Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-15 Thread John Crispin



And in the interest of running *my* own mouth, I'm stoked as hell -- 
LOVE that it will have mikroBUS! Thanks to John and everyone working 
on this!


My only request is that any unused gpios that don't make it to 
mikroBUS find their way to a (possibly unpopulated) header some where 
for the sake of hackability. 1mm pitch is fine. I've had more than one 
occasion where I wanted to add something and didn't have the bus or 
I/O lines and then discovered that the MCU did, but they were all N/C. 
Hackability is what makes the FOSS / open hardware world so awesome.\!


Daniel

yeah we will add all remaining GPIO togehter with GND and 3,3V on a 
2.54mm header.


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Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-15 Thread Daniel Santos

On 1/15/24 06:56, Paul D wrote:




A kickstarter is a good way to forecast demand.

You've captured the imagination of the geek community.



Not aware of peripheral issues or complexities in doing a kickstarter, 
though I agree with forecasting demand. "Geeks" are good at commenting 
on stuff, and intellectualizing a new board: let's see how many put 
their money where their mouth is.


And in the interest of running *my* own mouth, I'm stoked as hell -- 
LOVE that it will have mikroBUS! Thanks to John and everyone working on 
this!


My only request is that any unused gpios that don't make it to mikroBUS 
find their way to a (possibly unpopulated) header some where for the 
sake of hackability. 1mm pitch is fine. I've had more than one occasion 
where I wanted to add something and didn't have the bus or I/O lines and 
then discovered that the MCU did, but they were all N/C. Hackability is 
what makes the FOSS / open hardware world so awesome.\!


Daniel

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Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-15 Thread Daniel Santos

On 1/10/24 08:18, Forest Crossman wrote:

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 4:52 AM John Crispin  wrote:
---SNIP---

* Why is there no USB 3.x host port on the device?
- the USB 3.x and PCIe buses are shared in the selected SoC silicon,
hence only a single High-Speed USB port is available

Perhaps you've already considered this, but it may be possible to
route the shared PCIe/USB 3 traces to both an M.2 slot and a USB 3
host port using a high-speed dual-channel differential 1:2/2:1
switch/mux. It wouldn't enable both interfaces to be used at the same
time, but it would make it possible to select which interface is
enabled using a GPIO pin. Then U-boot could either automatically
enable one port or the other depending on what devices it detects
(e.g., enable PCIe and disable USB 3 if a PCIe device is connected,
otherwise enable USB 3 and disable PCIe), or it could be statically
configurable via a U-boot environment variable.

 From some quick searching, the switches/muxes that would enable this
cost less than $1 each in qty. 1000. For a <$100 product I understand that
may be too much of an increase to the BoM cost and PCB complexity, but
I think users would really appreciate being able to choose between
being able to add an M.2 SSD, WiFi card, or SATA controller and being
able to plug in a USB 3.x 2.5 GbE adapter, SSD/flash drive, WiFi
dongle, or 5G modem.

All the best,
Forest



I'm always a fan of a single PCB design that *can* be built in different 
configurations. So would suggest a design where differential mux can be 
left unpopulated to create a product w/o USB 3 support. But of course, 
this doesn't overcome EMI concerns Daniel Golle mentioned.


Daniel

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Re: OpenWrt One - celebrating 20 years of OpenWrt

2024-01-15 Thread Paul D





A kickstarter is a good way to forecast demand.

You've captured the imagination of the geek community.



Not aware of peripheral issues or complexities in doing a kickstarter, 
though I agree with forecasting demand. "Geeks" are good at commenting 
on stuff, and intellectualizing a new board: let's see how many put 
their money where their mouth is.


I, for one, think the new board's a great idea, although I'm still happy 
with my Archer. I do feel that an upgrade in the next 12mo may become 
necessary, however.


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