oraperf.dll issue

2002-12-02 Thread O'Neill, Sean
8.1.7.1.1 - W2K SP2
we're getting warning messages in the Event Viewer as follows. 

The data buffer created for the Oracle8 service in the
C:\WINNT\system32\oraperf.dll library is not aligned on an 
8-byte boundary. This may cause problems for applications that are trying
to read the performance data buffer. Contact the 
manufacturer of this library or service to have this problem corrected or
to get a newer version of this library. 

It's related to the Windows performance monitor but aside from that I have
no idea what it is or how to address it. 
Does anybody have idea what this is, or the effect of it on the system if
any?  Can we ignore this warning or should we act on it? 

Any answers or suggestions are greatly appreciated. 

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move some records of some tables

2002-12-02 Thread MURAT BALKAS
Hi,

  what's the best method to move some rows of some tables of a user
from one database to another database on another server? I need a step by
step document to achieve this.

Thanks,
Murat


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AW: oraperf.dll issue

2002-12-02 Thread v . schoen
Look at following site:

http://www.eventid.net

HTH

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8.1.7.1.1 - W2K SP2
we're getting warning messages in the Event Viewer as follows. 

The data buffer created for the Oracle8 service in the
C:\WINNT\system32\oraperf.dll library is not aligned on an 
8-byte boundary. This may cause problems for applications that are 
trying
to read the performance data buffer. Contact the 
manufacturer of this library or service to have this problem corrected 
or
to get a newer version of this library. 

It's related to the Windows performance monitor but aside from that I have
no idea what it is or how to address it. 
Does anybody have idea what this is, or the effect of it on the system if
any?  Can we ignore this warning or should we act on it? 

Any answers or suggestions are greatly appreciated. 

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RE: patches

2002-12-02 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: Pro*C for Oracle 817 on Win2000?



Yechiel,

If 
that's your philosophy, and there are known unpatched bugs in the server 
software, how can you be 100 percent sure it will stay up?

Granted, many of these bugs are esoteric, but not 
all.

I am 
curious what Oracle Support consultants do when they have a 24x7 contract, with 
all these patches. Surely they have a list.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
[Boivin, Patrice 
J]-Original Message-From: Yechiel 
Adar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 3:49 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
patches

  We only apply patches as needed and where 
  needed.
  For example: I had a problem with export taking a long 
  time on one system.
  I installed a patch for this problem (after testing in 
  test environment of course) only on that database.
  
  My motto is: If it ain't broken do not fix 
  it.
  
  I have seen too many follow up fixes to install 
  something I do not need.
  
  Yechiel AdarMehish
  
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From: 
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:05 
PM
Subject: patches

I 
am wondering how your sites handle patching production 
servers.

I 
just did a search in MetaLink, since 8174 was released there have been 48 
patches (if I just select RDBMS).

If 
I select other items in my search,I get upwards of 70 additional bug 
fixes.

How do high reliability sites handle patching? I assume they 
would rather fix potential problems (testing the patches on a testbed of 
course) rather than just apply bug fixes as problems are encountered on 
production servers.

regards,
Patrice 
Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle 
Certified DBA) 



RE: Effect of Upgrading O/S to the 817 database !!!

2002-12-02 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Methinks NT version 5 is Windows2000 under another name...  probably a typo
though.

Check the certification matrix, but here we are successfully running
8.1.7.4.5. on Windows2000 servers.

Windows2000 seems to be more stable than NT 4, from what I've seen so far.
Our Windows server administrator certainly things so!  There are caveats re.
Terminal Server though, check the certification matrix.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Jackson - It is a holiday for most of the U.S. folks, but hopefully someone
will get back to you. I am on Unix myself, so of no help to you. My laptop
was recently upgraded from NT to 2000 Professional, and the PC
administrators said that their experience was to not upgrade the system, but
to reformat the hard drive, fresh install Windows 2000 and then reinstall
everything. I think your existing Oracle software should be good to
reinstall, but you should check the compatibility on
http://metalink.oracle.com. And of course you will be doing this on your
test machine before you jeopardize your production system. You don't say
which 8.1.7 version you are using - 8.1.7.4?

Dennis Williams
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Hi

We are currently running Oracle 817 database on a Windows NT, version
5, service pack 6. We need to upgrade O/S to Windows 2000. What should
we do on the database side, do we need to do a new Oracle 817 software
installation after upgrading O/S and try to startup the database or do
we need to do everything from scratch, i.e. install software, create
database and import ?  I tought this should not have an effect on the
database, if that the case, do we then need to just try to startup the
database after O/S upgrade ? Please help ...your response will be
highly appreciated. Desperado

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Re: move some records of some tables

2002-12-02 Thread Connor McDonald
- create database link ...
- insert into ... select from ...
- delete from ...
- commit
- drop database link ...

Cheers
Connor

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RE: Shared Pool Size

2002-12-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Shuan - Bumping up the memory for shared pool and database buffers may well
turn out to be the answer, but before you just jump in and make the changes
and hope for the best, why not dig into the root causes of the slowness
first? Specifically, collect information on the top wait events. I'm not
familiar with Toad, but perhaps it can provide these. My personal favorite
is STATSPACK, which comes with Oracle, but you'll have to install it. Or you
can just directly query the V$ views. If the wait statistics confirm the
need to increase these buffers, once you make the change you can measure
these statistics again and confirm that you are making a positive
improvement.
Also, does your signature have some sort of foreign language font? When
I opened your email I got an error message about that.



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Dear all DBAs,
 
My Oracle 8.0.5(running on Linux 6.4 kernel 2.2.14) is getting slower
recently.
Every data input  utput is slow.
 
And the Server Stat in Toad showing:
Library Cache Get Hit Ratio   51.5540   May need to increase
DB_BLOCK_BUFFERS
Library Cache Pin Hit Ratio   93.6161   Shared Pool area too small
 
Is that means i should increase the size of shared pool and
DB_BLOCK_BUFFERS?
the values in init.ora:
 
db_block_buffers = 550
shared_pool_size = 1900
 
Thanks for helps!

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RE: patches

2002-12-02 Thread John.Hallas
I think I veer towards Yechiel's view here Patrice. I am not sure I have
ever heard anyone suggest applying all outstanding relevant patches to a
database however much you test first. (To be honest you are not advocating
that, just raising the question).
Normal policy wherever I have worked is not to patch unless absolutely
necessary.
 
Another point is that 1 patch can provide a new code piece of binary and
patches are not cumulative. Therefore applying patch a then patch b could
well mean that patch a is overwritten and yet your documentation indicates
that it has been installed.
 
HTH
 
John

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Yechiel,
 
If that's your philosophy, and there are known unpatched bugs in the server
software, how can you be 100 percent sure it will stay up?
 
Granted, many of these bugs are esoteric, but not all.
 
I am curious what Oracle Support consultants do when they have a 24x7
contract, with all these patches.  Surely they have a list.
 
Regards,
Patrice Boivin 
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 

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We only apply patches as needed and where needed.
For example: I had a problem with export taking a long time on one system.
I installed a patch for this problem (after testing in test environment of
course) only on that database.
 
