RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

2001-09-26 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance



Jack,

Any 
issues with Terminal Services...since Oracle doesn't support Terminal Service's 
use?

Thanks,
Ed


  -Original Message-From: Jack C. Applewhite 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 
  2001 2:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for 
  maintenance
  Me 
  too. We've got our 4 Production Win2k servers (2 Oracle8i servers, 2 
  Webservers) at a colocation facility and have used either PCAnywhere or 
  Terminal Services to access them over the Internet for the last 9 
  months.
  
  The 
  developers have never needed to have access to the servers except to put in 
  the Cold Fusion CD to install CF Server. I've only needed access once, 
  to load some big files that I later imported into a test db on one of the 
  servers (actually, that's when I put in the CF CD, to save the developers a 
  trip). Even then, I really didn't need to be there, I could have 
  transferredmy files via PCAnywhere.
  
  If I 
  were the SysAdmin I would have needed access a couple of times to replace 
  failed drives, but the colocation guys took care of that. I recovered 
  our Production db remotely after they replaced the drives.
  
  It's 
  very nice to be able to PCAnywhere in to those boxes from 
  home.
  
  Jack
  Jack C. 
  ApplewhiteDatabase Administrator/DeveloperOCP Oracle8 
  DBAiNetProfit, Inc.Austin, 
  Texaswww.iNetProfit.com[EMAIL PROTECTED](512)327-9068
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kimberly SmithSent: 
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maintenance
You can use a tool such as ControlIT to connect to 
NT machines. Its how I do it, both from the 
office,
and from home. How do all these people who 
claim you need access to the server room to do the 
day to day stuff provide remote 
support? I will be damned if I come in during the middle of the night 
for 
a 
database issue. 



OT: Nostradamus: RE: RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-12 Thread Ed . Haskins

The following quatrain has been circulating the Internet after the WTC
bombings.

In the City of God there will be a great thunder, 
two brothers torn  apart by chaos, 
while the fortress endures, the great leader will sucumb. 
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning.

It is NOT by Nostradamus.

The original source may be
http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~nmarshal/nostradamus.htm.   Here is a short excerpt
from that page.

How does this apply to Nostradamus? Well I will show you...

If I make say a thousand prophecies that are fairly abstract for example:

In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by
Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb

Well let us analyse this. For Example what does City of God mean? It could
be Mecca, Medina, Rome, Jeruselum, Salt Lake City, or any holy city
depending on your religion. What do I mean by thunder--a storm? War?
EarthQuake? lots of stuff can be described by thunder. There are a lot of
two brothers on this world (I think the Number runs among the Billions) and
fortress edure's what--Besiegement, Famine, etc? What Great Leader? How will
he succumb? To what? 


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I just got this from a friend.

In the City of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn 
apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will 
succumb.  The third big war will begin when the big city is burning. 
On the 11th day of the 19th month that two metal birds would crash 
into two tall statues in the new city and the world will end soon 
after.

Michel de Nostredame Nostradamus
Century 9, Quatrain 16:54

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YEAH, CRUSH THE A**HOLE'S and ANYONE or GOVERNMENT who supports this act! 

* THIS IS AN ACT OF WAR, comparable if not worst than Pearl Harbor *

Gene

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/01 12:15PM 
My heart goes out to our friends in America...this is sad, sad newslet's
hope your president makes the right decisions in handling this affair...

K.

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The BBC seems to have more info than the U.S. web sites.

Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, 13:35 GMT 14:35
  UK 
  Planes 'attack' World Trade Center

  A huge explosion rocks one of towers
  Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center
  in New York City while an explosion has rocked the
  Pentagon in Washington DC. 

  The White House is reportedly being evacuated. 

  One report says six people have been killed in the
  New York incident while hundreds have been injured. 

  Smoke is pouring from the upper storeys of both
  towers of the World Trade Center. 

  The building, one of the world's tallest, has been badly
  damaged in what President George W Bush has
  described as an apparent terrorist attack. 

  He said: We will find those who committed this
  attack. 

  New York police have been
  quoted as saying that both
  planes were hijacked from
  Boston. 

  A few minutes after the
  first tower was hit by a
  passenger plane, a
  second, similar plane was
  seen flying into the second
  tower. A huge explosion
  was seen. 

