RE: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT

2003-08-08 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Title: RE: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT



David,

The 
best way to see if this works is to create a test table. populate it with 
some data. Add a column with a default value.

and 
observer what happens.

best 
way to learn.

Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Ehresmann, David 
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  last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT
  I 
  understand that part. What the programmer is saying that you can not add 
  the last column to a table with a default value. Does that sound 
  reasonable?
  thanks, Raj.
  David.
  
-Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 07, 
2003 1:25 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: last column in a table is added with a 
DEFAULT
as soon as you add a column all depending code goes invalid, 
the dependency checking process doesn't discriminate about the default 
value.
Raj  
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
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personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
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-Original Message- From: 
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Has anybody ever heard of this? I have a developer 
saying this is an oracle bug. It caused some 
packages to go invalid. 
"The error seems to be related to a bug in oracle caused 
when the last column in a table is added with a 
default." 
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Re: Implementing different document types with different attributes

2003-08-08 Thread Thomas Day

What do you have as an example of an attribute?



   

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Hello


I've an installation/implementation question!
We've to analyse 50 document types, in total those 50 has 70 different
attributes.
We don't want to put all those document types into one table, because more
than the half (35) of the attributes are not always used for each document
type. This will have to much disk space for each record, if most of the
fields are just blank.


Has anyone suggestions how to build our table-structure?
I've heart something about FlexFields, what are they?
Takes every field diskspace, even if it's blank (null)?


Thanks in advance for the response!


Tim








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Re: 100 instances on same server !!!

2003-08-08 Thread Dilip Patel




Thanks for the replies so far. Considering the fact that my database is 
tiny ( just around 3 GB ), How many of them can work on same server? I can just 
test with 5 instances, with limited hardware. Will the CPUs be able to take load 
of 100 instances? Is it worth experimenting this? 

I am on 8.1.7.4 and the application is already built. I stand no chance of 
changing the code. That is why using individual schemas for individual users is 
not an option. Right now I am just asked if 100 instances can run on same server 
and I don’t have solid answer. 

Just on side note, canI ask, What is the maximum number of instances 
anyone has ever worked/heard being installedwith in same server? 

Thanks again.

Dilip.

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  100 instances woh . If you are in 9i look at 
  possibilities like contextor label security . or creating another schema 
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  hundred database instances on same server. Maybe you should think 
  creating one instance, and then hundred schemas in it. 
  Guang On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Dilip Patel wrote: 
   Hi All,  Need some suggestions/Input.  
   My application database is 8.1.7, NOARCHIVELOG, WIN200,  
  total size 4 GB, more of single user OLTP client-server application. 
Now the customer wants to give training on this application 
  to hundredtrainees  at a time. For this he wants to install 
  hundred database instances onsame  server machine, which 
  *each* will be accessed simultaneously from 100different  
  client workstations.   The reasons for installing all 
  instances on same machine are  - to avoid re-installing databases 
  on 100 workstations after each roundof  training.  
  - No user should see any other user's data.   Please 
  suggest if this approach is feasible or is it at all possible.Tested this 
  with upto 5 instances, and  it seems to work. The customer is 
  willing to upgrade to any hardwareneeded for  this 
  setup.   Thanks in advance for your time. 
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Re: More On 10G

2003-08-08 Thread Peter Barnett
Heard an Oracle rep last week say that 10G was mostly
hype.  If you want to watch what's for real at Oracle
it's Linux.

Only time will tell if he is right, but he has a
better inside track to the Oracle gossip that I do.


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How do I create a temp table with no logging?

2003-08-08 Thread Jake Johnson
Hello,
I am trying to make a temp table with no logging as select * from table.  
Does anyone have a good example?  THanks a ton!
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RE: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT

2003-08-08 Thread Rajesh . Rao


I know, with earlier version of Oracle, columns likely to have null values
were placed at the end of the table, to save on some minuscle bytes of
space. If the null columns fall between columns with data values, then one
byte is used for their storage. Else, they require no storage.  But no,
there is no bug related to the last column having a default value.

Raj




   
  
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David,

Nope.  Your programmer is wrong.

Tom Mercadante
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 Subject: RE: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT

 I understand that part.  What the programmer is saying that you can
 not add the last column to a table with a default value.  Does that
 sound reasonable?
 thanks, Raj.
 David.
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  Subject: RE: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT



  as soon as you add a column all depending code goes invalid, the
  dependency checking process doesn't discriminate about the
  default value.


  Raj
  


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  All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !





  -Original Message-
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  Subject: last column in a table is added with a DEFAULT





  Has anybody ever heard of this?  I have a developer saying this
  is an oracle
  bug.  It caused some packages to go invalid.





