RE: Router filtering

2001-06-02 Thread Peter McLarty

i am not entirely sure about the ports and how they are used as I have not 
attempted such things. However some of the active state firewalls, Cisco 
PIX and Checkpoint fit into these, I believe do active filtering and will 
open ports at random by looking at the actual traffic. I believe that it is 
to solve these exact issues. It looks at whether it is a reply to a request 
from previous traffic as I understand it.
The problem with these products is that they aren't cheap.


HTH

Peter

At 07:50 PM 1/06/2001 -0800, you wrote:
  KK - you probably got something on this already, but if
you're on NT (making appropriate gagging or adulatory noises)
then there is a way to have the listener use the same port
to listen and maintain connections.

I gather it's deprecated, since a listener bounce snaps
the connections.

But, f*ck it, it's NT. It's not like you'll be keeping those
connections up for seven years straight or anything.

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i went through this same issue recently.  Unfortunatley my only option
was
to open up all ports to the specific db server to specific IP's.  I
don't
like doing it, but I had to.  If you look on Metaslop there is some
information on this problem.  There are fixes for some routers, check
and
see if yours is one of them.

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Turner
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Anyone have any recommendations on getting sqlplus connections to a
database
running
MTS which has a router in between that is filtering except on port 1521?
I
can open
up additional ports but opening a whole slew of them for MTS's random
port
allocation
has put the network guys in shock.

We have set SERVER=DEDICATED in tnsnames to get connections thru for now
and
I'm looking
at CMAN for a permanent fix, but does anyone else think they have a
better
way?

Thanks, Dave Turner
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RE: Public Synonyms Performance

2001-06-02 Thread Christopher Spence

Synonyms have a sustantal impact on performance.  Public synonyms are by far
greater impact on performance than private ones.  The use of synonyms can
prove to have a considerable negative impact on cpu time used during parse
phase of queries.  It can also prove to negatively impact aging of sql
statements in the libary cache.

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HI all,

I think someone ask this question before, but I don't
have any mails about this.

What are the performance implications in the use of
PUBLIC synonyms ? (What about private synonyms?)

How does Oracle resolve internally a public synonym
use?


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RE: what is wrong with this procedure

2001-06-02 Thread Shahid Malik(IT)

temp_name should be %rowtype  variable;

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create or replace procedure remove_bucket
as
cursor c1 is
select table_name from (
select table_name from user_constraints
where r_constraint_name ='PK_T_ACC_USAGE_1');
temp_name varchar2(255);
temp_count number(10);
str varchar2(2000);
begin
open c1;
loop
fetch c1 into temp_name;
exit when c1%notfound;
select count(*) into temp_count from temp_name;
dbms_output.put_line(temp_count);
end loop;
close c1;
EXCEPTION
WHEN OTHERS
THEN DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE('INVALID SYNTAX');
end;
/

I am geeting following error:

15/1 PL/SQL: SQL Statement ignored
15/38PLS-00201: identifier 'TEMP_NAME' must be declared

what is the possible solution...

Thanks
Harvinder
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Re: Tkprof/explain plan errors

2001-06-02 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Note that tkprof's execution plan shows execution plan against current
database connection to which tkprof is connected. So, execution plan in
trace file and execution plan in tkprof output may be different. And, I
guess, tkprof shows first execution plan. If your statement parsed more
than once, Execution plans may be different.

have you run itrprof at
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/itrprof/itrprof.html .
It reports execution plans in trace files(so, correct execution plans) and
you can see all execution plan(s).

regards...

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 error connecting to database using: /
 ORA-01017: invalid username/password; logon denied

 EXPLAIN PLAN option disabled.
 

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Re: dbms_job query?

2001-06-02 Thread ARUN K C

we had these situations  for this we had to break the job first and then 
kill the snp process after some time u will see the sid out of v$session.
Even if you kill the snp it will be kicked back later on from pid or spid i 
think i am not sure but it works
Try this out it should work
Well there must be some better answers from the experts out here check it 
out


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Hi
If status=KILLED  in v$session and the process is SNP oracle background
process corresponding to that sid and dba_jobs_running has the same sid,no
entry corresponding in dba_jobs then how to kill that process.
Thx
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Re: interpreting ses_actions in dba_audit_object

2001-06-02 Thread Suzy Vordos


This script was accurate for 8.0.6, haven't tried it in 8i.

column obj_name format a30
select obj_name, to_char(timestamp,'MM-DD- HH:MI:SS'),
decode(ses_actions,
   '---S','DELETE',
   '--S-','INSERT',
   '-S--','SELECT',
   '--S-','UPDATE',
   '---S--S--S--','DELETE/INSERT/SELECT',
   '---S--S--SS-','DELETE/INSERT/SELECT/UPDATE',
   '--S--S--','INSERT/SELECT',
   '--S--SS-','INSERT/SELECT/UPDATE',
   '-SS-','SELECT/UPDATE',
   'UNKNOWN')
from dba_audit_object where owner in ('VGN','PCAT60')
order by 2 ;


TAG DBA wrote:
 
 I enabled all auditing on a table. After doing a select, insert and delete I have 
one row in dba_audit_object which shows the following for ses_actions column:
 ---S--S--S--
 I know that I have to tie this up with audit options in dba_obj_audit_options to get 
a more readable report like :
 Object TEST was SELECTED, INSERTED etc etc
 I am planning to use decode and some string functions to test for S in the above 
string and determine whether a certain action happenned or not.
 Does anyone have any better ideas (or better still a read made script ? :-)
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RE: Bumper Stickers [Re: Bumoer Stickers [RE: Rebuilding indexes]

2001-06-02 Thread Christopher Spence

 1.  Driver only carries $20 in ammunition.
 2.  Save the whales!  Collect the whole set.
 3.  If it's not vaporware, it's crap!
 4.  Please pay MS now to complete rebooting your PC
 5.  A failure to plan on your part does not constitute as a crisis on my
part
 6.  A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.
 7.  There cannot be a crisis today; my schedule is already full.
 8.  Why is 'abbreviation' such a long word?
 9.  2400 Baud makes you want to get out and push!!
10.  We now offer an AOL CD for completing 10 years of service

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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My two favorites -

1. My karma ran over my dogma.
2. Save wildlife - party naked.

Srini Chavali
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Cummins Inc





Jim Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]@fatcity.com on 06/01/2001 03:33:11 PM

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My bumper sticker:

If you make it idiot-proof, they will build a better idiot.

