Re: Cookie Mismatch when using Gmail.

2011-01-05 Thread M
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Matthew pump...@cotse.net wrote:

  Hello,

 Here is what happens:

 I login to Gmail as normal.  I go to Settings / Accounts and Import /
 Change Account Settings - Google Account Settings.  When I click on that
 link the URL changes to https://www.google.com/accounts/CookieMismatch and
 the screen shows.

 We've detected a problem with your cookie settings.

  Enable cookies
  Make sure your cookies are enabled. To enable cookies, follow these
 browser-specific 
 instructionshttp://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=35851hl=en.


  Clear cache and cookies
  If you have cookies enabled but are still having trouble, clear your
 browser's cache and 
 cookieshttp://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=32050.


  Adjust your privacy settings
  If clearing your cache and cookies doesn't resolve the problem, try
 adjusting your browser's privacy settings. If your settings are on high,
 manually add *www.google.com* to your list of allowed sites. Learn 
 morehttp://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=39612


I get this message wheneve i login to google. After the message appears, i
just manually type in gmail.com and then most of the time it logs in. When
all else fails, i manually delete all google cookies, and then it works
fine.


Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread M

 Yes, but I have a nice collection of SIM cards from various countries...
 Every time I travel (twice a month at least) I bring back some SIM cards for
 this kind of work...


Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for us
here in the group!


Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew



On 05/01/11 09:04, M wrote:


Yes, but I have a nice collection of SIM cards from various
countries... Every time I travel (twice a month at least) I bring
back some SIM cards for this kind of work...




I am under the impression that in most countries you have to show ID which 
is copied to obtain a SIM?  This was my experience in Spain for example.


Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for us 
here in the group!


Re: Cookie Mismatch when using Gmail.

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew

 More information appended at the end.


I login to Gmail as normal.  I go to Settings / Accounts and Import /
Change Account Settings - Google Account Settings.  When I click on
that link the URL changes to
https://www.google.com/accounts/CookieMismatch and the screen shows.

We've detected a problem with your cookie settings.

Enable cookies
Make sure your cookies are enabled. To enable cookies, follow these
browser-specific instructions
http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=35851hl=en.


Clear cache and cookies
If you have cookies enabled but are still having trouble, clear your
browser's cache and cookies
http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=32050.


Adjust your privacy settings
If clearing your cache and cookies doesn't resolve the problem, try
adjusting your browser's privacy settings. If your settings are on
high, manually add *www.google.com http://www.google.com* to your
list of allowed sites. Learn more
http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=39612



To add some more information:

Vidalia + NoScript does not present any cookie issues.  I can access 
Account Settings.  The problem is when TorButton is used.


I then used TorButton's preferences to remove all the protections by 
unticking as much as possible (effectively making TorButton worthless).  I 
still get the same error!


I rebooted and cleaned the cache and cookies and still I cannot access the 
Account Settings aspect of Gmail.  It is as if TorButton per se is the 
issue irrespective of any security settings it uses.


In my Firefox cookie section I have cookies for mail.google.com that read: 
GX, GXSP, gmailchat, TZ, GMAIL_AT, and S.


Yet Gmail still claims that cookies are not installed.

I did an about:cache and then searched for torbutton.  There were about 100 
entries which include:


extensions.torbutton.regen_google_cookies;false
extensions.torbutton.reset_google_cookies;false
extensions.torbutton.xfer_google_cookies;true

I did change regen_google cookies to true but this did not change 
anything.  Perhaps one needs to change certain entries in about:config to 
affect TorButton's interactions with Gmail?


Any ideas from TorButton developers?  Thanks.



Re: Tor in German media (27c3)

2011-01-05 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 05:55:09PM +0100, Moritz Bartl wrote:

 Most people run as many exit nodes as they want without even having a  
 lawyer in the first place. It is not an illegal service at all.

 For the future, it might be a good idea to form a lose network of  
 lawyers/funds that openly promise legal help to ANY Tor node operator.  
 In Germany, both Chaos Computer Club and German Privacy Foundation  
 promise to fight for the right of Tor node operators in case something  
 big hits them. In the US, EFF made a similar promise.

That is good to know. Unfortunately, finding an exit-sympathetic
hoster will be more of a problem. Hetzner e.g. seems to tolerate
middlemen but not exits, as they're abuse-driven.

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Re: Tor in German media (27c3)

2011-01-05 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
Eugen Leitl wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 05:55:09PM +0100, Moritz Bartl wrote:
 
 Most people run as many exit nodes as they want without even having a  
 lawyer in the first place. It is not an illegal service at all.

