Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] GitHub and -devel; differentiating between voting committers and random community comments
On 2018-09-14 11:18 a.m., Karl Palsson wrote: "Daniel F. Dickinson" wrote: Hi, This isn't my first preference, but I think this is becoming a bit of a problem, especially for people not all that familiar with who's who in OpenWrt. I've noticed that community (vs. voting committers) often jump in with (presumably well-meant) advice that might not actually match what voting committers want (e.g. on a patch or for policy), and for those not familiar with emails and names of the voting OpenWrt team this can lead to changing patches or PR's in ways that are counter-productive to actually getting merged. I'm not a voting member myself, so this isn't necessarily going to help me get heard, but I'd also hate for someone take me as canonical advice in contrast to a voting committer. I know some community members can be quite helpful, but others tend to sounding authoritative while not being an 'official' openwrt team member, which leads to mis-perception (in my view) about what the project would like to see. The comments in github show this for you already: I mostly read the github notifications on email, which doesn't include the info. Guess that's something I'll have to submit to GitHub to see about getting changed. if it shows "Contributor" it's just "someone" THey might be a regular contributor, but they're not a committer. if it shows "Member" they have commit rights. What people choose to do with that information is up to them though really. Of course, but I think that, especially newbies, tend to think that anyone who speaks with an "authoritative voice" is actually representing the project and not their own opinion. As much as I want my voice and opinion heard and taken into consideration, I wouldn't intentionally represent myself as the voice of the project, and find it frustrating when others, sometimes names I've never seen before on the list, write (intentionally or not) as if it were up to them, and actually seen folks frustrated by altering commits to fit such an answer, while, once a voting committers weighs in, is actually disadvantageous to getting merged. Regards, Daniel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] GitHub and -devel; differentiating between voting committers and random community comments
"Daniel F. Dickinson" wrote: > Hi, > > This isn't my first preference, but I think this is becoming a > bit of a problem, especially for people not all that familiar > with who's who in OpenWrt. > > I've noticed that community (vs. voting committers) often jump > in with (presumably well-meant) advice that might not actually > match what voting committers want (e.g. on a patch or for > policy), and for those not familiar with emails and names of > the voting OpenWrt team this can lead to changing patches or > PR's in ways that are counter-productive to actually getting > merged. > > I'm not a voting member myself, so this isn't necessarily going > to help me get heard, but I'd also hate for someone take me as > canonical advice in contrast to a voting committer. I know some > community members can be quite helpful, but others tend to > sounding authoritative while not being an 'official' openwrt > team member, which leads to mis-perception (in my view) about > what the project would like to see. The comments in github show this for you already: if it shows "Contributor" it's just "someone" THey might be a regular contributor, but they're not a committer. if it shows "Member" they have commit rights. What people choose to do with that information is up to them though really. Cheers, Karl P signature.html Description: OpenPGP Digital Signature ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
[OpenWrt-Devel] GitHub and -devel; differentiating between voting committers and random community comments
Hi, This isn't my first preference, but I think this is becoming a bit of a problem, especially for people not all that familiar with who's who in OpenWrt. I've noticed that community (vs. voting committers) often jump in with (presumably well-meant) advice that might not actually match what voting committers want (e.g. on a patch or for policy), and for those not familiar with emails and names of the voting OpenWrt team this can lead to changing patches or PR's in ways that are counter-productive to actually getting merged. I'm not a voting member myself, so this isn't necessarily going to help me get heard, but I'd also hate for someone take me as canonical advice in contrast to a voting committer. I know some community members can be quite helpful, but others tend to sounding authoritative while not being an 'official' openwrt team member, which leads to mis-perception (in my view) about what the project would like to see. Regards, Daniel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel