Re: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-20 Thread Greg Moore

> So just looking at v$system_event is dangerous.
> Looking v$system_event and v$sysstat
> is much better but still not perfect. The third
> way is ... (mail me ;-))

Anjo,

Jared has an even hand on the tiller.  Go ahead an post an informative
example of how the v$ views don't allow you to diagnose a specific problem,
and how Precise products do.  We wanna know, and I don't imagine he'll mind.

These little hints, and half sentences that end with an ellipsis, are
getting on my nerves!  ;-)

- Greg

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RE: calling a stored procedure from a sitescope monitor

2002-05-20 Thread Chris McGrail

Sitescope is monitoring software produced by Freshwater software. It has 
many different types of templates for monitors for OS, web servers, 
databases, etc.

You're right that I could probably do what I want here with a function and 
not a procedure. This is really a prototype for more complicated things I 
want to do, so I made it a procedure. But this one is really  just a wrapper 
for a function that does all the work.

If I say desc foo in sqlplus, it returns

PROCEDURE foo

and that is it.

The Freshwater support guy I talked to suggested that I try

call foo

and that did not work, but I just noticed that it doesn't work in sqlplus 
either -- but call foo() does. Tried to redo the monitor to use that but it 
didn't work there either. Gives an ora-900 invalid sql error.

Let's say bar is the one function in procedure foo. I actually can just say

select bar from dual

in the monitor, and it runs, but I want to keep at it until I can call 
procedures too.

BTW, desc bar returns

FUNCTION bar RETURNS NUMBER



-Chris


>From: "Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: calling a stored procedure from a sitescope monitor
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:42:45 +1000
>
>Chris,
>
>I don't know what Sitescope is and I haven't used JDBC but can perhaps 
>offer a suggestion.
>
>You say foo doesn't have any arguments and that it returns a value.
>I take it that foo is actually a function then?
>
>From sqlplusw, what does "desc foo" show?
>
>Consider the following:
>SQL> create or replace  function foo return varchar is
>   2  begin
>   3  return 'a';
>   4  end;
>   5  /
>
>Function created.
>
>SQL> desc foo
>FUNCTION foo RETURNS VARCHAR2
>
>SQL> select foo from dual;
>
>FOO
>---
>a
>
>SQL>
>
>
>So, can you just do "select foo from dual" via JDBC?
>
>If I've misunderstood, what is sitescope and how would you execute your foo 
>from SQLPlus?
>
>Regards,
>Bruce Reardon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris McGrail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2002 14:33
>
>Has anyone done this? Let's say I have a procedure named foo and want to
>call it in a Sitescope monitor. There are no arguments to foo. I just want
>to call it and get the one value it returns. Freshwater doesn't have any 
>doc
>for this and they've been sitting on my request for information for a week.
>
>They do have a document with an example for SQL Server but nothing for
>Oracle. If Oracle were like SQL Server, you'd just put the name of the
>procedure in the query line on a typical database monitor, but I tried that
>and it doesn't work.
>
>We're using the jdbc thin driver to a version 8.1.7.2 instance if it makes
>any difference.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-Chris




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RE: calling a stored procedure from a sitescope monitor

2002-05-20 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Chris,

I don't know what Sitescope is and I haven't used JDBC but can perhaps offer a 
suggestion.

You say foo doesn't have any arguments and that it returns a value.
I take it that foo is actually a function then?

>From sqlplusw, what does "desc foo" show?

Consider the following:
SQL> create or replace  function foo return varchar is
  2  begin
  3  return 'a';
  4  end;
  5  /

Function created.

SQL> desc foo
FUNCTION foo RETURNS VARCHAR2

SQL> select foo from dual;

FOO
---
a

SQL> 


So, can you just do "select foo from dual" via JDBC?

If I've misunderstood, what is sitescope and how would you execute your foo from 
SQLPlus?

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2002 14:33

Has anyone done this? Let's say I have a procedure named foo and want to 
call it in a Sitescope monitor. There are no arguments to foo. I just want 
to call it and get the one value it returns. Freshwater doesn't have any doc 
for this and they've been sitting on my request for information for a week.

They do have a document with an example for SQL Server but nothing for 
Oracle. If Oracle were like SQL Server, you'd just put the name of the 
procedure in the query line on a typical database monitor, but I tried that 
and it doesn't work.

We're using the jdbc thin driver to a version 8.1.7.2 instance if it makes 
any difference.

Thanks.

-Chris
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Re: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread Keith Carney

Thank you, I would contact again for other questions if you don't mind. (One
step at a time, right now I have to learn PHP, right?)

Aida (Keith is my husband)
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>
> On Sat, 18 May 2002, Keith Carney wrote:
>
> > I am a beginner in Oracle and I need help.
> > I need to implement a interactive connection of oracle with web. I need
to
> > save data from web to database, make a kind of processing and send a
> > response to the web. I have no idea even how to make the implementation.
Can
> > somebody help me ?
>
> Keith:
>
> I would consider PHP (http://www.php.net).  It is very powerful, and very
> fast.  It is low overhead as compared to Java, and stored PL/SQL, as well
> as many other web development solutions.  Basically you have PHP scripts
> embedded in HTML pages or templates which get executed by Apache in a
> similar way that CGI's used to.  Actually PHP is compiled into the Apache
> server, or as a dynamically loaded module.  My biz site runs on it:
> http://www.iheavy.com.
>
> HTH,
> Sean
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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-20 Thread sean . hull


On Mon, 20 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> as wget no longer works with -http-user and -http-password from this site.
>
> So, you get to do it from a browser.  What fun.

Yeah, I just noticed that too.  Gotta make sure you're not from Cuba,
Sudan, Iraq, Libya, NKorea, or Syria.  Then again, what's to stop someone
from any of those places lying on the license.  Seemingly pointless...

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Re: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread Keith Carney

Dennis, thanks for your answer
Have you ever used before PHP and done anything of this kind of application
that I want to accomplish? I need to dig out everything myself this summer.
If you know someone that has done somthing alike please let me know. Thanks
again.
Star wars, right?
Can you guess about me?
Aida
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> Aida - Now that you have described your situation more clearly, I would
> second the advice you received from Sean - use PHP if you can. While this
> task can be accomplished with just about any language, with some choices
you
> will spend a lot of time getting everything set up. And you probably would
> have to use more than one language to accomplish some aspects. PHP was
> pretty much designed for quick Web pages and database interactivity. Some
> people here have been very successful with it. As a bonus, it sounds like
> you are already pretty accomplished in PHP. May the force be with you!
> (guess which movie I saw this weekend).
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:29 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Hi Dennis, my name is Aida, (my fault about this)
>
> Keith is my husband (I love to bother him).
>
> Thank you for answering to me, I really appreciate it.
>
> Let me explain more clear the situation.
>
> I am a graduate student at Stephen F. Austin State University in computer
> science department.
>
> I will graduate next summer. As part of my graduation the department has
> assigned me the project
>
> of Computer Science Programming Contest that is done every year. The way
the
> contest is organized
>
> is this: There is a web site in which the student can register in teams of
3
> or 4, they need to give their info
>
> (first name, last name, phone, class, address, for each member, the name
of
> the team) and a user name
>
> and password is assigned to each team so they can come back and change it
at
> any time.
>
> At the contest day, to each time is given their account on TITANS and
> password and directions how
>
> they can send their answers back by mail form their account to the jury.
> Every team-member can program in
>
> C, C++ or COBOL (languages that are taught at our university). After the
> e-mail is sent, the judge sends
>
> back the result of the answer.
>
> The way that is done until last time is this. A faculty member used the
PHP
> to make the registration and
>
> humans do all the other part. (this is what they want to avoid mainly and
> this time I think they are
>
> going to use also UNIX accounts for students)
>
> I took an oracle class (is the first time that is offered) this spring and
> they assigned me to do this project using oracle.
>
> I have learned SQL and PL/SQL and some of the basics of Oracle. I have
> designed some web sites before
>
> with forms, but never any one in interaction with the user and a database.
> That's why I need help for basically
>
> everything. (even for the general concept). Should I still use PHP or is
> there any better choice? This is my first
>
> big question right now but to tell you the truth I have everything under
> question mark. But one thing at a time
>
> and I am hunting around to get more comfortable with this problem.
>
> Thank you very much for your time
>
> AIDA
>
>
>
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>
>
> > Keith - Usually you need to create some sort of application that will
> > respond to user requests, extract data from Oracle, and format an HTML
> page
> > to send back to the user. That is basically what you described in your
> > email. How that program interfaces to Oracle will depend on what
> programming
> > language you choose. Usually your program is executed by a software
called
> a
> > "web server" or an "application server". Before you need to worry about
> > Oracle, you need to learn a lot more about Web programming. If by "web"
> you
> > mean the Internet, then you also need to learn about Web security. If
your
> > application is within your company intranet, then this concern isn't so
> > significant.
> > Suggestions: Find someone in your company that is an experienced Web
> > programmer, and discuss your situation with them. That will teach you a
> lot
> > quicker.
> > Go to http://www.google.com, and type terms like "HTML Tutorial". A
> > good site I found was http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/. This won't
> > teach you about connecting to a database, but you've got learn the
basics
> > before you progress on to advanced topics.
> > http://www.computerworld.com/departments/technology/quickstudies offers
> > explanations of some of the important concepts so simple even a manager
> can
> > understand.
> > If you encounter more specific questions, write back
> > Dennis W

Re: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread sean . hull


On Mon, 20 May 2002, Keith Carney wrote:

> Have you ever used before PHP and done anything of this kind of application
> that I want to accomplish? I need to dig out everything myself this summer.
> If you know someone that has done somthing alike please let me know. Thanks
> again.

Keith:

Keith, I've built exactly the type of content site you're working on.
Download a copy of PHP, Apache, MySQL, and phpWebSite.  Build a plugin for
phpWebSite for these customizations.  This combination will provide about
90% of the solution to start with.  You'll just need to do a little
programming for your specific needs.
http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu/

Here's another site dedicated to this software combo:
http://www.onlamp.com/

Take half the money you saved a buy a new house, take 1/4 and send divide
it among these projects, and send the other 1/4 to me!  :-)

Seriously, Oracle would probably be overkill for something like this.

HTH,
Sean


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calling a stored procedure from a sitescope monitor

2002-05-20 Thread Chris McGrail

Has anyone done this? Let's say I have a procedure named foo and want to 
call it in a Sitescope monitor. There are no arguments to foo. I just want 
to call it and get the one value it returns. Freshwater doesn't have any doc 
for this and they've been sitting on my request for information for a week.

They do have a document with an example for SQL Server but nothing for 
Oracle. If Oracle were like SQL Server, you'd just put the name of the 
procedure in the query line on a typical database monitor, but I tried that 
and it doesn't work.