  Eyewitnesses say the first
  plane crashed into the West Tower after flying
  unusually low over Manhattan Island. 

  A BBC correspondent says 10 to 15 floors have been
  affected by the crash. 

  Briton James Winter, 30, living in an apartment close
  to the centre, said he was woken a huge bang at
  around 0800 local time. 

  I was in bed and there was a huge explosion. The
  whole building rattled and shook, he said. 

  I ran to the window and there was smoke billowing
  from the south side of one of the towers. Everyone in
  my building was panicking and running around. 

  The World Trade Center consists of two 110-story
  skyscrapers, New York's tallest buildings. One of the
  towers is just six feet (two metres) taller than the
  other. 

  About 40,000 people work inside the two-building
  centre, and more than 150,000 people enter the
  complex every day. 

  On 26 February, 1993, a terrorist bomb exploded in
  building number one's lower level.


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RE: Apologies... linux Oracle

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: Apologies... linux & Oracle



O.K...it looks like SCO was bought by Caldera, who 
sells a distribution of Linux under that name.

Ed


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  Apologies... linux  Oracle
  Lisa
  
  SuSe 
  is the best so I have been told. I am about to install 8i on 7.1 and another 
  guy here is installing 9i on 7.2.
  
  Totally untested on my behalf as I haven't started 
  yet but that is the best I have been told.
  
  Probably of no use whatsoever !!!
  
  Lee
  
  
  
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Apologies... linux  Oracle
Sorry everyone, I know you were just discussing 
this recently. 
What is the most stable combination of Oracle 
 Linux? What would you recommend? I want to say the 
consensus was SCO Linux but I don't quite remember. 
Thank you 
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RE: Apologies... linux Oracle

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: Apologies... linux & Oracle



SCO 
makes a version of Linux now? 

Ed

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 
  11:51 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Apologies... linux  Oracle
  Sorry everyone, I know you were just discussing 
  this recently. 
  What is the most stable combination of Oracle  
  Linux? What would you recommend? I want to say the consensus was 
  SCO Linux but I don't quite remember. 
  Thank you 
  Lara Croft Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc 


TNSPING Test Script for NT

2001-08-21 Thread Ed . Haskins

Can anyone help me with a simple .bat script for NT that will run a TNSPING
against a certain connect descriptor and write the results to a file.  I
need to have the TNSPING run for say 1000 loops.  Once complete, I can
search through the file for errors.

Thanks,
Ed
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RE: linux

2001-08-20 Thread Ed . Haskins



Nope!

  -Original Message-From: Saravana Kumar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 
  August 20, 2001 10:46 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: linux
  Hi Friends,
   
  I have small clarification to be made.
   Can oracle for linux 
  software be intalled on FREE BSD.
  
  Thanks in advance
  
  Saravana
   



RE: Oracle books

2001-05-08 Thread Ed . Haskins

It kinda depends on your environment, but I like:

Oracle8i DBA Handbook
Oracle Press

Oracle8i Backup and Recovery
Oracle Press

Oracle 24x7 Tips and Techniques
Oracle Press

Oracle Networking 101
Oracle Press

Oracle Documentation
http://otn.oracle.com

This covers much of the core Oracle DBA stuff.  For some advanced topics:

Oracle Internal Services: Waits, Latches...
Steve Adams
O'Reilly

Unix for Oracle
Don Burleson
O'Reilly

(Can't remember exact name) Oracle Performance Tuning
Guy Harrison
(Publisher?)

Haven't read book yet, but looks good:
Oracle STATS Pack
Don Burleson
Oracle Press

Hope that helps

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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Being a relatively new and often times struggling Oracle DBA I was wondering
what 3 or 4 books everyone recommends as a must have reference/knowledge
base in day to day support/programming of their databases.

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RE: cdump, bdump, udump

2001-04-24 Thread Ed . Haskins

Yeah, as soon as Palm increases the amount of Memory to something like 1GB.

