Re: tns-12500 unable to start dedicated server process.

2002-11-23 Thread Stephane Faroult
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 I have 3 instances on Oracle 8.1.6,Nt 4.  They are all started but on one
 instance I connect via the listener.  The only connection is at
 the server not using service name.  I have the usual plenty of
 memory,swap,etc.  It has been working fine until today.  I even stopped the
 other 2 instances just to give more memory but still fails.  The
 listener.ora has not changed. I have rebooted the server multiple times.
 Oracle gives me the same old answer increase processes parameter,add more
 memory,add more swap file,etc.
 
 Anyone have any fresh ideas on how to resolve.
 
 Thanks
 Rick
 

Rick,

   Put your listener in trace mode.This is the process which creates the
dedicated server.
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Re: Storing of number datatype in table

2002-11-23 Thread Stephane Faroult
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 Thank u list for ur imm resp. It was the prob with numwidth.
 Now I have set the num width to 25 and s working fine.
 But whenever i stat the sql the default is set to 9. how do i change the
 def numwidth??
 Regards,
 
 Sathyanarayanan
 
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 The number is more than the numwidth specified. Try this
 
 SQL set numwidth 13
 SQL select trn_id from trnid;
 
 Your numwidth is perhpas defined as 9; so anything of more precision is
 displayed as exponetial notation; internally all numbers are stored the
 same.
 
 HTH
 
 Arup Nanda
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  Dear List
 
  Have a look at the sql !!!
 
  SQL create table trnid
2  ( trn_id number(10));
  Table created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('11');/* 10 1's inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('1');/* 9 1's inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL commit;
  Commit complete.
 
  SQL select trn_id from trnid;
 
 TRN_ID
  -
  1.111E+09
  1
 
  can anyone tell why the number(10) is stored in exp format
 
  Regards,
 
  Sathyanarayanan
 
 

Set the value you want in $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/glogin.sql or its
Windows equivalent.
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Re: Storing of number datatype in table

2002-11-23 Thread Satyendra K Khare
set numwidth value in login.sql file
oracle read it when open a new session

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 Thank u list for ur imm resp. It was the prob with numwidth.
 Now I have set the num width to 25 and s working fine.
 But whenever i stat the sql the default is set to 9. how do i change the
 def numwidth??
 Regards,

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 The number is more than the numwidth specified. Try this

 SQL set numwidth 13
 SQL select trn_id from trnid;

 Your numwidth is perhpas defined as 9; so anything of more precision is
 displayed as exponetial notation; internally all numbers are stored the
 same.

 HTH

 Arup Nanda
 www.proligence.com

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  Dear List
 
  Have a look at the sql !!!
 
  SQL create table trnid
2  ( trn_id number(10));
  Table created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('11');/* 10 1's inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('1');/* 9 1's inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL commit;
  Commit complete.
 
  SQL select trn_id from trnid;
 
 TRN_ID
  -
  1.111E+09
  1
 
  can anyone tell why the number(10) is stored in exp format
 
  Regards,
 
  Sathyanarayanan
 
 
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RE: Storing of number datatype in table

2002-11-23 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: RE: Storing of number datatype in table





set it in your login or glogin file. This file is run by default when you login through sql*plus.


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Thank u list for ur imm resp. It was the prob with numwidth.
Now I have set the num width to 25 and s working fine.
But whenever i stat the sql the default is set to 9. how do i change the
def numwidth??
Regards,


Sathyanarayanan





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The number is more than the numwidth specified. Try this


SQL set numwidth 13
SQL select trn_id from trnid;


Your numwidth is perhpas defined as 9; so anything of more precision is
displayed as exponetial notation; internally all numbers are stored the
same.


HTH


Arup Nanda
www.proligence.com


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 Dear List

 Have a look at the sql !!!

 SQL create table trnid
 2 ( trn_id number(10));
 Table created.

 SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('11');/* 10 1's inserted*/
 1 row created.

 SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('1');/* 9 1's inserted*/
 1 row created.

 SQL commit;
 Commit complete.

 SQL select trn_id from trnid;

 TRN_ID
 -
 1.111E+09
 1

 can anyone tell why the number(10) is stored in exp format

 Regards,

 Sathyanarayanan


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2002-11-23 Thread john
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RE: 1M STRIPE SIZE BEST?

