Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

Guru's

In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.

Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?. 

Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.

Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.

Regards,
Nirmal.
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RE: Renaming GLOBAL_NAME

2001-09-19 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

Yes, i too tried still am getting the same result, meaning that, i'm not
able to remove the db_domain name in GLOBAL_NAME.

Any one have any solutions for this.

Nirmal,

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 I tried all the suggestions and the only one that worked was updating the
 global name directly to the table.
 
 Mario Alberto Ramos
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 Thank you all for your replies. I  bounced the database and still it has
 the same problem.
 
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 global_name to false:
 
 SQL select value from v$parameter where name like 'global_name%';
 
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 SQL select * from global_name;
 
 GLOBAL_NAME
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 I don't think you can do this.  GLOBAL_NAME by definition consists of
 the database name and database domain, which defaults to WORLD.
 
 Paul Baumgartel
 
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   Hi All,
  
   I am trying to rename the global_name from SIMSNT7B.WORLD to
   SIMSNT7B.
  
   I issued the following command to change the global_name.
  
   ALTER DATABASE RENAME GLOBAL_NAME TO SIMSNT7B;
  
   Still it is showing SIMSNT7B.WORLD when I query the global_name view.
   SQL select * from global_name;
  
   GLOBAL_NAME
   --
   SIMSNT7B.WORLD
  
   Values for the following parameters in v$parameter view,
   GLOBAL_NAMES  parameter value is FALSE and DB_DOMAIN parameter value
   is
   NULL.
   We are not using Oracle Names server.  I renamed SQLNET.ORA file in
   network\admin location.
   Init.ora file has global_names set to false.
  
   How do I change to SIMSNT7B?  This database is on Windows NT and it
   is
   8.1.6.
  
   Thanks in advance for your help.
  
   Best regards
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Re: Lots and lots of redo logs

2001-09-19 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I guess this test was in response to a claim that

  'you have to put your log files on the
  inner/outer/middle section of the disc
  for best response time.'

I think this demonstrates that there are never any
easy answers - and rarely any conclusive tests
other than real-life.

One thing you might want to check is whether
the average 'redo write size' increases as the
writes move through the redo logs (in the second
case).  You MIGHT be demonstrating that the original
hypothesis is true, you MIGHT be demonstrating
that in this case LGWR becomes self-balancing -
as the disc access speed increases because it buffers
more data and does bigger writes, so that the slower
seek time is hidden by a side-effect of a larger
write.

BTW - this is not a fair test of normal OLTP activity -
some experiments I've been doing recently suggest
that inside a PL/SQL loop the COMMIT does not
cause a log file sync - if you check your
redo synch writes
and
redo writes
statistics, you may find that redo synch writes is
extremely small (possibly 1, possibly 1 per log file)
and you redo writes will almost certainly be less
than the 15,000,000 commits you issued.

I'm still working on the 'commit is not a sync'
thing, but it really does seem that in pl/sql
a 'commit is complete' BEFORE lgwr has written
to disc.


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|
|Out of curiosity and as a test I scrubbed my 16Mb RAID1 array and set
it up
|again with 5 x 50Mb redo groups.  I ran the following script to
generate
|lots of redo:
|
|begin
| for i in 1..1500 loop
| insert into test_table values (mod(i,10));
| delete from test_table where anumber =
(mod(i+1,10));
| commit;
| end loop;
|end;
|
|ARCHIVELOG mode was on and the archive destination (on another disk)
was
|initially empty.
|There were 239 log switches and the test completed in 2 hours 56
minutes.
|
|I then added a further 250 50Mb redo groups, cleared the archive
|destination and ran the test again.  Again it completed in exactly 2
hours
|56 minutes, this time 240 log switches (difference of 1, I guess due
to
|whereabouts in the first log it was when the test started).
|
|v$session_wait shows permanent log file parallel write for LGWR
while the
|test runs.
|
|Any suggestions why I failed to see any slow down when I (almost)
filled
|the disk with redo groups?  (This server wasn't doing anything else
and the
|time of the test).  The RAID1 array had a Linux ext2 filesystem on it
and I
|had disabled the write cache.
|


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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Sinardy

Hi,

I think you can do that ?

Just start up both of them together



Sinardy


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Kumar Muthu Kumaran
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Guru's

In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.

Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?. 

Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.

Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.

Regards,
Nirmal.
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Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread ASHRAF SALAYMEH

Hello list,

I'm using Personal Oracle8 Database and Win98 Platform

I issued this command from Sqlplus8.0 :
 
   CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
   DATAFILE 'C:\PAYROL.ORA' SIZE 10M
SQL /

I am trying to create new tablespace Payroll but I
have got this error!


CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-19502: write error on file C:\PAYROL.ORA,
blockno 1 (blocksize=2048)
ORA-27069: skgfdisp: attempt to do I/O beyond the
range of the file
OSD-04026: Invalid parameter passed.
O/S-Error: (OS 64) The specified network name is no
longer available.


The strange is you can see the PAYROLL.ORA under C:\
Directory
After the error is displayed.

But when you query :

SQL select tablespace_name
 from dba_data_files;
 
you can find nothing, no tablespace is created at
all...

I wish someone can help me to solve this problem.

Best Regards, 
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RE: DB Names in multiple oracle installs

2001-09-19 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

You CANN'T(if not anyone correct me). Even if oracle home, version are
different, their SID name should be different.

I tested. I'm able to create two databases on one oracle server with
different SID, but at a time i can startup only one database.

REgards,
Nirmal.


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 Hi,
  
 Is it possible to call two databases the same name if they are residing on
 the same machine, in different oracle homes? ... One database is version
 8.0.6 and the other is 8.1.7.
  
 Thanks
  
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Re: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Greg Moore

Create a single index (index_a) on the two columns in ITEM (no, custsold).
Create a second index (index_b on two columns in RTNITEM (no, custrtn).

See how the query does once these indexes are created.  Then try adding
these hints to see if it's any faster:

select /*+ index_ffs(i, index_a) index_ffs(r, index_b) */
item.no
...
...
from ITEM i, RTNITEM r
...
...

Without the indexes you are forcing Oracle to do a full table scan, which is
why the query is taking so long.  In SQL*Plus, use SET AUTOTRACE ON so you
can see the plan and confirm this.

With these indexes you will see steps in the plan for the indexes that read,
either INDEX (FULL SCAN) or INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN).  If your goal is to have
the first rows of the query pop up quickly for the user, you want a FULL
SCAN of the indexes.  If your goal is to have the entire query complete in
the shortest amount of time, you want a FAST FULL SCAN of the indexes (which
is what the above hints are designed to make happen).

Use autotrace and if it still isn't working as fast as you want, copy the
explain plan and post it to this list.


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 Hi,

 I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows) and RTNITEM (is about
 20K rows)

 When I do:

 SELECT ITEM.no,
 NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
 NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)

 FROM ITEM, RTNITEM

 WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no

 GROUP BY ITEM.no;


 Time to execute above query is to long.

 I tried

 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
 SELECT no,
 NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
 FROM item
 GROUP BY no;

 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
 SELECT no,
 NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
 FROM rtnitem
 GROUP BY no;

 SELECT i.no,
 i.sold
 r.return
 FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
 WHERE i.no = r.no;

 DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
 DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;


 The result is the same, it took more than 25 minutes.

 Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of view to prevent these
two
 giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
 In this situation is that possible using inner query with where clause
again
 to prevent those giant tables combined?



 Thank you,


 Sinardy

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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

How?

I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
already started, shut it down first.

Nirmal.

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 Hi,
 
 I think you can do that ?
 
 Just start up both of them together
 
 
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 3:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Guru's
 
 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.
 
 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?.
 
 
 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
 'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.
 
 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.
 
 Regards,
 Nirmal.
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RE: Looking for 24 X 7 Design Considerations

2001-09-19 Thread O'Neill, Sean

 From: Tracy Rahmlow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:37:30 -0500
 Subject: Looking for 24 X 7 Design Considerations

We currently have 15+ databases (7.3.4  8i using IBM AIX and HACMP) that
do
not have a  24x7 restriction.  Now, management is looking to bring in new
products that will need to be 24X7.  They are looking for costs to
determine
the viability of such a decision.  I have no 24x7 experience and am
looking for
ideas or options to consider.  [At least initially they are stating there
can
be no downtime for maintenance (upgrades/reorgs)]

Tracy some other possible sources of info are:

Oracle 24x7 Tips and Techniques 0-07-211999-3

High availability Tips, Trick and Techniques for E-Commerce and other
mission... from
http://www.speakeasy.org/~jwilton/oracle.html

Some other papers at:
http://www.evdbt.com/library.htm


HTH,

Sean :)

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RE: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran

Hi ...

Might be your disk drive currpted, so that oracle unable to create the
datafile on that drive, Try do create with some
other drive. If not contact oracle support.

Nirmal.

 -Original Message-
 From: ASHRAF SALAYMEH [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:15 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Error in creating tablespace
 
 Hello list,
 
 I'm using Personal Oracle8 Database and Win98 Platform
 
 I issued this command from Sqlplus8.0 :
  
CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
DATAFILE 'C:\PAYROL.ORA' SIZE 10M
 SQL /
 
 I am trying to create new tablespace Payroll but I
 have got this error!
 
 
 CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-19502: write error on file C:\PAYROL.ORA,
 blockno 1 (blocksize=2048)
 ORA-27069: skgfdisp: attempt to do I/O beyond the
 range of the file
 OSD-04026: Invalid parameter passed.
 O/S-Error: (OS 64) The specified network name is no
 longer available.
 