We're using the jdbc thin driver to a version 8.1.7.2 instance if it makes 
any difference.

Thanks.

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Re: ANY IDEA?

2002-05-20 Thread Sergey V Dolgov

Hello Hamid,

I think you should balance your shared_pool and db_block_buffers
(decrease db_block buffers or increase shared_pool_size)

Tuesday, May 21, 2002, 5:38:21 AM, you wrote:

HA> Hello List,

HA> I got the following error  today(Oracle 8.1.7.0 Sun Solaris)

HA> ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4200 bytes of shared memory ("shared
HA> pool","unknown object","sga heap","state objects")
HA> At the moment my shared_pool size is 30M 
HA> Thanks  for your help



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Wait Event - Slave

2002-05-20 Thread Stephen Andert

Everything I've read tells me that slave wait events are non-issues,
that I shouldn't worry about them.  I'm wondering if they may be
pointers to some issues I think we are facing.  We are using Compaq
WildFire boxes with multiple QBB's running Tru64 Unix.  These boxes use
NUMA architecture and the os has not yet been patched so that NUMA and
Oracle will work well together (layman's terms :)

Can anyone tell me if the excessive slave waits (they are always in my
top 5 and usually the top one by several orders of magnitude) might be
related to this?

TIA for comments.

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RE: ANY IDEA?

2002-05-20 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

You might like to take a look at the following 2 links and work through the 
information contained within them.

diagnosing ora-4031_errors on Metalink at 
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_database_id=NOT&p_id=146599.1

Also see http://www.zoftware.org/tuning/tune_shared_pool.html#fixed_table (Tim Gorman 
pointed this out on 16-May when he found it using the very good search facilities at 
www.ixora.com.au)

You may also want to search the list archives - there are numerous ways:
http://www.fatcity.com/ListGuru/my.php 
http://faqchest.dynhost.com/prgm/oracle-l/ 
http://www.mail-archive.com/oracle-l%40fatcity.com/<-- this has them 
threaded and is a nice web interface to viewing the messages as well

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2002 10:38

There is not a single segment of memory large enough for you to grab.  The
way I see it, you have two options, increase your shared pool or flush your
shared pool.  

Regards,
Melanie Burns

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Hello List,

I got the following error  today(Oracle 8.1.7.0 Sun Solaris)

ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4200 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","sga heap","state objects")
At the moment my shared_pool size is 30M 
Thanks  for your help

Hamid Alavi
Office 818 737-0526
Cell818 402-1987
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RE: Statspack Problem

2002-05-20 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Have you connected via BEQ or Net8 initially?
Have you got oracle_sid set as an environment variable, as it looks like the connect 
perfstat/perfstat uses a BEQ connection.

After connecting as sys, can you now do a "connect perfstat/perfstat" (though maybe 
the scripts cleaned up on error and deleted the perfstat user.

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

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I am running 8.1.6 on a Win2000 SP2 machine.

When I try running 'statscre.sql' as SYS, the first script completes fine,
but when the second script tries to connect perfstat/perfstat , I get the
error, "You are no longer connected to Oracle TNS:ORA-12154".  Of course the
system then proceeds to attempt to run the other two scripts returning about
a hundred "not connected" error messages.

The Perfstat user was created and I did not have the chance to intervene and
change its password.  Any ideas as to why the script would fail to connect?

I connected as internal in the first place to run the script, so I don't
think its TNS.
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Re: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-20 Thread Anjo Kolk


In short:

Oracle is either using CPU or is waiting on a resource.
If oracle is waiting on a resource, it could be an Oracle event
(v$system_event/v$session_event), BUT what about waits that are not registered there
. like
waiting for CPU, waiting for a memory page to be paged in ..

So just looking at v$system_event is dangerous. Looking v$system_event and v$sysstat
is much better but still not perfect. The third way is ... (mail me ;-))

Anjo.



S B wrote:

> Hi
>
> Can anybody explain the events like
> SQL*Net message from client,rdbms ipc message
> PX Idle Wait ,slave wait  ...
>
> Can I assume a i/o bottleneck from the following
> statistics as most of the i/o events are having high
> wait time.
>
> select * from v$system_event
> order by TIME_WAITED;
>
> The last few entries are as follows.
>
> EVENT   TOTAL_WAITS
> TOTAL_TIMEOUTS TIME_WAITED AVERAGE_WAIT
> ---
> SQL*Net more data to client 888137  0   12365
> 0.013922402
> db file parallel write  24450   17606
> 7.200818
> db file scattered read  78230   18336
> 2.34385786
> db file sequential read 27779   0   55490
> 1.99755211
> control file parallel write 27194   0   70593
> 2.59590351
> log file sync   29700   1   145295
> 4.89208754
> log file parallel write 30511   2   146311
> 4.7953525
> io done 35551   567 270796
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> smon timer  278 273 8404285
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> pmon timer  27350   27349
> 8413237 307.613784
> SQL*Net message from client 498526  0   17655561
> 35.415527
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> 33193981294.552288
> PX Idle Wait164145  164139
> 33650049205.001974
> slave wait  433146  392872
> 4083965194.2861091
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Re: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-20 Thread Anjo Kolk

Download the YAPP paper ;-)

Anjo.


John Kanagaraj wrote:

> Greg,
>
> > > Can I assume a i/o bottleneck from the following
> > >
> > > select * from v$system_event
> > > order by TIME_WAITED;
> >
> > No.  Wait events may only make up a small amount of
> > processing that Oracle
> > is doing for you.
>
> Hmm I wouldn't think so. If there were just _one_ overall view that I
> could check to determine an Oracle bottleneck, it would be this view. A
> rollup of V$SESSION_WAIT is also effective in determining the _current_
> bottleneck.
>
> As to the original question: (And as with many other questions) It depends!
> The average_wait times displayed by V$SYSTEM_EVENT against specific events
> is a good indication of the 'bottleneck'. Just yesterday, I was debugging
> 'slow response' from a test database. The top wait events were for 'direct
> path read' and 'direct path write', with inordinate values for AV_WAIT (upto
> 932 CS or 9 secs!). This clearly pointed to some misconfigured Async I/O (It
> was on a Sun box where async_io default to TRUE). I then had the SA look at
> the Async config and it turns out that the Veritas layer was misconfigured -
> hopefully this has been sorted out. There have been numerous other examples
> - and I am not alone here - where DBAs have used V$SYSTEM_EVENT to determine
> the bottleneck. If I were 'S B', I would look at the avarage wait values for
> I/O and compare them to the manufacturer's claims. If they don't match or or
> not close, then it _may_ be an I/O bottleneck.
>
> I would recommend purchasing (or even stoop to the level of purloining a
> copy from a friend!) the most excellent 'Oracle Performance Tuning 101' book
> written by Gaja and Kirti from this list. This question is dealt in great
> detail therein, and I am sure they would be happy to answer any further
> queries.
>
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Statspack Problem

2002-05-20 Thread Tom Schruefer

I am running 8.1.6 on a Win2000 SP2 machine.

When I try running 'statscre.sql' as SYS, the first script completes fine,
but when the second script tries to connect perfstat/perfstat , I get the
error, "You are no longer connected to Oracle TNS:ORA-12154".  Of course the
system then proceeds to attempt to run the other two scripts returning about
a hundred "not connected" error messages.

The Perfstat user was created and I did not have the chance to intervene and
change its password.  Any ideas as to why the script would fail to connect?

I connected as internal in the first place to run the script, so I don't
think its TNS.

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

If an expert is done with consistent = 'N' it still must  preserve some information.  
In the beginning export runs  some selects against the data dictionary and needs that 
data to be consistent throughout the export.  If that data changes then it needs to be 
reconstructed from the undo generated when the data was changed. 

The undo is generated not by the export program, but by the programs which changed the 
data dictionary that export needs to keep consistent.  Besides this undo data there is 
that being generated by normal transaction processing.  Tables which are changing 
while an "export" select is being run are dependent on this rollback information for 
consistency.  Consistent = 'N' does not stop this requirement on individual tables.  
It means that consistency between different tables is not enforced.  There are selects 
being run against changing tables which are not related to the export and they too are 
dependent on undo information for consistent reads.

What separates the needs for rollback information outlined in the second paragraph 
from the first is how long it must be maintained.  The selects done by the export 
program against the data dictionary it must be maintained for the duration of the 
export.  If your rollback segments are too small there Oracle will not be able to do 
so, and produce an error.  

How assigning a particular rollback segment  would work in this case is beyond me.

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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

> The idea of huge rollback segment is just to eliminate the contention the
> rollback segment. Well its not always applicable ( possible make sure all
> the other applications are not used), but we can create a big rollback
> segment and bring it on line and make other rollback segments offline, and
> run the export . So definitely the big rollback segment will be used.

Used for what?  Are you talking about constructing consistent reads?
If so, then that shouldn't be necessary on any significant scale if
we, as you suggest, "make sure all the other applications are not
used."

Even if concurrent access is allowed (as it should be) during export,
why would constructing consistent reads from a variety of rollback
segments cause "contention" conpared to constructing the same
consistent reads from one big rollback segment?  What are you trying
to accomplish with the big rollback segment?

What do you think the rollback segments are being used for by an
export?

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> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:
> 
> > Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
> > should help you to have faster export ,
> 
> What do you mean "assigning the big rollback segment?"  How do you do
> that to an export and what does it accomplish?
> 
> What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?
> 
> If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
> the export session after several minutes of slowness.
> 
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> > I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
> > processors and more memory space)
> > 
> > I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
> in
> > the older machine,
> > 
> > When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
> I
> > import to newer machine it was fast too, 
> > 
> > and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
> > using same export parameters in both servers)
> > Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
> > 
> > 
> > - The no of records are the same for both machines
> > - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: ANY IDEA?

2002-05-20 Thread Root, Melanie

There is not a single segment of memory large enough for you to grab.  The
way I see it, you have two options, increase your shared pool or flush your
shared pool.  

Regards,
Melanie Burns

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Hello List,

I got the following error  today(Oracle 8.1.7.0 Sun Solaris)

ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4200 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","sga heap","state objects")
At the moment my shared_pool size is 30M 
Thanks  for your help



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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-20 Thread Joe Testa

looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60?

joe


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>Joe,
>
>Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK is stored
>as an FK in the fact table.
>
>That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, 
>whatever,
>and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.
>
>"The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit" includes a spreadsheet to generate
>the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I think it has about 20 
>columns.
>
>Very good book, can't recommend it enough.
>
>Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>Ok i'm messing with dimensions.
>
>dm_time to be exact:
>
>create table dm_time
>( calendar_date date not null,
>  calendar_month number(2) not null,
>  calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
>  calendar_year number(4) not null);
>
>insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
>insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);
>
> 2 rows nice and simple
>
> trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess is 
>because of the design of the table
> 
> where basically calendar_date is child of
> calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of calendar_year, 
>wont validate.
>
>-  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01 with 
>the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
>will validate ok.
>
>Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something here.
>
>thanks, joe
>
>


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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

Joe,

Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK is stored
as an FK in the fact table.