2002-11-23 Thread Rich Holland
Ethan,

EMC is recommending a 2-cylinder stripe depth now (960KB) which is
pretty close to the 1MB that Oracle's SAME (Stripe and Mirror
Everything) configuration recommended in the Optimal Storage
Configuration Made Easy paper.

Other recommendations:
- use at least 4-member or 8-member striped metavolumes to distribute
load 
  across multiple disk adapters on the back end; don't go above 8 though
or 
  you're likely to run into disk queue depth issues
- use powerpath to do load balancing on the front end
- put redo logs on the first hyper of the physical disk (outer hyper)

Rich

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 A number of papers recommend a stripe size of 1 M (even for EMC) for
 volumes
 containing data files.  I also have the following email from Eyal
Aronoff
 of
 Quest dated Nov 2000.  A number of the white papers are more recent.
 
 
 The reasons for a larger stripe size on a non-RAID 5 device are:
 1) Sequential reads are faster if you can take advantege of the read
ahead
 built into the disk caching
 2) If a 64K read does not start on the first block of the stripe, two
 spindled are locked for the duration of the read
 
 However, lately we have been testing some EMC gear and it looks like
EMC
 have optimized both of those for smaller strip size too.
 
 The bottom line - I no longer have an opinion one way or another. The
 undelying technology just changes too rapidly.
 
 Eyal
 
 
 Your opinions/comments as far as a best practice in setting stripe
sizes
 would be greatly appreciated.
 
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help with connecting to sqlplus

2002-11-23 Thread john
ver 8i on windows NT4
chose the Typical install in 8i during installation 
hence i guess a starter db is created by the installation

via svrmgrl did startup

trying to connect to sqlplus both gui as well as command
line (on the same server box itself)

tried with just sqlplus and it challenges for
Enter user-name: i entered sys / as sysdba
asks for password:   i entered change_on_install

error ORA-01033: Oracle initialization in progress.

waited for 20 minutes, same error. did a shutdown and startup
again, same error
---
other clues/messages

shutdown, shutdown normal show this
Error ORA-01507: database not mounted

connected to sqlplus with nolog and creating a sample table 
with CREATE TABLE or do a DESCRIBE TABLE for this shows
not connected 

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Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-23 Thread Miller, Jay
Hi everyone,

I was always under the impression that the only concern with shmmax was that
it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
Administrators has just told me that the individual user processes (i.e.,
the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added to the SGA
and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start swapping.

I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on Metalink so I
though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system slowdown and he
says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he also
suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in no
uncertain terms was nonsense).

If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that too. 

I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to occur even
when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some other
cause.

Thanks,
Jay Miller

 

 
nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share memory. This
morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was lots of swaping.
see vmstst and iostat below in red:

procs memorypagedisk  faults  cpu
 r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   sy   cs us sy
id
 0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 3330  974 11  8
81
 0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  847  416  3  1
96
 0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 2183  670 13  4
84
 0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 4065  607 12  6
82
 0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  465  457  2  1
97
 0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 1859  734  8  3
89
 0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 1250  542  6  0
94
 0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  942  665  5  3
92
 0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 1047  374  4  1
95
 0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 1095  384  2  2
96

/s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
  0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
  0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 c5t12d0 -- swap
disk
  0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 c5t13d0 -- swap
disk


This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I suggest
increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase their memory
usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give application
first priority then free memory will be allocated to file cache( Solaris 2.6
and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).

* ORACLE CONFIGS
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to 409600
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
set semsys:seminfo_semume=150

 

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Re: help with connecting to sqlplus

2002-11-23 Thread Ponnusamy
John,

Try this,

$ sqlplus / as sysdba


HTH

...Ponnusamy
At 09:13 AM 11/23/2002 -0800, john wrote:

ver 8i on windows NT4
chose the Typical install in 8i during installation
hence i guess a starter db is created by the installation

via svrmgrl did startup

trying to connect to sqlplus both gui as well as command
line (on the same server box itself)

tried with just sqlplus and it challenges for
Enter user-name: i entered sys / as sysdba
asks for password:   i entered change_on_install

error ORA-01033: Oracle initialization in progress.

waited for 20 minutes, same error. did a shutdown and startup
again, same error
---
other clues/messages

shutdown, shutdown normal show this
Error ORA-01507: database not mounted

connected to sqlplus with nolog and creating a sample table
with CREATE TABLE or do a DESCRIBE TABLE for this shows
not connected

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2002-11-23 Thread Linda . Miller-Coker
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Re: test (please ignore)

2002-11-23 Thread Tim Gorman
Why do people do this?  What is it that they are testing?