(Note:  can be paraphrased with the word developer)

Jim


It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper
 stickers made up for
members of this list.  Some ideas I had:

ARE YOU AN IDIOT?

or

SHUTDOWN ABORT


 Don't forget HELP

 - Kirti

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  Subject:   RE: Rebuilding indexes
 
  On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Hatzistavrou Giannis wrote:
 
   I don;t quite understand you quoting
   Once the indexes have all
   been rebuilt nologging into the original tablespace, all that's
left
   is to
   refresh the datafiles for that tablespace onto the primary.  
   Is primary a typo error (i.e. standby)?
 
  Argh!  It was a typo.  Of course, after doing many unrecoverable
  operations, you
  should refresh the affected datafiles from the primary to the standby.
 
  Vadim Gorbounov mentioned the column 'unrecoverable_change#' in
  v$datafile.
  This looks like an SCN, not a count of unrecoverable changes.  Either
way,
  it
  seems like a useful way to decide if a datafile shoule be refreshed
onto
  the
  standby.  I can even imagine improving a standby log applier that could
be
  made
  to refresh such files from the primary automatically.
 
  On another topic, I believe I qualify for some sort of award as uber
geek.
  This week I obtained the Washington State license plate ORA DBA for
my
  '74
  Volvo.
 
  It got me thinking that it would be fun to have some bumper stickers
made
  up for
  members of this list.  Some ideas I had:
 
  ARE YOU AN IDIOT?
 
  or
 
  SHUTDOWN ABORT
 
  --
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  http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton
 
 
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MEA CULPA: Snapshot Logs Explanation Needed

2001-06-02 Thread A. Bardeen

Evidently my original message was bounced back, so I'm
resending.

-- amb

Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Brian,

You are absolutely correct and I was wrong. I went
back and RTFM and for PK-based snapshots
DBMS_SNAPSHOT.BEGIN_TABLE_REORGANIZATION and
END_TABLE_REORGANIZATION exist for just this purpose.

Thanks Brian for setting me straight.

Before I checked the manual, however, I tried some
tests myself (8.1.6 on Win2K) and I may have uncovered
a new bug.  I was unable to find an existing bug on
metalink, but I want to do some more tests before I
report it.  

If you drop and recreate the snapshot log without
calling the procedure above, the next fast refresh
will not report an error, but it removes the rows from
the snapshot log and they are NOT refreshed to the
snapshot which means the snapshot will be out of sync!
 Bad news.  Subsequent fast refreshes work properly.

I'm just listing an excerpt from the spool file, 

SVRMGR select * from test;
COL1  COL2  COL3 
- - -
1 2 3
2 4 6
3 6 9
3 rows selected.
SVRMGR create snapshot snaptest refresh fast as
select * from test;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select * from snaptest;
COL1  COL2  COL3 
- - -
1 2 3
2 4 6
3 6 9
3 rows selected.
SVRMGR drop snapshot log on test;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR create snapshot log on test;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR -- the primary key option is not needed since
that is the default
SVRMGR insert into test values (seq1.nextval,
seq1.nextval*2, seq1.nextval*3);
1 row processed.
SVRMGR commit;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select count(*) from test;
COUNT
-
4
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from mlog$_test;
COUNT
-
1
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from snaptest;
COUNT
-
3
1 row selected.
SVRMGR execute dbms_snapshot.refresh('SNAPTEST','F');
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select count(*) from mlog$_test;
COUNT
-
0
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from snaptest;
COUNT
-
3
1 row selected.
SVRMGR execute dbms_snapshot.refresh('SNAPTEST','F');
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select count(*) from test;
COUNT
-
4
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from mlog$_test;
COUNT
-
0
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from snaptest;
COUNT
-
3
1 row selected.
SVRMGR -- snapshot is now out of sync!
SVRMGR insert into test values (seq1.nextval,
seq1.nextval*2, seq1.nextval*3);
1 row processed.
SVRMGR commit;
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select count(*) from test;
COUNT
-
5
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from mlog$_test;
COUNT
-
1
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from snaptest;
COUNT
-
3
1 row selected.
SVRMGR execute dbms_snapshot.refresh('SNAPTEST','F');
Statement processed.
SVRMGR select count(*) from test;
COUNT
-
4
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from mlog$_test;
COUNT
-
0
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select count(*) from snaptest;
COUNT
-
4
1 row selected.
SVRMGR select * from snaptest;
COL1  COL2  COL3 
- - -
1 2 3
2 4 6
3 6 9
51015
4 rows selected.
SVRMGR -- Notice the gap, row w/values 4,8,12 has
been lost

I'll let y'all know what I find out on the bug.

-- Anita 


--- Norrell, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, checked TFM and there are two type of fast
 refresh snapshots: primary
 key (new in 8)
 and rowid.
 
 For a rowid snapshot, when the table (EMP) is
 updated, a row is added to the
 snapshot log (MLOG$_EMP) containing mainly the type
 of action, timestamping
 info, and the rowid (MLOG$_EMP.M_ROW$$) of the
 affected record (rowid x
 deleted at 2pm).
 
