RE: Any way to script or document jobs defined to the NT/MS2000 T

2002-12-05 Thread Bishop Lewis
Ron,

The only way I have found is to manually copy (through the GUI) the jobs to
another location.
 
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We have started using the NT/MS2000 Task Scheduler instead of the 'AT'
command to schedule jobs.
I am concerned that if we lose the server we would lose the schedule and
have to figure out how and
When all the batch jobs were scheduled.

Does anyone know a way to script or otherwise document jobs defined to the
Task Scheduler?

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RE: Are There any way of calling NT OS Commands like print, del e

2002-12-05 Thread Bishop Lewis









Shiva,



Attached is an email from Ankur Shah from another posting - have not tried it
myself but this may help.





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Hi Gurus

I am looking for easy of calling OS commands like
print, del, etc. from PL/SQL on a NT4 system running Oracle 8.1.7. I tried the
Java approach from oracle web site, it works for few commands and not all. 

Any insight, direction and help to achieve is very
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Thanks in advance



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Many tasks have been automated using shell scripting languages. Frequently, 
these shell scripts need to be called from an Oracle stored procedure, but no 
direct interface to call shell scripts is provided. Oracle does, however, 
provide a method for calling C and Java programs via external procedures. Since 
many shell programmers have never programmed in C or Java, converting shell 
scripts or writing new tasks in either of these languages is difficult and time 
consuming. 


This solution provides a C routine that will make OS calls, and these calls can 
be commands, shell scripts, or other application programs. Using this method, 
no C programming experience is required, but does allow existing and new tasks 
to be written as shell scripts.


This article does not provide information to setup the database or 
environment for external procedures. 

Refer to  How to Configure a UNIX Oracle Server to Use External Procedures  for 
information on setting up the Oracle Server machine.

 The external procedure is written in C and compiled with the Oracle 
makefile, and hence, an Oracle supported compiler for the specific UNIX 
platform is required. See Certified 
Compilers

From the Oracle server machine:


1. Create a file for the external procedure code:


shell.c
===

#include stdio.h

#include stdlib.h

#include string.h

void sh(char *);

void sh( char  *cmd )

{
   int num;
   num = system(cmd);
}


2. Compile and link the C code into a shared library:

make -f $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/demo/demo_rdbms.mk extproc_nocallback \

SHARED_LIBNAME=shell.so OBJS=shell.o

Log into SQL*Plus to perform the remaining steps.

3. Define the shared library in Oracle:

CREATE LIBRARY shell_lib IS 'full path to shared lib/shell.so'; /

4. Create the PL/SQL wrapper procedure:

CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE shell (cmd IN CHAR)

AS EXTERNAL

   NAME sh

   LIBRARY shell_lib

   LANGUAGE C

PARAMETERS (

cmd STRING);

/

5. Call a shell script:

SQL exec shell('sh myscript.sh');

PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.

===

HTHU

Ankur Shah
Oracle DBA
DHR-GA

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But i want to call the shell script or the file from a stored procedure.


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there are cron jobs in unix, just like schedulers e.g. dbms_jobs in oracle. hope this 
would solve your problem.




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RE: Win2k Perl accessing Oracle Parameters?

2002-10-29 Thread Bishop Lewis
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RE: Download Oracle 7.3.4

2002-10-28 Thread Bishop Lewis
Ahh, one of the hardcore diehards...
 
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 Anyone HERE actually get SCO 7.3.4 working on Linux? If so, anyone got a
 copy - I would love to take a pop at it (never had the opportunity).

Yeah, I had SCO Oracle 7.x ( forget what the x was ) running on Linux about
7 years ago.  Yeah, I was on the bleeding edge. :)

There were compatibility libraries available for running SCO software on 
Linux.  Worked great!

Don't ask for details.  That was 7 years ago.  I don't even remember how
old I was then.

Jared


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 Oooo! I forgot about the SCO.
 I never tried it but I had read about it.

 Those were the days eh?

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 Although, you should *apparently* be able to load the 7.3.4 version of SCO
 on Linux - or maybe that's just an urban myth!