That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, 
whatever,
and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.

"The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit" includes a spreadsheet to generate
the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I think it has about 20 
columns.

Very good book, can't recommend it enough.

Jared






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Ok i'm messing with dimensions.

dm_time to be exact:

create table dm_time
( calendar_date date not null,
  calendar_month number(2) not null,
  calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
  calendar_year number(4) not null);

insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);

 2 rows nice and simple

 trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess is 
because of the design of the table
 
 where basically calendar_date is child of
 calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of calendar_year, 
wont validate.

-  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01 with 
the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
will validate ok.

Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something here.

thanks, joe


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RE: Anyone using 8.1.7.4

2002-05-20 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Ron,

We currently use 8.1.7.1.4 on NT and have been considering testing an upgrade to 
8.1.7.4
However, to my knowledge, 8174 isn't yet out for Windows.
I can find it on Metalink for Solaris (ID:1697372 Patchset::2376472) but have not 
found it for Windows.

Do you know where 8.1.7.4 for Windows is available from? (I haven't been able to try 
ftp://updates.oracle.com/ due to problems with my browser (IE) not prompting me for a 
username).

Thanks,
Bruce Reardon

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I have an upgrade of Oracle 7.3.4 on NT.  I hear 8.1.7.3 had a lot of bugs.
Should I go with 8.1.7.4?  Any experience with 8.1.7.4?

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RE: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-20 Thread Wong, Bing

calendar_date   calendar_month  calendar_qtrcalendar_year
200201011   1   2002
200301011   1   2003

Mh...

The calendar_date(or changed to calendar_day) should be just the day of the
month since you already have calendar_year.  It seems that you are storing
everyday's day.  
Or get rid of calendar_year and calendar_month since calendar_date contains
month, and year?





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Ok i'm messing with dimensions.

dm_time to be exact:

create table dm_time
( calendar_date date not null,
  calendar_month number(2) not null,
  calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
  calendar_year number(4) not null);

insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);

 2 rows nice and simple

 trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess is 
because of the design of the table
 
 where basically calendar_date is child of
 calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of calendar_year, 
wont validate.

-  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01 with 
the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
will validate ok.

Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something here.

thanks, joe


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RE: ANY IDEA?

2002-05-20 Thread Johnson, Michael

check all the parameters that make up
your SGA not just the shared_pool, 
eg.  block size, block_buffers ,etc.
If you need more O/S allocated memory
, which is what it appears to be,
talk to the SA and then will adjust
otherwise you are going to have to reduce 
some things.   

Peace !

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Hello List,

I got the following error  today(Oracle 8.1.7.0 Sun Solaris)

ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4200 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","sga heap","state objects")
At the moment my shared_pool size is 30M 
Thanks  for your help



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RE: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-20 Thread John Kanagaraj

Hi Greg,

> Maybe not one, but what about two?  At the same time v$system_event is
> checked a couple of times, so you can see a time slice, 
> v$sysstat can be
> checked, focusing on CPU used by this session, parse time cpu 
> and recursive
> cpu usage.  One view gives wait time, one gives CPU time.

There is a lot to be said about using V$SYSSTAT too. The point is that the
CHR is derived out of V$SYSSTAT and hence one needs to be careful. Also,
some of the values in V$SYSSTAT have meaning only in V$SESSTAT A lot can
be deduced from sesstat, and the real interesting ones such as V$ROWCACHE
haven't been explored to their fullest depths yet. I think the point I was
trying to get across was that V$SYSTEM_EVENT is a good place to start, not
neccessarily the only view

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How to find current ORACLE_HOME programmatically

2002-05-20 Thread Alex Hillman

Hi, guys.

I need to find current value of ORACLE_HOME on the client from VB program,
running on that client. I understand that it is in the registry somewhere. I
have 2 client installations - one is 8.1.7 and another is 9 on the same
client. Apparently EM from 9 installation knows that needed tsnames.ora is
in 9 ORACLE_HOME and 8.1.7 EM knows that tsnames.ora in 8.1.7. installation.
And my VB program select tsnames.ora from 8.1.7 installation

Any ideas?

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The results are in ... re: not thinking on a deserted nude beach

2002-05-20 Thread Johnson, Michael

I ran the query over again and here are the results.
It appears the anti join solution is the one.
suit yourself.  I like Jareds / Larrys solution
note : Not Exists produced the same result as Not In
as the index remained suppressed !


Original Query

Execution Plan
--
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=15 Card=106 Bytes=19
  398)

   10   FILTER
   21 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'table2' (Cost=15 Card=106
   Bytes=19398)

   31 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'table1_PK' (UNIQUE) (
  Cost=2 Card=2 Bytes=18)

Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
  2  db block gets
   6468  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
 322140  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
   2498  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
 97  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
   1410  rows processed


**   the Anti Join (+) solution  


Execution Plan
--
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=50 Card=2739 Bytes=5
  50539)

   10   FILTER
   21 HASH JOIN (OUTER)
   32   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'Table2' (Cost=15 Card=2
  103 Bytes=384849)

   42   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'Table1' (Cost=14 C
  ard=3361 Bytes=60498)

Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
  4  db block gets
450  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
 322140  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
   2489  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
 97  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
   1410  rows processed

 the inline view using minus solution

Execution Plan
--
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=173 Card=7037 Bytes=
  1351104)

   10   HASH JOIN (Cost=173 Card=7037 Bytes=1351104)
   21 VIEW (Cost=145 Card=5464 Bytes=49176)
   32   MINUS
   43 SORT (UNIQUE)
   54   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'Table2' (Cost=15 Ca
  rd=2103 Bytes=18927)

   63 SORT (UNIQUE)
   76   TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'Table1' (Cost=
  14 Card=3361 Bytes=30249)

   81 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'Table2' (Cost=15 Card=210
  3 Bytes=384849)

Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
  6  db block gets
779  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
 322140  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
   2389  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
 97  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  2  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
   1410  rows processed




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Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-20 Thread Joe Testa

Ok i'm messing with dimensions.

dm_time to be exact:

create table dm_time
( calendar_date date not null,
  calendar_month number(2) not null,
  calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
  calendar_year number(4) not null);

insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);

 2 rows nice and simple

 trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess is 
because of the design of the table
 
 where basically calendar_date is child of
 calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of calendar_year, 
wont validate.

-  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01 with 
the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
will validate ok.

Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something here.

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Sunil_Nookala
Title: RE: SHARED POOL SIZE



sorry 
I goofed...I meant.. yes, it could be changed.

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  The value of IMMEDIATE in the ISSYS_MODIFIABLE column 
  means that it IS modifiable and takes effect immediately. 
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    1  select name, ISSES_MODIFIABLE, ISSYS_MODIFIABLE 
  from v$parameter   2* where name 
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RE: How to drop a datafile from a tablespace quickly

2002-05-20 Thread John Kanagaraj

> Umm.. couple of things to verify...
> 
> First, yes, it is me again!
> Second, the U-Turn was done on a yellow light (at least that 
> is what I see that
> night!)
> Third, that is just a LA street, not a highway! :P
> Forth, this is not wild... just LA type of driving!

Hey Welcome back Winnie!

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ANY IDEA?

2002-05-20 Thread Hamid Alavi

Hello List,

I got the following error  today(Oracle 8.1.7.0 Sun Solaris)

ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4200 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","sga heap","state objects")
At the moment my shared_pool size is 30M 
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Re: Microsoft Transaction Server & Standby database problem

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman

Sorry, I've never used MS-MTS...

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> Thanks,
>
> We tried this syntax in our test environment and it worked very well but
of
> course had no way of knowing if it solved our problem since that didn't
show
> up in the test environment even in normal circumstances.
> Have you actually had experience using this when Microsoft Transaction
> Server wasn't switching the way it should and this resolved the issue?
>
> Thanks!
> Jay
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>
> prod = (description=
> (address_list=
> (failover=ON)
> (load_balance=OFF)
> (address=...)  <= points to primary db
> (address=...)  <= points to standby db
> )
> (connect_data=(service_name=prod)
> )
> )
>
> The "ADDRESS_LIST=" stuff has worked since the 7.2 time-frame, though I
> think the "FAILOVER=" and "LOAD_BALANCE=" syntax was added with 8.0;  it
was
> just for failover functionality originally.  Of course, the
"SERVICE_NAME="
> stuff didn't happen until Oracle8i;  before that it was "SID=" only...
>
> The key to the FAILOVER=ON functionality working correctly is the death of
> the SQL*Net listener at the specified port, not the death of the database.
> Make sure that when the database dies, the SQL*Net listener dies too.
> Create a "sniper" process that monitors the database instance and
> automatically stops the listener if necessary.  Or, calls the UNIX "halt"
> command...  :-)  Whatever works...
>
> Otherwise, if the database instance is dead but the SQL*Net listener is
> still running, then this TNS syntax will timeout waiting for a connection
> rather than just failing over to the next "ADDRESS=" entry...
>
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> > When we switch between production and standby databases our procedure is
> to
> > change the DNS Name to point to the new ip address.
> > This works perfectly for all our old Powerbuilder client/server apps.
> >
> > However, our connections that go through Microsoft Transaction Server as
a
> > middle tier apparently continue to try and connect to the old database
> until
> > all the services are recycled or the NT boxes are rebooted.  This
> > unfortunately adds about a half hour to our downtime as well as
requiring
> > several more people to be present when we're doing the switch.
> >
> > Microsoft and Oracle are unanimous in saying it's the other one's fault.
> > Our developers say there's no way of monitoring what's going on in MTS.
> >
> > To make matters more difficult we've been unable to replicate the
problem
> in
> > our test environment.  We have someone developing a loadrunner script
now
> in
> > the hopes that a much higher load will cause the problem to show up.
> There
> > are several things (such as TAF) that we'd like to test to see if it
helps
> > but we can't do that until we can replicate the problem.
> >
> > So has anyone else seen this behaviour or (even better!) have a proven
> > solution for it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jay Miller
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RE: oracle job question

2002-05-20 Thread Igor Neyman

Yes, if it's different jobs.
If the same job was scheduled to run at 2:15 , 2:30 , 3:00, then oracle
will run only one job.