 The snapshot object (type UNDEFINED in dba_objects)
 that lies underneath the
 table seen by the end users is akin to a table (it
 has an index) and has an
 extra column (also called M_ROW$$) that contains the
 rowid from the master
 table (rowid y is a copy of master rowid x).  During
 a refresh, the changes
 from the snapshot log are applied to records in the
 shapshot with the
 appropriate *master* rowid (DELETE FROM
 snap.CAREGIVERS WHERE M_ROW$$ = x).
 
 So if you drop the table and recreate it without a
 full refresh, the M_ROW$$
 values in the snapshot object are now invalid
 because they point to the
 emp.rowid before the reorg.
 
 For a primary key snapshot, there is no M_ROW$$
 column.  Instead, the
 primary key columns are placed in the snapshot log
 and used to identify the
 rows in the snapshot.  Because rowids are not
 involved, a primary key
 snapshot CAN be fast refreshed (according to TFM)
 after a drop an recreate.
 However, there are some procedures that need to be
 called to let the system
 know you are doing a reorg so that it doesn't flip
 out when the table goes
 away.
 
 Clear as mud?
 
 HELP, AND 

Re: MaterializeRe: Snapshot Logs Explanation Needed

2001-06-02 Thread A. Bardeen

Dave,

/* SOAPBOX ON */

I'm well aware that hacking the data dictionary is
possible, but you'll never see me advocating that on
the list.  I believe hacking should be done only as a
last resort to save a db or avoid rebuilding it and
even then should be done only under the guidance of
Oracle Support.  In many cases even they won't let you
make the changes, but will require dial-in access so
they can make the changes to ensure that they're done
properly.

Since there are virtually no PK/FK relationships
defined in the data dictionary it's far too easy to
miss one of the relationships and end up with a
corrupted dictionary.  Said corruption may not
manifest itself until days, weeks, or months later, at
which point you'll have a bigger and messier problem
than the original one.  So even if you practice this
on a test db and it seems to work OK, it might just be
that you haven't performed the operations that would
reveal the corruption.

Definitely not something I want to attempt via email. 
IMHO the disclaimers backup first and use at your
own risk are insufficient.

/* SOAPBOX OFF */

-- Anita

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   I'm not sure if you are the original poster but
   
 
   There is a way to force a view into fast refresh
 mode
   after you have restructured the snapshot logs
 
   WARNING: This is unsupported by Oracle and involves
 messing
   with the data dictionary.
 
   I once had to create a 4GB snapshot over an ISDN
 line
   This was done by creating the snapshot locally,
 exporting,
   ftp, import and then:
 
   In DBA_SNAPSHOTS (I believe) I compared the entry
 in the local
   database to the remote. One field was different in
 my case. A simple
   update to the data dictionary enabled the FAST
 REFRESH to take place.
 
   THIS IS DANGEROUS STUFF :) 
 
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Re: dbms_job query?

2001-06-02 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hi Seema,


- v$session.status="KILLED" is not enough to say that session is really killed.
Check v$session.server column, too. If it's something other than pseudo i.e.
dedicated,shared,  it means that there are activities such as  network I/O or
rolling back a transaction, etc.

- As I remember If an snp is killed, it wakes up after a while(but, I'm not
sure)

- If PMON has a lot of activities, it may take time to clean all resources
allocated by killed session.

- PMON can not remove session object. It is removed when a killed session tries
to make kernel call (gets ora-28).

- If a transaction is killed, current working statement is not killed
immediately. for example:

   - insert
   - select ...
   - update   1000-- KILL here
   - update 5

If you kill during updating 1000 rows, Oracle will update 1000 rows, then
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ARUN K C wrote:

 we had these situations  for this we had to break the job first and then
 kill the snp process after some time u will see the sid out of v$session.
 Even if you kill the snp it will be kicked back later on from pid or spid i
 think i am not sure but it works
 Try this out it should work
 Well there must be some better answers from the experts out here check it
 out

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 Hi
 If status=KILLED  in v$session and the process is SNP oracle background
 process corresponding to that sid and dba_jobs_running has the same sid,no
 entry corresponding in dba_jobs then how to kill that process.
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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread A. Bardeen

I understand what you want to do, but realistically
how do you expect Oracle to maintain an index or
efficiently search it when the leading characters are
unknown and of variable length?

Perhaps this would be suitable for a
context/intermedia index?  I have long since forgotten
what little I knew about context from O7, so I'm not
much help there.

Is the substring that you're interested in a fixed
value or a range of exclusive values (i.e. the string
will not contain more than one of the values)?  If so,
why not create a trigger which populates another
column and index that column?  I would think a bitmap
index would be ideal for that situation.

Hmm, now that I think about it couldn't you create a
fbi that uses the instr function to accomplish this?  

HTH,

-- Anita


--- SuzyV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How unpleasant, the answer I expected but didn't
 want to hear.  At points of
 loopy desperation I've tried dumbest things to make
 this work, eg., creating the
 index as lower('%email_addy%') which produces the
 expected useless result in
 dba_ind_expressions:
 
 SQL create index idx_test
 on test (lower('%email_addy%') ;
 
 SQL select index_name, column_expression from
 dba_ind_expressions 
 where table_name = 'TEST'
 
 INDEX_NAME   COLUMN_EXPRESSION
 --   -
 IDX_TEST '%email_addy%'
 
 
 My suggested workaround to the developers is to
 store the string lower case. 
 For some strings this is okay, but obviously not a
 great solution for strings
 which may be case-dependent.  
 
 fbi = f**ing boneheaded index :)
 
 Suzy
 
 
 Joseph S. Testa wrote:
  
  i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking
 for something to fill
  that possibility to no avail.
  
  joe
  Rachel Carmichael wrote:
  
   she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy
 wants to know (and I do too,
   because I have a similar situation) is if there
 is a way to create an index
   that will let you search with the like clause.
  
   Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't
 make Oracle do that
  
   From: Hillman, Alex
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   Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800
   
   index is not used because you have leading % in
 the like predicate.
   