 Yes, i remember installing the first version of 8 on Linux (hey I had some
 time on my hands) and it was a bit of a nightmare - back to the days when
 Oracle had 2 hits on metalink for Linux! ;-)

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 The first version of Oracle that ran on Linux was the early adoptor
 pre-release of 8.0.5 in 1998

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 Hi list,

   I need to do some testing in an Oracle 7.3.4 for linux (redhat),
 where can I download this Oracle version from?

 it doesn't appear to be online in OTN.


 thanks for your help.
 Greetings
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RE: Download Oracle 7.3.4

2002-10-25 Thread Bishop Lewis
Those were the days eh?

Not really! ;-) It was a preverbial pain in the butt! ;-)

Anyone HERE actually get SCO 7.3.4 working on Linux? If so, anyone got a
copy - I would love to take a pop at it (never had the opportunity).
 
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Oooo! I forgot about the SCO.
I never tried it but I had read about it.

Those were the days eh?

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Although, you should *apparently* be able to load the 7.3.4 version of SCO
on Linux - or maybe that's just an urban myth!

Yes, i remember installing the first version of 8 on Linux (hey I had some
time on my hands) and it was a bit of a nightmare - back to the days when
Oracle had 2 hits on metalink for Linux! ;-)
 
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The first version of Oracle that ran on Linux was the early adoptor
pre-release of 8.0.5 in 1998

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Hi list,
 
  I need to do some testing in an Oracle 7.3.4 for linux (redhat), 
where can I download this Oracle version from?

it doesn't appear to be online in OTN.


thanks for your help.
Greetings
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RE: Download Oracle 7.3.4

2002-10-24 Thread Bishop Lewis
Although, you should *apparently* be able to load the 7.3.4 version of SCO
on Linux - or maybe that's just an urban myth!

Yes, i remember installing the first version of 8 on Linux (hey I had some
time on my hands) and it was a bit of a nightmare - back to the days when
Oracle had 2 hits on metalink for Linux! ;-)
 
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The first version of Oracle that ran on Linux was the early adoptor
pre-release of 8.0.5 in 1998

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Hi list,
 
  I need to do some testing in an Oracle 7.3.4 for linux (redhat), 
where can I download this Oracle version from?

it doesn't appear to be online in OTN.


thanks for your help.
Greetings
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RE: Problem installing Oracle 8.1.7 on Windows 2000

2002-10-16 Thread Bishop Lewis

I know you're getting loads of small tips and hints rather than solutions
but here's another - I've only seen jrew go to 100% cpu when there was
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server session can give those kinds of problems on 2000.

HTH,

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Hi,
I am installing Oracle 8.1.7 on a MS Windows 2000 SP 3 system. When I
get to
the Net8 Configuration assistant, process jrew.exe goes to 100% of the
CPU.
I have let it run for over 15 minutes before stopping it from the Oracle
installer. The process stops using the CPU but the Oracle installer
hangs. I
have to cancel the installer. If I try to create a database, I get a TNS
adapter error. I have installed 8.1.7 on Windows NT without a problem. I
have opened a TAR. Anyone experience this problem?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Larry Noble
DBA
Medrad Inc
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RE: Kind of urgent database not autostarting after upgrade

2002-10-16 Thread Bishop Lewis

Download the kill utility from www.sysinternals.com - that'll let you kill
almost anything. I agree with previous posts in that you should try to kill
off the services/shutdown the db, and remove them using ORADIM. If this
doesn't remove the services then remove them using INSTSRV -REMOVE [1] from
the resource kit (that will get rid of them), then recreate using ORADIM.

Make sure you use the correct ORADIM binaries (right version) for the
removal and recreation of the services.

[1] Be aware though that once the services are gone, if you can't recreate
them then you could be facing a more serious error than you currently have.
 
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 I'm not sure about the upgrade from WinNT to Win2K, but the 
 easiest remedy for the DB not auto-starting is to delete and 
 re-create the service.
 
 You can use ORADIM, and then while re-creating the service, 
 you can use option of autostart.
 