 
 The strange is you can see the PAYROLL.ORA under C:\
 Directory
 After the error is displayed.
 
 But when you query :
 
 SQL select tablespace_name
  from dba_data_files;
  
 you can find nothing, no tablespace is created at
 all...
 
 I wish someone can help me to solve this problem.
 
 Best Regards, 
 Ashraf Salaymeh 
 
 
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RE: how to zip email?

2001-09-19 Thread Guy Hammond

Hi Andrea,

What I have is a separate PST file for the Oracle stuff. I have a folder
in my main mailbox, and a filter to place all ORACLE-L email in there.
Then I have an autoarchive on that to clear out things older than a few
days to the separate PST. You can create another PST using the New
option in the File menu, then you open it and it will appear alongside
the Outlook Today folder at the top level. You can drag and drop
messages between PSTs. So, all the Oracle email is eventually stored
elsewhere, and I can just unmount that file and move it around, even to
another Outlook, just like a transportable tablespace.

And in response to the other poster, it's only all in one file by
default, you can have many PSTs if you want. I find it always helps to
know what you're talking about before blaming other people for your own
ignorance. 

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Hi all, 

This is not an Oracle question, but thought peoele on
this list might know:

I saved many emails about Oracle, Unix in the
Microsoft Outlook, and I like to send these
information esle where.  I'd like to know where are
these emails stored in the local or network directory,
so I can make a zip.  (NT 4.0, Microsoft Outlook 97).

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AW: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread Schoen Volker

Is there enough space on C:?

Volker Schoen
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ASHRAF SALAYMEH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. September 2001 12:15
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Betreff: Error in creating tablespace


Hello list,

I'm using Personal Oracle8 Database and Win98 Platform

I issued this command from Sqlplus8.0 :
 
   CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
   DATAFILE 'C:\PAYROL.ORA' SIZE 10M
SQL /

I am trying to create new tablespace Payroll but I
have got this error!


CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-19502: write error on file C:\PAYROL.ORA,
blockno 1 (blocksize=2048)
ORA-27069: skgfdisp: attempt to do I/O beyond the
range of the file
OSD-04026: Invalid parameter passed.
O/S-Error: (OS 64) The specified network name is no
longer available.


The strange is you can see the PAYROLL.ORA under C:\
Directory
After the error is displayed.

But when you query :

SQL select tablespace_name
 from dba_data_files;
 
you can find nothing, no tablespace is created at
all...

I wish someone can help me to solve this problem.

Best Regards, 
Ashraf Salaymeh 


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Materialized views in RBO

2001-09-19 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: Materialized views in RBO






Our production database runs in RBO. We are evaluating the option of using Materialized views. Oracle manuals says that even if the parameter OPTIMIZER_MODE is set to RULE, the use of these features enables the CBO. Has anyone used this feature in RBO? 

We tried out materialized views in test area. The are working well in RBO, but this was just basic testing. 


rgds
amar






RE: Accept statement

2001-09-19 Thread Steven Hovington

Sure,

Here it is:

set serveroutput on;
spool d:\temp.sql;
accept var_a char prompt 'Enter new location:'
declare
   temp varchar2(520);
   i number;
   startpos number;
   cursor cur1 is select name from v_$datafile;
   local_var varchar2(100) := var_a;
begin
   DBMS_OUTPUT.ENABLE(1);
   open cur1;
   loop
  fetch cur1 into temp;
  i:= instr(temp,'\');
  startpos:= 0;
  while i0 loop
 startpos:= i+1;
 i:= instr(temp,'\',startpos);
  end loop;
  dbms_output.put_line('alter database rename file ' || temp ||
local_var ||substr(temp,startpos) ||';');
  exit when cur1%notfound;
   end loop;
   close cur1;
end;
/
spool off;

Steven H.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2001, 1:30:17 PM, you wrote:
SH I'm am trying to use an accept statement to grab some info from the user
in
SH an SQL script,
SH and then use that in a subsequent PL/SQL block.  I can do the Accept ok,
but
SH can't sem to
SH access the variable onside the block.  Can anyone point me in the right
SH direction?

Can you post the part of your script in which you are doing
this?

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Re: Where to put your redo logs

2001-09-19 Thread Connor McDonald

Interestingly I had the luxury of playing with a
out-of-the-box Solaris server the other day, so
(whilst I was meant to be configuring it :-) ), I
played around with raw volumes under plain old disk
partitions (no veritas, no sds etc).

Using straight 'dd' to copy 100m or so, partitions
starting at cylinder 1 ran about 20-25% faster than
starting at cylinder 7000 (I think) on an 18G
1rpm.

So I smacked some redo logs on the low cylinders ,
then the high ones, and crunched away as hard as I
could (in noachivelog).  I got about 8-10% improvement
in performance - I didn't bother to do any further
analysis, I'm guessing the reduction in gain was due
to other work the db had to do other then just lgwr.

The box is gone now - so I can't repeat the test. 
Still, for an high update db, it does reinforce the
ol' log files on dedicated disks on the outer bits
argument.


Cheers
Connor


 --- Jonathan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  I guess this test was in response to a claim
that
 
   'you have to put your log files on the
   inner/outer/middle section of the disc
   for best response time.'
 
 I think this demonstrates that there are never any
 easy answers - and rarely any conclusive tests
 other than real-life.
 
 One thing you might want to check is whether
 the average 'redo write size' increases as the
 writes move through the redo logs (in the second
 case).  You MIGHT be demonstrating that the original
 hypothesis is true, you MIGHT be demonstrating
 that in this case LGWR becomes self-balancing -
 as the disc access speed increases because it
 buffers
 more data and does bigger writes, so that the slower
 seek time is hidden by a side-effect of a larger
 write.
 
 BTW - this is not a fair test of normal OLTP
 activity -
 some experiments I've been doing recently suggest
 that inside a PL/SQL loop the COMMIT does not
 cause a log file sync - if you check your
 redo synch writes
 and
 redo writes
 statistics, you may find that redo synch writes is
 extremely small (possibly 1, possibly 1 per log
 file)
 and you redo writes will almost certainly be less
 than the 15,000,000 commits you issued.
 
 I'm still working on the 'commit is not a sync'
 thing, but it really does seem that in pl/sql
 a 'commit is complete' BEFORE lgwr has written
 to disc.
 
 
 Jonathan Lewis
 http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
 
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 |
 |Out of curiosity and as a test I scrubbed my 16Mb
 RAID1 array and set
 it up
 |again with 5 x 50Mb redo groups.  I ran the
 following script to
 generate
 |lots of redo:
 |
 |begin
 | for i in 1..1500 loop
 | insert into test_table values
 (mod(i,10));
 | delete from test_table where
 anumber =
 (mod(i+1,10));
 | commit;
 | end loop;
 |end;
 |
 |ARCHIVELOG mode was on and the archive destination
 (on another disk)
 was
 |initially empty.
 |There were 239 log switches and the test completed
 in 2 hours 56
 minutes.
 |
 |I then added a further 250 50Mb redo groups,
 cleared the archive
 |destination and ran the test again.  Again it
 completed in exactly 2
 hours
 |56 minutes, this time 240 log switches (difference
 of 1, I guess due
 to
 |whereabouts in the first log it was when the test
 started).
 |
 |v$session_wait shows permanent log file parallel
 write for LGWR
 while the
 |test runs.
 |
 |Any suggestions why I failed to see any slow down
 when I (almost)
 filled
 |the disk with redo groups?  (This server wasn't
 doing anything else
 and the
 |time of the test).  The RAID1 array had a Linux
 ext2 filesystem on it
 and I
 |had disabled the write cache.
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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Sinardy

Hi,

I think you must do something like

startup pfile=...

pfile is your parameter file for 2nd db(your initSID.ora)

That error message mean that Oracle try to start db1 again...



Sinardy



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How?

I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
already started, shut it down first.

Nirmal.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sinardy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:40 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

 Hi,

 I think you can do that ?

 Just start up both of them together



 Sinardy


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 3:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Guru's

 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.

 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?.


 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
 'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.

 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.

 Regards,
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RE: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Error in creating tablespace





Is there sufficient space on the C: drive. How big is the file that has been created. If it is less than 10M that may be your problem

John


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From: ASHRAF SALAYMEH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 September 01 11:15
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Error in creating tablespace



Hello list,


I'm using Personal Oracle8 Database and Win98 Platform


I issued this command from Sqlplus8.0 :

 CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
 DATAFILE 'C:\PAYROL.ORA' SIZE 10M
SQL /


I am trying to create new tablespace Payroll but I
have got this error!



CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-19502: write error on file C:\PAYROL.ORA,
blockno 1 (blocksize=2048)
ORA-27069: skgfdisp: attempt to do I/O beyond the
range of the file
OSD-04026: Invalid parameter passed.
O/S-Error: (OS 64) The specified network name is no
longer available.



The strange is you can see the PAYROLL.ORA under C:\
Directory
After the error is displayed.


But when you query :


SQL select tablespace_name
 from dba_data_files;

you can find nothing, no tablespace is created at
all...


I wish someone can help me to solve this problem.


Best Regards, 
Ashraf Salaymeh 



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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread wolfgang . ludewig


how do you start the database ?
with the servermanager ??

If you do so, so you have to set the
variable for the SID value on the value of the
other instance.