My motto is: If it ain't broken do not fix it.
 
I have seen too many follow up fixes to install something I do not need.
 
Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:05 PM

I am wondering how your sites handle patching production servers.
 
I just did a search in MetaLink, since 8174 was released there have been 48
patches (if I just select RDBMS).
 
If I select other items in my search, I get upwards of 70 additional bug
fixes.
 
How do high reliability sites handle patching?  I assume they would rather
fix potential problems (testing the patches on a testbed of course) rather
than just apply bug fixes as problems are encountered on production servers.
 
regards,
Patrice Boivin 
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
 

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INIT 6 on Solaris not working with Oracle automated scripts?

2002-12-02 Thread Magaliff, Bill
Has anyone encountered a problem rebooting a Solaris box using INIT 6 with
the Oracle dbstart/dbshut scripts enabled?

My sysadmin seems to feel the problem rests with the Oracle scripts - we
issue INIT 6 and nothing happens.

Thanks

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RE: move some records of some tables

2002-12-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Murat - The best method depends on several circumstances such as how much
data is involved. The simplest method if you have two Oracle instances is
export/import. Is the username the same on both instances? Are there
differences between the instances such as NLS character sets? Are both
instances the same Oracle version? Are you moving all the tables for the
user? All the rows in each table? Do those tables already exist on the other
instance? If yes, do the tables already contain data?
   If you are not familiar with the Oracle export/import utilities, a good
start is to look at this link.
http://www.orafaq.net/faqiexp.htm

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Hi,

  what's the best method to move some rows of some tables of a user
from one database to another database on another server? I need a step by
step document to achieve this.

Thanks,
Murat


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RE: patches

2002-12-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
John - Excellent points.
Patrice - One factor to consider is that patches tend to be tested very
little by the software vendor. Full releases get tested extensively, but
even then there are gaps, because well, we wouldn't be having patches
otherwise. 
   If you've ever been a developer at a software vendor, what happens is one
customer reports an error. You verify the error and create a patch to fix
that specific error. But no comprehensive system testing is done. You ship
that patch to fix that problem. 
   Sometimes a vendor will bundle a group of patches together into a patch
bundle. Here the testing is much more extensive than for the single patch,
but still far short of the extensive full release testing.

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I think I veer towards Yechiel's view here Patrice. I am not sure I have
ever heard anyone suggest applying all outstanding relevant patches to a
database however much you test first. (To be honest you are not advocating
that, just raising the question).
Normal policy wherever I have worked is not to patch unless absolutely
necessary.
 
Another point is that 1 patch can provide a new code piece of binary and
patches are not cumulative. Therefore applying patch a then patch b could
well mean that patch a is overwritten and yet your documentation indicates
that it has been installed.
 
HTH
 
John

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Yechiel,
 
If that's your philosophy, and there are known unpatched bugs in the server
software, how can you be 100 percent sure it will stay up?
 
Granted, many of these bugs are esoteric, but not all.
 
I am curious what Oracle Support consultants do when they have a 24x7
contract, with all these patches.  Surely they have a list.
 
Regards,
Patrice Boivin 
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 

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We only apply patches as needed and where needed.
For example: I had a problem with export taking a long time on one system.
I installed a patch for this problem (after testing in test environment of
course) only on that database.
 
My motto is: If it ain't broken do not fix it.
 
I have seen too many follow up fixes to install something I do not need.
 
Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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To: Multiple  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:05 PM

I am wondering how your sites handle patching production servers.
 
I just did a search in MetaLink, since 8174 was released there have been 48
patches (if I just select RDBMS).
 
If I select other items in my search, I get upwards of 70 additional bug
fixes.
 
How do high reliability sites handle patching?  I assume they would rather
fix potential problems (testing the patches on a testbed of course) rather
than just apply bug fixes as problems are encountered on production servers.
 
regards,
Patrice Boivin 
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
 

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Re: INIT 6 on Solaris not working with Oracle automated scripts?

2002-12-02 Thread Gary Chambers
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Which version (and kernel patchlevel) of Solaris?  Which version of
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Re: Effect of Upgrading O/S to the 817 database !!!

2002-12-02 Thread Jared Still

Not a typo:  type 'winver' at the cmd prompt on a win2k machine.

On Monday 02 December 2002 04:53, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
 Methinks NT version 5 is Windows2000 under another name...  probably a typo
 though.

 Check the certification matrix, but here we are successfully running
 8.1.7.4.5. on Windows2000 servers.

 Windows2000 seems to be more stable than NT 4, from what I've seen so far.
 Our Windows server administrator certainly things so!  There are caveats
 re. Terminal Server though, check the certification matrix.

 Regards,
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 Jackson - It is a holiday for most of the U.S. folks, but hopefully someone
 will get back to you. I am on Unix myself, so of no help to you. My laptop
 was recently upgraded from NT to 2000 Professional, and the PC
 administrators said that their experience was to not upgrade the system,
 but to reformat the hard drive, fresh install Windows 2000 and then
 reinstall everything. I think your existing Oracle software should be good
 to reinstall, but you should check the compatibility on
 http://metalink.oracle.com. And of course you will be doing this on your
 test machine before you jeopardize your production system. You don't say
 which 8.1.7 version you are using - 8.1.7.4?

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 we do on the database side, do we need to do a new Oracle 817 software
 installation after upgrading O/S and try to startup the database or do
 we need to do everything from scratch, i.e. install software, create
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RE: Oracle on windows and shadow thread file access

2002-12-02 Thread Grant Allen
 Maybe not all of the data files, but the users dedicated server
 process will open datafiles as needed to read data into the
 block buffer.

 Now I don't know if I've helped any, or just added to the confusion.

 Jared

No, that was pretty much what I wanted to know - was there any time when a
user's dedicated server process - as opposed to smon, pmon, chpt, arch,
lgwr, dbwr, etc. - actually acquired a file handle and opened the file.

Thanks for the discussion on this.

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RE: Oracle 9iR2 on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I installed oracle 9.2 on RH 8.0 and there weren't any major issues.
The only problem was that RH 8.0 comes WITHOUT XMMS I had to download
XMMS myself and to manually relink all my plug-ins (alarm, gtk_list,
normalization,
3D sound and some others). I also had to manually recompile lame and
cdparanoia
and download grip rpm from rpmfind.net. RH rendered my 2000+ MP3 files
that, of course, I have only for testing purposes, completely useless
without
a large effort on my part. This was completely outrageous! 

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 Also, please let me know of any difficulties and workarounds
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 Just put a new 40Gig HD in my laptop, and wondering if I
 can install RH 8.0, or should use 7.2.
 
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RE: IOUG 2003

2002-12-02 Thread Peter Barnett
And Allen Greenspan says inflation is under control...


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 Okay, so I'm trying to get costs for conferences etc
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 I go to the IOUG site and look at costs for the 2003
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 Has anyone on this list, who submitted an abstract,
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RE: move some records of some tables

2002-12-02 Thread MURAT BALKAS

answeres inserted.