  The error seems to be related to a bug in oracle caused when the
  last
  column in a table is added with a default.


  David Ehresmann




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Re: Oracle Security Best Practices

2003-08-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael
if this is 9i, anyone with DBA privs can grant access...

grant select, update, delete, insert on table_owner.table_name to
grantee;

we have a hosting company that manages the staging and production
databases. I do not hard-code passwords into scripts when I pass them
to the hosting company. They do not give me the password to SYSTEM. But
I can and do code (at the beginning of every script):

prompt please enter the passwords and connect string as
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accept sysconn prompt system password and connect string: 
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in my scripts and then do the grants and whatever else I need as system


if you aren't on 9i... well option 1 below was documented (with a
script so you don't have to write the encrypted password down!) in
Kevin Loney's 7.3 version of the DBA Handbook. I don't know (latest
versions are at home) if he kept it in the later versions of the book
or not)



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   How do you (as DBA) create objects and give
  its permissions? With
  the owner's login?
  
 Sandro...
 you have at least two choices:
 
 1.- 
  a) select encrypted password from dba_users
 write it on your notebook.
  b) alter the user password to whatever you want.
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  d) perform the grant
  e) alter the password back to the original value
 using
 alter user xxx identified by values 'old_password'
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 the notebook
 
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  a) create or replace procedure
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tivoli/oracle monitoring

2003-08-08 Thread Joe Testa
is anyone using tivoli to do oracle monitoring, good/bad, etc.

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RAC interconnects

2003-08-08 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RAC interconnects





Hi all,


Is it possible to somehow tell Oracle to use all available interconnects (between nodes) for the GC traffic? We have 2 private interconnects but we see all the traffic only on one of them. The other is used only if the first one is not available.

If Oracle could use both, it would balance the load too ??


Is it possible?
Raj

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Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Tanel Poder
 As for the datafiles and indexfiles being distributed over different
physical disks, well I can not confirm you are wrong, in our site id DID
boost the performance, and specially if you locate in separate physical
drives your redologs and datafiles (both indexes or data). Of course it
depends on the server's work load and how many people are simultaneously
accesing data and indexes. I can understand what you say but if many
different users are accesing the same table via indexes and both the table's
data and the indexes are on the same physical drive  I think performance
should be worst than if they were separated, right or wrong? ...

Wrong, because in multi-user environment, disk reading heads will never be
physically be in same place where you left them. (Well, almost never,
depending on your IO queue length).

Are you comparing oranges with oranges here - if you got one disk in your
server and get performance boost by buying another disk in and putting some
files (doesn't matter which files) on new disk, then you are comparing 1
disk vs. 2 disks, and that doesn't have anything to do with the type of
segments in the files.

Tanel.


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RE: possible Bug in Oracle 9.2.0.2

2003-08-08 Thread Browett, Darren
Title: Message



I 
already have :)

  
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  Tell them ...
  
  Raj
   
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9.2.0.2
That fixed it, thank you.

I 
still haven't heard from oracle support yet.

  
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  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
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  9.2.0.2
  You it is a bug  
  alter session|system set "_unnest_subquery"=false 
  / 
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
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  While I am waiting for oracle support to respond to my tar 
  update (2nd callback) I am just wondering if 
  anybody has found this problem. 
  We have the following select query (from a peoplesoft 
  implementation) 
  SELECT a.emplid, a.effdt FROM 
  PS_JOB A WHERE A.EFFDT = (SELECT 
  MAX(A1.EFFDT) FROM PS_JOB A1 WHERE A.EMPLID = A1.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A1.EMPL_RCD AND A1.EFFDT = 
  SYSDATE) AND A.EFFSEQ = (SELECT 
  MAX(A2.EFFSEQ) FROM PS_JOB A2 WHERE A.EMPLID = 
  A2.EMPLID AND A.EMPL_RCD = A2.EMPL_RCD AND 
  A.EFFDT = A2.EFFDT) AND A.EMPL_STATUS = 'A' 
  and a.emplid='3442' 
  when we run the query we get one row back, but when we 
  replace the field names with count(*), the 
  resulting answer back is "2". We have tested 
  it in 8.0.5.1.1 and we get the correct results, 1 row, and a count of 1. 
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RE: RMAN Backup piece being placed in wrong directory

2003-08-08 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: Message



Doh! Thanks for pointing out the obvious to me. I'm sure that 
will work. I'll go crawl back in my cave now :ol

Thanks 
Tom!