On Unix-maschines it looks like:

ORACLE_SID=new_sid
export ORACLE_SID

Then you are able to start the second instance.


Wolfgang Ludewig




   
 
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How?

I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
already started, shut it down first.

Nirmal.

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 Hi,

 I think you can do that ?

 Just start up both of them together



 Sinardy


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 3:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Guru's

 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.

 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same
server?.


 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the
sid
 'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.

 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.

 Regards,
 Nirmal.
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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Nirmal,

Change your Oracle_Sid environmental.

Like (from the DOS prompt):

*** Starting the first instance
set oracle_sid=sid1
sqlplus internal/pwd
startup
exit;

*** Starting the second instance
set oracle_sid=sid2
sqlplus internal/pwd
startup
exit;

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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How?

I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
already started, shut it down first.

Nirmal.

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 From: Sinardy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:40 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server
 
 Hi,
 
 I think you can do that ?
 
 Just start up both of them together
 
 
 
 Sinardy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Kumar Muthu Kumaran
 Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 3:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Guru's
 
 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.
 
 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?.
 
 
 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
 'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.
 
 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.
 
 Regards,
 Nirmal.
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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread JOE TESTA



are you changing your oracle_sid between each startup? --i know 
an obvious question.

joe
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How?I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it 
says, "Cann't start -already started, shut it down 
first".Nirmal. -Original Message- 
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RE: List of changed objects in the DB

2001-09-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Thanks Nick, but this is one time activity  so I am looking for simpler
solutions.

Thanks
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you might want to take a look at Schema Manager from Quest Software
(www.quest.com)...  it will not only show you what has changed since the
last time you used it... but also build you the code to apply and rollback
those changes to different systems...  for use when migrating changes from
dev to test to pilot and then on to production.   It's a great product for
change management.  
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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread Denham Eva

Hi,

It looks as though you are trying to start the instance from svrmgrl?
In that case, use the SET ORACLE_SID=SIDNAME, to force the oracle name
before you start svrmgrl.
Or try in svrmgrl: connect internal @SIDNAME

Another way of doing this is re-create the services using oradim and set
starttype to srv,inst.
e.g. C:\ ORADIM - STARTUP -SID SID -USERPWD PASSWORD -STARTTYPE SRV,INST 
That way all you have to do is start the service from service manager and
both the service and the instance will start.

I hope that helps
Denham :)

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How?

I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
already started, shut it down first.

Nirmal.

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 I think you can do that ?
 
 Just start up both of them together
 
 
 
 Sinardy
 
 
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 Guru's
 
 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.
 
 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same server?.
 
 
 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the sid
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 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.
 
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Temp extent sizes and Strange performance problem

2001-09-19 Thread Cherie_Machler


I posted earlier about my SQL statement that overnight went from less than
2 minutes to about 25 minutes on our nightly data warehouse loads.   We
used RMAN to move an exact copy of the database from before the process
started running long to a different unix box.   After running sql_trace and
tkprof on the SQL statement in question (see below) on both the current and
pre-problem database, the execution times were similar and the explain
plans were identical except for minor differences in the number of rows
returned.

I then looked at all of the initialization parameters and they look the
same except that we created the rman copy with a smaller shared pool (due
to resource constraints on the box we moved the copy to).

One thing that I noticed was that the extent sizes for the TEMP tablespace
is different.   The day that we started having this problem, we had a disk
failure.   The TEMP tablespace was on the failed disk.  Another DBA dropped
the TEMP tablespace and recreated it on a different disk (apparently with a
larger extent size).   The current next_extent size is 4194304.   The
next_extent size on the pre-problem TEMP tablespace is  40960.

Is it possible that this difference in extent size in the TEMP tablespace
could cause a ten-fold degradation in performance?

Cherie


   
   
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Did you check to see if there is anything else running on the server that
might take
resource away from Oracle?  It has happened to me once that the SA was
running something that he shouldn't and it's using a lot of system
resources.

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I have a nightly load job that was being tracked by our developers.
According to their nightly logs (going back months), a query was running
as far back as they can record with a sub-second response time.

Then on a particular date (Aug. 23rd), the query started taking more
than 20 minutes to complete.   It has taken that long to complete ever
since.

I looked at the explain plan and it looks o.k.   Indexes are being used
and there are no suspicious full table scans.  The init.ora file has not
changed
since then.

We restored a full copy of the database to an alternate host using rman.
It should be an exact copy as of Aug. 16th.   I ran the query on the copy
and
on the current production database and the resulting explain plans were
identical except for the number of rows returned.   Total execution time
and cpu times were similar.

I looked through our change documentation and I do not see any record
of data structure changes or any data changes at all in the database
in question.

I am sort of at a loss for what to try next.   What sort of changes might
cause such an extreme degradation in performance as this?

This is an 8.1.7 database on Sun Solaris 2.8.  The optimization is
rule-based.
No partitioning.   Database is about 80 Gig in size.   Following is the
explain
plan, if anyone is interested:

SELECT ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.LOGIN_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.ACCT_GRP_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.RPT_PROF_ID,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.INS_DT_TM,
ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW.UPD_DT_TM
FROM GELCO.ACTV_EAS_PERS_RPT_PROF_VIEW

call 

RE: Lots and lots of redo logs

2001-09-19 Thread Shevtsov, Eduard

  
  BTW - this is not a fair test of normal OLTP activity -
  some experiments I've been doing recently suggest
  that inside a PL/SQL loop the COMMIT does not
  cause a log file sync - if you check your
  redo synch writes
  and
  redo writes
  statistics, you may find that redo synch writes is
  extremely small (possibly 1, possibly 1 per log file)
  and you redo writes will almost certainly be less
  than the 15,000,000 commits you issued.
  
  I'm still working on the 'commit is not a sync'
  thing, but it really does seem that in pl/sql
  a 'commit is complete' BEFORE lgwr has written
  to disc.
  

Jonathan,

please, keep us in touch with the results (if any)

Regards,
Ed
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RE: Good/Cheap Backup Agent?

2001-09-19 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Walter,

Ruth's suggestion is still a good one.  You can use Rman to backup to disk,
and then simply copy the Rman files to tape.  You get all of the
recoverability using RMan, without having to purchase the 3rd party tape
interface product (like Legato, Edm etc.).

Your costs are : 
  probably an additional disk drive to hold Rman backups
  Your time to develop and test Rman scripts.  
  Developing Rman scripts will be very easy - there are only a 
  couple of hundred people on this list using Rman, and we all share!

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
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I neglected to mention that we're trying to backup to
tape. I'm not sure what is involved with configuring a
media manager for Oracle that will allow Rman to work
with a tape drive but it would seem to me at that
point I'm into a 3rd party solution anyway. Yes? No?  

What does it take to get a tape drive to work with
RMAN? If a 3rd party solution is better, then I'm back
to inquiring about an inexpensive, but useful,
solution.

Thanks.
-w

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 Ruth
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  but we're looking to have the agent/client hosted
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  an NT box (because it appears to be cheaper that
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  What are your recommendations? Do all of the
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  Thanks!
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RE: Two Instances at one oracle Server

2001-09-19 Thread tday6

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I started first one, then i try to startup 2nd, it says, Cann't start -
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 Hi,

 I think you can do that ?

 Just start up both of them together



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 Guru's

 In my test oracle server, i created two different database with SID
 'orclsvr' and 'ora817'.

 Is't possisle to create two oracle database instances on the same
server?.


 Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for the
sid
 'orclsvr' or 'ora817'.

 Oracle Server 817 on Win NT4 based.

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RE: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-19 Thread Ramon Estevez

Hi,
Someone posted the past week the solution of something like that.

He referred to create package and pass the date as a parameter to it
and have a procedure, inside the package, that create the view using
the parameter date.

That what I can recall.

Good luck,


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Asunto: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.


I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some data in our
database.

This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of work, I am stumped.

Given table 'table1'
   code1,
   code2,
   date,
   value1,
   value2

I need to produce a view showing
   code1,
   code2,
   sum(value1),
   sum(value2)
  where date  'user input date'

I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date to limit the sum
by.

Specifics:
  Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
  Server:  Unix

What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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RE: Determining Oracle status - thanks!

2001-09-19 Thread Barry Deevey

Hi all,

I did have a look for oiconnect, but it doesn't seem to there with 8.1.7 -
But you've given me more than enough to go with! 

Thanks for all of your replies they're very much appreciated.

Best Regards,
Barry.

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 tnsping $ORACLE_SID works pretty well...   
 
 Nick 
 
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 Subject: Determining Oracle status 
 
 
 Hi all, 
 
 I am trying to write a script in unix that determines if a specific oracle
 
 instance is available. I'm trying to avoid using the 'ps' command, so I 
 thought the easiest method would be to connect via sqlplus - If it
 connects 
 its up, if it doesn't then its unavailable. However, the problem is that 
 when it isn't up, the script hangs and does not return anything - I think 
 that this is because sqlplus by default gives you 3 attempts to logon, so 
 even though the logon attempt failed, it is waiting for you to try again,
 so 
 unfortunately I'm not getting a failed return code. 
 If anybody could tell me how to change this so that it only allows 1 login
 
 attempt before 'kicking you out' or whether there is a better method to 
 finding out the status of an instance, I would be extremely grateful to
 hear 
 from you. 
 
 TIA for any responses. 
 
 Best Regards, 
 Barry. 
 