   

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Murat - The best method depends on several circumstances such as how much
data is involved. The simplest method if you have two Oracle instances is
export/import.

Is the username the same on both instances?
Yes.

Are there differences between the instances such as NLS character sets?
No, they're the same.

Are both instances the same Oracle version?
Yes.

Are you moving all the tables for the user?
No.

All the rows in each table?
No.

Do those tables already exist on the other instance?
Yes.

If yes, do the tables already contain data?
Yes.

And... Another difference is : Original tables are on the SYSTEM
tablesapce. This was made by mistake. Tables I'll import to are on another
tablespace.

   If you are not familiar with the Oracle export/import utilities, a good
start is to look at this link.
http://www.orafaq.net/faqiexp.htm

  Thanks, I'll look at it.

Dennis Williams
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Hi,

  what's the best method to move some rows of some tables of a user
from one database to another database on another server? I need a step by
step document to achieve this.

Thanks,
Murat


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RE: move some records of some tables

2002-12-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Murat
   Congratulations on moving the tables out of the SYSTEM tablespace. That
is how most of us become better DBAs -- by doing it wrong first. I've
learned those lessons myself. Now I read this list and learn from the
mistakes of others.
   If the tables you are moving data into already contain data, you need to
decide how to make sure you don't end up with duplicate data. If each table
has a primary key, this will prevent duplicate data, but then your import
will fail. If the data overlaps and you want the data from the other
instance to be loaded, you can first delete the data that overlaps and then
import the data.

Dennis Williams
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answeres inserted.



 

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Murat - The best method depends on several circumstances such as how much
data is involved. The simplest method if you have two Oracle instances is
export/import.

Is the username the same on both instances?
Yes.

Are there differences between the instances such as NLS character sets?
No, they're the same.

Are both instances the same Oracle version?
Yes.

Are you moving all the tables for the user?
No.

All the rows in each table?
No.

Do those tables already exist on the other instance?
Yes.

If yes, do the tables already contain data?
Yes.

And... Another difference is : Original tables are on the SYSTEM
tablesapce. This was made by mistake. Tables I'll import to are on another
tablespace.

   If you are not familiar with the Oracle export/import utilities, a good
start is to look at this link.
http://www.orafaq.net/faqiexp.htm

  Thanks, I'll look at it.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi,

  what's the best method to move some rows of some tables of a user
from one database to another database on another server? I need a step by
step document to achieve this.

Thanks,
Murat


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Re: INIT 6 on Solaris not working with Oracle automated

2002-12-02 Thread John Shaw


I'm not having a problem withSolaris 9 and init 6 - in fact I 
have to use init 6 to get my scripts to work. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:58AM Has anyone 
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RE: Oracle 9iR2 on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Oracle 92i runs fine on all recent Linux distros. I've tested it on Mandrake 9.0
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RE: INIT 6 on Solaris not working with Oracle automated scripts?

2002-12-02 Thread Khedr, Waleed
init 6 -- takes the system to level 0 and then back to the default level
specified in /etc/inittab (initdefault) which is usually level 3 (check
/sbin/rc6).

The startup script will need to be linked to level 3 (or whatever default
level you have in inittab).

Also make sure that the shutdown script for Oracle is working if you run it
manually (I remember I had to modify them some time ago, for example check
if it uses the shutdown immediate mode, replace svrmgrl with sqlplus, etc.).

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Has anyone encountered a problem rebooting a Solaris box using INIT 6 with
the Oracle dbstart/dbshut scripts enabled?

My sysadmin seems to feel the problem rests with the Oracle scripts - we
issue INIT 6 and nothing happens.

Thanks

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RE: Import Table from Full Backup

2002-12-02 Thread Veronica Levin
Hi listers,

Thanks for the comments to Dennis and Ron; I knew there was something wrong
with that comment, but decided to ckeck it out with the list just in case :)

thanks for your time!

Saludos,
Veronica Levin Enriquez
Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua


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Veronica,

Ah, rumors are a wonderful thing, especially if they turn out to be true
in our favor. :-)

Not unless it happens to be the only segment in a given tablespace.  A
tablespace is as granular as an RMAN restore/backup can be set.  Even
then, if you were to restore the tablespace to a previous point in time,
the database would not be happy since it would be different than the
control file scn.

HTH,
-Ron-

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Hi Listers, 
Is it true that I can do an import of a table from a full backup that
was done with RMAN? That was a comment I heard today and doesn't make
sense to me, 
any comments?

Saludos,
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process memory utilization

2002-12-02 Thread chao_ping
Hi,dba friends:
I am thinking of measure how much memory per connection used, from the os 
viewpoint and oracle viewpoint. And this is my result from my production server, and i 
have some questions below.


23:56:28 SQL  select sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid) average from v$sesstat 
where statistic#=15; --uga

  SUM(VALUE)  AVERAGE
 
  69,098,528  145,777
 
23:58:09 SQLselect sum(value),sum(value)/count(distinct sid),max(value)  from 
v$sesstat where statistic#=20  --pga

  SUM(VALUE) SUM(VALUE)/COUNT(DISTINCTSID)   MAX(VALUE)
 - 
 265,290,648559,684.9117,510,184

There is about my production server(oracle817+solaris7), and I also used pmap 
to trace some process and it look like:
oracle@main-db1$pmap 11443   #some process id i which is choosed randomly via 
/usr/ucb/ps -aux.
11443:  oraclebiddb (LOCAL=NO)
0001  29440K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101DBE000464K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/bin/oracle
000101E32000   1440K read/write/exec [ heap ]
00038000 5685720K read/write/exec/shared  [ shmid=0x65 ]
7D80 16K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7D902000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libmp.so.2
7DA0 88K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DB14000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libm.so.1
7DC0  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DD0  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libkstat.so.1
7DE0 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7DF06000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/librt.so.1
7E00 24K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E104000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libaio.so.1
7E20704K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3AE000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libc.so.1
7E3BE000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7E40  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E50  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsched.so.1
7E60 32K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E706000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libgen.so.1
7E80 40K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7E908000 16K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libsocket.so.1
7EA0624K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EB9A000 64K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/libnsl.so.1
7EBAA000 32K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7EC0   3896K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0CC000192K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib/libjox8.so
7F0FC000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F30 40K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F408000  8K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libdsbtsh8.so
7F40A000  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F50  8K read/exec 
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F60  8K read/write/exec   
/export/home/oracle/app/product/8.1.7/lib64/libskgxp8.so
7F68128K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F79 16K read/exec 
/usr/platform/sun4u/lib/sparcv9/libc_psr.so.1
7F79E000  8K read/write/exec   /usr/lib/sparcv9/ld.so.1
7F7A  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7B  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7C  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7D  8K read/write/exec/shared   [ anon ]
7F7E  8K read/write/exec [ anon ]
7F7F  8K read/exec /usr/lib/sparcv9/libdl.so.1
7FFEE000 72K read/write  [ stack ]
 total  5723336K

and i compared it with oracle statistics:
00:11:59 SQL @whoisit
00:12:02 SQL col machine format a30
00:12:02 SQL col program format a40
00:12:02 SQL set line 200
00:12:02 SQL  select sid,serial# 
,username,osuser,machine,program,process,to_char(logon_time,'/mm/dd hh24:mi:ss')
00:12:02   2   from v$session where paddr in(
00:12:02   3   select addr from v$process where spid in(spid));
Enter value for spid: 11443
old   3:  select addr from v$process where spid in(spid))
new   3:  select addr from v$process where spid in(11443))

   SIDSERIAL# USERNAME   OSUSER 
MACHINEPROGRAM  PROCESS   
TO_CHAR(LOGON_TIME,
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RE: Oracle 9iR2 on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks, RH 8.0 it is.