 Regards
 Naveen
 

Hi 

Yes, that's part of the problem/original bug where oradim could not
recreate the service after deleting it. You need to reboot. Here is the
bug 1266248


Problem is with the call that is made to ORADIM.EXE by the service when
the  registry entry ora_sid_autostart=true.  Oradim hangs, the service
is shown to  be in status 'starting' and the service oracleservicesid
cannot be stopped.

ORACLE.EXE must be killed from Task Manager, and ORADIM.EXE cannot be
killed.Setting reg entry ora_sid_autostart=false, and rebooting,
resolves the issue,  leaving us, of course, without an aotostart option.


 It is worth noting that dispite the status of the service, the database
can be  started and stopped manually from Server Manager.  The error is
only on the  service attempting to autostart the database. We removed
and rebuilt oracleservicesid using Oradim, and this fixed the  problem
temporarily. 

We were able to use the service to start/stop, until a  reboot, after
which the same problem occurs. 


I was just off the phone with Oracle, and was advised to start another
tar...

Thanks
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RE: Double Take and Oracle

2002-10-15 Thread Bishop Lewis

I'm always dubious of these types of products (especially when there are no
reference sites available) and would opt for a batched up standby database
solution (syncing every 5/10/15 minutes or so) myself. I'm not saying
Double-Take is not good - I've got no experience of it and am sorry it's not
any help but you have an option should Double-Take not work correctly.

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Pls advise... 
We are trying to get Double Take to work on our site. Does anyone actually
have this product working??? 
Salesperson claims Double Take is certified by Oracle - does anyone know?
Where could I find out, other than the company itself?
For those of you who don't know this product pls give your opinion. Double
Take is a software that copies your database files and parameter files etc
across to a disaster recovery machine, bit for bit. At failure of the
production the recovery becomes the production system and starts up the
database. Basicly the datafiles are still open??
We get the following error when we start up the database on the recovery
system in tests: 
ORA-01172: recovery of thread 1 stuck at bloack 176624 of file 2. 
I would just like to add that when this happens we resync the databases and
try again to test and guess what - it is the turn of file 3 to give the
above error, and so back and forth we go.
To say the very least I am frustrated beyond comprihension. To make this
worse there is no one else in South Africa that uses this software with
Oracle, apparently in France. Convienant - I'd say. So I have no one to turn
to about this. (Apparently it works well with MSSQL). Anyone any ideas?
The Enviroment is Windows 2K SP3. 
Oracle 817 
Regards 
Denham Eva 
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UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to
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RE: Oracle9i upgrade exam - Recommended books/material? (Borderin

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RE: RE: Double Take and Oracle

2002-10-15 Thread Bishop Lewis

Eva - just checking - from their docs have you verified that the
transactional applications option is selected on the optimisations screen?
This seems the most likely omission - and are you also sure that you are
including all necessary files in the selected copy?

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Thanks for the input so far. Double-Take works real time so the database is
never down. 
I also followed their setup direction to the letter. Problem on our site is
that this product is being used for SQL Server and Exchange (Appears to work
fine there, but Oracle is a beast of another color compared to these Access
on Steroids databases), management are insisting for the sake of conformity
that this must work. At ever attempted startup another file gives an error,
most frustrating of all is that there is almost no consistency to the
errors.
Denham Eva 
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Lewis, 
    I can understand where Eva is coming from.  I had a demo of a similar 
product some time ago.  Their BIG selling point is that you have a
production 
server and a backup that is close in time with your production server at
half 
(or less) the cost of a hot standby.  Their reasoning is that you don't have

Oracle running on the standby and consequently don't have to pay Oracle a 
license fee for the second server since only one server is running at any
point 
in time.  Logically their point is well taken.  Regrettably and
understandably 
that is NOT Oracle's point of view. 
Dick Goulet 

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RE: Oracle9i upgrade exam - Recommended books/material? (Borderin

2002-10-14 Thread Bishop Lewis
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RE: ORA-472 DBWR terminated

2002-10-09 Thread Bishop Lewis

Not seen this before but trying creating a new alert log file using touch if
unix or a simple output (something like type nonexistantfile  alrtSID.log)
if using dos. See if the same problem occurs. At least then you can narrow
it down to a definite problem recreating the alert log file which you can
look into further and you will have a workaround.