Igor Neyman

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What if I have jobs scheduled at 2:15 , 2:30 , 3:00  . Will oracle run
them all at once if database is up at 4:00 . -Ajay

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> > Hi List ,
> > I have a question regarding oracle database job . I have a database 
> > job which runs everyday at 3pm . Due to some reason database was 
> > shutdown between 2-4 pm . What will happen to that job . Will oracle

> > run this job after restaring database ?
> >
> > Thanks in advace for your answers
> > Bp
>
> Yes. Can be a big problem if you have a dozen jobs which were 
> carefully scheduled restarting all at once.
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Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 138

2002-05-20 Thread Eric D. Pierce

good, now we don't have to worry quite so much about that "the poo" 
thing.


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> Umm.. couple of things to verify...
> 
> First, yes, it is me again!
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RE: DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

No, but I recommend you take a look at the book "Oracle Backup & Recovery
101" by Kenny Smith and Stephan Haisley (Oracle Press). About half the book
is devoted to RMAN. It has lots of hands-on exercises, and I have performed
most of them. DUPLICATE (Chapter 15) is on my to-do list.
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Thanks for the info. I have not but I will. Have you tried it? 

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RE: DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread Marmdba

Thanks for the info. I have not but I will. Have you tried it? 

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Re: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Thanks for all the replies.  I was hoping to find a simple user-written
script that didn't require signing up for a fee-based service, though. 
I guess there aren't any available.


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> or
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> 
> I have used the first one found very good. 
> 


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RE: Microsoft Transaction Server & Standby database problem

2002-05-20 Thread Miller, Jay

Thanks,

We tried this syntax in our test environment and it worked very well but of
course had no way of knowing if it solved our problem since that didn't show
up in the test environment even in normal circumstances.
Have you actually had experience using this when Microsoft Transaction
Server wasn't switching the way it should and this resolved the issue?

Thanks!
Jay

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prod = (description=
(address_list=
(failover=ON)
(load_balance=OFF)
(address=...)  <= points to primary db
(address=...)  <= points to standby db
)
(connect_data=(service_name=prod)
)
)

The "ADDRESS_LIST=" stuff has worked since the 7.2 time-frame, though I
think the "FAILOVER=" and "LOAD_BALANCE=" syntax was added with 8.0;  it was
just for failover functionality originally.  Of course, the "SERVICE_NAME="
stuff didn't happen until Oracle8i;  before that it was "SID=" only...

The key to the FAILOVER=ON functionality working correctly is the death of
the SQL*Net listener at the specified port, not the death of the database.
Make sure that when the database dies, the SQL*Net listener dies too.
Create a "sniper" process that monitors the database instance and
automatically stops the listener if necessary.  Or, calls the UNIX "halt"
command...  :-)  Whatever works...

Otherwise, if the database instance is dead but the SQL*Net listener is
still running, then this TNS syntax will timeout waiting for a connection
rather than just failing over to the next "ADDRESS=" entry...

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> When we switch between production and standby databases our procedure is
to
> change the DNS Name to point to the new ip address.
> This works perfectly for all our old Powerbuilder client/server apps.
>
> However, our connections that go through Microsoft Transaction Server as a
> middle tier apparently continue to try and connect to the old database
until
> all the services are recycled or the NT boxes are rebooted.  This
> unfortunately adds about a half hour to our downtime as well as requiring
> several more people to be present when we're doing the switch.
>
> Microsoft and Oracle are unanimous in saying it's the other one's fault.
> Our developers say there's no way of monitoring what's going on in MTS.
>
> To make matters more difficult we've been unable to replicate the problem
in
> our test environment.  We have someone developing a loadrunner script now
in
> the hopes that a much higher load will cause the problem to show up.
There
> are several things (such as TAF) that we'd like to test to see if it helps
> but we can't do that until we can replicate the problem.
>
> So has anyone else seen this behaviour or (even better!) have a proven
> solution for it?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay Miller
>
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FW: DECODE HELP

2002-05-20 Thread Lyuda Hoska

Something like this would work.  
SELECT GREATEST(FIRST_DATE,
NVL(SEC_DATE,THIRD_DATE),NVL(THIRD_DATE,SEC_DATE))
FROM ;
Just an idea, you can explore it further..

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Hello all,

This has probably been discussed here before and I'm
sorry if I'm repeating this. But I'd very much
appreciate if someone could show me how to use DECODE
to select a MAX date where records are like this:

PRIM. KEY  FIRST_DATE SEC_DATE   THIRD_DATE
JO001599O 12/14/2000 03/23/2001 05/21/2001 
JO001620L12/27/2000 05/16/2001 

The first_date, sec_date and third_date may or may not
exist; either one of the dates will be there. I need
to come up with another column LATEST_DATE which will
show the latest date of the 3.

Thanks very much in advance!


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Re: DECODE HELP

2002-05-20 Thread Ron Thomas


Why use decode.  Look up the "greatest" sql function.

select prim_key, greatest(first_date,sec_date,third_date) from your_table.

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Hello all,

This has probably been discussed here before and I'm
sorry if I'm repeating this. But I'd very much
appreciate if someone could show me how to use DECODE
to select a MAX date where records are like this:

PRIM. KEY  FIRST_DATE SEC_DATE   THIRD_DATE
JO001599O 12/14/2000 03/23/2001 05/21/2001
JO001620L12/27/2000 05/16/2001

The first_date, sec_date and third_date may or may not
exist; either one of the dates will be there. I need
to come up with another column LATEST_DATE which will
show the latest date of the 3.

Thanks very much in advance!


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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

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Paul - We had this discussion last week, so you can probably search the
archives and get answers. What I received from the discussion is that it is
probably simple to create a simple trace file formatter, but that won't
account for all the nuances in the trace files. The people that have
developed the trace file formatters have devoted an enormous amount of time
learning the subtleties and understanding the inconsistencies in the files.
Obviously, they deserve to be compensated for their effort, and I don't
think they are asking for large amounts of money by any means. 
But I expect that you can do some experimenting on your own,
learning the basics, and it will probably give you a better appreciation for
what Cary has gone through.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Thanks for all the replies.  I was hoping to find a simple user-written
script that didn't require signing up for a fee-based service, though. 
I guess there aren't any available.


--- K Gopalakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> Check 'itprof'  at http://www.ubtools.com
> or
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> 
> I have used the first one found very good. 
> 


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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

> The idea of huge rollback segment is just to eliminate the contention the
> rollback segment. Well its not always applicable ( possible make sure all
> the other applications are not used), but we can create a big rollback
> segment and bring it on line and make other rollback segments offline, and
> run the export . So definitely the big rollback segment will be used.

Used for what?  Are you talking about constructing consistent reads?
If so, then that shouldn't be necessary on any significant scale if
we, as you suggest, "make sure all the other applications are not
used."

Even if concurrent access is allowed (as it should be) during export,
why would constructing consistent reads from a variety of rollback
segments cause "contention" conpared to constructing the same
consistent reads from one big rollback segment?  What are you trying
to accomplish with the big rollback segment?

What do you think the rollback segments are being used for by an
export?

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> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:
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> > Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
> > should help you to have faster export ,
> 
> What do you mean "assigning the big rollback segment?"  How do you do
> that to an export and what does it accomplish?
> 
> What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?
> 
> If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
> the export session after several minutes of slowness.
> 
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> > 
> > I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
> > processors and more memory space)
> > 
> > I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
> in
> > the older machine,
> > 
> > When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
> I
> > import to newer machine it was fast too, 
> > 
> > and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
> > using same export parameters in both servers)
> > Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
> > 
> > 
> > - The no of records are the same for both machines
> > - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

Someone at Oracle has modified the login procedures for 
download.oracle.com, 
as wget no longer works with -http-user and -http-password from this site.

So, you get to do it from a browser.  What fun.

Jared





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2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo, 
 
can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha
 
 
joe
 


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Re: oracle job question

2002-05-20 Thread BigP

What if I have jobs scheduled at 2:15 , 2:30 , 3:00  . Will oracle run them
all at once if database is up at 4:00 .
-Ajay

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> > shutdown between 2-4 pm . What will happen to that job . Will oracle
> > run this job after restaring database ?
> >
> > Thanks in advace for your answers
> > Bp
>
> Yes. Can be a big problem if you have a dozen jobs which were carefully
> scheduled restarting all at once.
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DECODE HELP

2002-05-20 Thread Viktor

Hello all,

This has probably been discussed here before and I'm
sorry if I'm repeating this. But I'd very much
appreciate if someone could show me how to use DECODE
to select a MAX date where records are like this:

PRIM. KEY  FIRST_DATE SEC_DATE   THIRD_DATE
JO001599O 12/14/2000 03/23/2001 05/21/2001 
JO001620L12/27/2000 05/16/2001 

The first_date, sec_date and third_date may or may not
exist; either one of the dates will be there. I need
to come up with another column LATEST_DATE which will
show the latest date of the 3.

Thanks very much in advance!


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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rodd Holman




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On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 11:33, Freeman, Robert wrote:

How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
"honorary men"?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
"honorary man".

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:
>
> The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
> around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: SHARED POOL SIZE





The value of IMMEDIATE in the ISSYS_MODIFIABLE column
means that it IS modifiable and takes effect
immediately.



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No, it is NOT.


Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production


  1  select name, ISSES_MODIFIABLE, ISSYS_MODIFIABLE from v$parameter
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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Paul:

I think you are talking about the support tool TRCSUMMARY. IT is a perl
script from oracle Support. You can get it externally if you have some
friends in Oracle Support ;)

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> 
> A note on Metalink makes reference to a formatting utility but, of
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> 
> 

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Re: Korn Shell & Sqlplus

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

"Hand, Michael T" wrote:
> 
> > Maybe one of you has some inspiration.
> >
> Environment: Compaq Tru64 5.1;  Oracle 8.1.7.3
> 
> > The concept is for a parent Korn shell to spawn a sqlplus child in
> > background (which will validate table structure via a PL/SQL Block) then
> > wait for a fixed time period before stopping/killing the sqlplus child.
> > After the sqlplus child is stopped some follow-up processing is needed to
> > "bookmark" where the sqlplus processing has stopped.
> >
> > My quick test script so far look like:
> > #!/bin/ksh
> > echo "Starting val_asc, spawning at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> > sqlplus x/ @val_asc3.pls >> val_asc3.log &
> valpid=$!
> > sleep 240
> > kill -KILL  %1
> > echo "Leaving val_asc at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> > exit
> >
> When the sqlplus line runs it starts 2 processes:
> > oragdv   169035 167185  0.0 10:00:20 pts/10:00.18 sqlplus
> > oragdv   169652 169035  0.0 10:00:22 ??   0:00.13 oracleGDV
> > (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES). . .
> >
> The problem is when the kill command executes, only the first of these 2
> processes is killed immediately.  The 2nd (with the PPID at 1) continues
> processing until the PL/SQL Block completes (including database updates)
> before it terminates.
> 
> > Here's the question.  Is there a straightforward way to terminate that 2nd
> > process before starting post processing?
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have been bashing my head
> > against the proverbial wall for several days now  ;)
> I have used the $! parameter to id the sqlplus PID and have been fiddling
> with ps & awk to try and obtain the 2nd process's PID but have yet to be
> successful
> 
> > Michael Hand
> Polaroid Corp
> 


Michael,

  Killing Oracle server processes is definitely bad manners. Especially
if you are using MTS. Even if you are not, the proper way to kill an
Oracle process is to use ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION. I think that you
should use the DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO package to set something like 'Hey!
Shoot me!' in your CLIENT_INFO column in V$PROCESS - it would make it
easier to another process to log as DBA, spot the process and bang.
  Another thing that you might want to explore are profiles - you can
define and set a profile with limits to suit your needs, and let Oracle
do the dirty work.