 
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RE: Compiling package

2001-09-19 Thread Christopher Spence

Did he try the SQL*Plus on your machine or his?  Perhaps try SQL*Plus on the
same machine if you have not already.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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  Hello guru  


  I need help on this , I got 2 database reside in 2 server , 1 is a AIX
-server , another is a winnt server , 
everything go smooth when I compile my package( which consist of 10
procedure , 10 function inside)in the winnt server , but when I move my
package to another testing server , once I open the package my TOAD slow for
a while ,and further when I compile the whole package ..it look stop for
5-10 minute and refresh back to normal status.

 When I ask my DBA , he compile it straight from sqlplus and under
Enterprise manage console , directly w/o any delay . I ask him to try on my
user name also the same...fast...

 He said it might be my TOAD problem , I try to install again my TOAD..it
still work back the same ? Any idea how can I troubleshoot it ?
 

Best Regard 
Raymond Lee
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RE: Internal troublemaker

2001-09-19 Thread Guy Hammond

Use the WRAP command.

g



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Hi all,


How to ensure our scripts are not changeable by other user, unix and sql
script.
I remember some unix guru said I need Pro C

Can I use embedded Java




Sinardy

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RE: sizeiof table!!!

2001-09-19 Thread Christopher Spence

Select sum(bytes) / 1048576 Size in Mb
  From dba_extents
 Where owner = upper('owner')
   and segment_name = upper('tablename');

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Hi gurus, 
I need get the size in bytes of any table!!!

thanks!!!

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RE: 9i D/l

2001-09-19 Thread Steve . Parker


Mark,

Perhaps Oracle have an A and B list.  The A list are told as soon as its
out, so they can download it
quickly.  Then the larger B list is told, and they struggle to download it
due to demand :-)

I too registered to be told when 9i was available for W2k; as soon as I
heard about it on the list yesterday morining
I started GetRight to download it.  When I came in at Lunchtime today it
was all downloaded - I was amazed !

Good luck and I hope someone else pays your phone bill!

Steve Parker
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Please respond 

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You know, this list is the greatest! I specifically submitted my name to
the
OTN site, to be told *apparently* as soon as the version I am interested
in
is released - which was 9i for Win2K. Guess what? The first I hear of this
being released was HERE!! Still haven't heard anything from Oracle!!

Now all I have to do is log on for 3 weeks to try and download it over my
56k modem :)

RANT

I can't believe that that the download is over a GIG in size!! 8.1.7 was
only close to 600 or so meg! We can't get Broadband services here either!
In
a CITY! Though I hear of people all around the country (even residencies)
and small TOWNS etc. that can get ADSL, but here we are in a CITY and a
BUSINESS wanting to get the service, and BT can't supply it to us!! Neither
can NTL, because BT haven't installed it in our exchange!! Did I mention we
are in a CITY?!?!

Grumble grumble, moan, grumble, humph...

/RANT

Mark

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I think you just have to keep trying.  Maybe at different times.  I
experienced the same as you but with the 9i for Linux download.

HTH
Gerardo

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Hi List

Have any of you been successful in d/lng 9i for NT from technet ?? I am
getting Server not found.  Is there any other mirror fromwhich I can d/l ??

TIA

Srini

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RE: DB Names in multiple oracle installs

2001-09-19 Thread tday6

They could have the same database name but different SIDs.  But I think
that you're right.  I think that he means SID.  They can have a different
ORACLE_HOME in the listner.ora file and a different connect siring in the
TNSNAMES.ORA file (along with a different ORACLE_HOME).  I'm not sure if
that would be enough to differentiate them though.  If you're in a UNIX
environment there's still the question of ORACLE_SID.


   

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You CANN'T(if not anyone correct me). Even if oracle home, version are
different, their SID name should be different.

I tested. I'm able to create two databases on one oracle server with
different SID, but at a time i can startup only one database.

REgards,
Nirmal.


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 Is it possible to call two databases the same name if they are residing
on
 the same machine, in different oracle homes? ... One database is version
 8.0.6 and the other is 8.1.7.

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RE: sizeiof table!!!

2001-09-19 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Does anyone have a script that gives actual space used instead of size of
extents allocated?

Thanks
Rick

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Select sum(bytes) / 1048576 Size in Mb
  From dba_extents
 Where owner = upper('owner')
   and segment_name = upper('tablename');

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
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Hi gurus, 
I need get the size in bytes of any table!!!

thanks!!!

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RE: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Rao, Maheswara

If you are on 8i, then use, parallel option. If this option is not set,
then, you need to put the following parameter in your init.ora and then
bounce the db.  The parameter is --- PARALLEL_MIN_SERVERS.  Give a value of
30 initially.

Then, give a hint in your statement for parallel (Please see the manual for
exact syntax. Off hand, could not tell you).

Then try your query.  If you observe significant time difference, then, set
other PARALLEL parameters in init.ora to optimize your system.

Rao,
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try nested query in place of sort join method...

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Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:10 am

 Try to use Index for big table ITEM
 To avoid full table scan.
 
 Create index item_index on item(no);
 
 This will speed the process...
 
 --- Sinardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows)
  and RTNITEM (is about
  20K rows)
  
  When I do:
  
  SELECT ITEM.no,
   NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
   NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)
  
  FROM ITEM, RTNITEM
  
  WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no
  
  GROUP BY ITEM.no;
  
  
  Time to execute above query is to long.
  
  I tried
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
  FROM item
  GROUP BY no;
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
  FROM rtnitem
  GROUP BY no;
  
  SELECT i.no,
   i.sold
   r.return
  FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
  WHERE i.no = r.no;
  
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;
  
  
  The result is the same, it took more than 25
  minutes.
  
  Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of
  view to prevent these two
  giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
  In this situation is that possible using inner query
  with where clause again
  to prevent those giant tables combined?
  
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  
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Re: Temp extent sizes and Strange performance problem

2001-09-19 Thread Connor McDonald

Its unlikely - but is it possible you had a tempfile
before and now a datafile for TEMP?

hth
connor

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 2 minutes to about 25 minutes on our nightly data
 warehouse loads.   We
 used RMAN to move an exact copy of the database from
 before the process
 started running long to a different unix box.  
 After running sql_trace and
 tkprof on the SQL statement in question (see below)
 on both the current and
 pre-problem database, the execution times were
 similar and the explain
 plans were identical except for minor differences in
 the number of rows
 returned.
 
 I then looked at all of the initialization
 parameters and they look the
 same except that we created the rman copy with a
 smaller shared pool (due
 to resource constraints on the box we moved the copy
 to).
 
 One thing that I noticed was that the extent sizes
 for the TEMP tablespace
 is different.   The day that we started having this
 problem, we had a disk
 failure.   The TEMP tablespace was on the failed
 disk.  Another DBA dropped
 the TEMP tablespace and recreated it on a different
 disk (apparently with a
 larger extent size).   The current next_extent size
 is 4194304.   The
 next_extent size on the pre-problem TEMP tablespace
 is  40960.
 
 Is it possible that this difference in extent size
 in the TEMP tablespace
 could cause a ten-fold degradation in performance?
 
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 Did you check to see if there is anything else
 running on the server that
 might take
 resource away from Oracle?  It has happened to me
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 I have a nightly load job that was being tracked by
 our developers.
 According to their nightly logs (going back months),
 a query was running
 as far back as they can record with a sub-second
 response time.
 
 Then on a particular date (Aug. 23rd), the query
 started taking more
 than 20 minutes to complete.   It has taken that
 long to complete ever
 since.
 
 I looked at the explain plan and it looks o.k.  
 Indexes are being used
 and there are no suspicious full table scans.  The
 init.ora file has not
 changed
 since then.
 
 We restored a full copy of the database to an
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 the query on the copy
 and
 on the current production database and the resulting
 explain plans were
 identical except for the number of rows returned.  
 Total execution time
 and cpu times were similar.
 
 I looked through our change documentation and I do
 not see any record
 of data structure changes or any data changes at all
 in the database
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 I am sort of at a loss for what to try next.   What
 sort of changes might
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RE: sizeiof table!!!

2001-09-19 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Rick  Lex,

Have you tried the:

DBMS_SPACE.unused_space package?

It gives used and unused number of bytes and blocks for an item.  Below is
the syntax:


  PROCEDURE unused_space(segment_owner IN VARCHAR2, 
 segment_name IN VARCHAR2,
 segment_type IN VARCHAR2,
 total_blocks OUT NUMBER,
 total_bytes OUT NUMBER,
 unused_blocks OUT NUMBER,
 unused_bytes OUT NUMBER,
 last_used_extent_file_id OUT NUMBER,
 last_used_extent_block_id OUT NUMBER,
 last_used_block OUT NUMBER,
 partition_name IN VARCHAR2 DEFAULT NULL
 );
  PRAGMA RESTRICT_REFERENCES(unused_space,WNDS);

  --  Returns information about unused space in an object (table, index,
  --or cluster).
  --  Input arguments:
  --   segment_owner  
  --  schema name of the segment to be analyzed
  --   segment_name  
  --  object name of the segment to be analyzed
  --   partition_name  
  --  partition name of the segment to be analyzed
  --   segment_type  
  --  type of the segment to be analyzed (TABLE, INDEX, or CLUSTER)
  --  Output arguments:
  --   total_blocks  
  --  total number of blocks in the segment
  --   total_bytes  
  --  the same as above, expressed in bytes
  --   unused_blocks  
  --  number of blocks which are not used 
  --   unused_bytes  
  --  the same as above, expressed in bytes
  --   last_used_extent_file_id 
  --  the file ID of the last extent which contains data
  --   last_used_extent_block_id 
  --  the block ID of the last extent which contains data
  --   last_used_block  
  --  the last block within this extent which contains data


Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Does anyone have a script that gives actual space used instead of size of
extents allocated?