-Scott 
Stefick

  
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  Ronald,
  
  It 
  looks like just the archivelog was not going into the correct directory, 
  right? But then you did *not* include a format clause for the 
  archivelog.
  
  Looking at the docs, it looks like you should change the 
  following:
  
  backup database 
  format'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup\rman_d%d_t%t_U%U.bak' plus 
  archivelog;
  to
  
  backup database 
  format'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup\rman_d%d_t%t_U%U.bak' plus archivelog 
  format
  'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup\arcs_d%d_t%t_U%U.bak'
  
  Good 
  Luck!
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: FW: RMAN Backup piece being placed in wrong 
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Robert? Dennis? Anyone?


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AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RMAN Backup piece being placed in wrong directory

OS: Win2K
DB: 8.1.7.4

All, 

Here is what I am running:
run{set archivelog destination to 
'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup';set controlfile autobackup format for 
device type disk to 'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup\cf_%F.bak';backup 
database format'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup\rman_d%d_t%t_U%U.bak' plus 
archivelog;}


Here is a the result after I run it: 
(The part I'm concerned about is in red. I would like that stuff to go to 'D:\backup\oracle\Hotbackup').

executing command: SET ARCHIVELOG DESTINATION
executing command: SET CONTROLFILE AUTOBACKUP 
FORMAT
Starting backup at 
07-AUG-03current log archivedusing channel ORA_DISK_1using 
channel ORA_DISK_2using channel ORA_DISK_3channel ORA_DISK_1: 
starting archive log backupsetchannel ORA_DISK_1: specifying archive 
log(s) in backup setinput archive log thread=1 sequence=4 recid=2 
stamp=500738572channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 
07-AUG-03channel ORA_DISK_2: starting archive log backupsetchannel 
ORA_DISK_2: specifying archive log(s) in backup setinput archive log 
thread=1 sequence=5 recid=1 stamp=500738568input archive log thread=1 
sequence=6 recid=3 stamp=500738573input archive log thread=1 sequence=7 
recid=4 stamp=500738574input archive log thread=1 sequence=8 recid=5 
stamp=500815654input archive log thread=1 sequence=9 recid=6 
stamp=500824391input archive log thread=1 sequence=10 recid=7 
stamp=501340112channel ORA_DISK_2: starting piece 1 at 
07-AUG-03channel ORA_DISK_3: starting archive log backupsetchannel 
ORA_DISK_3: specifying archive log(s) in backup setinput archive log 
thread=1 sequence=11 recid=8 stamp=501343673input archive log thread=1 
sequence=12 recid=9 stamp=501343804input archive log thread=1 
sequence=13 recid=10 stamp=501347437input archive log thread=1 
sequence=14 recid=11 stamp=501347562input archive log thread=1 
sequence=15 recid=12 stamp=501407160input archive log thread=1 
sequence=16 recid=13 stamp=501407288channel ORA_DISK_3: starting piece 1 
at 07-AUG-03channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 
07-AUG-03piece 
handle=C:\ORACLE\ORACLE\9.2.0\DATABASE\1AEU5O7O_1_1 
comment=NONEchannel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed 
time: 00:00:16channel ORA_DISK_3: finished piece 1 at 07-AUG-03piece handle=C:\ORACLE\ORACLE\9.2.0\DATABASE\1CEU5O7O_1_1 
comment=NONEchannel ORA_DISK_3: backup set complete, elapsed 
time: 00:00:16channel ORA_DISK_1: starting archive log 
backupsetchannel ORA_DISK_1: specifying archive log(s) in backup 
setinput archive log thread=1 sequence=17 recid=14 
stamp=501407709input archive log thread=1 sequence=18 recid=15 
stamp=501407832input archive log thread=1 sequence=19 recid=16 
stamp=501407991channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 
07-AUG-03channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 07-AUG-03piece handle=C:\ORACLE\ORACLE\9.2.0\DATABASE\1DEU5O89_1_1 
comment=NONEchannel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed 
time: 00:00:02channel ORA_DISK_2: finished piece 1 at 07-AUG-03piece handle=C:\ORACLE\ORACLE\9.2.0\DATABASE\1BEU5O7O_1_1 
comment=NONEchannel ORA_DISK_2: backup set complete, elapsed 
time: 00:00:20Finished backup at 07-AUG-03

Starting backup at 07-AUG-03using channel 
ORA_DISK_1using channel ORA_DISK_2using channel 
ORA_DISK_3channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile 
   

RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
The benefits of spreading the data over as many physical access paths ( ~ 
disks ) using multiple datafiles notwithstanding, there is always the case 
of too much. Keep in mind that at checkpoint time the DBWR need to visit 
the header of every ( non read-only ) datafile. That's unlikely to be an 
issue for a few dozen datafiles, but if you are getting into hundreds of 
them, keep that in mind. If you can get the striping done without multiple 
datafiles you get the best of both worlds.
I am just suffering that exact issue on a test system for an upgrade with 
an extremely poor IO subsystem where bottlenecks like this get magnified.