 For the future, it might be a good idea to form a lose network of  
 lawyers/funds that openly promise legal help to ANY Tor node operator.  
 In Germany, both Chaos Computer Club and German Privacy Foundation  
 promise to fight for the right of Tor node operators in case something  
 big hits them. In the US, EFF made a similar promise.
 
 That is good to know. Unfortunately, finding an exit-sympathetic
 hoster will be more of a problem. Hetzner e.g. seems to tolerate
 middlemen but not exits, as they're abuse-driven.
 


I operate 2 nodes of the Tor both in Germany.
Fistly, I set up one of them, the OrionTorNode as an exit, but I had
some problems with my vds provider and turn it in the middlemen regim.
After that I rented a new vds from a vds provider listing in the Tor
blog as frendly to the Tor and set up on it an exit node OrionTorNode1
that works fine to that days.
My provider received an abuse in late of December concerning using my
tor-exit for torrenting but after I informed them that I reconfigured my
/etc/tor/torrc they was fully satisfied and did not requre me stop my
exit-node such their colleaques - staff of the vds provider of my first
node.
But it will be very good to set up an exit node without any restrictions
of exit policy.
If anyone could recommend me an offshore vds provider
which is rigid to any abuses and which prices are not very expensive
I would be thankful.
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
M wrote:
 Yes, but I have a nice collection of SIM cards from various countries...
 Every time I travel (twice a month at least) I bring back some SIM cards for
 this kind of work...

 
 Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for us
 here in the group!
 


It will be fine :)
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread force44
 I am under the impression that in most countries you have to show ID
 which is copied to obtain a SIM?  This was my experience in Spain for
 example. 

Yes in Western Europe it is so. But there are many countries were SIM cards are 
just sold in the streets without any requirements. Former USSR, many countries 
in Asia, some in Africa, etc.

 Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for
 us here in the group!


I do it already for some friends but the point is that with the phone number I 
would be able to enter the account and change the password, read emails etc. 
Not that good for privacy, people who do not know me should not accept :)
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
forc...@safe-mail.net wrote:
 I am under the impression that in most countries you have to show ID
 which is copied to obtain a SIM?  This was my experience in Spain for
 example. 
 
 Yes in Western Europe it is so. But there are many countries were SIM cards 
 are just sold in the streets without any requirements. Former USSR, many 
 countries in Asia, some in Africa, etc.
 
Is it very difficult to buy a SIM without showing ID in the USA or
countries of Western Europe? Sorry for such off topic but it is very
interesting to know are there any countries in Western Europe or states
of the USA when it is possible to buy a SIM without showing your ID with
accordance to local law?


 Maybe you should start up a gmail activation service! Or at least for
 us here in the group!
 
 
 I do it already for some friends but the point is that with the phone number 
 I would be able to enter the account and change the password, read emails 
 etc. Not that good for privacy, people who do not know me should not accept :)
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You can do it on a paying basis not only as an enthusiast which assists
for all paranoids in the World :)
And it will be a good idea, if I am not wrong, to do it not at your home
but only at public places - restaraunts, cafes, bars and etc. for an
Adversary cannot reseach where are you live and who you are.
And if you have many such clients it seems your anonymity will be high.
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:18:09 +
Orionjur Tor-admin tor-ad...@orionjurinform.com wrote:
 Is it very difficult to buy a SIM without showing ID in the USA or
 countries of Western Europe? Sorry for such off topic but it is very
 interesting to know are there any countries in Western Europe or
 states of the USA when it is possible to buy a SIM without showing
 your ID with accordance to local law?

My $0.02 from buying SIM cards all over the world, I show them my
CostCo Club photo id.  In Hong Kong they wrote down my first/last name
as cost co.  No one has photocopied the ID yet.  Many shops ask for
it and then do nothing with it.  As explained to me in Belgium, the law
says they have to see an ID, not record, write down, and register the
sim in your name. Maybe I just found a cool shop by accident.

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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Matthew



On 05/01/11 19:25, Andrew Lewman wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:18:09 +
Orionjur Tor-admintor-ad...@orionjurinform.com  wrote:

Is it very difficult to buy a SIM without showing ID in the USA or
countries of Western Europe? Sorry for such off topic but it is very
interesting to know are there any countries in Western Europe or
states of the USA when it is possible to buy a SIM without showing
your ID with accordance to local law?

My $0.02 from buying SIM cards all over the world, I show them my
CostCo Club photo id.  In Hong Kong they wrote down my first/last name
as cost co.  No one has photocopied the ID yet.  Many shops ask for
it and then do nothing with it.  As explained to me in Belgium, the law
says they have to see an ID, not record, write down, and register the
sim in your name. Maybe I just found a cool shop by accident.

Have you tried this in Spain?  In Madrid the shop photocopied the back page 
of my passport.  In London, by comparison, one can buy as many SIMs as one 
wants without ID from any number of corner shops.


http://boingboing.net/2010/09/09/china-to-end-anonymo.html - read the 
comments especially Anon at 6:59PM.