Thanks
Rick

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Select sum(bytes) / 1048576 Size in Mb
  From dba_extents
 Where owner = upper('owner')
   and segment_name = upper('tablename');

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Hi gurus, 
I need get the size in bytes of any table!!!

thanks!!!

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RE: sizeiof table!!!

2001-09-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: sizeiof table!!!





Here's a modification of one that I use


1 select
2 tablespace_name, MB_FREE, MB_TOTAL,mb_total-mb_free mb_used,
3 round((MB_TOTAL-MB_FREE)/MB_TOTAL*1000)/10 pct_used
4 from
5 (select tablespace_name, trunc(sum(free_bytes/1024)) MB_FREE , sum(total_bytes/1024) MB_TOTAL
6 from
7 (
8 (select tablespace_name, sum(bytes)/1024 free_bytes,
9 00 total_bytes
10 from dba_free_space
11 group by tablespace_name)
12 union
13 (select t.tablespace_name tablespace_name,
14 00 free_bytes,
15 sum(d.bytes)/1024 total_bytes
16 from
17 dba_tablespaces t, dba_data_files d
18 where t.tablespace_name = d.tablespace_name
19 group by t.tablespace_name)
20 )
21 group by tablespace_name)
22 --where mb_free  200
23* order by 1


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Does anyone have a script that gives actual space used instead of size of
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Thanks
Rick


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Select sum(bytes) / 1048576 Size in Mb
 From dba_extents
Where owner = upper('owner')
 and segment_name = upper('tablename');


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Hi gurus, 
I need get the size in bytes of any table!!!


thanks!!!


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RE: List of changed objects in the DB

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Leith

Raj,

If this is the case, then why not take a look at the column in front of
last_ddl_timestamp - created - assuming you are getting this from the
all_objects view..? Just select * from all_objects where object type = ...
and created =  whatever..

Will this work for you?

Mark

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Hi all,

is it possible to identify only those objects that have changed since a
given date? Wait ... I know last_ddl_timestamp but we would like to EXCLUDE
stored code which has been recompiled and INCLUDE only those procedures/
functions/ packages that were created.

any ideas?

TIA
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RE: 9i D/l

2001-09-19 Thread Mark Leith

Well, that's gotta be right!! I must be on the B or C list :( (:))

The last time we downloaded (8.1.7) the 580mb file took us two days to
download :( Due to the line dropping and having to be restarted etc. So I
can't imagine how long it would take for 1.1gig!

Luckily an EXTREMELY gracious list member (they know who they are) has
downloaded from a high speed line they have available to them, and is going
to ship the cds over to me!

THANKS AGAIN!! :)

Mark

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Mark,

Perhaps Oracle have an A and B list.  The A list are told as soon as its
out, so they can download it
quickly.  Then the larger B list is told, and they struggle to download it
due to demand :-)

I too registered to be told when 9i was available for W2k; as soon as I
heard about it on the list yesterday morining
I started GetRight to download it.  When I came in at Lunchtime today it
was all downloaded - I was amazed !

Good luck and I hope someone else pays your phone bill!

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You know, this list is the greatest! I specifically submitted my name to
the
OTN site, to be told *apparently* as soon as the version I am interested
in
is released - which was 9i for Win2K. Guess what? The first I hear of this
being released was HERE!! Still haven't heard anything from Oracle!!

Now all I have to do is log on for 3 weeks to try and download it over my
56k modem :)

RANT

I can't believe that that the download is over a GIG in size!! 8.1.7 was
only close to 600 or so meg! We can't get Broadband services here either!
In
a CITY! Though I hear of people all around the country (even residencies)
and small TOWNS etc. that can get ADSL, but here we are in a CITY and a
BUSINESS wanting to get the service, and BT can't supply it to us!! Neither
can NTL, because BT haven't installed it in our exchange!! Did I mention we
are in a CITY?!?!

Grumble grumble, moan, grumble, humph...

/RANT

Mark

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I think you just have to keep trying.  Maybe at different times.  I
experienced the same as you but with the 9i for Linux download.

HTH
Gerardo

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Hi List

Have any of you been successful in d/lng 9i for NT from technet ?? I am
getting Server not found.  Is there any other mirror fromwhich I can d/l ??

TIA

Srini

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RE: List of changed objects in the DB

2001-09-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Mark,

doesn't created refers to when the object was created? I am looking for
things that have changed but exclude recompiled objects.

Maybe I am not clear in describing the problem ...

Thanks for the help
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How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Reinhold Wagner

Hi all,

we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux. 
We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline 
backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

After creating the new control file on the target system the database 
could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file 
isn't really a data file!

This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of 
round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

TIA

Reinhold Wagner

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RE: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Reinhold - My sympathy is with you. I would think that Oracle data files are
basically binaries, so just moving them wouldn't work between dissimilar
systems. A couple of other ideas for you:
If you were on a newer Oracle version, you could try transportable
tablespaces.
I would tune the receiving database for import speed. Turn off
archiving. Large log buffers, etc.
Full export without the rows, import that in the new system.
Create a database link between the two (my studies have shown that
to be the fastest, but other people may report better luck with other
methods, depending on factors like your network speed) and use SQL*Net COPY
to move them, committing as you go. Unfortunately, if it bombs off in the
middle of a table, you have to do that table again. For your largest tables,
you may want to pick a data key like year and do a year at a time.
Good luck.

Dennis Williams
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Hi all,

we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux. 
We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline 
backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

After creating the new control file on the target system the database 
could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file 
isn't really a data file!

This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of 
round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

TIA

Reinhold Wagner

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RE: CLOB trigger problem

2001-09-19 Thread Godlewski, Melissa

Is the transaction committed by the client prior to your using the CLOB
PL/SQL?

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Dear listers,

I am trying to copy an updated CLOB from a table in one database (let's call
it A) to the equivalent table in another database (called B just to be
original).  I have written triggers and procedures to do this (one package
on each database), and I am passing the contents of the CLOB to the remote
update procedure as VARCHAR fields in a PL/SQL table.   

Everything works perfectly well when I run an update against table A.  I am
connecting via TOAD and am logged on to Oracle as the schema owner.  The
contents of the CLOB are retrieved, passed across and used to update the
remote table.

When the client updates the CLOB in table A, however, the select statement
in my package on database A which 'locates' the CLOB, retrieves a CLOB of
zero length.  No exception occurs in the Select statement.  The client's
update succeeds on table A, and my package sends an empty PL/SQL table to
the remote procedure (and the CLOB on the remote table is duly erased). The
client is connecting through an ASP-driven web interface via IIS, which as
far as I can tell is also logging on to Oracle as the schema owner.

Anyone encountered this sort of behaviour before?  I've just about run out
of ideas.  If I can't solve this by direct means I can probably do something
kludgy like launch the remote update as a background process via
DBMS_JOB.SUBMIT, but I'd far rather have it under transactional control.

Oracle version is 8.1.6.3 on both databases.

Can supply contents of triggers etc. if needed. 

Cheers,
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RE: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Christopher Spence

You cannot move data files from one OS to a different one due to the
differences in how they write to files.

Import and Export is generally the accepted way to do this.

Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.

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Hi all,

we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux. 
We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline 
backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

After creating the new control file on the target system the database 
could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file 
isn't really a data file!

This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of 
round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

TIA

Reinhold Wagner

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RE: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Khedr, Waleed

EXPORT  IMPORT (could be done in parallel: many export  import sessions
for different schemas or tables).

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Hi all,

we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux. 
We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline 
backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

After creating the new control file on the target system the database 
could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file 
isn't really a data file!

This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of 
round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

TIA

Reinhold Wagner

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RE: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Jared,

Can you check that my email is actually getting through to the list. I
realise this is a bit dumb, cause if you get this then it is...but I can't
actually see any of my mails when and if they hit the list. I used to be
able to but no more... :(

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Re: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Steven Lembark



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 This means i have to do an export/import!

Yup.  If you have sufficient disk+cpu capacity you can export and
import multiple tables at once, if the database is partitioned you
may be able to unload multiple partitions at once.

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Re: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Richard Ji

You can't use backup and restore to move a database between different platforms.
A while ago, someone on this list posted a message that he/she was going to make
a tool that allows this to happen.  But until then, you will have to do export and 
import.

Richard Ji

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/01 12:46PM 
Hi all,

we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux. 
We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline 
backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

After creating the new control file on the target system the database 
could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file 
isn't really a data file!

This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of 
round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

TIA

Reinhold Wagner

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RE: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Title: RE: Error in creating tablespace





Kevin,


I am replying to the list and to you directly, you are getting through to the list. I think there is a way to set up the subscription such that you don't get your own mails.

In any case, you will definitely get one answer. you should get this twice


Rachel


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Jared,


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export with filesize option, dump file size estimation

2001-09-19 Thread Chen, Bill
Title: export with filesize option, dump file size estimation





any idea on how to estimate the export dump file size without doing an actual export (not even to /dev/null)? 
the idea is to use filesize option of export utility to export db to several files. 
i am aware of using pipe/split to do large export. 


thanks, bill 





Upgrade Oracle from 8.1.7 Release 3 to 9.0.1

2001-09-19 Thread Josef Huber



Hello i want to upgrade my database from 8.1.7 to 
9.0.1
system: windows 2000 server sp1
2 oracle database instances

i've installed the oracle 9i software on the server 
(seperate home ..)
now i want to the update via the oracle data 
migration assistant i specify my password and my correct path to initxxx.ora 
file
then i click next and become the following error 
tns-12560 ...
my network configuration works because i can 
connect to my database !

when i start svrmgrl on the command line i become 
the same error tns-12560
when i do "connect internal/pwd@dbtest" it works 
!
i've allready set the oracle_sid parameter in the 
registry !

any ideas ?