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RE: DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Michele - Have you looked at the RMAN DUPLICATE command?
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Hi all, 

I am trying to speed up refreshes of QA databases and am familiar with
cloning databases using user managed backups (hot and cold). The problem is
the organization I am currently with uses RMAN to manage the backups. The
perform a level 0 once a month, level 1 once a week, level 2 daily.
How/could I use these backups to clone the database to another environment?
One of the db's that needs to be refreshed is approx. 40gb and takes about 5
hours to import. The other db is 200+ gb and takes about 24 hours to import.


Any suggestions / strategies. Also, its a 24 x 7 environment.

TIA,

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RE: Korn Shell & Sqlplus

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Michael - I have noticed the same issue you describe - ie. after the sqlplus
process terminates, the shadow process continues to completion (assuming
there is a COMMIT in the script). We are also on Compaq Tru64, but Oracle
8.1.6. I have only noticed it, not had a reason to dig in and investigate. I
suspect that the shadow process is getting reparented to root. You might
consider changing your kill to a kill -9. Or locate the shadow process and
kill it, maybe first. Just some ideas, hopefully someone has more direct
experience.
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> Maybe one of you has some inspiration. 
> 
Environment: Compaq Tru64 5.1;  Oracle 8.1.7.3

> The concept is for a parent Korn shell to spawn a sqlplus child in
> background (which will validate table structure via a PL/SQL Block) then
> wait for a fixed time period before stopping/killing the sqlplus child.
> After the sqlplus child is stopped some follow-up processing is needed to
> "bookmark" where the sqlplus processing has stopped.
> 
> My quick test script so far look like:
> #!/bin/ksh
> echo "Starting val_asc, spawning at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> sqlplus x/ @val_asc3.pls >> val_asc3.log &
valpid=$!
> sleep 240
> kill -KILL  %1
> echo "Leaving val_asc at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> exit
> 
When the sqlplus line runs it starts 2 processes:
> oragdv   169035 167185  0.0 10:00:20 pts/10:00.18 sqlplus
> oragdv   169652 169035  0.0 10:00:22 ??   0:00.13 oracleGDV
> (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES). . .
> 
The problem is when the kill command executes, only the first of these 2
processes is killed immediately.  The 2nd (with the PPID at 1) continues
processing until the PL/SQL Block completes (including database updates)
before it terminates.

> Here's the question.  Is there a straightforward way to terminate that 2nd
> process before starting post processing?
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have been bashing my head
> against the proverbial wall for several days now  ;)
I have used the $! parameter to id the sqlplus PID and have been fiddling
with ps & awk to try and obtain the 2nd process's PID but have yet to be
successful

> Michael Hand
Polaroid Corp

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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Sunil_Nookala

No, it is NOT.

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With the Partitioning option
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  1  select name, ISSES_MODIFIABLE, ISSYS_MODIFIABLE from v$parameter
  2* where name like'shared_pool_size%'
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NAME ISSES
ISSYS_MOD
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RE: Patch: 1951929

2002-05-20 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: Patch: 1951929





This pretty much boilerplate text I've seen
on LOTS of patches from Oracle.



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Has anyone applied this?  The last sentence from support, copied
below, gives me the creeps:



Please go to the Oracle MetaLink ( http://metalink.oracle.com/ ) site
to download the patch referenced below.


Patch: 1951929 - RECIEVING MANY ORA-07445 [KQRGCU()+244]ERRORS


Customers are reminded that one-off Oracle Server patches are not
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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

My favorite Shakespearean (sp?) play

and yes, I think we should move this  to the OT list :)


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> > Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
> > Men were deceivers ever;
> > One foot in sea and one on shore,
> > To one thing constant never;
> > Then sigh not so,
> > But let them go,
> > And be you blithe and bonny;
> > Converting all your sounds of woe
> > Into. Hey nonny, nonny.
> > 
> > Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
> > Or dumps so dull and heavy;
> > The fraud of men was ever so,
> > Since summer first was leavy.
> > Then sigh not so,
> > But let them go,
> > And be you blithe and bonny,
> > Converting all your sounds of woe
> > Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Paul Sherman
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> 
> One woman is fair, yet I am well; another is wise, yet I am well;
> another virtuous, yet I am well; but till all graces be in one woman,
> one woman shall not come in my grace. Rich she shall be, that's
> certain;
> wise, or I'll none; virtuous, or I'll never cheapen her; fair, or
> I'll
> never look on her; mild, or come not near me; noble, or not I for an
> angel; of good discourse, an excellent musician, and her hair shall
> be
> of what colour it please God.
> 
> Time to move to the OT list, perhaps.
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread raja

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

The idea of huge rollback segment is just to eliminate the contention the
rollback segment. Well its not always applicable ( possible make sure all
the other applications are not used), but we can create a big rollback
segment and bring it on line and make other rollback segments offline, and
run the export . So definitely the big rollback segment will be used.

COMMIT=Y is not a parameter for export , instead good for import , its my
mistake.

Somewhere I have read that NFS Mounted file system will make the export
slower .

Thanks for your correction,
Madhu

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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

> Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
> should help you to have faster export ,

What do you mean "assigning the big rollback segment?"  How do you do
that to an export and what does it accomplish?

What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
the export session after several minutes of slowness.

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> I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
> processors and more memory space)
> 
> I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
in
> the older machine,
> 
> When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
I
> import to newer machine it was fast too, 
> 
> and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
> using same export parameters in both servers)
> Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
> 
> 
> - The no of records are the same for both machines
> - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel


--- Jeremiah Wilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:
> 
> > Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
> > should help you to have faster export ,
> 
> What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

it causes an error message!

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DB Clone from RMAN backups

2002-05-20 Thread Marmdba

Hi all, 

I am trying to speed up refreshes of QA databases and am familiar with cloning 
databases using user managed backups (hot and cold). The problem is the organization I 
am currently with uses RMAN to manage the backups. The perform a level 0 once a month, 
level 1 once a week, level 2 daily. How/could I use these backups to clone the 
database to another environment? One of the db's that needs to be refreshed is approx. 
40gb and takes about 5 hours to import. The other db is 200+ gb and takes about 24 
hours to import. 

Any suggestions / strategies. Also, its a 24 x 7 environment.

TIA,

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Korn Shell & Sqlplus

2002-05-20 Thread Hand, Michael T

> Maybe one of you has some inspiration. 
> 
Environment: Compaq Tru64 5.1;  Oracle 8.1.7.3

> The concept is for a parent Korn shell to spawn a sqlplus child in
> background (which will validate table structure via a PL/SQL Block) then
> wait for a fixed time period before stopping/killing the sqlplus child.
> After the sqlplus child is stopped some follow-up processing is needed to
> "bookmark" where the sqlplus processing has stopped.
> 
> My quick test script so far look like:
> #!/bin/ksh
> echo "Starting val_asc, spawning at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> sqlplus x/ @val_asc3.pls >> val_asc3.log &
valpid=$!
> sleep 240
> kill -KILL  %1
> echo "Leaving val_asc at " $(date) >> val_asc.out
> exit
> 
When the sqlplus line runs it starts 2 processes:
> oragdv   169035 167185  0.0 10:00:20 pts/10:00.18 sqlplus
> oragdv   169652 169035  0.0 10:00:22 ??   0:00.13 oracleGDV
> (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES). . .
> 
The problem is when the kill command executes, only the first of these 2
processes is killed immediately.  The 2nd (with the PPID at 1) continues
processing until the PL/SQL Block completes (including database updates)
before it terminates.

> Here's the question.  Is there a straightforward way to terminate that 2nd
> process before starting post processing?
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated as I have been bashing my head
> against the proverbial wall for several days now  ;)
I have used the $! parameter to id the sqlplus PID and have been fiddling
with ps & awk to try and obtain the 2nd process's PID but have yet to be
successful

> Michael Hand
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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Unfortunately this is 8.1.7 (sorry I didn't specify).

A note on Metalink makes reference to a formatting utility but, of
course, neither includes nor specifies where to find said utility.

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> 
> I was just reading 9iR2 notes and it seems there is a new parameter
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> I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by "event 10046
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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ

All this coding stuff is fine if there is a one-to-one correlation between
the SQL Server tables and the Oracle tables. If not, then the first thing
that needs to be accomplished is mapping the SQL Server tables to Oracle.
This can be a fun job especially if data is required in Oracle that doesn't
exist in the old tables.

Ken Janusz, CPIM

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> The code to do this in Perl is trivial, and you get the bonus of complete
> control,
> as well as the ability to generate sqlloader control and paramters files
> on the fly.
>
> Jared Still
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the utility from SQL Server that
> produces the "flat" file does not perform unsolicited rounding of
> numerics.  I was recently burned on a Sybase->Oracle conversion when the
> BCP (a.k.a. "bulk copy") and ISQL (a.k.a. SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities
> each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd digit to the right of the
> decimal.  Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, beware...
>
> In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. to get the true
> precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option.  Instead, I wrote a shell
> script to query the Sybase data dictionary to generate the "C" program
> sources for each table.  The Sybase APIs were perfectly capable of
> handling numeric precision, but the %&^&#* Sybase developers who wrote
> ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly.  Since the ODBC driver
> from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no implicit rounding
> seen), then maybe the MS folks are more diligent...
>
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> Richard:
>
> Yes.  The way I've done it in the past is to generate tilde (~) delimited
> flat files and then load the data into Oracle via SQL*Loader.  You have to
> do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then you have to write scripts
> for each table you are loading.  I recommend the O'Reilly book Oracle
> SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide.  This is a process that can take time
> especially if the Oracle application needs data that the old legacy DB
> doesn't provide.
>
> My $0.02 worth,
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> Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables in an SQL Server DB
> and insert into tables in an Oracle DB?
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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Stephane Faroult

"Sherman, Paul R." wrote:
> 
> Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
> Men were deceivers ever;
> One foot in sea and one on shore,
> To one thing constant never;
> Then sigh not so,
> But let them go,
> And be you blithe and bonny;
> Converting all your sounds of woe
> Into. Hey nonny, nonny.
> 
> Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
> Or dumps so dull and heavy;
> The fraud of men was ever so,
> Since summer first was leavy.
> Then sigh not so,
> But let them go,
> And be you blithe and bonny,
> Converting all your sounds of woe
> Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Paul Sherman
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One woman is fair, yet I am well; another is wise, yet I am well;
another virtuous, yet I am well; but till all graces be in one woman,
one woman shall not come in my grace. Rich she shall be, that's certain;
wise, or I'll none; virtuous, or I'll never cheapen her; fair, or I'll
never look on her; mild, or come not near me; noble, or not I for an
angel; of good discourse, an excellent musician, and her hair shall be
of what colour it please God.