;-)

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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maybe someone should convert them to Palm DOC format and we can load
them on our Palms to carry with us *everywhere*.;-)

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RE: Oracle vs DB2

2001-04-24 Thread Ed . Haskins

Dennis,

The IBM Sales Critter hit the nail on the head by saying:

that in some cases, IBM is *giving* DB2 away, if there's enough ancillary
business (hardware, consulting, etc).

It's that ancillary business you better watch out for!!  IBM is using DB2
as their Loss-Leader.

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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At 10:46 AM 4/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
Not true. You can use the Standard Edition for serving web pages. We're
doing it. 

Yep. I've corrected myself on that in another email.

One thing I don't get: it's $6,000 Cdn for a 1-user license, right? How is
a
1-user license going to do you any good if you're serving web pages? Just
interested in how the WE Internet Access works.

The 1-user license + WE = a legal DB2 web-database. This according to the
IBM salescritter. Got it on paper, too. :-)


We had some IBM guys in here late last year, and they couldn't give us any
better pricing than what we could get Oracle Standard Edition for.

Times change. My salescritter is saying that in some cases, IBM is *giving*
DB2 away, if there's enough ancilliary business (hardware, consulting, etc).

I guess I should add a disclaimer to my rant at this point. We are a small
shop. I mean *SMALL* shop. 30 people in the company. 30K for a web database
may be peanuts for a fortune 500 company, but for us, it's significant.
YMMV.




Dennis Taylor

Beware of false economies.

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RE: Recall: Listener.log

2001-04-24 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: Recall: Listener.log




  
  Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) would like to recall the message, 
  "Listener.log". 
  Matt,
  No 
  need to recall...we don't bite!!
  Ed


MORE NEWS: ANOTHER ELLISON GUARANTEE - RE: News flash - IBM buys

2001-04-24 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: RE: News flash - IBM buys Informix



REDWOOD SHORES, Calif.  Hoping to 
reassure skittish customers, Oracle Corp. is guaranteeing to install a complex 
piece of online business software in 90 days or the company will give the 
product away. 
The Redwood Shores-based software company will introduce the new promise 
Tuesday under a new marketing campaign called "The War on the Complexity," CEO 
Larry Ellison said Monday during a 90-minute meeting with reporters. 
The pledge amplifies on Oracle's efforts to build upon its leadership in 
database software to sell more products that help companies automate a wide 
range of sales and administrative chores. 
It also represents the latest in a long history of marketing gimmicks for 
Oracle, which is trying to dominate Internet software like archrival Microsoft 
Corp. does personal computer software. 

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  Informix
  Why doesn't he buy IBM ? 
  Rivaldi Oracle DBA 
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  I think Larry should buy Sybase!! 
  Ed Haskins Oracle DBA Verizon Wireless 
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  It has been announced today that IBM has purchased Informix. 
  See your local tech news service later today for 
  details. 
  H. Wonder what Larry thinks about this? 
  Cheers, 
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RE: ORA-04030

2001-04-23 Thread Ed . Haskins

128MB of memory is killing you!  Oracle's stated minimum requirements are
128MB (but they recommend 256MB).  In fact, the Oracle Installer won't even
run without 128MB (in 8.1.6 and higher).

Ed Haskins
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What did you try and resize it to?  Remember, you only have 128 mbs.

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How big is your shared pool size ? Do you have many dynamic SQLs ? You may
want to keep the sys packages in the shared pool, so that your shared pool
won't be fragmented by dynamic SQLs.

Thanks
Riyaj Re-yas Shamsudeen
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I've got a such error when run a PL/SQL scripts
on Windows 2000, Orcale 8.1.7 with 128MB memory

ORA-04030: out of process memory when trying to allocate 257280 bytes (PLS
non-lib hp,PAR.C:parchk:ptb)

I've tried to change settings in init.ora but this didn't help.


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HYPER VOLUMES - RE: Never split index and data files ...

2001-04-23 Thread Ed . Haskins

Dick,

Thanks!

SAME also suggests using the outer half of each disk for data storage...as
I/O performance is increased due to the natural circular shape of the
platter.  My question...how do you specify which sections of each disk are
utilized?  From what I've been able to read, I'm guessing that hyper
volumes could be used for this??  I'm not sure...haven't had the
opportunity to play with this yet.  Anyone have an answer for this?

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
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ED,

Damn good question!  No I won't take it as sarcastic at all.