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I installed oracle 9.2 on RH 8.0 and there weren't any major issues.
The only problem was that RH 8.0 comes WITHOUT XMMS I had to download
XMMS myself and to manually relink all my plug-ins (alarm, gtk_list,
normalization,
3D sound and some others). I also had to manually recompile lame and
cdparanoia
and download grip rpm from rpmfind.net. RH rendered my 2000+ MP3 files
that, of course, I have only for testing purposes, completely useless
without
a large effort on my part. This was completely outrageous! 

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 If you've installed Oracle 9i on RH 8.0, please let me know.
 
 Also, please let me know of any difficulties and workarounds
 you may have encountered.
 
 Just put a new 40Gig HD in my laptop, and wondering if I
 can install RH 8.0, or should use 7.2.
 
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RE: Oracle 9iR2 on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks. RH 8.0 is much nicer than 7.2





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Oracle 92i runs fine on all recent Linux distros. I've tested it on 
Mandrake 9.0
and all's well.

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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Miller, Jay
I was told by the department manager that they were neither using a direct
load nor the Append hint.
But the developer is back from vacation today so I'll get a more definite
answer from him.

Thanks,
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How are the inserts being done?  Are you doing an insert with append hint?

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Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier this week I got an ORA-1653:
unable to extend table on a really big table.  However this was just after I
had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we were only inserting
30,000.

After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in DBA_TABLES:

num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895

Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available for
inserts.

We tried the insert again and got the same error so I added a datafile and
it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the new datafile).

Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on the freelist?

Oracle 8.1.7.2
Solaris 2.6
PCTFREE = 10
PCTUSED = 75
Block Size = 4K


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RE: Oracle on windows and shadow thread file access

2002-12-02 Thread Fink, Dan
On UNIX, when a user process needs to access data, it will open the files of
interest. The background processes 'attach' to all of the files when the
OPEN state of the database is achieved. They do not open each file when they
need to read/write. For example, CKPT attaches to the files and will
maintain the handle as long as the process is running.

Why do I know this, you ask? One afternoon, a support tech moved a datafile
since the device was 95% full. User queries would fail when trying to open
the file, but checkpoints were succeeding and we could even dump the file
headers without any problem. After discussing this situation with the SAs,
we postulated that the background processes were keeping the files open and
thus were still attached to the files original location. If we shutdown the
background processes, the files would have been closed and the original
blocks released. Once we resolved the issue, the support techs were
scheduled for Oracle 101 training immediately!

On Windows, they handle files slightly differently and I am not sure.

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On Friday 29 November 2002 08:43, Jeff Herrick wrote:
 My understanding
 from the question was that he was wondering whether each
 user's process in a dedicated-server configuration opened
 all of the datafiles too

Maybe not all of the data files, but the users dedicated server
process will open datafiles as needed to read data into the
block buffer.

Now I don't know if I've helped any, or just added to the confusion.

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Apps 11i on Red Hat 8.0

2002-12-02 Thread Dale
Anyone care to share any experiences installing Apps 11i release 7 on RH
8.0? I'm about to give it a go in the next couple of days - and would
appreciate hearing about your experiences.

I note that SUSE 7.1 seems to be the only officially certified distro.
H.

Oracle Trivia Question: If you order the Oracle Apps 11i Release 7 suite
from Oracle how many CD's do you get?
Answer: 54 (yes thats right, fifty four CD's) - the mind boggles. No wonder
they don't let you download the thing :-)

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Help with Query

2002-12-02 Thread Ramon E. Estevez
Title: Message




Hi list I need 
some help with a query. I have 3 tables ORIGINALES, CAMBIOS_ORIGINALES, 
DATOS_FABRICANTES, I have to be able to query an article for whatever code the 
user
provide, ex: 
(NUMERO_ORIGINAL, CAMBIO_ORIGINAL, NUMERO_FABRICANTE). The 3 
tables
have a common 
column, NUMERO_ORIGINAL.

When he type a 
code, no matter which one, I have to display the NUMERO_ORIGINAL, 

CAMBIO_ORIGINAL(s), NUMERO_FABRICANTE(s) and the 
DESCRIPTION of the article. I merged 
the 3 codes in the 
CODIGO_ARTICULO column to make the join for that column, but I can't 
get
the DESCRIPTION of 
the article.

Any help would be 
appreciated,

SQL DESC 
ORIGINALESName 
---GRUPO 
COMPANIA 
NUMERO_ORIGINAL 
NRO_DESCRIPCION 


SQL DESC 
CAMBIOS_ORIGINALESName 
GRUPO 
COMPANIA 
NUMERO_ORIGINAL 
CAMBIO_ORIGINAL 
SERIE 


SQL DESC 
DATOS_FABRICANTESName 
---GRUPO 
COMPANIA 
NUMERO_ORIGINAL 
NUMERO_FABRICANTE 
LOCALIDAD 


*** This is what 
I came up with 

CREATE OR REPLACE 
VIEW V_ARTICULOS AS
SELECTO.NUMERO_ORIGINAL 
CODIGO_ARTICULO,  
O.NUMERO_ORIGINAL, D.DESCRIPCION, ' ' CAMBIO_ORIGINAL, ' ' 
NUMERO_FABRICANTE FROM ORIGINALES O, DESCRIPCIONES 
D WHERE 
D.NRO_DESCRIPCION = 
O.NRO_DESCRIPCIONUNIONSELECTC.CAMBIO_ORIGINAL 
CODIGO_ARTICULO, 
' 
', 
' ', 
C.CAMBIO_ORIGINAL, ' ' NUMERO_FABRICANTE 
FROM CAMBIOS_ORIGINALES CUNIONSELECTD.NUMERO_FABRICANTE 
CODIGO_ARTICULO,  ' 
', 
' ', ' 
', 
D.NUMERO_FABRICANTE FROM DATOS_FABRICANTES 
D

/



CODIGO_ARTICULO 
NUMERO_ORIGINAL 
DESCRIPCION 
CAMBIO_ORIGINAL 
NUMERO_FABRICANTE  
--  
1 
1 
DESCRIPCION UNO101-122519C1020 
12251-PC1-020 
101-122519C1020101-12251PC1000 
12251-PC1-020 
101-12251PC100010A 
10A 
DESCRIPCION 
UNO10 
10A 
1010ABC 
10A 
10ABC12251-PC1-020 
12251-PC1-020 JUNTA DE 
CULATA12345 
12345 
DESCRIPCION 
UNO12345A 
12345 
12345A12345AA 
12345 
12345AA1414-TT-1414-BR 
3 
1414-TT-1414-BR147 
147 
DESCRIPCION UNO



Ramon E. 
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Partition Info

2002-12-02 Thread Sergei
Hello everybody.
I have a number of tables with range by date partitions.  I need to
write a script to monitor the latest partitions and send me an e-mail if
it's close to a current date.