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Patch: 1951929

2002-05-20 Thread Ray Stell


Has anyone applied this?  The last sentence from support, copied
below, gives me the creeps:


Please go to the Oracle MetaLink ( http://metalink.oracle.com/ ) site
to download the patch referenced below.

Patch: 1951929 - RECIEVING MANY ORA-07445 [KQRGCU()+244]ERRORS

Customers are reminded that one-off Oracle Server patches are not
subject to the same rigorous level of testing as done for Oracle
Server patch sets.  Customers are encouraged to install and test this
patch in a test environment prior to full production implementation.
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Re: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

No.

Jared





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IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
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Re: AQ using a trigger?

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

My limited knowledge of AQ would lead me to believe
that you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

Maybe you should spend more time on the AQ docs?

Jared





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Does anyone have experience with AQ tables?  I would like to put a trigger
on my AQ table so that when a message comes in, it will automatically fire
off a job to dequeue the message.  I opened a TAR and was told that I can
put a trigger on the table, but it's not recommended.  When I asked why,
they said 'it just wasn't recommended'.   I'm curious if anyone actually
knows why I shouldn't or if I really can.  It really seems to be a slick 
way
to handle the messages, but if it will cause problems, I'd like to know 
that
upfront.

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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Jared . Still

The code to do this in Perl is trivial, and you get the bonus of complete 
control,
as well as the ability to generate sqlloader control and paramters files 
on the fly.

Jared Still
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...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the utility from SQL Server that 
produces the "flat" file does not perform unsolicited rounding of 
numerics.  I was recently burned on a Sybase->Oracle conversion when the 
BCP (a.k.a. "bulk copy") and ISQL (a.k.a. SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities 
each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd digit to the right of the 
decimal.  Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, beware...
 
In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. to get the true 
precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option.  Instead, I wrote a shell 
script to query the Sybase data dictionary to generate the "C" program 
sources for each table.  The Sybase APIs were perfectly capable of 
handling numeric precision, but the %&^&#* Sybase developers who wrote 
ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly.  Since the ODBC driver 
from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no implicit rounding 
seen), then maybe the MS folks are more diligent...
 
Just FYI...
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:08 AM

Richard:
 
Yes.  The way I've done it in the past is to generate tilde (~) delimited 
flat files and then load the data into Oracle via SQL*Loader.  You have to 
do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then you have to write scripts 
for each table you are loading.  I recommend the O'Reilly book Oracle 
SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide.  This is a process that can take time 
especially if the Oracle application needs data that the old legacy DB 
doesn't provide.
 
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 AM

Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables in an SQL Server DB 
and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Root, Melanie

No.  This is not one of the parameters that can be set on the fly...

Regards,
Melanie Burns

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HI,

IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Hamid,

Check v$parameter table and it will tell you if a given parameter that is
used and/or defaulted, is system or session modifiable. Whether or not to
modify, if a given parameter is session or system modifiable, is left up to
the discretion and experience of the DBA.

By the way, the example I sent to you on TEMP tblspace - it should have been
in K, not MB; thus, change to 512K then back to 1024K, not MB. Sorry about
that!

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IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
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RE: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Yes, upgrade to 9.0.1. Oops, you'll also have to shut down to do that. Well,
I guess the answer comes down to . . . . no.
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread JoJo Al-Zawawi

ROFL -- this whole thread has kept me cracking up all morning !!!

-- (Mrs.) JoJo  :D


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Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
Men were deceivers ever;
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never;
Then sigh not so,
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny;
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey nonny, nonny.

Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
Or dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leavy.
Then sigh not so, 
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
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RE: TEMP TABLESPACE

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Hamid,

1) Do not let TEMP tablespace have autoextend set to on - my .02 is to never
have this set to on for any tablespace, but to monitor and expand as
necessary. Other DBAs like autoextend, so you may want that for other
tablespaces, but not for TEMP.

2) A nice trick to get TEMP cleared of allocated-but-no-longer-used space is
to set the next extent to, say 512MB (from say, 1024MB). This will cause all
space but what is being currently used to be wiped out. The set next extent
back to 1024 (or whatever it was before).

Thank you,

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Hi List,

I have two data files for my TEMP tablespace, & i just find out one of the
data file "AUTO EXTEND" is set to on is it right??
I beleive for TEMP tablespace autoextend shoudn't be ON, AM I RIGHT or NOT?
Now my data file almost full for TEMP tablespace how can I Clean it up, I
run 
ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP COALESCE   BUT STILL DATA FILE IS FULL
ORACLE 8.1.7.0 ON SUN SOLARIS

\THANKS ALLOT



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SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-20 Thread Hamid Alavi

HI,

IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
DATABASE(8.1.6.2 ON SUN SOLARIS)



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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

ah but who says Henry Higgins was right?


--- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > 
> > as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> > "honorary men"?  :)
> > 
> > What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
> for being an
> > "honorary man".
> > 
> > Inquiring minds want to know :)
> > 
> > Rachel
> > 
> 
> Well, coming from me 'honorary man' is almost a compliment (also
> perhaps
> not totally in the context of nude sunbathing - I would not be
> totally
> opposed to chador in some cases on French beaches). What summarizes
> my
> thought best, and in a better way than I am able to put it, is
> probably
> this :
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4575/mflaudrey7.html#A
> 
> Now I think I'd better run for cover, even if the trouble-and-strife
> is
> not on the list ...
> 
> You asked for it ;-).
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephane Faroult
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Yeah, so.  I would think for the right amount of money, he would put on a
wig and dress...

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it's joe's list

--- "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
> 
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> 
> How does one get on the OT list???
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> "honorary men"?  :)
> 
> What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
> being
> an
> "honorary man".
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know :)
> 
> Rachel
> 
> 
> 
> |+--->
> ||   |
> ||   |
> ||  sfaroult@orio|
> ||  le.com   |
> ||   |
> ||  05/18/2002   |
> ||  11:13 AM |
> ||  Please   |
> ||  respond to   |
> ||  ORACLE-L |
> ||   |
> |+--->
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>   ||
>   |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
>   |   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
>   |   Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
>   |   you dont want to think ? |
>   >|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Elkins wrote:
> >
> > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > around ;-)
> 
>  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> are like honorary men.
> 
> 
> Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
> or
> less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
> rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
> I
> have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
> the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
> and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
> shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
> when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
> but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
> account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
> have not tested anything yet.
> I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
> Pierce? Pretty active there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman

ITRPROF from http://www.ubtools.com/products/itrprof/itrprof.html and I
believe that www.hotsos.com has a new 10046 trace analyzer as well...

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> I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by "event 10046
> trace name context forever,level 8" (this dumps all wait events to a
> file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
> one?  Thanks.
>
>
>
> =
> Paul Baumgartel, Adept Computer Associates, Inc.
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Sigh no more, ladies, sigh nor more;
Men were deceivers ever;
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never;
Then sigh not so,
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny;
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey nonny, nonny.

Sing no more ditties, sing no mo,
Or dumps so dull and heavy;
The fraud of men was ever so,
Since summer first was leavy.
Then sigh not so, 
But let them go,
And be you blithe and bonny,
Converting all your sounds of woe
Into. Hey, nonny, nonny.

Thank you,

Paul Sherman
DBAElcom, Inc.
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oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.


--- Ruth Gramolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
> thought of
> as a man instead of the women you are?
> Ruth.
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> > "honorary men"?  :)
> >
> > What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
> for
> being an
> > "honorary man".
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know :)
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> >
> >
> > |+--->
> > ||   |
> > ||   |
> > ||  sfaroult@orio|
> > ||  le.com   |
> > ||   |
> > ||  05/18/2002   |
> > ||  11:13 AM |
> > ||  Please   |
> > ||  respond to   |
> > ||  ORACLE-L |
> > ||   |
> > |+--->
> >   >|
> >   ||
> >   |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> >   |   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
> >   |   Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
> >   |   you dont want to think ? |
> >   >|
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry Elkins wrote:
> > >
> > > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > > around ;-)
> >
> >  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> > are like honorary men.
> >
> >
> > Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> > curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> > anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> > full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
> (more or
> > less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> > The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
> of
> > rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> > or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> > Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
> but I
> > have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> > Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
> on
> > the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> > because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> > (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
> approach
> > and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> > the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
> I
> > shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> > rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
> problems
> > when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
> choice
> > but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> > logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> > Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
> into
> > account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> > tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
> I
> > have not tested anything yet.
> > I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> > blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> > doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
> about
> > Pierce? Pretty active there.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Mohammed . Ahsanuddin

If you are on 9i, tkprof now includes that functionality. Otherwise
hotsos.com is one of the source for such a tool.

Mohammed Ahsanuddin
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I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by "event 10046
trace name context forever,level 8" (this dumps all wait events to a
file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
one?  Thanks.



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RE: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Tkprof ??

I was just reading 9iR2 notes and it seems there is a new parameter for
tkprof 'wait events' that will list waits (if available) in the file per
cursor, very useful feature.

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Re: Errors on Alert file

2002-05-20 Thread Ray Stell



"It was Abby something." " Abby who?" " Abby...Abby Normal that's it."