   Alex Hillman
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
   I've created a function index for
 lower(column_name).  However the query
   does
   a like comparison rather than equality so the
 index isn't used.  Is there a
   way to create a function index for this?
   
   Here's the index and query:
   
   create index fx1_auth_users
   on auth_users (lower(current_email)
   tablespace app01_midx ;
   
   select current_email from auth_users
   where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%'
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   Thanks much,
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Steps for removing jobs

2001-06-02 Thread A. Bardeen

Hi all!

There have been several posts lately regarding how to
kill or remove jobs from the job queue once they're
running, so here are the steps.

Background
--

*  Removing a job from the job queue, removes it from
the queue, but does NOT abort the job if it is
currently running (i.e. in DBA_JOBS_RUNNING).

*  If the job# in dba_jobs_running doesn't exist in
dba_jobs, then the job has already been removed from
the job queue.

*  You can only manage your own jobs, even if you're a
DBA user. Someone else mentioned using BECOME USER to
manage another user's jobs; sounds like a great idea,
but I haven't had a chance to try that to see if it
works.

*  Jobs in the job queue are not run by the SNP
processes when the db is started up in restricted mode
or when JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0, but may be run
manually.

To kill a currently running job
---

1.  First you must break or remove the job in the job
queue, otherwise the job will just start right back up
again the next time the SNP processes check for jobs
to run (based on job_queue_interval).  
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,true);
  or
execute dbms_job.remove(job#);

2.  Kill the SNP process at the OS level.  You can
identify the process to kill using the SID from
DBA_JOBS_RUNNING:
select s.sid, p.spid from v$session s, v$process p
  where s.paddr=p.addr and s.sid=sid;
   p.spid is the OS process ID

3.  As with any session that is killed, it will need
to be rolled back and cleaned up.

To restart a broken job
---
A job will be marked as unbroken the next time it is
successfully run or when it is marked as unbroken.
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.run(job#);
  or
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,false);


Also check out Note 61730.1 Using the DBMS_JOB
Package

HTH,

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2001-06-02 Thread OraStaff

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RE: Bumoer Stickers [RE: Rebuilding indexes]

2001-06-02 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-THAT one I'll put on my car :)
-
-and my desk. and the developer's face

OK so who's geting them printed?;-)  or should i look into it?
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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001,Joseph S. Testa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
-that possibility to no avail.

dumb question would a contex... oh excuse me InterMedia index work?

-
-joe
-Rachel Carmichael wrote:
-
- she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do too,
- because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create an index
- that will let you search with the like clause.
-
- Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
-
- From: Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
- Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800
- 
- index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.
- 
- Alex Hillman
- 
- -Original Message-
- Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
- 
- 
- 
- I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the query
- does
- a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is there a
- way to create a function index for this?
- 
- Here's the index and query:
- 
- create index fx1_auth_users
- on auth_users (lower(current_email)
- tablespace app01_midx ;
- 
- select current_email from auth_users
- where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%' ;
- 
- Thanks much,
- Suzy
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RE: data files - How big?

2001-06-02 Thread Christopher Spence

I personally am not a fan of auto extend.  I like to have a procedure when
adding new data files.
I tend to keep data files smaller against popular opinion, there is no
performance loss with many different data files.  Also there is less likely
of having OS locks when data files are more and smaller.  Also, it is much
easier to manage them if they need to be moved around if they are only 100
or 500Mb rather than 10Gb or 100Gb.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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I am setting up a new linux server (redhat 6.2  oracle 8i 8.1.7) with a 
1Ghz Processor and 512Mb RAM. How large should individual data files in a 
tablespace be allowed to grow? I can't find any advice on this in my oracle 
manuals/books. Is there a data file size that starts to hurt oracle. I've 
got one tablespace that will have 1-1.5 Gb of data. Should I allow a 
datafile to grow to that size, or would oracle like it better if I split it 
into 3 500Mb datafiles? Likewise, how should I handle the SYSTEM 
tablespace? Should I leave it as 1 large datafile or should it be broken 
into smaller ones?
I would also like to know what good oracle email lists are available to ask 
dba related questions other than this one.

Thanks,

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online oracle backup on windows2000

2001-06-02 Thread Arslan Bahar

  i wanna  to take  online backup on w2000  and i will  write a batch
file  to perform
   ALTER TABLE SPACE ...  BEGIN  BACKUP  and  END BACKUP  commands.
  but  i dont  know  how  can i sent files  to tape on command prompt.

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2001-06-02 Thread Arslan Bahar

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Hi all!

There have been several posts lately regarding how to
kill or remove jobs from the job queue once they're
running, so here are the steps.

Background
--

*  Removing a job from the job queue, removes it from
the queue, but does NOT abort the job if it is
currently running (i.e. in DBA_JOBS_RUNNING).

*  If the job# in dba_jobs_running doesn't exist in
dba_jobs, then the job has already been removed from
the job queue.

*  You can only manage your own jobs, even if you're a
DBA user. Someone else mentioned using BECOME USER to
manage another user's jobs; sounds like a great idea,
but I haven't had a chance to try that to see if it
works.

*  Jobs in the job queue are not run by the SNP
processes when the db is started up in restricted mode
or when JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0, but may be run
manually.

To kill a currently running job
---

1.  First you must break or remove the job in the job
queue, otherwise the job will just start right back up
again the next time the SNP processes check for jobs
to run (based on job_queue_interval).  
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,true);
  or
execute dbms_job.remove(job#);

2.  Kill the SNP process at the OS level.  You can
identify the process to kill using the SID from
DBA_JOBS_RUNNING:
select s.sid, p.spid from v$session s, v$process p
  where s.paddr=p.addr and s.sid=sid;
   p.spid is the OS process ID

3.  As with any session that is killed, it will need
to be rolled back and cleaned up.

To restart a broken job
---
A job will be marked as unbroken the next time it is
successfully run or when it is marked as unbroken.
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.run(job#);
  or
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,false);


Also check out Note 61730.1 Using the DBMS_JOB
Package

HTH,

-- Anita


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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Joseph S. Testa

good question, i've not tried any intermedia/context stuff.

any experts out there?