I am just looking for tables or views that will help me find out the
date of the last partition.

Sergei.




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RE: Oracle on windows and shadow thread file access

2002-12-02 Thread Khedr, Waleed
I guess it has to do with the fact that Oracle on Windows is a single
process multithreads.
So any opened file in the main thread will be accessible and opened for the
spawned threads (correct me if I'm wrong).

So concurrent access to the files would need to be controlled by O/S
resources like mutex.

It would be helpful if some one with multithread programming experience in
Windows could shed some light here.

Regards,

Waleed

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On UNIX, when a user process needs to access data, it will open the files of
interest. The background processes 'attach' to all of the files when the
OPEN state of the database is achieved. They do not open each file when they
need to read/write. For example, CKPT attaches to the files and will
maintain the handle as long as the process is running.

Why do I know this, you ask? One afternoon, a support tech moved a datafile
since the device was 95% full. User queries would fail when trying to open
the file, but checkpoints were succeeding and we could even dump the file
headers without any problem. After discussing this situation with the SAs,
we postulated that the background processes were keeping the files open and
thus were still attached to the files original location. If we shutdown the
background processes, the files would have been closed and the original
blocks released. Once we resolved the issue, the support techs were
scheduled for Oracle 101 training immediately!

On Windows, they handle files slightly differently and I am not sure.

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On Friday 29 November 2002 08:43, Jeff Herrick wrote:
 My understanding
 from the question was that he was wondering whether each
 user's process in a dedicated-server configuration opened
 all of the datafiles too

Maybe not all of the data files, but the users dedicated server
process will open datafiles as needed to read data into the
block buffer.

Now I don't know if I've helped any, or just added to the confusion.

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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Miller, Jay
Okay, I just heard back from the developer.  It was definitely not using
either a Direct load or and Append hint.  Just a regular insert.

Any more ideas?

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Did you insert using direct path ? 
If so the insert inserts after the highwater mark.
The highwater mark is not reinitialized after deletes.
So maybe that's why the insert failed.
 


 --- Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier
this
 week I got an ORA-1653:
 unable to extend table on a really big table. 
 However this was just after I
 had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we
 were only inserting
 30,000.
 
 After reanalyzing the table I saw the following
 stats in DBA_TABLES:
 
 num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
 avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
 
 Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over
 8Gig available for
 inserts.
 
 We tried the insert again and got the same error so
 I added a datafile and
 it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the
 new datafile).
 
 Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on
 the freelist?
 
 Oracle 8.1.7.2
 Solaris 2.6
 PCTFREE = 10
 PCTUSED = 75
 Block Size = 4K
 
 
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Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list here)
to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
nicely to the unix uptime command.  

We had some maintenance last Wed night that bounced the host (Tru64
5.1a cluster) and naturally the database as well.  But when I looked at
the host uptime compared to the db_uptime.sql, it looks like the
database has been up longer than the host.  The db is 8.1.7.3.  The host
is a Tru64 Compaq (er HP) GS160 AlphaWildfire machine.  We are in a
cluster, but the databases are all still running on one node.  

  1* select STARTUP_TIME from v$instance
SQL /
27-NOV-2002 18:30:12

SQL @db_uptime
Database Uptime

Host Name : dgrdb01.firsthealth.com
Instance Name : CLAIM
Uptime : 4days 21hours 53minutes

SQL !uptime
15:40  up 4 days, 14:52,  7 users,  load average: 4.13, 6.93, 7.08

SQL select sysdate from dual;

SYSDATE

02-DEC-2002 15:40:39

SQL 

Is there something wrong with the script or just a misalignment in the
starts?

Stephen Andert
(confused in AZ)


-- db_uptime.sql
select
'Host Name : '||host_name||chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name||chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
||floor((xx-floor(xx))*24)||'hours '
   
||round(((xx-floor(xx)*24)-floor((xx-floor(xx)*24)))*60)
||'minutes'
Database Uptime
from (
select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
from v$instance
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Re: Partition Info

2002-12-02 Thread Igor Neyman
Sergei

Check HIGH_VALUE column in DBA_TAB_PARTITIONS and compare it to current
date.

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 Hello everybody.
 I have a number of tables with range by date partitions.  I need to
 write a script to monitor the latest partitions and send me an e-mail if
 it's close to a current date.

 I am just looking for tables or views that will help me find out the
 date of the last partition.

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9i database create script - My, how things have changed

2002-12-02 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: 9i database create script - My, how things have changed





...since 8.1.7. I've always ran the database creation utility, then swiped the scripts outta the admin\[sid]\create\ directory, scrubbed 'em a bit, and let er rip. My consultants create/install new db's quite frequently, and the 8.1.7 *.bat's work quite well for 'em.

However, as I'm sure you've all figgered out already, this don't work no mo. I've taken some cursory rambles thru orafaq, but came out more confused than I came in. I don't want to rely on installing perl or Oracle DCA on each machine, as the consultants I'm supporting aren't going to be too keen on having to go from their current hit the .bat and wait til it says all done MO.

So, I'm sure a solution or twenty has been put together for NT/Windows. Care to share? I'm sure I could re-invent this particular wheel, but my boss keeps hollering at me for stuff that I'm actually supposed to produce, so If'n I can turn this one around in a reasonable time, I'd be much abliged.




RE: Partition Info

2002-12-02 Thread Khedr, Waleed
DBA_TAB_PARTITIONS

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Hello everybody.
I have a number of tables with range by date partitions.  I need to
write a script to monitor the latest partitions and send me an e-mail if
it's close to a current date.

I am just looking for tables or views that will help me find out the
date of the last partition.

Sergei.




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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Miller, Jay
Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

Jay

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

--- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,
 
 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.
 
 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.
 
 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
 
 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:29 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed. 
 
 
 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
  
  Richard Ji
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 2:05 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  did u coalesced the tablespaces?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: sexta-feira, 29 de Novembro de 2002 17:59
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier this week I got an
  ORA-1653:
  unable to extend table on a really big table.  However this was
 just
  after I
  had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we were only
  inserting
  30,000.
  
  After reanalyzing the table I saw the following stats in
 DBA_TABLES:
  
  num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
  avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
  
  Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over 8Gig available
 for
  inserts.
  
  We tried the insert again and got the same error so I added a
  datafile and
  it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the new datafile).
  
  Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on the freelist?
  