And why should we ignore it and not each and every single one of us respond
directly to such testers to express displeasure (without replying to the
list)?

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Re: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-23 Thread Tim Gorman
Your Sys Admin is wrong.  The SHMxxx OS parameters refer to shared memory,
not private process heap memory.  On most UNIX variants, the ulimit
command is used to limit the consumption of memory for heap, stack, etc...

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 Hi everyone,

 I was always under the impression that the only concern with shmmax was
that
 it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
 Administrators has just told me that the individual user processes (i.e.,
 the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added to the SGA
 and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start swapping.

 I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on Metalink so
I
 though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system slowdown and
he
 says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he also
 suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in no
 uncertain terms was nonsense).

 If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that too.

 I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to occur even
 when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some other
 cause.

 Thanks,
 Jay Miller




 nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share memory. This
 morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was lots of
swaping.
 see vmstst and iostat below in red:

 procs memorypagedisk  faults  cpu
  r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   sy   cs us
sy
 id
  0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 3330  974 11
8
 81
  0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  847  416  3
1
 96
  0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 2183  670 13
4
 84
  0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 4065  607 12
6
 82
  0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  465  457  2
1
 97
  0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 1859  734  8
3
 89
  0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 1250  542  6
0
 94
  0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  942  665  5
3
 92
  0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 1047  374  4
1
 95
  0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 1095  384  2
2
 96

 /s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
   0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
   0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 c5t12d0 -- swap
 disk
   0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 c5t13d0 -- swap
 disk


 This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I suggest
 increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase their memory
 usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give application
 first priority then free memory will be allocated to file cache( Solaris
2.6
 and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).

 * ORACLE CONFIGS
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to 409600
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
 set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
 set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
 set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
 set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
 set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
 set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
 set semsys:seminfo_semume=150



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Re: ora-2083,ora-1256 Urgent

2002-11-23 Thread Ponnusamy
ORA-2083
02083, 0, database name has illegal character '%s'
// *Cause: supplied database name can contain only A-Z, 0-9, '_', '#', '$'nb
// '.' and '@' characters.
//
Solution Description:
=
Potential Solution(s):

1. Check whether you are using a dash - in the database name, i.e., PROD-DB.
If so, remove it.
2. Verify whether you have the parameters default domain and/or default zone
set to a dash - in the sqlnet.ora file. If so, you must remove it.

HTH
Ponnusamy

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Hi All,

I have a down production system on Win NT4,Oracle 8.1.6.
I just started getting ora-2083 database name has illegal character '-'.
When I try to connect via svrmgrl after setting oracle_sid I get tns-12560
tns protocol adapter error.

The other 2 instances work fine.  Nothing on MetaLink has been helpful
thusfar.

Any ideas on how to resolve.

Thanks
Rick


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9i On Win2k

2002-11-23 Thread Jay
Has anyone experienced a MS Dos window always being present on their 9.2
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If so is there anyway to not have the window open all of the time when
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Re: Storing of number datatype in table

2002-11-23 Thread Arup Nanda
There is a file called glogin.sql under $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin where you 
can place the line set numwidth 13, or whatever else. This file is read by 
every session when they connect through sql*plus in that machine. Caution : 
sessions sonncting through sqlplus only on that machine read this, not from 
other cleint machines.

HTH

Arup Nanda
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 Thank u list for ur imm resp. It was the prob with numwidth.
 Now I have set the num width to 25 and s working fine.
 But whenever i stat the sql the default is set to 9. how do i change the
 def numwidth??
 Regards,

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 The number is more than the numwidth specified. Try this

 SQL set numwidth 13
 SQL select trn_id from trnid;

 Your numwidth is perhpas defined as 9; so anything of more precision is
 displayed as exponetial notation; internally all numbers are stored the
 same.

 HTH

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  Dear List
 
  Have a look at the sql !!!
 
  SQL create table trnid
2  ( trn_id number(10));
  Table created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('11');/* 10 1's 
inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL insert into trnid(trn_id) values('1');/* 9 1's inserted*/
  1 row created.
 