At 07:24 AM 8/7/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Gee, that question sounded a whole lot better when I wrote it yesterday 
than it did this morning when I saw it. :) Maybe I should be a little more 
vague.:)
The problem is there are a couple of things I am trying to accomplish. We 
have clients that use our application that have specific performance 
issues which I am working to improve. The other issue is to provide 
recommendation to development/tech staff on initial  setup  of 
database/tablespaces/datafiles etc.., along with hardware recommendations 
for our application.
So,  that being said, I'll try and ask better questions.

The environment is W2K, Oracle  8.1.7.2 or higher
All tablespaces are LMT
Most disk config's  are 1 (or 2)  Raid 1 along with a Raid 5 for basic 
systems.
Most operate application 24/7
Questions:

1) Is there any advantage to uniform datafile sizes?
2) Is there any advantage/disadvantage for say 4 1G datafiles vs 2 2G. 
(Other than time to recover from datafile loss)
It is probably safe to assume that the datafiles  exist on a RAID 5. (for 
now)
3) Why the recommendation to take a Win2k datafile to just over 2G?

For future apps I am pushing for optimal recommendations that go  for more 
raid 1 sets or raid 10 over the Raid 5. This should allow for more 
flexibility for spreading out the i/o.
Wolfgang Breitling
Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA
Centrex Consulting Corporation
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Re: Corrupt Inactive RedoLog Goup.

2003-08-08 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Sorry, I skipped mentioning that, but we did try it, for the members.
Got an ORA-01514: error in log specification. No such log.
ORA-01517: log member: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'

When we used the group number, we got an:






 ORA-00261: log 3 of thread 1 is being archived or modified 
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'





Regards
Raj



   
 
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Hi!

I think the command was alter database clear unarchived logfile 'xxx';

IIRC,
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 Members,

 Production 8.1.6.3 database on Windows NT 4.0.

 We noticed an entry in the alert log, citing that a log group could not
be
 archived since the 25th of July.. We have 3 log groups with 2 members
each.
 I notice that the 3rd redolog group has a status of Inactive with
 Archived=No. This group has a sequence# of 745, while the other two have
 advanced to 1073 and 1074 now.  We have had too many log switches since
 then, and Oracle has chosen to ignore using this corrupt redo log group.
 The database gets bounced daily, and opens without a problem, since this
 group is not needed for instance recovery. I tried manual archiving.

 SQLWKS alter system archive log group 3;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'F:
 \ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
  2 ;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'G:
 \ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
  2
  3 ;
 ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
 ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'

 Similarly, it does not allow me to drop this member, saying it has not
been
 archived. Can I fake a recovery using cancel. and then open resetlogs? Or
 if I put the database in noarchivelog mode, will Oracle let me drop this
 corrupt redolog group?

 Thanks
 Raj


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Re: Implementing different document types with different attributes

2003-08-08 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: Implementing different document types with different attributes



Hi!

FlexFields are used in Oracle E-Business Suite, 
they aren't nothing else than varchar2 fields where you can configure Apps to 
write your custom data (either one logical field by database column, or several 
fields separated by colon).

For your case, if you add 70 varchar2 or number 
columns to your table, these columns which have null values will take only 1 
byte (for column length which will be 0).
Also,if you have let say 20 last columns as 
NULL for particular row, then even this 1 byte for last 20 null columns is 
omitted (column count for row is decreased instead).But as soon as you got 
some non-null value in your last colum of row, then allcolumns have to be 
stored in row.

You could add a column doctype (which you probably 
already have), use few attribute columns and use decode or some application side 
construct to translate appropriate columns to appropriate attribute values for 
current doctype.

Let say I got doc types: doc mp3 zip

For all types ATTR1 stores document size in bytes, 
but ATTR2 is word count for doc, duration in seconds for mp3 and uncompressed 
size for zip:

And table contains:

ID | DOCTYPE | ATTR1| ATTR2 
|
1 | doc 
|154332|8850 |
2 | mp3 | 
128000| 16 |
3 | zip 
|32768| 55980 |


And query or application takes doctype into 
account:

selectattr1 as bytes, decode(lower(doctype), 

 'doc', 'Word Count:', 

 'mp3', 'Minutes:', 
 'zip', 'Uncompressed size:', 

 'Unspecified') as 
custom,
 ATTR2
from my_table;

Also, you can combine boolean values to number or 
varchar and use bitand function or substr function depending on data 
type.
Also, function based indexes come handy 
whenyour wantto index these columns...