On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 06:38:25AM -0800, Nirmal Kumar Muthu Kumaran wrote:
> ORA-00602 
> ORA-00602internal programming exception 
> Cause:An internal programming exception has occurred. 
> Action:Report this error as a program bug to Worldwide Customer Support. 
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> nirmal.
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2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

be prepared for a LOT of chatter it's being used more like a chat
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year and are over 20,000 messages already.

on the other hand, the chatter tends to be either funny, informative or
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Rachel   
--- "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> How does one get on the OT list???
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> 
> as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> "honorary men"?  :)
> 
> What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
> being
> an
> "honorary man".
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know :)
> 
> Rachel
> 
> 
> 
> |+--->
> ||   |
> ||   |
> ||  sfaroult@orio|
> ||  le.com   |
> ||   |
> ||  05/18/2002   |
> ||  11:13 AM |
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> ||  respond to   |
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>   |   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
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>   |   you dont want to think ? |
>   >|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Elkins wrote:
> >
> > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > around ;-)
> 
>  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> are like honorary men.
> 
> 
> Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
> or
> less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
> rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
> I
> have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
> the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
> and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
> shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
> when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
> but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
> account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
> have not tested anything yet.
> I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
> Pierce? Pretty active there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stephane Faroult
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OT: Ray Lane sighting

2002-05-20 Thread DENISE

Check out http://www.dominionpost.com

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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

What is 'get out more'?

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All you men on this list really need to get out more!! ;-) 

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we want jpegs !!!

:-)

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Hehe...  I was thinking the same thing and decided not to pursue!
Thanks
for stepping up to make that request.  I don't look like a man, I don't
feel
like a man, have never been called one of the guys

Just curious too...  This is interesting!
Melanie Burns

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
consider
"honorary men"?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
being
an
"honorary man".

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:
>
> The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
running
> around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Ruth Gramolini

But the original poster and some of the others seem to think that this would
be an honor...RBG
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> oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.
>
>
> --- Ruth Gramolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
> > thought of
> > as a man instead of the women you are?
> > Ruth.
> > - Original Message -
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> > consider
> > > "honorary men"?  :)
> > >
> > > What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
> > for
> > being an
> > > "honorary man".
> > >
> > > Inquiring minds want to know :)
> > >
> > > Rachel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > |+--->
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> > > ||   |
> > > ||  sfaroult@orio|
> > > ||  le.com   |
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> > >   |   you dont want to think ? |
> > >   >|
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry Elkins wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> > running
> > > > around ;-)
> > >
> > >  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> > many
> > > are like honorary men.
> > >
> > >
> > > Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> > > curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> > hash
> > > anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> > fast
> > > full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
> > (more or
> > > less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> > equations.
> > > The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
> > of
> > > rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> > equations
> > > or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> > > Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
> > but I
> > > have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> > either.
> > > Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
> > on
> > > the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> > > because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> > > (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
> > approach
> > > and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> > and
> > > the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
> > I
> > > shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> > > rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
> > problems
> > > when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
> > choice
> > > but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> > my
> > > logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> > days.
> > > Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
> > into
> > > account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> > > tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
> > I
> > > have not tested anything yet.
> > > I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> > > blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> > > doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
> > about
> > > Pierce? Pretty active there.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Stephane Faroult
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TEMP TABLESPACE

2002-05-20 Thread Hamid Alavi

Hi List,

I have two data files for my TEMP tablespace, & i just find out one of the
data file "AUTO EXTEND" is set to on is it right??
I beleive for TEMP tablespace autoextend shoudn't be ON, AM I RIGHT or NOT?
Now my data file almost full for TEMP tablespace how can I Clean it up, I
run 
ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP COALESCE   BUT STILL DATA FILE IS FULL
ORACLE 8.1.7.0 ON SUN SOLARIS

\THANKS ALLOT



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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Jeremiah Wilton

On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

> Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
> should help you to have faster export ,

What do you mean "assigning the big rollback segment?"  How do you do
that to an export and what does it accomplish?

What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
the export session after several minutes of slowness.

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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
> processors and more memory space)
> 
> I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database in
> the older machine,
> 
> When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when I
> import to newer machine it was fast too, 
> 
> and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
> using same export parameters in both servers)
> Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
> 
> 
> - The no of records are the same for both machines
> - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: ORA-01722 Error after DBA changes

2002-05-20 Thread Sandeep Kurliye

Hi,

Not sure about exact reason. But I am also having similar condition like
yours. One of my customers was running 8.1.5 with Forms5. I upgraded his DB
to 8.1.7. And I started facing problem with some reports. I got answer from
Oracle saying - this combination is not certified. Oracle has done lots of
changes in Timestamp in 8.1.7 DB.

Not very sure, but just check whether Forms 6i is certified on 8.1.6 and
7.3.4 or not. 

Recompilation of all forms and reports can be done by using project builder.
But I'll prefer some DOS BATCH script.

 Create a file with .bat extension and put following line & run it
FOR %%I IN (*.FMB) DO {YOUR ORACLE HOME}\BIN\ifcmp60 %%I username/password
 End of script*

Same logic you can apply for recompiling reports.

HTH,
Sandeep.

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Subject:ORA-01722 Error after DBA changes

I have been getting a "FRM-40735 WHEN-BUTTON-PRESSED trigger raised
unhandled exception ORA-01722" error.  The button calls a procedure in
the form.  Whenever this happens, I open up the form in Developer,
recompile it, generate a new .fmx file and everything works fine.  In
other words, no changes, just recompilling.  Do you have any idea why
this might be happening?

It seems to have started happening after I made some changes to the
database.  I was dropping and recreating some tables in order to change
size parameters and also change privileges.  Could this have had
anything do with the ORA-1722 error?

Right now, I know the fix but I am curious why I have to recompile
everything. This is with Developer 6i (6.0.8.10.3) and Oracle 7.3.4.
but it also happens against my Oracle 8.1.6 test database.

When I asked this question to Oracle support, they replied that it was
because by changing the database objects, the timestamp gets changed.
But this does not make sense to me since these forms are not being
stored in the database.  It also seems to me that of the forms that are
dependant of the tables that I changed, some have problems and others
do not.  Also, I suppose if this is true, I will have to recomplile
all of my reports also.  Anyone have hints or scripts that I might run
to help me narrow down so that I do not have to recompile ALL forms
and reports?

TIA, Wayne
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Re: wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Hi:

Check 'itprof'  at http://www.ubtools.com
or
'Sparky'  at http://www.hotsos.com

I have used the first one found very good. 




--- Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by "event 10046
> trace name context forever,level 8" (this dumps all wait events to a
> file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
> one?  Thanks.
> 
> 
> 

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Best Regards,
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Bangalore, INDIA.

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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Seefelt, Beth


All you men on this list really need to get out more!! ;-) 

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


we want jpegs !!!

:-)

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hehe...  I was thinking the same thing and decided not to pursue!
Thanks
for stepping up to make that request.  I don't look like a man, I don't
feel
like a man, have never been called one of the guys

Just curious too...  This is interesting!
Melanie Burns

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
consider
"honorary men"?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
being
an
"honorary man".

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:
>
> The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
running
> around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: Oracle web application

2002-05-20 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Aida - Now that you have described your situation more clearly, I would
second the advice you received from Sean - use PHP if you can. While this
task can be accomplished with just about any language, with some choices you
will spend a lot of time getting everything set up. And you probably would
have to use more than one language to accomplish some aspects. PHP was
pretty much designed for quick Web pages and database interactivity. Some
people here have been very successful with it. As a bonus, it sounds like
you are already pretty accomplished in PHP. May the force be with you!
(guess which movie I saw this weekend).
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi Dennis, my name is Aida, (my fault about this)

Keith is my husband (I love to bother him).

Thank you for answering to me, I really appreciate it.

Let me explain more clear the situation.

I am a graduate student at Stephen F. Austin State University in computer
science department.

I will graduate next summer. As part of my graduation the department has
assigned me the project

of Computer Science Programming Contest that is done every year. The way the
contest is organized

is this: There is a web site in which the student can register in teams of 3
or 4, they need to give their info

(first name, last name, phone, class, address, for each member, the name of
the team) and a user name

and password is assigned to each team so they can come back and change it at
any time.

At the contest day, to each time is given their account on TITANS and
password and directions how

they can send their answers back by mail form their account to the jury.
Every team-member can program in

C, C++ or COBOL (languages that are taught at our university). After the
e-mail is sent, the judge sends

back the result of the answer.

The way that is done until last time is this. A faculty member used the PHP
to make the registration and

humans do all the other part. (this is what they want to avoid mainly and
this time I think they are

going to use also UNIX accounts for students)

I took an oracle class (is the first time that is offered) this spring and
they assigned me to do this project using oracle.

I have learned SQL and PL/SQL and some of the basics of Oracle. I have
designed some web sites before

with forms, but never any one in interaction with the user and a database.
That's why I need help for basically

everything. (even for the general concept). Should I still use PHP or is
there any better choice? This is my first

big question right now but to tell you the truth I have everything under
question mark. But one thing at a time

and I am hunting around to get more comfortable with this problem.

Thank you very much for your time

AIDA



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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 9:03 PM


> Keith - Usually you need to create some sort of application that will
> respond to user requests, extract data from Oracle, and format an HTML
page
> to send back to the user. That is basically what you described in your
> email. How that program interfaces to Oracle will depend on what
programming
> language you choose. Usually your program is executed by a software called
a
> "web server" or an "application server". Before you need to worry about
> Oracle, you need to learn a lot more about Web programming. If by "web"
you
> mean the Internet, then you also need to learn about Web security. If your
> application is within your company intranet, then this concern isn't so
> significant.
> Suggestions: Find someone in your company that is an experienced Web
> programmer, and discuss your situation with them. That will teach you a
lot
> quicker.
> Go to http://www.google.com, and type terms like "HTML Tutorial". A
> good site I found was http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/. This won't
> teach you about connecting to a database, but you've got learn the basics
> before you progress on to advanced topics.
> http://www.computerworld.com/departments/technology/quickstudies offers
> explanations of some of the important concepts so simple even a manager
can
> understand.
> If you encounter more specific questions, write back
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> -Original Message-
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> hi,
> I am a beginner in Oracle and I need help.
> I need to implement a interactive connection of oracle with web. I need to
> save data from web to database, make a kind of processing and send a
> response to the web. I have no idea even how to make the implementation.
Can
> somebody help me ?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



...speaking of $0.02, make sure that the 
utility from SQL Server that produces the "flat" file does not perform 
unsolicited rounding of numerics.  I was recently burned on a 
Sybase->Oracle conversion when the BCP (a.k.a. "bulk copy") and ISQL (a.k.a. 
SQL*Plus in Sybase) utilities each implicitly round numeric data to the 2nd 
digit to the right of the decimal.  Since SQL Server comes from Sybase, 
beware...
 
In ISQL, I could just divide everything by 1. 
to get the true precision, but BCP doesn't provide that option.  
Instead, I wrote a shell script to query the Sybase data dictionary to 
generate the "C" program sources for each table.  The Sybase APIs were 
perfectly capable of handling numeric precision, but the %&^&#* Sybase 
developers who wrote ISQL and BCP were too lazy to use them correctly.  
Since the ODBC driver from MS-Access seemed to use the API correctly (i.e. no 
implicit rounding seen), then maybe the MS folks are more 
diligent...
 