  SQL commit;
  Commit complete.
 
  SQL select trn_id from trnid;
 
 TRN_ID
  -
  1.111E+09
  1
 
  can anyone tell why the number(10) is stored in exp format
 
  Regards,
 
  Sathyanarayanan
 
 

Set the value you want in $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/glogin.sql or its
Windows equivalent.
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RE: 9i On Win2k

2002-11-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I see it too.

Don't know how to you can avoid it, but would be interested in finding out!

Regards,
Pat.

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instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-23 Thread john
ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine

however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
show that the instance being shutdown just after the 
box boots up.

how do we rectify this problem ?

below is from the alert.log

ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
Shutting down instance (abort)
License high water mark = 5
Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
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please note: the shutdwon was not initiated by any admin
or user but done by the system itself after the box boots
up.

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RE: 9i On Win2k

2002-11-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Something similar happens on Tru64 UNIX when you start the Oracle Universal
Installer, a command line window pops up to start the Java environment.

I suppose the same thing is going on in Win32.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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I see it too.

Don't know how to you can avoid it, but would be interested in finding out!

Regards,
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Re: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
most disturbing is the thought that this person IS the sysadmin with
this level of knowledge.  


--- Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your Sys Admin is wrong.  The SHMxxx OS parameters refer to shared
 memory,
 not private process heap memory.  On most UNIX variants, the ulimit
 command is used to limit the consumption of memory for heap, stack,
 etc...
 
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:48 AM
 
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was always under the impression that the only concern with shmmax
 was
 that
  it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
  Administrators has just told me that the individual user processes
 (i.e.,
  the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added to
 the SGA
  and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start
 swapping.
 
  I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on
 Metalink so
 I
  though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system
 slowdown and
 he
  says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he
 also
  suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in
 no
  uncertain terms was nonsense).
 
  If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that
 too.
 
  I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to occur
 even
  when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some
 other
  cause.
 
  Thanks,
  Jay Miller
 
 
 
 
  nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share
 memory. This
  morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was lots of
 swaping.
  see vmstst and iostat below in red:
 
  procs memorypagedisk  faults   
   cpu
   r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   sy  
 cs us
 sy
  id
   0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 3330 
 974 11
 8
  81
   0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  847 
 416  3
 1
  96
   0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 2183 
 670 13
 4
  84
   0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 4065 
 607 12
 6
  82
   0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  465 
 457  2
 1
  97
   0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 1859 
 734  8
 3
  89
   0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 1250 
 542  6
 0
  94
   0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  942 
 665  5
 3
  92
   0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 1047 
 374  4
 1
  95
   0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 1095 
 384  2
 2
  96
 
  /s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 c5t12d0 --
 swap
  disk
0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 c5t13d0 --
 swap
  disk
 
 
  This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I
 suggest
  increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase their
 memory
  usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give
 application
  first priority then free memory will be allocated to file cache(
 Solaris
 2.6
  and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).
 
  * ORACLE CONFIGS
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to
 409600
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
  set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
  set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
  set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
  set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
  set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
  set semsys:seminfo_semume=150
 
 
 
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Re: 1M STRIPE SIZE BEST?

2002-11-23 Thread Jared Still

Maybe I've forgotten something fundamental about the way
RAID 5 works, I dunno.

But I'm having a hard time understanding how stripe size is
going to determine the number of heads used in an IO.

RAID 5 distributes the data across all spindles, with 1 or more
of the spindles for any IO being used for the parity data.

Someone care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Jared

On Thursday 21 November 2002 06:33, Thomas Day wrote:
 We had a discussion about a year ago here and if I remember correctly the
 best stripe size is a function of number of concurrent users.  With a
 small number of users you want a small stripe size so that each read i/o
 will utilize the maximum number of heads.  It will also tie up the RAID
 device for the duration of the read.  With a large number of users you want
 a very large stripe size so that a minimum of heads will be used for each
 read and the RAID device can handle multiple requests at a time.

 I don't recall any specific numbers and, as you say, the technology is
 changing so quickly that a discussion from a year ago may not be pertinent
 to today's environment.




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 Ethan.Post  To: Multiple recipients of
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 05:53 PM
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 A number of papers recommend a stripe size of 1 M (even for EMC) for
 volumes
 containing data files.  I also have the following email from Eyal Aronoff
 of
 Quest dated Nov 2000.  A number of the white papers are more recent.