Re: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Don Granaman

I don't know if the method of moving data files will work or not.  Since you are
on Oracle 8.0.x, transportable tablespaces aren't an option.  However, there are
several other options that I have used.  None are particularly easy though!

One is to export/import via a named pipe - running multiple jobs of several
tables each in parallel with indexes=N and constraints=N on the export, then
building the indexes and constraints on the target as the exports finish.  This
is, in my experience, a lot faster that full export/import and significantly
faster that table-level export/import with indexes  constraints.  It is a lot
more work to set up to optimize the process though - users, roles, grants,
indexes, constraints, stored code, views, sequences, etc. all have to be handled
outside the table exports/imports that just move the data.

Another is to use the SQL copy command - again running multiple jobs in parallel
and building indexes and constraints as tables are completed on the target.
This involves the same kind of considerations as above.

Both are much more labor-intensive than normal exports (with indexes and
constraints), but are also significantly faster.  I have moved several 120-200+
GB databases concurrently from Oracle7 in one data center to Oracle8i in a new
data center 200 miles away using these techniques and all were completed and
back up in under 12 hours.  Timing, coordination and practice are critical.  In
our case, I had over a month (part-time) to rehearse, refine and tune the
migration.

Staging, if possible is very beneficial.  Sometimes the largest tables are
static except during specific batch activity.  If so, you might be able to
schedule the migration so that these can start during a batch window and well
before others - reducing the downtime for the move.  In one such case, a 250 GB
database with about 75% historical data updated only in batch, total migration
time was over 16 hours but downtime was less than an hour.

-Don Granaman
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 we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux.
 We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline
 backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

 After creating the new control file on the target system the database
 could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file
 isn't really a data file!

 This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of
 round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

 TIA

 Reinhold Wagner

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Re: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Anjan Thakuria

On the same lines I think I had seen on the list some time back a script to
import from an export into a named pipe. It was supposed to be very fast. I
am shell script challenged. Essentially it was exported into a named pipe
which was simultaneously imported. Maybe the author can post it again.



Khedr, Waleed wrote:

 EXPORT  IMPORT (could be done in parallel: many export  import sessions
 for different schemas or tables).

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 we have to move a 135 GB Oracle 8.0.6 database from Solaris 7 to Linux.
 We tried a simple restore of the database files from the last offline
 backup (tape) as we did it many times between equal systems.

 After creating the new control file on the target system the database
 could not be started, becaue Oracle thinks that the system data file
 isn't really a data file!

 This means i have to do an export/import! I assume an export time of
 round about 10 hrs. Is there any easier way?

 TIA

 Reinhold Wagner

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RE: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

I thought that hash_join was supposed to be best where you had one table
much smaller than the other.  As there are no restrictions on the data being
brought back what is wrong with doing a full table scan of each?.  

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try nested query in place of sort join method...

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Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:10 am

 Try to use Index for big table ITEM
 To avoid full table scan.
 
 Create index item_index on item(no);
 
 This will speed the process...
 
 --- Sinardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows)
  and RTNITEM (is about
  20K rows)
  
  When I do:
  
  SELECT ITEM.no,
   NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
   NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)
  
  FROM ITEM, RTNITEM
  
  WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no
  
  GROUP BY ITEM.no;
  
  
  Time to execute above query is to long.
  
  I tried
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
  FROM item
  GROUP BY no;
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
  FROM rtnitem
  GROUP BY no;
  
  SELECT i.no,
   i.sold
   r.return
  FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
  WHERE i.no = r.no;
  
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;
  
  
  The result is the same, it took more than 25
  minutes.
  
  Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of
  view to prevent these two
  giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
  In this situation is that possible using inner query
  with where clause again
  to prevent those giant tables combined?
  
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  
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RE: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Doh!.  

I guess I should have looked at what the table names suggest the restriction
is.

Sorry!

Iain Nicoll

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I thought that hash_join was supposed to be best where you had one table
much smaller than the other.  As there are no restrictions on the data being
brought back what is wrong with doing a full table scan of each?.  

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


try nested query in place of sort join method...

- Original Message -
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:10 am

 Try to use Index for big table ITEM
 To avoid full table scan.
 
 Create index item_index on item(no);
 
 This will speed the process...
 
 --- Sinardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have 2 big tables, ITEM (is about 1 million rows)
  and RTNITEM (is about
  20K rows)
  
  When I do:
  
  SELECT ITEM.no,
   NVL(SUM(ITEM.CUSTSOLD), 0),
   NVL(SUM(RTNITEM.CUSTRTN)
  
  FROM ITEM, RTNITEM
  
  WHERE ITEM.no=RTNITEM.no
  
  GROUP BY ITEM.no;
  
  
  Time to execute above query is to long.
  
  I tried
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemsold AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custsold, 0)) AS sold
  FROM item
  GROUP BY no;
  
  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW proc_view_itemrtn AS
  SELECT no,
   NVL(SUM(custrtn, 0)) as return
  FROM rtnitem
  GROUP BY no;
  
  SELECT i.no,
   i.sold
   r.return
  FROM proc_view_itemsold, proc_view_itemrtn
  WHERE i.no = r.no;
  
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemsold;
  DROP VIEW proc_view_itemrtn;
  
  
  The result is the same, it took more than 25
  minutes.
  
  Do I have to create a temporary tables instead of
  view to prevent these two
  giant tables producing a cardinality product ?
  In this situation is that possible using inner query
  with where clause again
  to prevent those giant tables combined?
  
  
  
  Thank you,
  
  
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Re: export with filesize option, dump file size estimation

2001-09-19 Thread JOE TESTA



why not take the size of the tablespaces with data(not indexes, u do have 
your indexes in separate tablespaces right?), divide by 1.9G and put that many 
filenames on the command line, you can't have too many, oracle wont use the 
extra but if you're short, you lose.

joe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/01 02:10PM 

any idea on how to estimate the export dump file 
size without doing an actual export (not even to /dev/null)? the idea is to use filesize option of export utility to 
export db to several files. i am aware 
of using pipe/split to do large export. 
thanks, bill 


external procedure in Oracle

2001-09-19 Thread Chen, Bill
Title: external procedure in Oracle





external procedure is only available after V8.0, right? before V8.0, any way to use C programs in pl/sql or sql code? thank, bill 




Re: Upgrade Oracle from 8.1.7 Release 3 to 9.0.1

2001-09-19 Thread JOE TESTA



last i checked the migration guide, there was only a script to run(on linux 
platform at least), to upgrade from 8.1.x to 9.0.1

it wasrun (at least that) 

$ORACLE_HOME./rdbms/admin/u0801070.sql

joe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/01 02:20PM 

Hello i want to upgrade my database from 8.1.7 to 
9.0.1
system: windows 2000 server sp1
2 oracle database instances

i've installed the oracle 9i software on the server 
(seperate home ..)
now i want to the update via the oracle data 
migration assistant i specify my password and my correct path to initxxx.ora 
file
then i click next and become the following error 
tns-12560 ...
my network configuration works because i can 
connect to my database !

when i start svrmgrl on the command line i become 
the same error tns-12560
when i do "connect internal/pwd@dbtest" it works 
!
i've allready set the oracle_sid parameter in the 
registry !

any ideas ?


RE: Copy Oracle's binary.

2001-09-19 Thread Miller, Jay

One more thing, be careful that if you do this that you change the
listener.ora file to point to the new hostname.  Otherwise you can
accidently shut down the listener on the other server.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello,
 
I've two machines (with the same unix's configuration on Sun Solaris). On
has Oracle 8.1.7. installed and a database. Do you think it's possible to
copy Oracle's binary and the database on Unix level to the new serveur
instead of installing and cloning the db ?
 
Thank you very much.
 
Thanh-truc Nguyen  

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Re: Upgrade Oracle from 8.1.7 Release 3 to 9.0.1

2001-09-19 Thread JOE TESTA



i guess my other comment is "why trust oracle to mess up the upgrade with 
their tool, when you follow the instructions and do a manual upgrade?"

joe
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/01 02:20PM 

Hello i want to upgrade my database from 8.1.7 to 
9.0.1
system: windows 2000 server sp1
2 oracle database instances

i've installed the oracle 9i software on the server 
(seperate home ..)
now i want to the update via the oracle data 
migration assistant i specify my password and my correct path to initxxx.ora 
file
then i click next and become the following error 
tns-12560 ...
my network configuration works because i can 
connect to my database !

when i start svrmgrl on the command line i become 
the same error tns-12560
when i do "connect internal/pwd@dbtest" it works 
!
i've allready set the oracle_sid parameter in the 
registry !

any ideas ?


RE: time synchronization

2001-09-19 Thread John Kanagaraj

Ed,

Get your SAs to take a look at NTP (Network Time Protocol). You can setup an
NTP server and use NTP clients to sync up to it easily. In the case when an
NTP client catches up with the server, it just reduces or increases the
1/100 sec time clicks so that the time is caught up over a period of time
and even seconds are not missed. 