Just FYI...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  KENNETH JANUSZ 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:08 AM
  Subject: Re: SQL Server to Oracle 
DB
  
  Richard:
   
  Yes.  The way I've done it in the past is to generate 
  tilde (~) delimited flat files and then load the data into Oracle via 
  SQL*Loader.  You have to do a mapping first before using SQL*Loader. Then 
  you have to write scripts for each table you are loading.  I recommend 
  the O'Reilly book Oracle SQL*Loader, The Definitive Guide.  This is a 
  process that can take time especially if the Oracle application needs data 
  that the old legacy DB doesn't provide.
   
  My $0.02 worth,
  Ken Janusz, CPIM
  
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From: 
Richard Huntley 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:03 
AM
Subject: SQL Server to Oracle DB

Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from 
tables in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 

Thanks. 



RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

it's joe's list

--- "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:34 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> How does one get on the OT list???
> 
> -Original Message-
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> 
> as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> "honorary men"?  :)
> 
> What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for
> being
> an
> "honorary man".
> 
> Inquiring minds want to know :)
> 
> Rachel
> 
> 
> 
> |+--->
> ||   |
> ||   |
> ||  sfaroult@orio|
> ||  le.com   |
> ||   |
> ||  05/18/2002   |
> ||  11:13 AM |
> ||  Please   |
> ||  respond to   |
> ||  ORACLE-L |
> ||   |
> |+--->
>   >|
>   ||
>   |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
>   |   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
>   |   Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
>   |   you dont want to think ? |
>   >|
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Elkins wrote:
> >
> > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > around ;-)
> 
>  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> are like honorary men.
> 
> 
> Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more
> or
> less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
> rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but
> I
> have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
> the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
> and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
> shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
> when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
> but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
> account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
> have not tested anything yet.
> I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
> Pierce? Pretty active there.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stephane Faroult
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wait event trace file formatter?

2002-05-20 Thread Paul Baumgartel

I'm looking for a way to format a trace file produced by "event 10046
trace name context forever,level 8" (this dumps all wait events to a
file).  Has anyone written such a formatter, or have information on
one?  Thanks.



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Re: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael

oh I never said it was an honor to be considered a man.


--- Ruth Gramolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This inquiring mind want's to know, what is honorary about being
> thought of
> as a man instead of the women you are?
> Ruth.
> - Original Message -
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:23 AM
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you
> consider
> > "honorary men"?  :)
> >
> > What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are
> for
> being an
> > "honorary man".
> >
> > Inquiring minds want to know :)
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> >
> >
> > |+--->
> > ||   |
> > ||   |
> > ||  sfaroult@orio|
> > ||  le.com   |
> > ||   |
> > ||  05/18/2002   |
> > ||  11:13 AM |
> > ||  Please   |
> > ||  respond to   |
> > ||  ORACLE-L |
> > ||   |
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> >   ||
> >   |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> >   |   cc: (bcc: Rachel Carmichael) |
> >   |   Subject: Re: Do you ever have days where |
> >   |   you dont want to think ? |
> >   >|
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Larry Elkins wrote:
> > >
> > > The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men
> running
> > > around ;-)
> >
> >  That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too
> many
> > are like honorary men.
> >
> >
> > Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
> > curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the
> hash
> > anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index
> fast
> > full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans
> (more or
> > less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into
> equations.
> > The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number
> of
> > rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your
> equations
> > or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
> > Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts,
> but I
> > have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter
> either.
> > Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works
> on
> > the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
> > because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
> > (trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex
> approach
> > and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan
> and
> > the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions
> I
> > shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
> > rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional
> problems
> > when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious
> choice
> > but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of
> my
> > logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the
> days.
> > Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take
> into
> > account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
> > tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but
> I
> > have not tested anything yet.
> > I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
> > blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
> > doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details
> about
> > Pierce? Pretty active there.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Stephane Faroult
> > --
> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> > --
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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-20 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

Would you post the parameter file ??

Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment should
help you to have faster export ,
and also you can have a look at the DISK I/O stats ( verify the OFA is same
on both the boxes ).

Thanks,
Madhu

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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:43 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi guys,

I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
processors and more memory space)

I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database in
the older machine,

When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when I
import to newer machine it was fast too, 

and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
using same export parameters in both servers)
Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (


- The no of records are the same for both machines
- v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1



Thank you


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Re: Upgrade and it says it doesn't need it

2002-05-20 Thread Tim Gorman

log a tar...

sorry...

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> Unfortunately - this is what I'm having a problem with.  I did install
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> OUI.  The log files from that installation are in the "oraInventory"
> directory.  Subsequently, I installed some client software (precompilers)
on
> the machine.  The oraInventory only shows the client installation, not the
> real server.
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> And...I have confirmed - the oraInst.loc file does correctly point to
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> It just looks as though the installer process didn't update the
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I
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Re:Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Brian_P_MacLean


You can do numeric logic by using the SIGN() function.  Here is the
solution I think he was looking for:

SQL@sandbox:test:8.1.7:OPS$ORACLE:12,34570>r
  1  select ltrim(decode(sign(minutes - 59), 1, to_char(minutes/60, '9.99')
||' hours',
  2 to_char(minutes)||'
minutes'
  3 )
  4  ) TIME
  5from bart
  6*  order by minutes

TIME

13 minutes
55 minutes
1.08 hours
3.50 hours

SQL@sandbox:test:8.1.7:OPS$ORACLE:12,34570>select * from bart order by 1;

  MINUTES
-
   13
   55
   65
  210




Brian P. MacLean
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Robert,

That won't work.  Decode works like a switch statement.  If condition 1
then
value 1.  You can't imbed logic operators therein.

DickG.

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Date:   5/20/2002 7:08 AM

I was wondering if anyone might have tried this before, because I can't
seem to
get it to work.  I'd like to be able to determine which unit of measure to
concatenate to a value by using a decode statement in the query.  I have a
column in the database that stores time in minutes, and I'd like to be able
to
show the output in minutes if the value is less than 60, but in hours (such
as
3.27 hours) if the value is greater than 60.  So far I've tried the
following
statement, but it seems to be blowing up on the first comparison operator:

SELECT decode(in_value, to_char(to_number(in_value) <= to_number('60')),
to_char(in_value)||' minutes', to_char(to_number(in_value) > to_number
('60')),
to_char(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

I'm selecting from dual just until I can get the query working at all.  Is
what
I'm trying to do even possible?  Any help or ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Grabowy, Chris

One makes a large cash offering to the Oracle Goddess...

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How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
"honorary men"?  :)

What I do want to know is how you determine what the criteria are for being
an
"honorary man".

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:
>
> The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
> around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: Numeric comparison in DECODE statement

2002-05-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

You can also implement your logic as 

SELECT DECODE(SIGN(in_value-60),
  -1, TO_CHAR(in_value)||' minutes', 
  TO_CHAR(in_value/60, '9.99')||' hours')
  FROM dual
/

HTH
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Robert,

That won't work.  Decode works like a switch statement.  If condition 1
then
value 1.  You can't imbed logic operators therein.

DickG.



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Anyone using 8.1.7.4

2002-05-20 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I have an upgrade of Oracle 7.3.4 on NT.  I hear 8.1.7.3 had a lot of bugs.
Should I go with 8.1.7.4?  Any experience with 8.1.7.4?

Ron Smith
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RE: Do you ever have days where you dont want to think ?

2002-05-20 Thread Mark Leith

If we told you, we would have to kill you ;P

You will need to be a registered "user" of Yahoo (have a Yahoo
logon/password). Go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oracle-l-ot

And click "join this group". You will then be prompted for info such as how
you want to receive the messages etc..

HTH

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How does one get on the OT list???

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as one of the women in this profession, do I want to know who you consider
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an
"honorary man".

Inquiring minds want to know :)

Rachel



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Larry Elkins wrote:
>
> The beach part sounds great, though I don't care to see naked men running
> around ;-)

 That's the problem in this job. Too many men. And among women, too many
are like honorary men.


Still preaching the gospel, as you can see :-). In fact, I would be
curious to compare the join on the inline-view with a MINUS to the hash
anti-join. Assuming all correct indexes, it is comparing two index fast
full scans plus sort plus index search to two table full scans (more or
less). I am almost certain that many costs could be put into equations.
The problem is if you have too many values (number of rows, number of
rows returned, storage, selectivity, etc...) to feed into your equations
or have trouble deriving these it is not of much use.
Wanted to do some tests on reverse indexes, following your posts, but I
have not had time. Not much progress on the book PL/SQL chapter either.
Currently working on real-time, home-made replication (which works on
the standard edition, BTW). Still revolving around the same topics
because one of my concerns is to minimize overhead when logging
(trigger-happy replication, I am suspicious of the Shareplex approach
and anyway as I want to be able to replicate between France, Japan and
the US, I cannot afford to transfer full redo logs and transactions I
shall have to rollback). I log into several tables (enough info to
rebuild statements, and values separately - with additional problems
when we reach the 4,000 characters mark), IOTs are the obvious choice
but I am not sure it is available with all licenses. Degradation of my
logs over timeis also something I have to watch. This is for the days.
Evenings are spent improving an intelligent loader able to take into
account complex FK relationships. I have prepared two 5,000,000 row
tables, one in my 8.1.7 database and one in my 9.0.1 database, but I
have not tested anything yet.
I had a flash of idiocy and subscribed to the OT list (out of the
blues). I doubt I will stay long here. Some people seems to be paid
doing nothing but e-mailing. Is this where you got the details about
Pierce? Pretty active there.

Cheers,

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Complementary ODTUG 2002 Registrations

2002-05-20 Thread Keith Peterson

as customers, we just received this.  Should be open
to all:

https://www.odtug.com/ssl/2002_reg_iraje.asp


Keith

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RE: SQL Server to Oracle DB

2002-05-20 Thread Mark Leith
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



Use 
the SQLServer DTS package. Under the SQLServer program menu, choose the 
import/export option, and it will start a Data Transformation Service wizard 
type thing for you. You can also do SQL transformations and alike as well, by 
opening the SQL Server Enterprise Manager console, expanding the server that you 
would like to export the data from, and under the Data Transformations folder, 
right click on Local Packages and create a new one.. All sorts of options in 
there, and probably best to hit  whilst on the screen.. 

 
HTHMark

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  Anyone know of an easy way to grab data from tables 
  in an SQL Server DB and insert into tables in an Oracle DB? 
  Thanks. 


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