Joe
Thater, William wrote:
 
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2001,Joseph S. Testa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
 
 -i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
 -that possibility to no avail.
 
 dumb question would a contex... oh excuse me InterMedia index work?
 
 -
 -joe
 -Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 -
 - she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do too,
 - because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create an index
 - that will let you search with the like clause.
 -
 - Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
 -
 - From: Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
 - Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800
 - 
 - index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.
 - 
 - Alex Hillman
 - 
 - -Original Message-
 - Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
 - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 - 
 - 
 - 
 - I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the query
 - does
 - a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is there a
 - way to create a function index for this?
 - 
 - Here's the index and query:
 - 
 - create index fx1_auth_users
 - on auth_users (lower(current_email)
 - tablespace app01_midx ;
 - 
 - select current_email from auth_users
 - where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%' ;
 - 
 - Thanks much,
 - Suzy
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RE: to list administrator

2001-06-02 Thread Rajaram

No Wonder, U may be getting one from Lazy Dba list and Other from  this List!!
Check it out.



-Original Message-
From:   Arslan Bahar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject:to  list  administrator

 i have been  receiving each mail two times

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 7:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi all!

There have been several posts lately regarding how to
kill or remove jobs from the job queue once they're
running, so here are the steps.

Background
--

*  Removing a job from the job queue, removes it from
the queue, but does NOT abort the job if it is
currently running (i.e. in DBA_JOBS_RUNNING).

*  If the job# in dba_jobs_running doesn't exist in
dba_jobs, then the job has already been removed from
the job queue.

*  You can only manage your own jobs, even if you're a
DBA user. Someone else mentioned using BECOME USER to
manage another user's jobs; sounds like a great idea,
but I haven't had a chance to try that to see if it
works.

*  Jobs in the job queue are not run by the SNP
processes when the db is started up in restricted mode
or when JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0, but may be run
manually.

To kill a currently running job
---

1.  First you must break or remove the job in the job
queue, otherwise the job will just start right back up
again the next time the SNP processes check for jobs
to run (based on job_queue_interval).  
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,true);
  or
execute dbms_job.remove(job#);

2.  Kill the SNP process at the OS level.  You can
identify the process to kill using the SID from
DBA_JOBS_RUNNING:
select s.sid, p.spid from v$session s, v$process p
  where s.paddr=p.addr and s.sid=sid;
   p.spid is the OS process ID

3.  As with any session that is killed, it will need
to be rolled back and cleaned up.

To restart a broken job
---
A job will be marked as unbroken the next time it is
successfully run or when it is marked as unbroken.
  As the job owner:
execute dbms_job.run(job#);
  or
execute dbms_job.broken(job#,false);


Also check out Note 61730.1 Using the DBMS_JOB
Package

HTH,

-- Anita


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Re: 4 join methods?

2001-06-02 Thread Sam Roberts



I did have to RTFM - 

A cluster join is nothing more than a nested loops join 
involving two tables that are stored together in a cluster. Because each row 
from the dept table is stored in the same data blocks as the 
matching rows in the emp table, Oracle can access matching rows 
most efficiently

Sam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vadim Gorbounov 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 6:25 PM
  Subject: RE: 4 join methods?
  
  Hi, 
  DBAs,
  RTFM is so 
  boring, but... There is cutpaste from 
  "Oracle8i Designing and Tuning for 
  Performance" 
   The 
  Optimizer
   Optimizing 
  joins
  
  
  


  
Join 
Operations
  
To join each pair of row sources, 
Oracle must perform one of these operations: 

  Nested Loops (NL) Join 
  
  Sort-Merge Join 
  
  Hash Join (not available with the RBO) 
  
  Cluster Join 
  
  Cheers,
  Vadim 
  Gorbounov
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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael

ooh ooh a fbi with instr!  can't wait until Monday to try that one out on 
the table in question...


From: A. Bardeen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: function index for like '%string%'
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 07:45:27 -0800

I understand what you want to do, but realistically
how do you expect Oracle to maintain an index or
efficiently search it when the leading characters are
unknown and of variable length?

Perhaps this would be suitable for a
context/intermedia index?  I have long since forgotten
what little I knew about context from O7, so I'm not
much help there.

Is the substring that you're interested in a fixed
value or a range of exclusive values (i.e. the string
will not contain more than one of the values)?  If so,
why not create a trigger which populates another
column and index that column?  I would think a bitmap
index would be ideal for that situation.

Hmm, now that I think about it couldn't you create a
fbi that uses the instr function to accomplish this?

HTH,

-- Anita


--- SuzyV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How unpleasant, the answer I expected but didn't
  want to hear.  At points of
  loopy desperation I've tried dumbest things to make
  this work, eg., creating the
  index as lower('%email_addy%') which produces the
  expected useless result in
  dba_ind_expressions:
 
  SQL create index idx_test
  on test (lower('%email_addy%') ;
 
  SQL select index_name, column_expression from
  dba_ind_expressions
  where table_name = 'TEST'
 
  INDEX_NAME   COLUMN_EXPRESSION
  --   -
  IDX_TEST '%email_addy%'
 
 
  My suggested workaround to the developers is to
  store the string lower case.
  For some strings this is okay, but obviously not a
  great solution for strings
  which may be case-dependent.
 
  fbi = f**ing boneheaded index :)
 
  Suzy
 
 
  Joseph S. Testa wrote:
  
   i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking
  for something to fill
   that possibility to no avail.
  
   joe
   Rachel Carmichael wrote:
   
she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy
  wants to know (and I do too,
because I have a similar situation) is if there
  is a way to create an index
that will let you search with the like clause.
   
Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't
  make Oracle do that
   
From: Hillman, Alex
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800

index is not used because you have leading % in
  the like predicate.

Alex Hillman

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



I've created a function index for
  lower(column_name).  However the query
does
a like comparison rather than equality so the
  index isn't used.  Is there a
way to create a function index for this?

Here's the index and query:

create index fx1_auth_users
on auth_users (lower(current_email)
tablespace app01_midx ;

select current_email from auth_users
where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%'
  ;

Thanks much,
Suzy
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RE: Bumoer Stickers [RE: Rebuilding indexes]

2001-06-02 Thread Hal Wigoda


what was the date of this cartoon??

At 01:25 PM 6/1/01 -0800, Post, Ethan wrote:
This is getting stupid, sorry I'm going to contribute to this...how about
Calvin (http://www.ucomics.com/calvinandhobbes/viewch.htm) peeing on a SQL
Server Logo, sure beats him peeing on a Ford sign.

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Re: Is DBMS_OBFUSCATION free in Enterprise Edition?

2001-06-02 Thread Gilles PARC

Hi Cherie,

Sorry to be late...

Platform Aix 4.3.3 / Oracle 8.1.7 EE

Two months ago, i tried to use 3DES
(new in 8.1.7 DBMS_OBFUSCATION toolkit) 
and i got an error saying that i had to install
Advanced Security Option to use this algorithm 
(for simple DES you don't get this error)

So, depending on the algorithm you want to use, 
you can have extra cost as ASO is not free at all.

Check carefully with your Oracle rep as i never get
a definitive answer on that matter.

HTH


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NT script question ???

2001-06-02 Thread Andrea Oracle

Hi, 

I have couple of questions about bat file in NT 4.0
for Oracle 8.1.5.

1. how to make bat file take parameters.  I had a
backup.bat, and like to pass in Oracle SID, so the
script can backup any database.

2. in the bat file, how to dynamically append
date/time into a directory name,  like
backup_06022001121314

Thank you!

Andrea

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Re: About parallel server

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still


It was DG/UX on DG Aviion Systems, with Clariion 
storage system.  We were sharing filesystems between
2 nodes.

Don't know about the rest of DG, but EMC purchased
their Clariion storage system unit.  

Jared

On Friday 01 June 2001 14:25, Richard Ji wrote:
 A couple of years ago, no vendor has a distributed file system (one that
 will let all nodes in a cluster to mount and access the same file system
 simultaneously). And that's why we had to use raw device.  Maybe DG had it?
  So which vendor has it then and who has it now?

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Re: Auto Extend

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still


Good point John for large databases.

We were using 20 gig files in a Lawson system
on AIX.  Great for DW.

Jared

On Friday 01 June 2001 15:22, John Kanagaraj wrote:
 Neither large files nor small files are evil. As with all
 things, fit the
 solution to the problem.
 Small files can leave you with lots of separate datafiles which isn't
 necessarily a drag on performance but can be an administrative
 chore and can
 cause more wasted space due to that pesky 'end-of-datafile'
 free extent.

 Mike, I will have to disagree with you about small files not necessarily
 being a drag on performance. Given a specific size of a database, it would
 be better to go in for larger files (avoiding the 2Gb pitfall if possible)
 since each datafile adds its own component to the flurry of I/O activity
 that takes place during log switch, i.e. when all datafile headers need to
 be updated.

 In simpler terms, (Large number of) Small datafiles + small redo logs +
 high DML activity = disaster during (the frequent) log switches...

 People who want to
 set up databases larger than a terabyte will inevitably have a
 budget to invest
 in new kit and buy-in to up to date OS and software levels.
 Not everyone has
 that luxury and a lot of legacy kit doesn't like 2GB+ files.
 
 That's only my opinion but really, why play around with any
 area that is
 demonstrably strewn with bugs unless you need to?

 Fully agreed!

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Re: Check/Remove stray shared_memory_segment and semaphore

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still


Not necessary to use glibc-2.1, Oracle has a patch for using
with glibc-2.2.  It's on the download page for linux Oracle, it's
at technet.oracle.com.

It is a set of stubs that point 2.1 calls to 2.2 functions.  It 
requires relinking Oracle and includes instructions.

Jared


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 Look under $ORACLE_HOME/bin for oracle executable. Do you see the
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 creating the executable. If you do see the file then, check under
 $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/log for any alert messages or traces. Also, Did you
 follow the procedure to use glibc-2.1 instead of glibc-2.2 ?

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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still


Suzy,

You haven't detailed how you are search for a part of
the email address.

Is it random?  Or is it on a definable piece of the address
such as the domain name?

If so, then why not use a trigger to break the email address
down into it's separate components store them in 
separate columns?

If not, then you probably need to consider Intermedia, which 
has already been suggested.

Jared

On Friday 01 June 2001 22:15, SuzyV wrote:
 How unpleasant, the answer I expected but didn't want to hear.  At points
 of loopy desperation I've tried dumbest things to make this work, eg.,
 creating the index as lower('%email_addy%') which produces the expected
 useless result in dba_ind_expressions:

 SQL create index idx_test
 on test (lower('%email_addy%') ;

 SQL select index_name, column_expression from dba_ind_expressions
 where table_name = 'TEST'

 INDEX_NAME   COLUMN_EXPRESSION
 --   -
 IDX_TEST '%email_addy%'


 My suggested workaround to the developers is to store the string lower
 case. For some strings this is okay, but obviously not a great solution for
 strings which may be case-dependent.

 fbi = f**ing boneheaded index :)

 Suzy

 Joseph S. Testa wrote:
  i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
  that possibility to no avail.
 
  joe
 
  Rachel Carmichael wrote:
   she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do
   too, because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create
   an index that will let you search with the like clause.
  
   Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
  
   From: Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
   Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800
   
   index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.
   