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Re: System time in anonymity oriented LiveCDs

2011-01-05 Thread intrigeri
Hi,

Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote (03 Jan 2011 16:48:10 GMT) :
 What about this http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/autokey.html?

After reading this page quite quickly, it seems to me this NTP autokey
feature is a way to secure exchanges between a given NTP server you
manage and some clients you provide SSL client certs with.

Although this seems to be working for authenticating the NTP server,
this also has the severe drawback (in the Live system context this
discussion arises from) of:

  - forcing the Live system's authors, or someone else, to run a
dedicated NTP server
  - allowing a local attacker (say, an ISP) to very easily
fingerprint this Live system's users based on the fact they send
NTP (+autokey) requests to this special NTP server.

Am I mistaken?

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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi,

On 05.01.2011 20:18, Orionjur Tor-admin wrote:
 Is it very difficult to buy a SIM without showing ID in the USA or
 countries of Western Europe? Sorry for such off topic but it is very
 interesting to know are there any countries in Western Europe or states
 of the USA when it is possible to buy a SIM without showing your ID with
 accordance to local law?

At least in Germany, you can buy SIMs not activated in a lot of shops
without showing ID. It is an open secret that you can activate many of
them using a(ny) correct address without further verification.

Also off topic: For example, UKash vouchers are being sold across Europe
and can be used to buy prepaid Mastercards online using a service called
UKash Neo, using SMS as owner verification. I can confirm that the CCs
work even with Paypal.
In the US, a lot of shops sell prepaid CCs (gift cards). To use
online, they also require some sort of address verification, which is
probably hard to do in a country where there is no ID or residency register.
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Re: System time in anonymity oriented LiveCDs

2011-01-05 Thread intrigeri
Hi,

thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de wrote (03 Jan 2011 16:56:19 GMT) :
 Without understanding details of the tor design, did you mention
 that tor knows the real time?
 So why dont you let tor set the right time.

This is exactly what Liberte Linux does, and what we (T(A)ILS
developers) are considering to do.

We are asking here about possible security / anonymity issues that
could be caused by doing this: Tor indeed distributes an approximation
of the current time to the Tor users, but this is rather a side effect
than an advertised feature, and this is thus probably not meant to be
relied on. That's why we are asking the Tor designers / experts /
developers if it sounds reasonable to rely on this distributed time to
set the system clock within bounds that will allow the Tor client (Tor
proxy, in Tor design's words) to work.

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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi,

Am 05.01.2011 20:37, schrieb Matthew:
 Have you tried this in Spain?  In Madrid the shop photocopied the back
 page of my passport. 

Germany introduced an electronic ID recently. In the revised laws they
made clear that leaving the ID as deposit, or having it photocopied, is
illegal. The new ID carries a personal identifier printed on it that
should only be known to the bearer.

[Source:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Deine-wichtigste-Karte-Vom-Umgang-mit-dem-neuen-Personalausweis-1133588.html
]
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread G-Lo ☠
 I am under the impression that in most countries you have to show ID
 which is copied to obtain a SIM?  This was my experience in Spain for
 example. 

In France, anyone can buy a phone with a SIM card usable immediately, in
any tobacco shop, without the need to show an ID.

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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
G-Lo ☠ wrote:
 I am under the impression that in most countries you have to show ID
 which is copied to obtain a SIM?  This was my experience in Spain for
 example. 
 
 In France, anyone can buy a phone with a SIM card usable immediately, in
 any tobacco shop, without the need to show an ID.
 
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It seems as very good and democratic laws and practice.
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Re: Tor and google groups

2011-01-05 Thread Orionjur Tor-admin
Moritz Bartl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am 05.01.2011 20:37, schrieb Matthew:
 Have you tried this in Spain?  In Madrid the shop photocopied the back
 page of my passport. 
 
 Germany introduced an electronic ID recently. In the revised laws they
 made clear that leaving the ID as deposit, or having it photocopied, is
 illegal. The new ID carries a personal identifier printed on it that
 should only be known to the bearer.
 
 [Source:
 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Deine-wichtigste-Karte-Vom-Umgang-mit-dem-neuen-Personalausweis-1133588.html
 ]


That is a very bad practice breaking anonymity and human rights.
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Re: Tor uses swap?

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake andr...@fastmail.fm (andr...@fastmail.fm):

 I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and Tor browser bundle with scripts forbidden.
 
 Does any of my web search results or web pages (or anything else during
 the web session) I look at get sent to or put on the SWAP partition of
 my machine?

This is a good question. Tor has a torrc option that is off by default
to disable all swap activity *by the tor process itself*:
'DisableAllSwap 1'.

