS the idea that running arachni through OpenVAS is as good as
 running it independently. Both are very
  powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a
 different purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS
  in my mind is about finding and remediating known vulnerabilities such
 as missing patches and a /backup folder on a
  web server.
 
  Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle,
 not the patch management and insecure
  configuration discovery

 no - finding SQL injections and XSS is *by definition* the purpose of a
 security scan


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2014-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 01.10.2014 um 17:40 schrieb Brandon Perry:
 If you want to perform possibly destructive web audit scans on production 
 systems, that is fine.

surely because better i do at a scheduled point in time
and with a recent backup or some bad guy unasked

for what purpose do i need a security scan to apply updates
which are already available - my OS can that alone

frankly if you really fear that a security audit destructs
your data then ask yourself if you should not shutdown the
machine because you already suspect it to be vulnerable

there where i work customers hire security specialists
for penetration testing and you have to agree with that
or lose the customer

if they find something critical like SQL injections, XSS
or bad SSL configurations you have 24 hours to fix it or
shutdown the website without any but or if - the purpose
of a own security scan is to find things *before* they
do and avoid the complaints and stress from outside

 I think you are taking what I said and making an overly-general statement 
 about any kind of security scanning.
 
 On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net 
 mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 
 
 
 Am 01.10.2014 um 16:52 schrieb Brandon Perry:
  I agree that utilities like dirb and nikto are useful as plugins for 
 OpenVAS since these are generally applicable
  to any web server.
 
  Arachni and wapiti require such application specific configurations 
 that I wouldn't want to give people using
  OpenVAS the idea that running arachni through OpenVAS is as good as 
 running it independently. Both are very
  powerful (particularly arachni), but I do think they almost serve a 
 different purpose than OpenVAS in that OpenVAS
  in my mind is about finding and remediating known vulnerabilities such 
 as missing patches and a /backup folder on a
  web server.
 
  Finding SQL injections and XSS should be in the development lifecycle, 
 not the patch management and insecure
  configuration discovery
 
 no - finding SQL injections and XSS is *by definition* the purpose of a 
 security scan



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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-09-30 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 I realize this has been asked…and asked…and…but enquiring minds want to know…
 
 OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan configs 
 components arachni and wapiti (and of
 course others)
 
 I am getting this when I run a scan using “Full and very deep ultimate” 
 config:
 
 Vulnerability Detection Result:
 arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that
 wrong version of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
 In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
 I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
 I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a third-party 
 and has been incompatible with Arachni
 for a long time.
 
 It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I 
 remember it used to parse the text report
 using regular expressions (which is a really unreliable way to extract the 
 necessary information) so you're
 actually better off being unable to use it.
 
 Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

* openvas should not ship it for years
* atomic should not add it to deps for years



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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-09-30 Thread Jack Harvey
Thanks!  I'll disable arachni.  What about the wapiti-related messages?  

Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
Synnex Corporation
864-349-4939

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:45 PM
To: openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.


Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds want 
 to know...
 
 OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan 
 configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)
 
 I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate 
 config:
 
 Vulnerability Detection Result:
 arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version 
 of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
 In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
 I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
 I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a 
 third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.
 
 It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I 
 remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions 
 (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information) so 
 you're actually better off being unable to use it.
 
 Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

* openvas should not ship it for years
* atomic should not add it to deps for years

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-09-30 Thread Jack Harvey
So I just clone the desired config, edit and UN-select both wapiti and arachni. 
 Are there any others?  I ask because previously dirb and nikto gave similar 
“can’t be found, etc.’ messages.
I believe this is not currently the case with them.

Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
Synnex Corporation
864-349-4939

From: Brandon Perry [mailto:bperry.volat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59 PM
To: Jack Harvey
Cc: Reindl Harald; openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

Arachni and wapiti I would highly recommend running separately from OpenVAS. 
These tools can be highly customized to be as effective as possible for web 
applications, and any generic check that runs them will certainly not be the 
optimal settings for your web applications.