   Alex Hillman
   
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
   
   
   
   I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the
query does
   a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is
there a way to create a function index for this?
   
   Here's the index and query:
   
   create index fx1_auth_users
   on auth_users (lower(current_email)
   tablespace app01_midx ;
   
   select current_email from auth_users
   where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%' ;
   
   Thanks much,
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Re: OT: Is Linux A Cancer ? well M$ thinks so ...

2001-06-02 Thread Jared Still


Same old FUD.  Try to associate your competition with 
a scary word and make them a pariah.

McCarthyism in the 50's, Balmerism in the 00's.

Jared


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NT - Re: online oracle backup on windows2000

2001-06-02 Thread Paul Drake

Arslan Bahar wrote:
 
   i wanna  to take  online backup on w2000  and i will  write a batch
 file  to perform
ALTER TABLE SPACE ...  BEGIN  BACKUP  and  END BACKUP  commands.
   but  i dont  know  how  can i sent files  to tape on command prompt.
 


you don't need to execute it in a batch file - run it from sqlplus:

alter tablespace SYSTEM begin backup;
host ocopy D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TEST\SYSTEM01.DBF G:\backup\TEST\hot\
host dbv FILE=G:\backup\TEST\hot\SYSTEM01.DBF BLOCKSIZE=8192
LOGFILE=G:\backup\TEST\HOT\SYSTEM01.LOG
host pacomp -a -c1 E:\zipfiles\TEST\hot\SYSTEM01.zip 
G:\backup\TEST\HOT\SYSTEM01.*;
host del /Q  G:\backup\TEST\hot\SYSTEM01.*;
alter tablespace SYSTEM end backup;


The bonus lines in this backup job run the DBVerify utility and then
compress the datafile.
You will need a batch file to call this file with sqlplus (which will be
executed as a scheduled job in the OS).
as far as NT Backup - here's the man page

ntbackup backup [systemstate] bks file name /J {job name} [/P {pool
name}] [/G {guid name}] [/T { tape name}] [/N {media name}] [/F
{file name}] [/D {set description}] [/DS {server name}] [/IS
{server name}] [/A] [/V:{yes|no}] [/R:{yes|no}] [/L:{f|s|n}] [/M
{backup type}] [/RS:{yes|no}] [/HC:{on|off}] [/UM] 

and here is an example job - use the GUI to schedule it at a future
time, and examine the properties of the scheduled job in he control
panel - scheduled tasks (the job won't show in an AT command - Windows
2000 only).

C:\WINNT\system32\ntbackup.exe backup @C:\Documents and
Settings\pldrake\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
NT\NTBackup\data\test_system.bks /n Media created 6/2/2001 at 6:58 PM
/d test_system /v:yes /r:no /rs:no /hc:on /m copy /j test_system
/l:f /p Travan


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Re: OT: Is Linux A Cancer ? well M$ thinks so ...

2001-06-02 Thread Paul Drake

Jared Still wrote:
 
 Same old FUD.  Try to associate your competition with
 a scary word and make them a pariah.
 
 McCarthyism in the 50's, Balmerism in the 00's.
 
 Jared
 
 On Friday 01 June 2001 14:17, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
  Read the story here
  (urlhttp://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html/url) and
  have a good laugh.
 
  LOL! TGIF
  Raj

This is not an email that I would normally post to the list - but since
its the weekend - why not?


Jared,

The GPL has been referred to as a virus previously, due to inclusion
of GPL code causing the entire piece of code (at the execution unit) to
be required to be released under the same license. 

I have a problem with this section of the article:

snip
Q: Do you view Linux and the open-source movement as a threat to
Microsoft?

A: Yeah. It's good competition. It will force us to be innovative. It
will force us to
justify the prices and value that we deliver. And that's only healthy.
The only thing
we have a problem with is when the government funds open-source work.
Government funding should be for work that is available to everybody.
Open source
is not available to commercial companies. The way the license is
written, if you use
any open-source software, you have to make the rest of your software
open source.
If the government wants to put something in the public domain, it
should. Linux is not
in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an
intellectual property
sense to everything it touches. That's the way that the license works. 
snip

Open Source != GPL.
The GPL is one license - there are many like it, many unlike it.
http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses

Here is an article by Stallman
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9911/08/freedom.GNU.idg/

Linus Torvalds chose the GPL so that no one could own Linux.
There are other licenses that can be used for Free Software or Open
Source Software, such as the LGPL, Apache and BSD Artistic License. I've
heard rumors that much of the TCP/IP stack in Windows 2000 has its
origins in FreeBSD code - licensed under the BSD license.

To Balmer - if Microsoft cannot own it - it is evil - and should not
be funded.
As not all Open Source work is licensed under the GPL, his statement is
overly broad and therefore false.

Paul
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one more question about NT bat script

2001-06-02 Thread Andrea Oracle

Hi, one more question about bat script in NT 4.0:

when I put del c:\test\*.* in the bat file, and run
it, I got Are you sure (Y/N)?, how to surpress this
question?

Thank you.

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Re: function index for like '%string%'

2001-06-02 Thread Suzy Vordos


The query allows a user to search for any token within an e-mail address:

select current_email from auth_users 
where lower(current_mail) like nls_lower('%string%') ;

Where string could be '%user%' '[EMAIL PROTECTED]%' '%@domain%', '%@host%'
etc...

Which leads me to another question: the developer feels all user input searches
should use nls_ functions.  I'm missing the point, we aren't doing
locale-specific searches so why nls_ functions?  

Jared Still wrote:
 
 Suzy,
 
 You haven't detailed how you are search for a part of
 the email address.
 
 Is it random?  Or is it on a definable piece of the address
 such as the domain name?
 
 If so, then why not use a trigger to break the email address
 down into it's separate components store them in
 separate columns?
 
 If not, then you probably need to consider Intermedia, which
 has already been suggested.
 