Tanel.

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  Tim 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:34 
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  Subject: Implementing different document 
  types with different attributes
  
  Hello 
  I've an installation/implementation 
  question! We've to analyse 50 document 
  types, in total those 50 has 70 different attributes. We don't want to put all those document types into one 
  table, because more than the half (35) of the attributes are not always used 
  for each document type. This will have to much disk space for each record, if 
  most of the fields are just blank.
  Has anyone suggestions how to build our 
  table-structure? I've heart something about 
  FlexFields, what are they? Takes every 
  field diskspace, even if it's blank (null)? 
  Thanks in advance for the response! 
  Tim 


Re: Oracle and Windows 2000 SP4 - any experiences to share

2003-08-08 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

Just stop and disable the service Automatic Updates under Control Panel -
Adiministrative Tools - Services.
Also, a service called Background Intelligent Transfer Service appeared,
which is able to transfer files in *background* i.e. without you knowing
about it, for automatic update and some mystic MSN Explorer. WTF :|
Stop and disable that one as well.

Tanel.

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 I'm sure many of us would love to know how to disable that thing.

 I know I would.

 Jared





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 Hi!

 Btw, after installing SP4, a service Automatic Updates has appeared and
 is
 active by default (without even asking from me!).
 I just figured it out  disabled it instantly. I have W2k professional.
 Could you verify, whether you also do have this service installed 
 automatic or is it just me?

 Tanel.

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   FWIW, I installed it on my P4 at work and it's
   caused no problems yet.  8.1.7.4 as well.
   But in my Athlon XP at home, it's made the system
   so unstable I had to upgrade all sorts of drivers!
   There you go, 6 of 1...
 
  Hi!
 
  I've used SP4 on Athlon XP for a week now (with Oracle 9.2.0.1). So far
 have
  seen no problems..
 
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RE: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Dave Phillips
Gee, that question sounded a whole lot better when I wrote it yesterday than it did 
this morning when I saw it. :) Maybe I should be a little more vague.:)
The problem is there are a couple of things I am trying to accomplish. We have clients 
that use our application that have specific performance issues which I am working to 
improve. The other issue is to provide recommendation to development/tech staff on 
initial  setup  of database/tablespaces/datafiles etc.., along with hardware 
recommendations for our application.
So,  that being said, I'll try and ask better questions.

The environment is W2K, Oracle  8.1.7.2 or higher 
All tablespaces are LMT
Most disk config's  are 1 (or 2)  Raid 1 along with a Raid 5 for basic systems.
Most operate application 24/7 
Questions:

1) Is there any advantage to uniform datafile sizes?
2) Is there any advantage/disadvantage for say 4 1G datafiles vs 2 2G. (Other than 
time to recover from datafile loss) 
It is probably safe to assume that the datafiles  exist on a RAID 5. (for now) 
3) Why the recommendation to take a Win2k datafile to just over 2G?

For future apps I am pushing for optimal recommendations that go  for more raid 1 sets 
or raid 10 over the Raid 5. This should allow for more flexibility for spreading out 
the i/o. 

Thanks for your patience and all the help. 
David Phillips
Support DBA
BAARF Member #30


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Win2K.  If you decide to increase the filesize, do it to more than 2G
(doesn't have to be by much).  Of course, you didn't mention autoextend so
this may not be an issue.

Also, just how many physical disks do you have?  Logical disks are not the
issue.  If you're going to get any increased performance you should be
putting the second datafile on a second physical disk.  Any how come you're
not using some sort of RAID device (or don't you have your logical drives
striped across your physical drives)?

There is no easy answer to your question without an understanding of the
reality of your disk layout.



   

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 In my experience, spreading datafiles across volumes
(specially if you are careful not to locate the a table's datafiles and its
indexes datafiles in the same drive) greatly increases performance.

 As for the file size, I can not say because I have not tested
it, but I think it should have no real impact compared to splitting it.
Reorganizing the database regularly is a better way to optimize
performance.

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Oracle 8.1.7.4
Win2k

What is the consensus on datafile sizing and the impact/overhead

Re: Multiple Datafiles and performance?

2003-08-08 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
At 09:59 AM 8/7/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hi!