 
 The reasons for a larger stripe size on a non-RAID 5 device are:
 1) Sequential reads are faster if you can take advantege of the read ahead
 built into the disk caching
 2) If a 64K read does not start on the first block of the stripe, two
 spindled are locked for the duration of the read

 However, lately we have been testing some EMC gear and it looks like EMC
 have optimized both of those for smaller strip size too.

 The bottom line - I no longer have an opinion one way or another. The
 undelying technology just changes too rapidly.

 Eyal
 

 Your opinions/comments as far as a best practice in setting stripe sizes
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: db file sequential read

2002-11-23 Thread Jared Still
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 08:39, Cary Millsap wrote:
 1. Make sure that the report on this statistic isn't being tricked by
 examining V$SESSION_WAIT.SECONDS_IN_WAIT. I'd bet money that this is
 what's happening. If your report uses this column, then it is highly
 likely that you're not actually waiting very long for physical I/O at
 all. The problem is that SECONDS_IN_WAIT keeps growing in 3-second
 increments long after an event completes, until the next event begins.

Cary, we certainly appreciate your contibutions to the body of Oracle 
knowledge here.  There's absolutely no other way for use to learn many
of these things.

Thanks,

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Re: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-23 Thread Jared Still

Tim,

Unless shared servers (MTS) are in use, in which case either the
UGA or PGA is in the SGA.  

To be honest, I can't recall which, and I'm too lazy to go look it up
right now.  But MTS will consume memory on a per user basis, though
the poster didn't mention it.  And I'm quite sure you know this, but 
thought I would mention for the benefit of those on the list that don't
know that.

Let one of them look it up.  :)

Also, the vmstat stats show PI/PO at very low rates, and the SR ( scan rate )
is mostly zero.

Jay, Ask your SA Where's the memory problem?

Jared

On Saturday 23 November 2002 11:38, Tim Gorman wrote:
 Your Sys Admin is wrong.  The SHMxxx OS parameters refer to shared
 memory, not private process heap memory.  On most UNIX variants, the
 ulimit command is used to limit the consumption of memory for heap,
 stack, etc...

 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:48 AM

  Hi everyone,
 
  I was always under the impression that the only concern with shmmax was

 that

  it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
  Administrators has just told me that the individual user processes (i.e.,
  the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added to the SGA
  and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will start swapping.
 
  I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on Metalink
  so

 I

  though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system slowdown and

 he

  says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he also
  suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in no
  uncertain terms was nonsense).
 
  If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that too.
 
  I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to occur even
  when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some other
  cause.
 
  Thanks,
  Jay Miller
 
 
 
 
  nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share memory. This
  morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was lots of

 swaping.

  see vmstst and iostat below in red:
 
  procs memorypagedisk  faults  cpu
   r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   sy   cs us

 sy

  id
   0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 3330  974 11

 8

  81
   0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  847  416  3

 1

  96
   0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 2183  670 13

 4

  84
   0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 4065  607 12

 6

  82
   0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  465  457  2

 1

  97
   0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 1859  734  8

 3

  89
   0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 1250  542  6

 0

  94
   0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  942  665  5

 3

  92
   0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 1047  374  4

 1

  95
   0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 1095  384  2

 2

  96
 
  /s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 c5t12d0 -- swap
  disk
0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 c5t13d0 -- swap
  disk
 
 
  This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I suggest
  increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase their
  memory usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give
  application first priority then free memory will be allocated to file
  cache( Solaris

 2.6

  and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).
 
  * ORACLE CONFIGS
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to 409600
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
  set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
  set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
  set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
  set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
  set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
  set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
  set semsys:seminfo_semume=150
 
 
 
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Re: Netbackup [#2]

2002-11-23 Thread Jared Still

... and buy the training.

You will not fully understand Net Backup without it.

Jared

On Monday 18 November 2002 02:23, O'Neill, Sean wrote:
 Is no-one out there using NetBackup???.

 Without wishing to sound rude I'll assume a non-response indicates an
 affirmative to that OR that you're all too busy to voice an opinion ;)

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 Howdy Folks,

 Would appreciate feedback on experiences, positive :) or negative :(, folk
 have had using Veritas NetBackup product for DB recovery, especially in DR
 scenarios.  There is an Oracle agent but so far all it appears to me to be
 is a glorious scheduler of your own RMAN scripted jobs!.  Feedback on
 features I may have missed with agent would also be appreciated.