John - you may also be missing cron jobs (and Oracle Apps scheduled
concurrent manager jobs in case you are using Apps) in case you take an
abrupt jump.

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Oracle is designed to handle time changes.  For example switching to and
from daylight savings.  This is because the archive logging is not dependent
on a date.  It has its own sequence.  Therefore changing the date and time
even while oracle is up is no problem.  I have done this many times for
testing.  The only thing to watch for is if you are using DBMS_JOBS.
Changing the time may cause a job not to execute or to run when you don't
want it to.  Just make sure there is no time conflict with any of these jobs
and also 'cron' jobs and go ahead and change the time.  I believe your
backup strategy is an overkill which I personally would not do but you
decide if you would feel safer with the backups, then go ahead with your
plan.

HTH,
John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/01 08:46AM 
Hi List,

we have about 2 min difference between the time on our db server and the
rest boxes in our network.
Actually, the time on DB server is 2min slow than the network time.It causes
real pain to us.

I think about the following order of time synchronization:

1. Normal shutdown the DB and listener
2. immediate cold backup
2. setup time synchronization on the unix level
3. startup the DB and listener
4. Normal shutdown DB and listener
5. immediate cold backup
6. startup DB and listener

Is this correct ? Any possible troubles? Any good links?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Copy Oracle's binary.

2001-09-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.

We do it all the time and it works fine.  We make sure everything is
shutdown first.  We also do the copy as root just to make sure we get
everything.  May not be required but it is safer.

Ron

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One more thing, be careful that if you do this that you change the
listener.ora file to point to the new hostname.  Otherwise you can
accidently shut down the listener on the other server.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello,
 
I've two machines (with the same unix's configuration on Sun Solaris). On
has Oracle 8.1.7. installed and a database. Do you think it's possible to
copy Oracle's binary and the database on Unix level to the new serveur
instead of installing and cloning the db ?
 
Thank you very much.
 
Thanh-truc Nguyen  

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RE: export with filesize option, dump file size estimation

2001-09-19 Thread Hallas John
Title: export with filesize option, dump file size estimation



This 
came up a few weeks ago and as I recall there was no firm 
answer.

Suggestions included summing the bytes from dba_extents 
where owner != 'sys' or guessing. 
I 
always work on a theory of about 20-25% of the space used (i.e sum of all 
the datafiles minus sum from dba_free_space)

John

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  any idea on how to estimate the export dump 
  file size without doing an actual export (not even to /dev/null)? 
  the idea is to use filesize option of 
  export utility to export db to several files. i am aware of using pipe/split to do large export. 
  
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Response files for 8.1.7

2001-09-19 Thread John Lewis

Anyone have a *working* response file for a minimal install on Linux/Solaris
they want to share?

The docs are very bare and the error logs are well, not too helpful.

TIA

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No Subject

2001-09-19 Thread Joe LaCascio


Any idea's folks?

I'm running a DEC Alpha 4100, DEC Unix 4.0d.
I've just installed 8.1.6 with patch 8.1.6.2 and
the sqlnet patch 1399208.  

When I try to start the listener I get the following errors:

Script started on Wed Sep 19 12:04:14 2001
% ln^H ^Hsnrctl

LSNRCTL for DEC OSF/1 AXP: Version 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on 19-SEP-2001 12:04:17

(c) Copyright 1998, 1999, Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Welcome to LSNRCTL, type help for information.

LSNRCTL start
Starting /1091/oracle/product/816/bin/tnslsnr: please wait...

Internal AIO consistency error:  Cannot use libaio_raw with threads.
Either relink without -pthread or link -laio, not -laio_raw.
Aborting...
TNS-12547: TNS:lost contact
 TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error
  TNS-00517: Lost contact
   DEC OSF/1 AXP Error: 32: Broken pipe
LSNRCTL exit


Here's my listener.ora also:

# LISTENER.ORA Configuration File:/1091/oracle/product/816/network/admin/listener.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.

LISTENER =
  (DESCRIPTION_LIST =
(DESCRIPTION =
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
   (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = EXTPROC))
  )
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = mufasa)(PORT = 1525))
  )
)
(DESCRIPTION =
  (PROTOCOL_STACK =
(PRESENTATION = GIOP)
(SESSION = RAW)
  )
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = mufasa)(PORT = 2481))
)
  )
SID_LIST_LISTENER =
  (SID_LIST =
(SID_DESC =
  (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /1091/oracle/product/816)
  (PROGRAM = extproc)
)
(SID_DESC =
  (GLOBAL_DBNAME = PREP)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /1091/oracle/product/816)
  (SID_NAME = PREP)
)
  )
ADMIN_RESTRICTIONS_LISTENER=ON


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Re: How to move a databse from Solaris to Llinux

2001-09-19 Thread Joe Raube

Even transportable tablespaces aren't an option
between different OSes

From 8.1.7 docs:
http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/
a76965/c03space.htm#5759

In the current release, you can transport tablespaces
only between Oracle databases that use the same
data block size and character set, and that run on
compatible platforms from the same hardware vendor.

-Joe



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Bulk collect error

2001-09-19 Thread Csillag Zsolt



Hi,

The following statment works perfectly:

  Select F.Fofejezet_Megnevezes_Magyar,F.FOFEJEZET_AZONOSITO2,
 (Select Count(*) from alfejezet where 
alfejezet.ALFEJEZET_FOFEJEZET_AZONOSITO2= F.Fofejezet_Azonosito2)

  From Fofejezet F ;


However when I put this very same statement into a Pl/Sql procedure with 
Bulk Collect,
I get PLS-00103 error:

  Select F.Fofejezet_Megnevezes_Magyar,F.FOFEJEZET_AZONOSITO2,
 (Select Count(*) from alfejezet where 
alfejezet.ALFEJEZET_FOFEJEZET_AZONOSITO2= F.Fofejezet_Azonosito2)

Bulk Collect Into Vissza.FoFejezetNev,Vissza.FoFejezetKod,Vissza.Darab

  From Fofejezet F ;


Can somebody help me?

Thank you


Zsolt Csillag
Hungary

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Re: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Greg Moore

 As there are no restrictions on the data
  being brought back what is wrong with
 doing a full table scan of each?

True there are no restrictions.  The query is not going to return just one
row where product number = 443.  It's going to cover all of both tables it
joins.

A simple unrestricted join of two tables will be faster if you just do a
full table scan, you avoid the overhead of also looking at the indexes.  But
when SUM / GROUP BY are added this general rule doesn't apply and indexes
will help significantly.


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Re: Sqlplus tunning

2001-09-19 Thread Greg Moore

 I thought that hash_join was
 supposed to be best

Just tried it both ways, with nested loops and hash join, on tables with the
right indexes.

Nested loops has elapsed time of 10 seconds, hash join is 5 seconds.

However, the hash join spends about 4 seconds building the hash table before
any results start to come back.  The nested loops starts returning rows
right away -- so if you are returning data to a user's screen nested loops
would be a better choice even thought it takes longer because they see
results right away -- by the time they read the first screen and start
scrolling the rest will be there for them.

Guess it depends on what your definition of fast is.

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Re: Copy Oracle's binary.

2001-09-19 Thread Thanh-truc Nguyen

Hello,

Thank you for all of your advices. I did the copy and it worked fine.

Regards,

Thanh-truc Nguyen

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 We do it all the time and it works fine.  We make sure everything is
 shutdown first.  We also do the copy as root just to make sure we get
 everything.  May not be required but it is safer.
 
 Ron
 


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RE:

2001-09-19 Thread Veronica Levin

I don't know if this happened to others, but when I installed 8.1.6 (on AIX)
I had too many problems with performance, communication, and whatever you
can think about...
I migrated to 8.1.7 and applied 8.1.7.2 patch and my life is calm for now...


it is worth to try.

Saludos,
Veronica Levin Enriquez
Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua
 

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De: Joe LaCascio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: Miércoles, 19 de Septiembre de 2001 02:00 p.m.
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: 



Any idea's folks?

I'm running a DEC Alpha 4100, DEC Unix 4.0d.
I've just installed 8.1.6 with patch 8.1.6.2 and
the sqlnet patch 1399208.  

When I try to start the listener I get the following errors:

Script started on Wed Sep 19 12:04:14 2001
% ln^H ^Hsnrctl

LSNRCTL for DEC OSF/1 AXP: Version 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on 19-SEP-2001
12:04:17

(c) Copyright 1998, 1999, Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Welcome to LSNRCTL, type help for information.

LSNRCTL start
Starting /1091/oracle/product/816/bin/tnslsnr: please wait...

Internal AIO consistency error:  Cannot use libaio_raw with threads.
Either relink without -pthread or link -laio, not -laio_raw.
Aborting...
TNS-12547: TNS:lost contact
 TNS-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error
  TNS-00517: Lost contact
   DEC OSF/1 AXP Error: 32: Broken pipe
LSNRCTL exit


Here's my listener.ora also:

# LISTENER.ORA Configuration
File:/1091/oracle/product/816/network/admin/listener.ora
# Generated by Oracle configuration tools.