If you've already done this what was the outcome?

BTW - you do not need to shutdown the database to be able to rename the
alert log file successfully - Oracle *should* create the file if it needs to
output messages and cannot find an existing file.

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Hi All,


We have a database running 7.3.4.5 and implemented a procedure that renames
the alert logs every day.
When the databases are down we rename the alert logs with a date extension.
Now we have three databases of which two will simply create a new alert log
and startup (including the test instance on which we tried it). The third
one will not start up and give above error.


All databases are shutdown the same way.


Has anybody seen this behaviour before and found a reason/solution for it?


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RE: ORA-472 DBWR terminated

2002-10-09 Thread Bishop Lewis

Apart from ensuring that the unix file permissions are fine have you
considered that the alert log file may be being created but in a different
location? Have a look and do a search. I seem to recall seeing an
unexplainable event like this on Windows before

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creating a file solved the problem(actually renamed the alertlog back to
original name) and it wasn't such a big deal. I am just wondering why two
databases with similar setup and exact same versions on the same machine do
not have the same problems.
Creating a workaround for this database is not my first choice as this is a
script that runs of a remote server and is standard  for all UNIX databases.
But if all else fails


Thx



Jack

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Not seen this before but trying creating a new alert log file using touch if
unix or a simple output (something like type nonexistantfile  alrtSID.log)
if using dos. See if the same problem occurs. At least then you can narrow
it down to a definite problem recreating the alert log file which you can
look into further and you will have a workaround.

If you've already done this what was the outcome?

BTW - you do not need to shutdown the database to be able to rename the
alert log file successfully - Oracle *should* create the file if it needs to
output messages and cannot find an existing file.

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Hi All,


We have a database running 7.3.4.5 and implemented a procedure that renames
the alert logs every day.
When the databases are down we rename the alert logs with a date extension.
Now we have three databases of which two will simply create a new alert log
and startup (including the test instance on which we tried it). The third
one will not start up and give above error.


All databases are shutdown the same way.


Has anybody seen this behaviour before and found a reason/solution for it?


Jacob A. van Zanen
Oracle DBA


Quant Systems Europe BV
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1948NG Beverwijk
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RE: Remember me? Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certifi

2002-10-08 Thread Bishop Lewis
Title: RE: Remember me? Oracle DBA veteran considering getting certifi









I expect that there are plenty of copies
still in circulation but to my knowledge coriolis is
no more shame, really, although the exam cram books tended to have
quite a few errors they were an excellent portable aid to certification.





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FYI,


I think
Coriolis no longer exists. 

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Paula,

Your experience sounds very similar
to mine which I documented on 
http://www.hcresources.co.uk/ocp.htm
http://www.hcresources.co.uk/ocp.htm

. I used the Exam Cram series and
was very happy with them. 
I am booked for the 8i upgrade next
week but despite using 8i for however 
long it has been available I cannot
believe how much there is to learn. 
I can see myself putting off the
exam once again 
 
John 

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Sorry I
didn't respond sooner - been up to my neck recovering from a bad 
controller. Anyway -
8i. If Mike Ault wrote a cram book for 9i upgrade I 
would get that one too. Please
don't tell me that 8i ceritfication is 
retired. 

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Which
version you are talking about? 8i or 9i upgrade certification 

Regards 
Rafiq 





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Well, 

Given the
IT market I felt that it was worth getting certified even though I


haven't
had any problems and been working with Oracle as DBA for over 8 
years. However, I decided
that I didn't want to spend a lot of money or 
time to do it. I have 2 small
children, work, - yadayadayada(sp?). I got 
the self-test for the first test,
studied using that and read Mike Ault's 
Exam cram book from front to back
(excellent resource, concise, 
straightforward, good examples -
just a couple of errors in whole book). 
Total test time was about 30
hours. Took the exam this morning in 60 
minutes (120 alloted), got 49 out
of 57 questions correct and passed. I 
really want to thank Mike Ault for
the excellent concise Cram book and 
intend to continue on this same
path for the other exams. Unfortunately, 
Mike didn't write all of them -
however, I am hoping they are all of the 
same level of quality. I
haven't taken a course in Oracle (any) for about 5 

year and
SQL/PLSQL in about 10-12. 