However, this is not all you need. Your web browser can still be
swapped arbitrarily to disk. Unfortunately, this is difficult for us
to control for two reasons:

1. It is not possible to access the system calls relevant to this from
Torbutton until Firefox 4 (which provides JS-Ctypes to addon
developers) is in common use.

2. Even if we do this with a custom TBB build, most operating systems
require root/administrator priviledges to disable swap activity. 

The other alternative is to set up encrypted swap. The Ubuntu
documentation on encryption is pretty sad and disorganized:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto

But I think there should be an option to set up encrypted swap during
the installation process. There certainly is on other modern distros
like Fedora and even CentOS.

 That is to say- is there any data on my computer I should shred after a
 Tor session?  (yes, I understand other than what I knowingly download
 like a PDF or music)

Other than swap, Torbutton should be blocking all history writes by
Firefox in Tor mode by default.

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Re: Tor uses swap?

2011-01-05 Thread Dirk
Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 I just encrypted my swap (after reading through this thread) and it was 
 fairly easy (we'll see if all is well on next bootup).  I followed these 
 simple instructions:
 
 http://linux.ioerror.us/2006/09/encrypting-your-swap-partition-on-fedora-core/
 
 I use Mandriva which is a Redhat/Fedora-related distro.  I just reactivated 
 my newly-encrypted swap and continued without interruption to my system.
 
 On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 08:53:31 am you wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:25 PM, andr...@fastmail.fm wrote:



 I sure would LOVE to know an easy way to encrypt my swap.  My plan had
 been to do a fresh reinstallation of Ubuntu 10.04 on my dual-boot
 machine but I got to the encrypt the disk portion of the installation
 using Alternate CD and quit.  There were too many questions or settings
 that I had no idea what to enter.




 Try ubuntu server cd.

 

since 4GB or 8GB of ram are pretty much the standard these days you could use a 
ramdisk for swap... ;D
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Re: Tor in German media (27c3)

2011-01-05 Thread Dirk
Moritz Bartl wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 04.01.2011 18:09, Dirk wrote:
 I wouldn't be interested into starting exit nodes and then give in as
 soon as there is pressure..
 
 I understand that, but on the other hand: Why not? All users benefit
 from nodes, even if only temporary.
 You (and other readers) are of course always invited to join our efforts
 at torservers. And we have a lawyer.

yes... but that's not reassuring enough.. i'll still rather visit a lawyer 
myself first...

the problem for the most people, who would like to run exit nodes, is their 
fear because they don't know if they would receive
the german counterpart of just a CD letter... or if they will get their homes 
raided and basically get their lifes ruined
forever with the legal fee's alone...
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Re: Tor uses swap?

2011-01-05 Thread andrew
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:27:59PM +0100, noi...@gmx.net wrote 1.2K bytes in 29 
lines about:
: since 4GB or 8GB of ram are pretty much the standard these days you could use 
a ramdisk for swap... ;D

Towards this end, my travel laptop running pcbsd has no swap configured.
I haven't run into any issues with this configuration yet.  I realize
the risks of some program going haywire and consuming all ram, but in
the past month of doing this, it hasn't materialized.

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Re: Tor uses swap?

2011-01-05 Thread andre76

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On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:36 -0500, and...@torproject.org wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:27:59PM +0100, noi...@gmx.net wrote 1.2K bytes
 in 29 lines about:
 : since 4GB or 8GB of ram are pretty much the standard these days you
 could use a ramdisk for swap... ;D
 
 Towards this end, my travel laptop running pcbsd has no swap configured.
 I haven't run into any issues with this configuration yet.  I realize
 the risks of some program going haywire and consuming all ram, but in
 the past month of doing this, it hasn't materialized.
 
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Please let me know what you think...does this look correct?  I just
encrypted my swap using the following command;

sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap


Here's what's in my crypttab-   

# target name source device key file  options

cryptswap1 /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256

Here's what's in my Fstab;  (I deleted a lot of the UUID numbers and
letters)

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique
identifier
# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
# / was on /dev/sdb5 during installation
UUID=-c2ea-4b91-b764-adb /   ext4   
errors=remount-ro 0   1
# swap was on /dev/sdb6 during installation
#UUID=xxce38cd7 noneswapsw  
   0   0
/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 
 0
/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0


How does it look to you?

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Double log entries?

2011-01-05 Thread Geoff Down
Hi All,
Happy New Year.
 I have double entries, including the timestamp, in my Notice-level Tor
 logs. I think it started when I sent a SIGHUP. lsof shows two Write
 file descriptors fwiw. This is Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha OSX PPC, Vidalia is
 not running.
Any ideas?
TIA
GD

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