LISTENER =
  (DESCRIPTION_LIST =
(DESCRIPTION =
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
   (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = IPC)(KEY = EXTPROC))
  )
  (ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = mufasa)(PORT = 1525))
  )
)
(DESCRIPTION =
  (PROTOCOL_STACK =
(PRESENTATION = GIOP)
(SESSION = RAW)
  )
  (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = mufasa)(PORT = 2481))
)
  )
SID_LIST_LISTENER =
  (SID_LIST =
(SID_DESC =
  (SID_NAME = PLSExtProc)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /1091/oracle/product/816)
  (PROGRAM = extproc)
)
(SID_DESC =
  (GLOBAL_DBNAME = PREP)
  (ORACLE_HOME = /1091/oracle/product/816)
  (SID_NAME = PREP)
)
  )
ADMIN_RESTRICTIONS_LISTENER=ON


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Preinstall Oracle on CD

2001-09-19 Thread Apps Sol



We are doing some product development on oracle and 
are wondering 
if we can ship preinstalled oracle ona CD , 
so that our customer don't have
to worry about installing and pre configuring it 
.

Any ideas and thoughts ??

Cheers
RK


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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:00 
  PM
  Subject: 9i - Linux Rhat 7.1- Error 
  SIGSEGV 11* segmentation violation
  
  Did anyone try to install Oracle 9i on Linux 7.1 
  .. 
  
  I was trying to install it and running into this 
  error . (when running runInstaller ) 
  
  SIGSEGV 11* segmentation 
  violation
  All the prerequisites are in place .. 
  Any thoughts??
  
  Cheers
  RK 
  
  
  


Re: Error in creating tablespace

2001-09-19 Thread satar naghshineh

Salaam Ashraf Jon,

It appears that Oracle has a problem writing to the C
drive to create the datafile on the very first block.
This error is usually the result of a size issue over
4gb for the datafile or a file that has been
autoextended. In your case, it appears it doesn't like
the command (maybe some character is being passed
through the command?). 

Delete the file and re-try it again. try doing this in
svrmgrl80 and put a ; at the end.

Good Luck,
Satar Naghshineh



--- ASHRAF SALAYMEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I'm using Personal Oracle8 Database and Win98
 Platform
 
 I issued this command from Sqlplus8.0 :
  
CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
DATAFILE 'C:\PAYROL.ORA' SIZE 10M
 SQL /
 
 I am trying to create new tablespace Payroll but I
 have got this error!
 
 
 CREATE TABLESPACE PAYROLL
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-19502: write error on file C:\PAYROL.ORA,
 blockno 1 (blocksize=2048)
 ORA-27069: skgfdisp: attempt to do I/O beyond the
 range of the file
 OSD-04026: Invalid parameter passed.
 O/S-Error: (OS 64) The specified network name is no
 longer available.
 
 
 The strange is you can see the PAYROLL.ORA under C:\
 Directory
 After the error is displayed.
 
 But when you query :
 
 SQL select tablespace_name
  from dba_data_files;
  
 you can find nothing, no tablespace is created at
 all...
 
 I wish someone can help me to solve this problem.
 
 Best Regards, 
 Ashraf Salaymeh 
 


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RE: DB Names in multiple oracle installs

2001-09-19 Thread Sujatha Madan

Hi,

Thanks to all that replied!!!

Cheers,

Sujatha

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They could have the same database name but different SIDs.  But I think
that you're right.  I think that he means SID.  They can have a different
ORACLE_HOME in the listner.ora file and a different connect siring in the
TNSNAMES.ORA file (along with a different ORACLE_HOME).  I'm not sure if
that would be enough to differentiate them though.  If you're in a UNIX
environment there's still the question of ORACLE_SID.


 

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You CANN'T(if not anyone correct me). Even if oracle home, version are
different, their SID name should be different.

I tested. I'm able to create two databases on one oracle server with
different SID, but at a time i can startup only one database.

REgards,
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 Hi,

 Is it possible to call two databases the same name if they are residing
on
 the same machine, in different oracle homes? ... One database is version
 8.0.6 and the other is 8.1.7.

 Thanks

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RE: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.

2001-09-19 Thread Jared . Still


Create views on the fly?

Ugh.  Sorry, but that's really ugly IMO.

It would be much easier to use a refcursor.

Example follows.

Jared

 ref_cursor_test.sql

var tables_rc refcursor;

prompt Table Owner?:
col cowner noprint new_value uowner
set term off feed off
select upper('1') cowner from dual;
set term on feed on

begin

   open :tables_rc for
   select table_name, tablespace_name
   from all_tables
   where owner = 'uowner';

end;
/

print tables_rc;

undef 1
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Hi,
Someone posted the past week the solution of something like that.

He referred to create package and pass the date as a parameter to it
and have a procedure, inside the package, that create the view using
the parameter date.

That what I can recall.

Good luck,


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Asunto: Need assistance with a 'VIEW'.


I have been given the nice task of creating a view of some data in our
database.

This doesn't seem like a major task, but after 2 days of work, I am
stumped.

Given table 'table1'
   code1,
   code2,
   date,
   value1,
   value2

I need to produce a view showing
   code1,
   code2,
   sum(value1),
   sum(value2)
  where date  'user input date'

I have not been able to get the view to prompt for the date to limit the
sum
by.

Specifics:
  Oracle RDMBS  7.3.4
  Server:  Unix

What else can I say, but I am totally stumped.   HELP!
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Re: time synchronization

2001-09-19 Thread Jared . Still



Eduard,

You don't say why the time sync is causing such pain, or how you are
syncing up the time.

If the synchronization is a problem, check into using ntp or xntp found
at www.ntp.org ( network time protocol )

Many shops use this to keep servers in sync.  I use it at home on
linux boxes, works great.

How is this synchronization affecting your Oracle instances?

Jared




   
 
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Hi List,

we have about 2 min difference between the time on our db server and the
rest boxes in our network.
Actually, the time on DB server is 2min slow than the network time.It
causes
real pain to us.

I think about the following order of time synchronization:

1. Normal shutdown the DB and listener
2. immediate cold backup
2. setup time synchronization on the unix level
3. startup the DB and listener
4. Normal shutdown DB and listener
5. immediate cold backup
6. startup DB and listener

Is this correct ? Any possible troubles? Any good links?

Thanks in advance,
Ed
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Re: need an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client on same machine

2001-09-19 Thread Doug C

Thanks.. I will try this..  Is there anything else to be concerned about? Paths
etc?  I think there's a chance that the respective apps will find the correct
dll's in the correct bin directory automatically, but I'm not sure.   Any
problem anticipated with that?

Thanks,
Doug


On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:05:19 -0800, you wrote:

Doug,

I wrote the below without noticing that it was a winframe server.
I haven't used a winframe server before.
So, if it was a normal PC I would do what is below.  I would probably do the
same thing on a winframe server - I would just want to try it on a test
server first.

805 on NT is not multiple-home compliant.
So, you need to install 805 before you install 817 (install them into
separate homes).

So what I would do is:

Backup Oracle configuration files
Do a total remove of Oracle off the client (ie registry, files, icons etc)
Install 8.0.5 (eg into \oracle\product\805)
Install 8.1.7 into its own home (eg into \oracle\product\817)

I would maintain only 1 set of Oracle networking files.
eg create d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin 
Create a system environment variable tns_admin with a value of
d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Put sqlnet.ora and tnsnames.ora into d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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I need to get an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client working on the same
machine.
Currently, the 8.1.7 is the only one installed.  This is an NT
winframe/metaframe server running NT 4.0.  Some apps use the 8.1.7 client
and
some will require the 8.0.5.

Any suggestions before I start the surgery?

Thanks,
Doug
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RE: need an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client on same machine

2001-09-19 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Doug,

There is an Oracle home selector that could be run before starting the
appropriate application (alters path  possibly does things to registry as
well).

This should guarantee the application finding the correct dll's etc.

However, the home selector is a GUI application and I don't believe it has a
command line interface (I remember reading a Metalink article on this but I
don't currently have Internet access available).  You could use a Windows
scripting tool (eg Microsoft scriptit) to pass keystrokes into the home
selector but I haven't tried it.

Also, you may need to put the tns_admin variable into the registry as well
as the environment variable - see Metalink Note:1020336.102 
details here.

All this said, have you tried using the 817 client with the other
application - it might work (but whether the vendor would support it is
another questions).

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

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Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2001 1:55 

Thanks.. I will try this..  Is there anything else to be concerned about?
Paths
etc?  I think there's a chance that the respective apps will find the
correct
dll's in the correct bin directory automatically, but I'm not sure.   Any
problem anticipated with that?

Thanks,
Doug


On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:05:19 -0800, you wrote:

Doug,

I wrote the below without noticing that it was a winframe server.
I haven't used a winframe server before.
So, if it was a normal PC I would do what is below.  I would probably do
the
same thing on a winframe server - I would just want to try it on a test
server first.

805 on NT is not multiple-home compliant.
So, you need to install 805 before you install 817 (install them into
separate homes).

So what I would do is:

Backup Oracle configuration files
Do a total remove of Oracle off the client (ie registry, files, icons etc)
Install 8.0.5 (eg into \oracle\product\805)
Install 8.1.7 into its own home (eg into \oracle\product\817)

I would maintain only 1 set of Oracle networking files.
eg create d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin 
Create a system environment variable tns_admin with a value of
d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Put sqlnet.ora and tnsnames.ora into d:\oracle\admin\tns_admin

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2001 10:49 

I need to get an 8.0.5 client and an 8.1.7 client working on the same
machine.
Currently, the 8.1.7 is the only one installed.  This is an NT
winframe/metaframe server running NT 4.0.  Some apps use the 8.1.7 client
and
some will require the 8.0.5.

Any suggestions before I start the surgery?

Thanks,
Doug
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