 The benefits of spreading the data over as many physical access paths ( ~
 disks ) using multiple datafiles notwithstanding, there is always the case
 of too much. Keep in mind that at checkpoint time the DBWR need to visit
 the header of every ( non read-only ) datafile. That's unlikely to be an
The number of files had some impact in older Oracle versions (7.x).

Starting from 8.0 I believe, this issue is somewhat relieved, as you
probably know. Not all file headers are updated together and the update
doesn't have to go to disk immediately (this goes for checkpoints caused by
log switches).
Actually I didn't or else I wouldn't have made the point. I guess that is 
how myths start and get perpetuated: by no keeping up with changes.


Also, in older versions db_files parameter affected DBWR batch size and some
buffer cache structures as well, IIRC.
The biggest number of files I've had in a production database is about 1150,
960MB each. On WindowsNT4... =8´o
Wolfgang Breitling
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RE: tables and views

2003-08-08 Thread Mladen Gogala
Title: Message



Join 
TAB$ and COL$ directly (on OBJ#) and your problem is gone. You'll get only 
columns that
belong 
to tables. You should also set _disable_suboptimal_app_design to 
TRUE


--Mladen GogalaOracle DBA 

  
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  views
  How to diiferentiate views and tables in 
  all_tables and all_tab_columns . which column and what criteria can return 
  only tables ??
  
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RE: Downloading patchests from Metalink

2003-08-08 Thread Jesse, Rich
Over 600KBytes/s from:

http://oracle-updates-west.conxion.com:8000/ARUConnect/dGREMDJJdVRxZGtxQjdNT
Ud1UHFxUTo0MDE5OTI4OnAyNzYxMzMyXzkyMDNfSFA2NC56aXA6UVRJREJBOjE2MS40OS4yMS40M
joxMDYwMDk4OTczOk5PX1BBU1M@/p2761332_9203_HP64.zip

Get yerself a new pipe.  :)

Rich

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Has anybody been able to download a patch from Metalink? I'm getting an
error saying that
The  opration timed out when attempting to contact
oracle-updates-west.conxion.com.
Did oracle subcontract their downloading facilities to Iraq or Afganistan?
This host has been
refusing any contact with me for two days now.  
 
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RE: It's an Oracle Fun Friday!

2003-08-08 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Interesting web site that bigip...  Picture of Larry with the annotation --
Coming Soon.  Does this mean that Larry truly does not exist yet???

Thank You

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Just looking at netcraft.com to see what Oracle's
running these days, when I
noticed their netblock is owned by Oracle
Datenbanksysteme GmbH.  German
Oracle

First move before the SAP AG hostile takeover bid?

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: Record breaking query

2003-08-08 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Record breaking query





Thanks Wolfgang,


our retention time is 21600 seconds ... and this one bailed out in half the time ... 


Oh well ... we need to fix few more things ..


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I know what the message says. Do you believe everything you see printed? Or 
expressing is differently: how many error/diagnostics messages have you 
seen that are more misleading than helpful.


At 01:24 PM 8/8/2003 -0800, you wrote:


but message says it is in seconds ... anf yes it is 92 ...

Thanks
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Is that an Oracle 9 system and the time is in microseconds rather than
seconds?

At 10:39 AM 8/8/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 Yeah, but think of the uptime! One helluva MTBF on that server...
 
 Rich
 
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 TICK : Fri Aug 8 09:06:03 2003
 SEARCH in kdisti: tsn = 5, objd = 83525, rdba = 33588489
 ORA-01555 caused by SQL statement below (Query Duration=1060347963 sec, 
 SCN:
 0x0011.05e003c2):
 TICK : Fri Aug 8 09:06:03 2003
 SELECT VOBJID, VNAME, VTEXT, VLEN, VOWNER, VOWNERID, VAUDIT, VCOMMENT,
 VCNAME, PROPERTY, DEFER, FLAGS, OIDLEN, OIDCLAUSE, TYPEOWNER,
 TYPENAME, UNDERLEN, 
 UNDERCLAUSE FROM SYS.EXU8VEW WHERE VOWNERID
 != :SYS_B_0 ORDER BY VLEVEL, VOWNER, VOBJID
 according to this error message this query has been running for close to 33
 years. appears to be a export running for 33 years.
 I am clusless
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RE: IMP-00020: long column too large for column buffer size (22)

2003-08-08 Thread Prasada . Gunda

Thanks for all those who responded my mail.

When there was buffer parameter or record length parameter, It did not
work.

Instead of importing the full dmp file, If I try to import one table, it is
working okay.

I still have to try couple of alternatives and let the List Group know the
outcome.

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What about that buffer setting in imp...??

DOn't you have to set that higher than default when importing data that has
binary fields?