In fact, archni just went through a major rewrite, most of the command line 
arguments have been changed. I would not be surprised if the arachni check were 
broken by this latest rewrite.

These should be separate touch points in your environment scanning and not be 
embedded in a solution like OpenVAS.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jack Harvey 
ja...@synnex.commailto:ja...@synnex.com wrote:
Thanks!  I'll disable arachni.  What about the wapiti-related messages?

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Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds want
 to know...

 OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan
 configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)

 I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate 
 config:

 Vulnerability Detection Result:
 arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version
 of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
 In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS

 I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:

 I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a
 third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.

 It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I
 remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions
 (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information) so 
 you're actually better off being unable to use it.

 Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

* openvas should not ship it for years
* atomic should not add it to deps for years

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-09-30 Thread Brandon Perry
Not sure about those at all.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Jack Harvey ja...@synnex.com wrote:

  So I just clone the desired config, edit and UN-select both wapiti and
 arachni.  Are there any others?  I ask because previously dirb and nikto
 gave similar “can’t be found, etc.’ messages.

 I believe this is not currently the case with them.



 Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP

 Synnex Corporation

 864-349-4939



 *From:* Brandon Perry [mailto:bperry.volat...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:59 PM
 *To:* Jack Harvey
 *Cc:* Reindl Harald; openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org

 *Subject:* Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.



 Arachni and wapiti I would highly recommend running separately from
 OpenVAS. These tools can be highly customized to be as effective as
 possible for web applications, and any generic check that runs them will
 certainly not be the optimal settings for your web applications.



 In fact, archni just went through a major rewrite, most of the command
 line arguments have been changed. I would not be surprised if the arachni
 check were broken by this latest rewrite.



 These should be separate touch points in your environment scanning and not
 be embedded in a solution like OpenVAS.



 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jack Harvey ja...@synnex.com wrote:

 Thanks!  I'll disable arachni.  What about the wapiti-related messages?

 Jack Harvey  RHCE CISSP
 Synnex Corporation
 864-349-4939

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 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 3:45 PM
 To: openvas-discuss@wald.intevation.org
 Subject: Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.


 Am 30.09.2014 um 21:39 schrieb Jack Harvey:
  I realize this has been asked...and asked...and...but enquiring minds
 want
  to know...
 
  OpenVAS v7 install via atomic repo  includes in the pre-built scan
  configs components arachni and wapiti (and of course others)
 
  I am getting this when I run a scan using Full and very deep ultimate
 config:
 
  Vulnerability Detection Result:
  arachni report filename is empty. that could mean that wrong version
  of arachni is used or tmp dir is not accessible.
  In short: check installation of arachni and OpenVAS
 
  I found this which was posted 2/22/2013 by Tasos Laskos:
 
  I'm sorry, that OpenVAS plugin was written a long time ago by a
  third-party and has been incompatible with Arachni for a long time.
 
  It's not supported by the Arachni project nor OpenVAS and from what I
  remember it used to parse the text report using regular expressions
  (which is a really unreliable way to extract the necessary information)
 so you're actually better off being unable to use it.
 
  Should I disable the arachni NASL wrapper?

 * openvas should not ship it for years
 * atomic should not add it to deps for years

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Re: [Openvas-discuss] arachni, etc.

2014-09-30 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 30.09.2014 um 22:06 schrieb Jack Harvey:
 So I just clone the desired config, edit and UN-select both wapiti and 
 arachni.  Are there any others?  I ask
 because previously dirb and nikto gave similar “can’t be found, etc.’ 
 messages.
 
 I believe this is not currently the case with them

disable dirb - this crap is started, running for hours long after
any scan has finished and reports are generated - so it creates
only load and the only thing you can analyze are your webservers
logs - no idea why such crap behave that way is not just disabled
with a NVT sync



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