  Oracle 8.1.7.2
  Solaris 2.6
  PCTFREE = 10
  PCTUSED = 75
  Block Size = 4K
  
  
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Error SP2-0642 when Killing Session?

2002-12-02 Thread Mark Richard
Hi All,

A tester has come across a problem testing an SQL script.  The script
contains an anonymous block which loops through a cursor, writing lines to
an output file (using UTL_FILE.PUT_LINE) and deleting rows from a table.

The tester is attempting to test failure of the script midway through
execution.  To do this they are using alter system kill session 'xx,
yy';.  Unfortunately when they do this they receive the following error
hundreds of times...

...
SP2-0642: SQL*Plus internal error state 2167, context 4294967294:2:0
Unable to proceed
SP2-0642: SQL*Plus internal error state 2167, context 4294967294:2:0
Unable to proceed
SP2-0642: SQL*Plus internal error state 2167, context 4294967294:2:0
Unable to proceed
SP2-0642: SQL*Plus internal error state 2167, context 4294967294:2:0
Unable to proceed
Segmentation Fault(coredump)

Any ideas what might be causing this problem?  Any other suggestions for
making the script fail midway through execution that might avoid this bug?

Also, since the script uses dbms_output.put_line to log some progress
messages, can they still expect these to appear after the session is
killed?

Thanks in advance,
  Mark.

PS:  Oracle is 8.1.7.4.0 (EE) on Solaris, script is being executed via
SQL*Plus 8.1.7.0.0 on Solaris also.

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RE: Oracle on windows and shadow thread file access

2002-12-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Oracle on windows and shadow thread file access





I recently downloaded program which is like 'truss' but works in windows environment ... called strace ... from sysinternals.com it shows all files it accesses and all sys calls it makes. Not exactly what you need ... but close by I guess .. they also have a bunch of utilities one that might interest you is filemon.

www.sysinternals.com is a good site ... I found it few years ago and I regularly visit them to find neat tools.


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Re: 9i database create script - My, how things have changed

2002-12-02 Thread Jared . Still
Would you be interested a set of KSH scripts that generate
the SQL scripts to create a database?

These are for 8i.  I've started to modify for 9i differences, but
haven't gotten too far.

Not too much work to modify them.

Lemme know,

Jared





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...since 8.1.7. I've always ran the database creation utility, then swiped 
the scripts outta the admin\[sid]\create\ directory, scrubbed 'em a bit, 
and let er rip. My consultants create/install new db's quite frequently, 
and the 8.1.7 *.bat's work quite well for 'em.
However, as I'm sure you've all figgered out already, this don't work no 
mo. I've taken some cursory rambles thru orafaq, but came out more 
confused than I came in. I don't want to rely on installing perl or Oracle 
DCA on each machine, as the consultants I'm supporting aren't going to be 
too keen on having to go from their current hit the .bat and wait til it 
says all done MO.
So, I'm sure a solution or twenty has been put together for NT/Windows. 
Care to share? I'm sure I could re-invent this particular wheel, but my 
boss keeps hollering at me for stuff that I'm actually supposed to 
produce, so If'n I can turn this one around in a reasonable time, I'd be 
much abliged.


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Re: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephane Faroult
Stephen Andert wrote:
 
 I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list here)
 to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
 nicely to the unix uptime command.
 
 We had some maintenance last Wed night that bounced the host (Tru64
 5.1a cluster) and naturally the database as well.  But when I looked at
 the host uptime compared to the db_uptime.sql, it looks like the
 database has been up longer than the host.  The db is 8.1.7.3.  The host
 is a Tru64 Compaq (er HP) GS160 AlphaWildfire machine.  We are in a
 cluster, but the databases are all still running on one node.
 
   1* select STARTUP_TIME from v$instance
 SQL /
 27-NOV-2002 18:30:12
 
 SQL @db_uptime
 Database Uptime
 
 Host Name : dgrdb01.firsthealth.com
 Instance Name : CLAIM
 Uptime : 4days 21hours 53minutes
 
 SQL !uptime
 15:40  up 4 days, 14:52,  7 users,  load average: 4.13, 6.93, 7.08
 
 SQL select sysdate from dual;
 
 SYSDATE
 
 02-DEC-2002 15:40:39
 
 SQL
 
 Is there something wrong with the script or just a misalignment in the
 starts?
 
 Stephen Andert
 (confused in AZ)
 
 -- db_uptime.sql
 select
 'Host Name : '||host_name||chr(10)||
 'Instance Name : '||instance_name||chr(10)||
 'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
 ||floor((xx-floor(xx))*24)||'hours '
 
 ||round(((xx-floor(xx)*24)-floor((xx-floor(xx)*24)))*60)
 ||'minutes'
 Database Uptime
 from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
  )
 

Stephen,

   I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60 -
you have tremendous rounding errors.
My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it but
I believe the following to be correct :

select
'Host Name : '||host_name||chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name||chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
 ||floor(xx * 24 - floor(xx * 24))||'hours '
||round((xx * 86400)/60)
 ||'minutes' Database Uptime
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
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SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-02 Thread Post, Ethan
Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't had
time to write.

It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service level
for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some sort of
way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger would
log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup time against
the last startup time periodically to ensure the trigger always fires.
Somehow a procedure/function should be able to use this information to
report the service level for the database within the last
(week/month/quarter/year).

I suppose I will get around to it eventually but if anyone else wants to get
started on it I won't mind!

Thanks,
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Re: Help with Query

2002-12-02 Thread Stephane Faroult
 Ramon E. Estevez wrote:
 
 
 Hi list I need some help with a query.  I have 3 tables ORIGINALES,
 CAMBIOS_ORIGINALES, DATOS_FABRICANTES, I have to be able to query an
 article for whatever code the user
 provide, ex: (NUMERO_ORIGINAL, CAMBIO_ORIGINAL, NUMERO_FABRICANTE).
 The 3 tables
 have a common column, NUMERO_ORIGINAL.
 
 When he type a code, no matter which one, I have to display the
 NUMERO_ORIGINAL,
 CAMBIO_ORIGINAL(s), NUMERO_FABRICANTE(s) and the DESCRIPTION of the
 article. I merged
 the 3 codes in the CODIGO_ARTICULO column to make the join for that
 column, but I can't get
 the DESCRIPTION of the article.
 
 Any help would be appreciated,
 

Ramon,

  Your mistake is not to join (on NUMERO_ORIGINAL) with ORIGINALES in
the second and third SELECTs of your union - which by the way would be
better defined as UNION ALL to avoid a sort.

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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Ron Thomas

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what degree of parallelism is defined for 
the table?
What is the next extent size set to?
If the table is paralleled, EACH parallel worker will grab a next extent sized 
segment. (Been bit by
this a few times...)
How many indexes and are they in the same tablespace?

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Yep, I agree that coalescing is irrelevant in my current situation.  In any
event there was no free space until I added the additional datafile but
there was the 8gig of space on the freelists.