 Jared
 
 On Friday 01 June 2001 22:15, SuzyV wrote:
  How unpleasant, the answer I expected but didn't want to hear.  At points
  of loopy desperation I've tried dumbest things to make this work, eg.,
  creating the index as lower('%email_addy%') which produces the expected
  useless result in dba_ind_expressions:
 
  SQL create index idx_test
  on test (lower('%email_addy%') ;
 
  SQL select index_name, column_expression from dba_ind_expressions
  where table_name = 'TEST'
 
  INDEX_NAME   COLUMN_EXPRESSION
  --   -
  IDX_TEST '%email_addy%'
 
 
  My suggested workaround to the developers is to store the string lower
  case. For some strings this is okay, but obviously not a great solution for
  strings which may be case-dependent.
 
  fbi = f**ing boneheaded index :)
 
  Suzy
 
  Joseph S. Testa wrote:
   i spent about a week about 6 months ago looking for something to fill
   that possibility to no avail.
  
   joe
  
   Rachel Carmichael wrote:
she knows why it isn't being used. What Suzy wants to know (and I do
too, because I have a similar situation) is if there is a way to create
an index that will let you search with the like clause.
   
Unfortunately my gut instinct is that you can't make Oracle do that
   
From: Hillman, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: function index for like '%string%'
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:11:08 -0800

index is not used because you have leading % in the like predicate.

Alex Hillman

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



I've created a function index for lower(column_name).  However the
 query does
a like comparison rather than equality so the index isn't used.  Is
 there a way to create a function index for this?

Here's the index and query:

create index fx1_auth_users
on auth_users (lower(current_email)
tablespace app01_midx ;

select current_email from auth_users
where lower(current_email) like '%datsit.com%' ;

Thanks much,
Suzy
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2 batch jobs kill performance

2001-06-02 Thread Sam Roberts

There is a site www.hotsos.com and a paper about why 2 batch jobs kill
system performance. The paper is protected so is there anybody on the list
who can explain this, Im very curious

thanks

Sam




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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 6:15 AM


 Jared Still wrote:
 
  Same old FUD.  Try to associate your competition with
  a scary word and make them a pariah.
 
  McCarthyism in the 50's, Balmerism in the 00's.
 
  Jared
 
  On Friday 01 June 2001 14:17, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
   Read the story here
   (urlhttp://www.suntimes.com/output/tech/cst-fin-micro01.html/url)
and
   have a good laugh.
  
   LOL! TGIF
   Raj

 This is not an email that I would normally post to the list - but since
 its the weekend - why not?


 Jared,

 The GPL has been referred to as a virus previously, due to inclusion
 of GPL code causing the entire piece of code (at the execution unit) to
 be required to be released under the same license.

 I have a problem with this section of the article:

 snip
 Q: Do you view Linux and the open-source movement as a threat to
 Microsoft?

 A: Yeah. It's good competition. It will force us to be innovative. It
 will force us to
 justify the prices and value that we deliver. And that's only healthy.
 The only thing
 we have a problem with is when the government funds open-source work.
 Government funding should be for work that is available to everybody.
 Open source
 is not available to commercial companies. The way the license is
 written, if you use
 any open-source software, you have to make the rest of your software
 open source.
 If the government wants to put something in the public domain, it
 should. Linux is not
 in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an
 intellectual property
 sense to everything it touches. That's the way that the license works.
 snip

 Open Source != GPL.
 The GPL is one license - there are many like it, many unlike it.
 http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses

 Here is an article by Stallman
 http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9911/08/freedom.GNU.idg/

 Linus Torvalds chose the GPL so that no one could own Linux.
 There are other licenses that can be used for Free Software or Open
 Source Software, such as the LGPL, Apache and BSD Artistic License. I've
 heard rumors that much of the TCP/IP stack in Windows 2000 has its
 origins in FreeBSD code - licensed under the BSD license.

 To Balmer - if Microsoft cannot own it - it is evil - and should not
 be funded.
 As not all Open Source work is licensed under the GPL, his statement is
 overly broad and therefore false.

 Paul
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NT - Re: one more question about NT bat script

2001-06-02 Thread Paul Drake

Andrea Oracle wrote:
 
 Hi, one more question about bat script in NT 4.0:
 
 when I put del c:\test\*.* in the bat file, and run
 it, I got Are you sure (Y/N)?, how to surpress this
 question?
 
 Thank you.
 

del /Y 

Paul


C:\del /?
Deletes one or more files.

DEL [/P] [/F] [/S] [/Q] [/A[[:]attributes]] names
ERASE [/P] [/F] [/S] [/Q] [/A[[:]attributes]] names

  names Specifies a list of one or more files or directories.
Wildcards may be used to delete multiple files. If a
directory is specified, all files within the directory
will be deleted.

  /PPrompts for confirmation before deleting each file.
  /FForce deleting of read-only files.
  /SDelete specified files from all subdirectories.
  /QQuiet mode, do not ask if ok to delete on global
wildcard
  /ASelects files to delete based on attributes
  attributesR  Read-only filesS  System files
H  Hidden files   A  Files ready for
archiving
-  Prefix meaning not

If Command Extensions are enabled DEL and ERASE change as follows:

The display semantics of the /S switch are reversed in that it shows
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Re: OT: Is Linux A Cancer ? well M$ thinks so ...

2001-06-02 Thread Paul Drake

Here's a link to an ESR email discussing Balmer's interview:

http://lwn.net/daily/esr-big-lie.php3

In the last three months, Jim Allchin and Craig Mundie and Steve
Ballmer
have launched a classic Big Lie campaign against open source.  They 
have described it as un-American, a destroyer, and a cancer.  They
have deliberately confused the GPL with non-infectious open-source
licenses,
and they have deliberately confused active combination of code with
passive aggregation of data.  They have lied, and lied, and lied again.

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