The exp file might be okay.

THis is the BUFFER input parameter to imp.

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Hi All,

One of our developer ftp'ed  the export (dmp) file from UNIX to NT in ASCII
mode. He didn't know that it supposed to be done in BINARY mode.  Now, he
ftp'ed the dmp file back to UNIX  in ASCII mode and tried doing the import.
Looks like dmp file has been corrupted and Import is giving the following
error.

IMP-00020: long column too large for column buffer size (22)
IMP-00028: partial import of previous table rolled back: 16380 rows rolled
back/

Is there any way to fix the dmp file. Any ideas?  I searched the metalink
and looks like there is no way to correct it.

It is on HP-UX and oracle 8.1.7.4

I appreciate your help.

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RE: SharePlex

2003-08-08 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: SharePlex



it is _supposed_ to work that way ... close to production. But last time 
we looked at it, there were too many limitations relates to IOT, VARRAYS etc and 
it wasn't ready for our platform and version .

but it is supposed to be good ... I have heard similar things about 
dataguard as well, but that is only if you are on 9i.

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  Hello, 
  Quest is trying to sell us a product named 
  SharePlex. It sounds very attractive, but then sales people are supposed 
  to be good at that. We are a mid sized company, about 2.2 billion per 
  year, running Financials 11.5.7. We are interested in this for HA and 
  for reporting instance use. 
  rant We 
  use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this product tells me that we 
  can't tune the SQL it emits. It makes pretty poor choices, which is not 
  surprising for a gooey, sticky tool designed for end users. It is sort 
  of pretty and if you can drool you too can generate cross products. 
  Anyway , I'd like to get them off the production box.
  rant/ 
  Does SharePlex allow you to stay close to the 
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  Do you love it? Hate it? Anything you'd like to say about this 
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  Thanks in advance  
  
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RE: Record breaking query

2003-08-08 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Record breaking query





12GB only 


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WOW! How many googolbytes do you have devoted to your Undo Tablespaces?


 Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 
 TICK : Fri Aug 8 09:06:03 2003
 SEARCH in kdisti: tsn = 5, objd = 83525, rdba = 33588489
 ORA-01555 caused by SQL statement below (Query Duration=1060347963 sec, SCN: 0x0011.05e003c2):
 TICK : Fri Aug 8 09:06:03 2003
 SELECT VOBJID, VNAME, VTEXT, VLEN, VOWNER, VOWNERID, VAUDIT, VCOMMENT, VCNAME, PROPERTY, DEFER, FLAGS, OIDLEN, OIDCLAUSE, TYPEOWNER, TYPENAME, UNDERLEN, UNDERCLAUSE FROM SYS.EXU8VEW WHERE VOWNERID != :SYS_B_0 ORDER BY VLEVEL, VOWNER, VOBJID

 
 according to this error message this query has been running for close to 33 years. appears to be a export running for 33 years.

 
 I am clusless
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Re: Oracle and Windows 2000 SP4 - any experiences to share

2003-08-08 Thread Prem Khanna J
after installing SP4,even MS-Office troubled me a lot.

.came back to SP3 again.


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Implementing different document types with different attributes

2003-08-08 Thread Vernaillen Tim
Title: Implementing different document types with different attributes






Hello


I've an installation/implementation question!

We've to analyse 50 document types, in total those 50 has 70 different attributes.

We don't want to put all those document types into one table, because more than the half (35) of the attributes are not always used for each document type. This will have to much disk space for each record, if most of the fields are just blank.

Has anyone suggestions how to build our table-structure?

I've heart something about FlexFields, what are they?

Takes every field diskspace, even if it's blank (null)?


Thanks in advance for the response!


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RE: RE: V$SESSSTAT stat 3 vs V$OPEN_CURSOR

2003-08-08 Thread Jesse, Rich
Yes, V$OPEN_CURSOR is instance-wide, but each row in the view sure looks
like it can be attributed to a specific session via SADDR/ID/USERNAME.  And
the count of those rows for each session doesn't match the corresponding
row/attribute in V$SESSSTAT.

Erm, I'll leave off the product name here since this is the only DB problem
I've seen with it, but I will say that it's a bug tracking package.

Thanks,
Rich

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 v$open_cursors is all open cursors in the instance
 
 v$sesstat is just open cursors in the session. 
 
 what 3rd party product is that? is it cross platform? Ill 
 make sure not to buy it. really bad code to get too many open 
 cursors. 
  
  From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: RE: V$SESSSTAT stat 3 vs V$OPEN_CURSOR
  
  No takers on this from the perf tuning gurus?  Please don't 
 make me open a
  TAR.  Think of the children...
  