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Richard,

if pctincrease is zero, and there are a large number of contiguous
smaller extents, SMON will not automatically coalesce the tablespace.
However, whether or not SMON does an automatic coalesce, if you need an
extent that is larger than any of the small ones, Oracle will coalesce
those smaller extents to make the one you need. so Jay would not have
needed to add a datafile no matter what, if he was not doing a direct
path insert.

As for meeting in person there is a user group meeting on Dec 12
(check www.nyoug.org for details). You can meet me, and more
importantly you can meet Tim Gorman, Dan Fink, Arup Nanda and Anita
Bardeen, also of this list. They are all presenting :)

I saw Priscilla about a month ago, haven't talked with her since.

Rachel

--- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rachel,

 What I mean to say is when there are a lot of contiguous smaller free
 extents.
 Then coalesce will produce a larger free extent so Jay wouldn't have
 to
 add a datafile for his table to grow.

 On the automatically coalescing part, I believe SMON will only
 coalesce
 when pctincrease != 0, or has that changed?  My understand could be
 outdated.
 With LMT one doesn't have to worry about it.

 Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

 PS, I am in New York too, would love to meet you in person some time.
  Have
 you
 talked to Priscilla lately?

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 how would coalescing help even if there were a lot of smaller free
 extents? Oracle would do the coalesce automatically, there would be
 no
 difference between manually coalescing or allowing Oracle to do it
 when
 a new extent was needed.


 --- Richard Ji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Coalescing might help if there are many smaller free extents
  that can be coalesced.  But that still doesn't solve Jay's problem.
  Because he doesn't want the table to extent at all since he just
  deleted
  2 million rows so there are plenty of space within the segment
  itself.
  Those free blocks should be used, unless he is doing a direct path
  insert
  which will only use space above the HWM.
 
  Richard Ji
 
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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Govind.Arumugam
My experience yesterday was that dropping an index and trying to rebuild the same 
index failed ( even after coalescing the tablespace) since we need to wait for SMON to 
clean up the extents to make them available. I don't know how we make SMON process to 
coalesce the free space faster enough( or immediately after we delete from the table 
or dropping an index ).

Any ideas?

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Okay, I just heard back from the developer.  It was definitely not using
either a Direct load or and Append hint.  Just a regular insert.

Any more ideas?

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Did you insert using direct path ? 
If so the insert inserts after the highwater mark.
The highwater mark is not reinitialized after deletes.
So maybe that's why the insert failed.
 


 --- Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :  Okay, I can't figure this one out.  Earlier
this
 week I got an ORA-1653:
 unable to extend table on a really big table. 
 However this was just after I
 had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and we
 were only inserting
 30,000.
 
 After reanalyzing the table I saw the following
 stats in DBA_TABLES:
 
 num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
 avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
 
 Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over
 8Gig available for
 inserts.
 
 We tried the insert again and got the same error so
 I added a datafile and
 it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the
 new datafile).
 
 Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on
 the freelist?
 
 Oracle 8.1.7.2
 Solaris 2.6
 PCTFREE = 10
 PCTUSED = 75
 Block Size = 4K
 
 
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RE: Partition Info : thank you

2002-12-02 Thread Sergei

Got it

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Sergei

Check HIGH_VALUE column in DBA_TAB_PARTITIONS and compare it to current
date.

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 Hello everybody.
 I have a number of tables with range by date partitions.  I need to
 write a script to monitor the latest partitions and send me an e-mail
if
 it's close to a current date.

 I am just looking for tables or views that will help me find out the
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Re: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-02 Thread Jared . Still
Ethan,

That records the startup times, but does not record the time 
that the database was unavailable.

What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
on the database being up to record metrics.

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Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't had
time to write.

It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service level
for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some sort of
way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger would
log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup time against
the last startup time periodically to ensure the trigger always fires.
Somehow a procedure/function should be able to use this information to
report the service level for the database within the last
(week/month/quarter/year).

I suppose I will get around to it eventually but if anyone else wants to 
get
started on it I won't mind!

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Re: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Meg Crocker

On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60 -
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) || 'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
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Advisory: Lawson Financials RDBMS Insecurity

2002-12-02 Thread Jared . Still
This may be of interest to some.  I believe there are
a number of folks on the list with Lawson systems.

jared

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+---+
| Advisory: lawson001|
|Author(s): John Eisenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |
|   George Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Release Date: December 02, 2002|
|   Vendor: Lawson   |
|  Application: Financials (possibly others) |
|Affected Versions: 8.x Environment  |
|   Affected Platforms: Solaris (possibly others)|
|   Affected Databases: Oracle (possibly others) |
+---+

Summary
---
Lawson Financials does not adequately secure data held in third-party
relational databases.

Background
--
Lawson Software was founded in 1975 by Richard Lawson to develop
turn-key accounting and business systems. Depending on the platform,
Financials was originally written in either RPG or COBOL. All data was
stored in a proprietary flat file database called LADB.

The Lawson Applications (including Financials) run in an abstraction
layer called the environment. The purpose of the environment is to
present information in a uniform manner regardless of the host operating
system.  The current 8.0 environment supports the following operating
systems:
-AIX
-Digital Unix/Tru64
-HP-UX
-Sun Solaris
-Windows NT/2000

Several years ago, the environment was retrofitted to integrate with
popular third-party relational database. These include:
-IBM DB2/UDB
-Informix
-Microsoft SQL Server
-Oracle
-Sybase

As of the release of the 8.0 environment, Lawson only supports the use
of a third-party relational database for production systems.

For the sake of brevity, this paper will only make specific reference to
a Lawson 8.0 environment installation on Sun Solaris with Oracle as the
repository. It is likely, however, that the issues raised here will more
than likely pose the same risks to other Unix variants and Windows.

Detailed Description

There are three standard ways to configure Lawson to work with a
third-party RDBMS:

1) Oracle database authentication
2) Operating system authentication with a single Lawson user name
3) Operating system authentication with multiple Lawson user names

Setup #1 employs a single username and password for all transactions
within the database.  This username and password are stored in a
world-readable text file called the capital database file:

bash-2.03$ ls -l [A-Z]*
-rw-rw-rw-   1 lawson   lawson   106 Jun 11 12:10 IBM
-rw-rw-rw-   1 lawson   lawson   123 Jun 11 12:10 INFORMIX
-rw-rw-rw-   1 lawson   lawson   272 Jun 13 08:40 ORACLE
-rw-rw-rw-   1 lawson   lawson   124 Jun 11 12:10 SYBASE

As you can see, the default permission is 666 (world readable), and
ownership defaults to group lawson. All users of Financials must be a
primary member of group lawson, which means any user with shell access
can see the contents of this file. Shell access is required for using
the Lawson.Insight Desktop (LID) interface. Please note: the default
permissions on this file can be changed to 400, and ownership of the
file given to root, however this is not suggested anywhere in the
install documents, nor is it mentioned by the Lawson certified installer
required to certify your installation.

Once an unprivileged user obtains this password, they can easily
establish a connection to the database through a connector like ODBC or
JDBC. Since the lawson user is the database owner, these credentials
make it possible to read, alter, or destroy the database.