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RE: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?

2002-11-23 Thread John Kanagaraj
Jay,

I would suggest that your SA look at the 'w' column under procs. This shows
that _since_ UNIX restart 23 jobs were continuously in the wait queue. Maybe
something starts up on system reboot...

procs memorypagedisk  
 r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   
 0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 
 0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  
 0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 

Also, could he show you 'sar -q' stats? This should show any swapping (as
opposed to paging).

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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Do user processes apply against shmmax limit?


Hi everyone,

I was always under the impression that the only concern with 
shmmax was that
it be large enough for the SGA to fit into it. One of my System
Administrators has just told me that the individual user 
processes (i.e.,
the PGA since we're not using multi-threaded server) get added 
to the SGA
and if that SGA + user processes  shmmax the system will 
start swapping.

I haven't found anything to specifically address this issue on 
Metalink so I
though I'd throw it open. We've started experiencing  system 
slowdown and he
says that increasing shmmax could resolve it. I'm skeptical (he also
suggested increasing SGA to decrease swapping which I told him in no
uncertain terms was nonsense).

If anyone has a link to a note or white paper I'd appreciate that too. 

I've appended his email at the bottom. This slowdown seems to 
occur even
when there's virtually on oracle activity so I'm suspecting some other
cause.

Thanks,
Jay Miller

 

 
nycsun1 and njsun7 has 6 GB of memory and only 2 GB of share 
memory. This
morning nycsun1 was very slow and I noticed that there was 
lots of swaping.
see vmstst and iostat below in red:

procs memorypagedisk  
faults  cpu
 r b w   swap  free  re  mf pi po fr de sr s2 s4 s4 sd   in   
sy   cs us sy
id
 0 0 23 4366736 97528 1 2186 16 12 12 95520 0 0 0 0  0 1104 
3330  974 11  8
81
 0 0 23 4365992 96056 1 451 16 24 52 85968 3 0 0  0  0  935  
847  416  3  1
96
 0 0 23 4364712 95512 2 310 36 24 492 85968 68 0 0 0 0 1036 
2183  670 13  4
84
 0 0 23 4361568 95488 9 2264 0 76 964 95520 136 0 0 0 0 979 
4065  607 12  6
82
 0 0 23 4362384 96080 1   6  4  8  8 77376 0 0 0  0  0  975  
465  457  2  1
97
 0 0 23 4361944 95712 4 730 92 48 532 95520 64 0 0 0 0 1040 
1859  734  8  3
89
 0 0 23 4360424 95480 4  41 36 40 100 77376 7 0 0 0  0  986 
1250  542  6  0
94
 0 0 23 4361304 96096 3 264 76 36 88 88496 7 0 0  0  0 1037  
942  665  5  3
92
 0 0 23 4359680 95784 2 449  4 28 84 95520 8 0 0  0  0  922 
1047  374  4  1
95
 0 0 23 4359936 95464 2 544  4 20 332 95520 44 0 0 0 0  931 
1095  384  2  2
96

/s  w/s   kr/s   kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t  %w  %b device
  0.0  0.00.00.0  0.0  0.00.00.0   0   0 c2t6d0
  0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.2 13.86.7  399.5   6  44 
c5t12d0 -- swap
disk
  0.0 34.50.0  270.0  0.5 10.7   15.5  309.4  18  39 
c5t13d0 -- swap
disk


This shows that the system is not effectively using memory. I suggest
increasing the share memory to 4 GB so that DBAs can increase 
their memory
usage. Also set priority paging on. Priority paging will give 
application
first priority then free memory will be allocated to file 
cache( Solaris 2.6
and 7. Solaris 8 is set dynamically).

* ORACLE CONFIGS
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax  =204800 -- increase to 409600
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1
set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni=300
set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg=30
set semsys:seminfo_semmap=500
set semsys:seminfo_semmni=200
set semsys:seminfo_semmns=2000
set semsys:seminfo_semmsl=1000
set semsys:seminfo_semmnu=500
set semsys:seminfo_semume=150

 

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Re: Oracle 10i features

2002-11-23 Thread Jared Still

Look for it to improve dramatically.

I might even try to use it.