  Rich
  
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   Subject: V$SESSSTAT stat 3 vs V$OPEN_CURSOR
   
   
   Hey all,
   
   We recently had a problem with a 3rd-party app getting 
   ORA-1000 max open
   cursors exceeded on their 8.1.7.4 DB.  Since OPEN_CURSORS is 
   set to 500 in
   the init.ora -- should be more than generous for a tiny app 
   on a tiny DB --
   we started looking into how many cursors the app actually has 
   open at any
   given time.
   
   While investigating this, I see that the number of rows in 
   V$OPEN_CURSORS
   isn't consistent with the value of stat 3 (opened cursors 
   current) of
   V$SESSSTAT.  Of the two processes I looked at, each had a 
   V$SESSSTAT value
   of 3 for stat 3, while the first had a single entry in 
   V$OPEN_CURSOR and
   the second had four.
   
   Should these values match?  I looked on Metalink but was 
   unable to find any
   reference to the relationship between these, other than a 
   forum article
   where the OraSupport person was extraordinarily unhelpful.
   
   TIA,
   Rich
   
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RE: URGENT: Trying to duplicate database from cold backup - auxi

2003-08-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Paula - How is your duplication going? Well I hope. Are you basically trying
to perform a disaster recovery? That was basically what I was requested to
do. The statement was imagine the computer room was taken out by
terrorists, and all you have are the tapes from the off-site storage. You
are provided another server, now recover the database. Is this anything
like what you are trying to do? As I recall, DUPLICATE wouldn't work because
it just copies the production database, not using the backup tape. With help
from a local consultant I accomplished that.



Dennis Williams 
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Dear Robert, 

Wow, I get the best!!!  Anyway, in this case I am trying to clone/duplicate
an existing database to a new database.  Therefore, I don't have an existing
control file and when I have done this with same database name from Host A
to Host B as part of the duplication command it basically recreates the
control file.  I have gotten that type of clone to work.

I have also gotten clones to work where I was on host A and wanted to clone
database A to database B by copying from a shutdown database, editing the
backup controlfile to trace file.  

This case is different from either one above.  In this case I am trying to
use RMAN and one Host A take a backup of database A and restore it as
database B all from the backup itself.  This operation I have not been able
to do so I wait for off-hours to do the second option listed above.  

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auxi 


Paula, 

Try to mount the auxillary database manually, and see what error you get. 
That might help point you in the right direction in solving the problem. 
probably 70% of the time it's an issue with the configuration of the aux 
database (e.g. parameter set wrong, etc...). Manual startup will show you if

that is the case most of the time. 

RF 

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Hmmm. 

Got Robert's book on 9i 
This database and clone is in 8.1.7 hmmm. 

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Paula - I was never able to get this working, but then I didn't have 
Robert 
Freeman's book at that time. Do you have his book as a resource? 



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I did. 

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you need to :   startup nomount pfile=xxx.ora 

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Guys, 
  
When trying to duplicate database with this script 
  
  
I have my auxiliary setup as new database, target setup as old database 
and 
am using duplicate database command along with logfile command to create 
new 
logfiles.  
  
  
  
Get error: 
  
RMAN-06136: ORACLE error from auxiliary database: ORA-01507: database 
not 
mounte 

d 

  

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Corrupt Inactive RedoLog Goup.

2003-08-08 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Members,

Production 8.1.6.3 database on Windows NT 4.0.

We noticed an entry in the alert log, citing that a log group could not be
archived since the 25th of July.. We have 3 log groups with 2 members each.
I notice that the 3rd redolog group has a status of Inactive with
Archived=No. This group has a sequence# of 745, while the other two have
advanced to 1073 and 1074 now.  We have had too many log switches since
then, and Oracle has chosen to ignore using this corrupt redo log group.
The database gets bounced daily, and opens without a problem, since this
group is not needed for instance recovery. I tried manual archiving.

SQLWKS alter system archive log group 3;
ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'F:
\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 2 ;
ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
SQLWKS alter system archive log logfile 'G:
\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
 2
 3 ;
ORA-16038: log 3 sequence# 745 cannot be archived
ORA-00354: corrupt redo log block header
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'F:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'
ORA-00312: online log 3 thread 1: 'G:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TCP1\LOG3TCP1.ORA'

Similarly, it does not allow me to drop this member, saying it has not been
archived. Can I fake a recovery using cancel. and then open resetlogs? Or
if I put the database in noarchivelog mode, will Oracle let me drop this
corrupt redolog group?

Thanks
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