Setup #1 tends to be the preferred configuration method by Lawson
installers, despite the fact that the Lawson Oracle Setup and Tools
Guide (version 8.0.2, published May 2002) reflects that this is not a
good method to use (page 41). NOTE: The text is not reproduced here due
to Lawson's copyright.

Setup #2 requires that Oracle is setup to use the operating systems'
authentication mechanism. This method utilizes a single account, which
still reflects the lack of database auditing and logging as mentioned
above. This method is more secure than the previous #1 because the
password to the single account is not available in the world-readable
text file. If this single password is compromised, the system remains

RE: Partition Info

2002-12-02 Thread Govind.Arumugam
You may use the following query will identify the 'highest' partition by date range.

select partition_name, partition_position , high_value, tablespace_name
from dba_tab_partitions
where table_name = 'table_name'
and table_owner = 'owner'
and partition_position = ( select max(partition_position)
from dba_tab_partitions
where table_name = 'table_name'
and table_owner = 'owner' )

You can store the high_value in another table and start manipulating the way 
you want such as:

select max(add_months( to_date( substr(high_value,3,19), 'S-MM-DD HH24:MI:SS' ), 1 
))
into new_high_value
from temp_table

I don't know how we can directly manipulate HIGH_VALUE column in dba_tab_partitions.  
But I have tried the above in a PL/SQL program and it worked.

Hope this helps.

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DBA_TAB_PARTITIONS

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Hello everybody.
I have a number of tables with range by date partitions.  I need to
write a script to monitor the latest partitions and send me an e-mail if
it's close to a current date.

I am just looking for tables or views that will help me find out the
date of the last partition.

Sergei.




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Re: SLA Trigger/Procedure

2002-12-02 Thread Mark Richard
Perhaps there is a poor mans way of doing this.  The startup trigger
could fire a procedure that inserts a row into a table and then sleeps for
1 minute before doing the same again.  Effectively it would create a ping
in the table, which you could then analyze / graph to display uptimes.

The next logical step would be to increase the intelligence of the
procedure.  The table storing the statistic could consist of two columns -
uptime and downtime.  When the startup trigger fires it creates a new row
in the table with both uptime and downtime set to sysdate.  It then sleeps
for a minute before updating downtime for the most recent record (either
remember a primary key or search for max(uptime)).  This would be much
easier to understand when the database was stopped / started.

Of course depending on your accuracy requirement, granularity could be
changed to every 5 minutes, 10 minutes, whatever.

Hopefully that gives some ideas though.  Of course the 3rd party monitors
that Jared mentions are worth considering if the database is considered
critical.  In that case the number one requirement is probably the ability
to page / SMS / email when it sees the database is down.

Regards,
 Mark.



   

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Ethan,

That records the startup times, but does not record the time
that the database was unavailable.

What's needed is a 3rd party monitor that is not dependent
on the database being up to record metrics.

Jared





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Just a thought here for a script I think would be handy but I haven't had
time to write.

It is would be a simple procedure you could call to get the service level
for a particular database.  I suppose you would have to have some sort of
way of defining normal outage windows.  Basically a startup trigger would
log the times in a table.  You should also check the startup time against
the last startup time periodically to ensure the trigger always fires.
Somehow a procedure/function should be able to use this information to
report the service level for the database within the last
(week/month/quarter/year).

I suppose I will get around to it eventually but if anyone else wants to
get
started on it I won't mind!

Thanks,
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Re: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Mark Richard
Stephen,

If I was in your position I would go and explain to your boss that your
mad DBA skillz have resulted in a database that has better uptime than
it's physical host even, and discuss a pay rise!  Fixing the script will
probably return your status to mere mortal DBA.



   
 
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60 -
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) || 'minutes
'
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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RE: ORA-1653: unable to extend table - Why?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephane Paquette
Check oradebug to wake up smon


 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  My
experience yesterday was that dropping an index
 and trying to rebuild the same index failed ( even
 after coalescing the tablespace) since we need to
 wait for SMON to clean up the extents to make them
 available. I don't know how we make SMON process to
 coalesce the free space faster enough( or
 immediately after we delete from the table or
 dropping an index ).
 
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 Okay, I just heard back from the developer.  It was
 definitely not using
 either a Direct load or and Append hint.  Just a
 regular insert.
 
 Any more ideas?
 
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 Did you insert using direct path ? 
 If so the insert inserts after the highwater mark.
 The highwater mark is not reinitialized after
 deletes.
 So maybe that's why the insert failed.
  
 
 
  --- Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
 écrit :  Okay, I can't figure this one out. 
 Earlier
 this
  week I got an ORA-1653:
  unable to extend table on a really big table. 
  However this was just after I
  had deleted over 2 million rows in the table and
 we
  were only inserting
  30,000.
  
  After reanalyzing the table I saw the following
  stats in DBA_TABLES:
  
  num_freelist_blocks:  2266966
  avg_space_freelist_blocks: 3895
  
  Unless I'm misreading this I should have had over
  8Gig available for
  inserts.
  
  We tried the insert again and got the same error
 so
  I added a datafile and
  it went through (using about 40Meg of space in the
  new datafile).
  
  Why isn't it making use of the existing blocks on
  the freelist?
  
  Oracle 8.1.7.2
  Solaris 2.6
  PCTFREE = 10
  PCTUSED = 75
  Block Size = 4K
  
  
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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Govind.Arumugam
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953  16

Hope this is what you wanted.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60 -
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) || 'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
Govind, 

Actually, what I want it the same format as I have, I just want the
numbers to match (or fall within) the numbers reported by the unix
uptime command for example up 4 days, 21:08 hours.  In my case, the
unix uptime is saying the host was last restarted after the database
startup_time reported in v$instance.  

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:43PM 
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in
minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953  16

Hope this is what you wanted.

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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Re: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
With my luck and the damagement in my current workplace, I'd probably
get a written warning for not having done this with all of our databases
:)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:24PM 
Stephen,

If I was in your position I would go and explain to your boss that
your
mad DBA skillz have resulted in a database that has better uptime
than
it's physical host even, and discuss a pay rise!  Fixing the script
will
probably return your status to mere mortal DBA.



   

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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes
'
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Sathyanaryanan_K/VGIL
Try this out. thisqry is working well for hrs and mins. hop u modify this
qry get for hrs also
wishes
select
(((sysdate-startup_time)*60*24-mod((sysdate-startup_time)*60*24,60))/60)HRS
,
round(mod((sysdate-startup_time)*60*24,60))MIN from v$instance

Wishes

Sathyanarayanan




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Govind,

Actually, what I want it the same format as I have, I just want the
numbers to match (or fall within) the numbers reported by the unix
uptime command for example up 4 days, 21:08 hours.  In my case, the
unix uptime is saying the host was last restarted after the database
startup_time reported in v$instance.

Stephen

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:43PM 
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in
minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953  16

Hope this is what you wanted.

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

 Stephen Andert wrote:
 
  I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
  to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
  nicely to the unix uptime command.

I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
 wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
 you have tremendous rounding errors.
 My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
 I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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