Total
hours to prepare : 30 hours 
Resources: Exam Cram by Mike
Ault and self-test exam 
Any additional costs - none 
Didn't want to study on clients
time so ended up studying mostly between the 

hours of
2:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m. in the morning. 

Hope the
others go well and can get this done before Oracle changes the 
criteria. 





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RE: View contents of global temp table

2002-10-07 Thread Bishop Lewis
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*Your
session* should be able to see the rows. If you commit (or rollback)
the table will be truncated. Are you commiting?





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In
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RE: Opening an 8.0.5 Database with 8i

2002-09-30 Thread Bishop Lewis

Under NT when doing the upgrade from 8.0.5 to 8i the database will be
mounted once the 8i services are created (assuming -startmode auto has been
supplied). There are various data dictionary objects that need upgrading via
the upgrade script (u0800050.sql) so it's a good idea to restrict access
immediately after creating the service and before running the upgrade
script. I would assume a similar scenario exists on unix based systems.

So the answer is yes - you can OPEN an 8.0.5 database under 8.1.7 but as for
successful use - who knows?

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Hi

I got a question from a co-worker about opening an 8.0.5 database using
8.1.7
Since I don't have 8.1.7 here to test it, does anybody know wether this is
possible or not ?
I guess not, maybe it can exclusively mounted/opened followed by some script
to upgrade it to 8.1.7 ?

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RE: MIcrosoft Blackmail

2002-09-26 Thread Bishop Lewis

If you want them to shut up and play nice(r) then I'd strongly
suggest having a few prominent G3's around on desktops and at
least one server (say file + print running Samba) with an RH
or SuSE sitcker on it next to the NT boxes on your rack. See
if that helps them understand your point of view...

Yes, this is quite an important point. MS's biggest selling point in the
past is that previously you had no choice. You do now.

MS Sales Rep: Mac's are too complex, and Linux is hard to administer

You: Err - no I don't think so - look over there - we currently run with
Linux servers performing mail, file and print server functions - and did you
know that they cost of ownership is competitive to MS even after we consider
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RE: Oracle Installer not launching in NT[Scanned]

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RE: Datafile size on NT or 2000

2002-09-06 Thread Bishop Lewis

The 4GB problem on NT was ONLY where it would autoextend over a 4gb boundary
(eg 4,8,12,16...). You can manually size the datafile whatever size you wish
- ie you can cross the boundary manually.

However, one place I recently contracted at were determined to cold backup
their 120GB data warehouse system and it was decided to zip the datafiles as
part of the backup process. Zip only handles files up to 4GB in size so they
standardised on 4000MB datafiles (zipped down they reduced to 80mb - yep
huge allocation, little data - it takes all sorts!) - guess who had to
rebuild the data warehouse to these specs! ;-(

So, on deciding your datafile size, be aware of various issues - mostly
regarding the management of these files. I would agree with my previous
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What is an ideal datafile size for a large database 10G  or greater

Oracle 8.1.6

We have been using slightly under 2G and looking for an ideal size and
possible reasons to use such a size


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RE: Why it picks the same PFile for both the DBs

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RE: Why it picks the same PFile for both the DBs

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RE: Data Warehouse on Windows -more

2002-08-20 Thread Bishop Lewis

Adar,

From what I understand and have seen it's not just at 4GB - it's EVERY 4GB.
So for example if your database extends from 3.8GB - 4.2GB it fail just as
it will extending from 7.8GB-8.2GB or 11.8GB - 12.2GB (for example).

It certainly DOESN'T mean that you can't use files larger than 4GB!

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This is not a boundary. It is a problem if you use autoextend and the file
grows from less then 4Gb to more then 4GB.