Jared

On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote:
 Jared, just a thought :  ** WHY **  Oracle experts charged in OEM
 developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet  simple , just to the
 point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain  simple.

  Regards,

   Chiappa

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 On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote:
 Check out OraC, written in Perl of course.  :)
 
 http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/
 
 Jared
 
 On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Good grief.  Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and
  hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option,
  even if you're already licensed for EE?
 
  I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj:
 
  The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a
  J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages
  all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS
  instance.
 
  I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I
  started... sigh
 
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  reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info
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RE: 1M STRIPE SIZE BEST?

2002-11-23 Thread Cary Millsap
Jared,

If an I/O call size is bigger than the Striping Unit (the size of one
chunk), then a single I/O call can motivate participation of 2+ disks in
an array. Even if the I/O call size is exactly the same as the striping
unit, it can still motivate activity on 2 disks under normal operating
conditions. See Hank Tullis's explanation at www.hotsos.com/catalog. Of
course, under partial outage conditions, any read to the failed disk and
any write to any disk in the array will engage participation from all
the living disks in the array.


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Still
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 7:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Maybe I've forgotten something fundamental about the way
RAID 5 works, I dunno.

But I'm having a hard time understanding how stripe size is
going to determine the number of heads used in an IO.

RAID 5 distributes the data across all spindles, with 1 or more
of the spindles for any IO being used for the parity data.

Someone care to enlighten me?

Thanks,

Jared

On Thursday 21 November 2002 06:33, Thomas Day wrote:
 We had a discussion about a year ago here and if I remember correctly
the
 best stripe size is a function of number of concurrent users.  With
a
 small number of users you want a small stripe size so that each read
i/o
 will utilize the maximum number of heads.  It will also tie up the
RAID
 device for the duration of the read.  With a large number of users you
want
 a very large stripe size so that a minimum of heads will be used for
each
 read and the RAID device can handle multiple requests at a time.

 I don't recall any specific numbers and, as you say, the technology is
 changing so quickly that a discussion from a year ago may not be
pertinent
 to today's environment.




 Post, Ethan
 Ethan.Post  To: Multiple recipients
of
 list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ps.net cc:
 Sent by: rootSubject: 1M STRIPE SIZE
BEST?


 11/20/2002
 05:53 PM
 Please
 respond to
 ORACLE-L






 A number of papers recommend a stripe size of 1 M (even for EMC) for
 volumes
 containing data files.  I also have the following email from Eyal
Aronoff
 of
 Quest dated Nov 2000.  A number of the white papers are more recent.

 
 The reasons for a larger stripe size on a non-RAID 5 device are:
 1) Sequential reads are faster if you can take advantege of the read
ahead
 built into the disk caching
 2) If a 64K read does not start on the first block of the stripe, two
 spindled are locked for the duration of the read

 However, lately we have been testing some EMC gear and it looks like
EMC
 have optimized both of those for smaller strip size too.

 The bottom line - I no longer have an opinion one way or another. The
 undelying technology just changes too rapidly.

 Eyal
 

 Your opinions/comments as far as a best practice in setting stripe
sizes
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,
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Re: instance shutdown problem ? (please help)

2002-11-23 Thread Arup Nanda
John,

Well, system does not do a shutdown abort. Oracle finds a problem and then 
instance aborts.

A few things you can do here.

(1) See if a trace file is generated around that time in user_dump_dest or 
background_dump_dest that might provide clues. If you see a core fiel in any 
directory named core_* in the core_dump_dest, it has cored dumped.

(2) Start the database from command line. From NT services panel, make the 
services OracleServiceXXX manual, from automatic. Then reboot the box. Start 
the service manually and then see what happens in the process.

(3) Start the instance and service in a command prompt window using oradim 
comamnd. I am not sure of the options; but the oradim command gives a help.

At some point you would hit a problem that is decipherable. Please let us 
know what came out of it.

HTH

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ver 8i NT4.o
all services have been set to automatic and start fine

however the NT Event Viwer and the oracle alert.log
show that the instance being shutdown just after the
box boots up.

how do we rectify this problem ?

below is from the alert.log

ORA-205 signalled during: alter database mount exclusive..
Shutting down instance (abort)
License high water mark = 5
Instance terminated by USER, pid = 144
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please note: the shutdwon was not initiated by any admin
or user but done by the system itself after the box boots
up.

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