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 Where can I find the more information on this boundary? Is there any such
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 I was asked to give some hint for the hardware for a data warheouse
running
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 Project will have about 40 small and 7-8 large tables.  Users 20.
Probably
 long running queries.
 Which hardware would you use? How many processors?  Which disks?
 The os-system is set and cannot be Unix/Linux  according to management
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RE: Data Warehouse on Windows -more

2002-08-19 Thread Bishop Lewis

You can search metalink for 4gb boundary or windows 4gb corruption -
both of these should raise various notes which refer to it. But, as already
mentioned if you ensure AUTOEXTEND is OFF you'll have nothing to worry
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RE: Data Warehouse on Windows

2002-08-16 Thread Bishop Lewis

It is an Oracle on Windows problem. Basically it's not that you can't have
files over 4GB - just don't have autoextend on (something I always avoid
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I asked a Microsoft person here and he says that the file size limit for
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RE: Moving to UK - what are Oracle contracts like?

2002-08-16 Thread Bishop Lewis

Grant,

Well good luck. Things are still tight here in the UK (see a recent post
about FTV's) and there are many contractors on the bench. A recent group
forum topic touched on the fact that 35% of new signers-on (the dole) are
from IT.

Last year I had 2 stints of 6 weeks between contracts and consider myself
fortunate that it wasn't longer. It was great spending 3 months with the
family but it sure did eat into the savings. Right now, there is more work
OUTSIDE of London in areas such as the Midlands, Birmingham and York as well
as quite a bit on mainland Europe.

If you plan to come to London looking for a contract prepare yourself.

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I'm moving to the UK, and wonder what structure most contractors are
employed under.  I've read about IR35 (pretty much the same as the
alienation of income rule here is Aus).  Do people work as sole traders,
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RE: Data Warehouse on Windows

2002-08-15 Thread Bishop Lewis

Don't forget the Oracle/Windows 4GB boundary corruption problem!

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RE: Dba tools on NT

2002-08-13 Thread Bishop Lewis

Without a doubt - perl - get it free from www.activestate.com. Why use it?
Well, it is so flexible compared to other NT/DOS scripting tools you'll
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RE: DBVisualizer

2002-07-31 Thread Bishop Lewis

I've just downloaded it and you can issue select statements but it's just
that it says multi-sql statement scripts cannot be run... not really that
much use I guess! ;-) However, this is not what I would use it for - I'd
only use the 'references' section anyway - good tool though!

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Bill, sorry, but I tried your link to check out DBVisualizer.
It seems to be good, but it is not a freebie anymore.
With the current version you can see all your tables and so on, but you
cannot issue a select statement in the free version anymore.
Just for your interest.
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RE: GZip/WinZip...hot backups...

2002-07-18 Thread Bishop Lewis

From what i remember Winzip has a file limit of 4gb...

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A fellow DBA had mentioned that during his disaster recovery test, gzip had
unzipped his Solaris files but did not restore the .dbf extension.  Thus
leaving him to manually rename his files to include a .dbf extension.  He
examined the gzip man pages but could not find any flags to set or anything
to help.  Has anyone else encountered this?  Ideas?

During a hot backup, on W2K platform, he uses WinZip to backup/compress all
the datafiles into one large backup file.  Has anyone encountered any
problems with using this approach?  Versus using the ocopy or copy command?
He mentioned that on occasion he gets an error message from WinZip that the
file was open, but everything seems to work.

Many thanks in advance!!!

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RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior

2002-07-17 Thread Bishop Lewis

The Scheduler is installed with IE5.5 - definitively worth the install.

As far as executing some lines but not others - it sounds like a environment
variable problem to me - put a set command (to list variables and a pause
command in your script (or output a log file) and check that your
environmental settings are okay.

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Dave,

I've found AT to be flakey at best.  I haven't had your specific problem,
but I have had problems where AT would only occasionally run when it was
supposed to.

I don't remember if it was a specific NT patch or a version of IE explorer,
but one of these will install a Scheduler utility, which I've found to be
pretty reliable.  If you open My Computer (or explorer) you should see a
folder called Scheduled Tasks.  Double-click and then use the wizard to set
up a call to your batch file.

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On 7/17/02, Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT.  I do cold backups nightly and 
have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler.  I recently 
changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when 
the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not 
edit are executed.
If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. 
 I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still 
getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did 
not edit.  Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help.
Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? 
 I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in 
Windoze.  ;o)
And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. 
 I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. 
 I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule.  Now 
it is only used during the day.

Thanks,

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