Now to your point:  We had to implement this particular strategy about 4
years ago due to the vendor we bought a disk array from (IPL).  They were
somewhat ahead of the curve here.  Simple theory, they configured the 30GB
array
as one very large disk drive with all of the disks striped and mirrored.
Simply
put the SAME principle.  Problem, there was only one SCSI channel into the
array, OOPS, bottle neck par excellence!  Again not too far in the recent
past
we did a similar thing with some EMC disk, but this time we used 4 SCSI
cables
with EMC's Power Path software.  OH FUDGE, the 4 hyper volumes were all on
the
same spindle, Damn, bottle neck par excellence again.

So as you can see, it makes a wonderful theory, but I haven't seen the
pudding, yet.  Still trying!

Dick Goulet

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Dick,

Don't take this the wrong way...it's NOT meant to be sarcastic:

You said SAME is a great theory, but I can't and haven't seen it perform
well in practice, yet.

My question to you:  Have you seen it in practice at all?  An actual working
implementation?

For that matter; has ANYONE seen it implemented in a production environment?
I'm sure it must be somewhere, but I'm curious if anyone knows where.

This is a subject that I'm really into right now...that's why I'm prodding a
bit!

Thanks,

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless



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Steve,

I heard about this SAME philosophy at the last NorthEast Oracle Users
Group
meeting from a individual who works on the utilities for Oracle in the New
England Development Office.  Although we did not get deeply into the
philosophy,
I'll agree that it is not the silver bullet, actually it can become a
performance detractor.  The individual who wrote the paper for Oracle (Anjo
Kolk) is a LONG time Oracle person, actually wrote the core of the kernel,
so I
believe he's probably writing from a purely theoretical point of view.  In
that
light what he's saying would be true, stripe  mirror everything and
theoretically you should never have an io bottleneck.  BUT, many hardware
platforms don't handle mirroring very well unless your using a disk array
like
EMC's.  Now that handles the mirror internally so we've alleviated that
problem,
but EMC likes to break their drives into 'hyper volumes' so your stripping
may
or may not be across physical drives.  Also your stripes can still have the
bottle neck of the number of SCSI cards in the computer.  In any case taking
a
little time to insure that redo logs, archive logs, indexes, and data are
all
REALLY spread out across devices is the only way to go.  SAME is a great
theory,
but I can't and haven't seen it perform well in practice, yet.

Dick Goulet

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Hi All,

The author (Anjo Kolk) is an advocate of SAME (stripe and mirror
everything).
The SAME philosophy is that everything should be striped across all the
disks
available. Separating indexes from their tables is contrary to that
philosophy.
I don't agree with it, but that's where he's coming from anyway.

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
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Whoaaa, I sure hope someone can, because I have never heard that before?
Kev

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Guys,

i was checking my statspack report on oraperf and i came across this
statement.

Never split index and data files to different sets of disks.

can anyone xplain the logic behind this.

Thanks
Mandar

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RE: PL/SQL-if-statement

2001-04-19 Thread Ed . Haskins
Title: RE: PL/SQL-if-statement



Pool 
Party? Where? I hear that the new power drink "Red Bull" tastes 
great with Absolut!!


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  Hi Q, how's lovely MN? 
  That was in response to other people in our company who have 
  their self-important MS certifications spelled out in their entirety in their 
  signature. 
  Instead of spelling out 'Oracle Certified Professional - 
  Database Administrator' in my signature I figured I could be creative. 
  The only title I nixed was Supreme Queen Office B*ch... though it is 
  rather appropriate. I also was promoted to 'Senior Dba' last week but I 
  don't think that's appropriate, either... Titles are nothing ! 
  They pay me way too much for how much goofing off I do.
  It's been a long week and tomorrow afternoon is Pool Party 
  Time at my house. Everyone's invited :) Captain Morgan and Sir 
  Absolut will be making an appearance.
  Cheers All!!! 
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  How can I change this pl/sql code, in the 
  while-statement maybe so that if the field 
  OWNER_NO is NULL, then it should be written six characters? 
  
  The code looks like this: 
  "IF recCursor.OWNER_NO is null then vOWNER_NO := '00'; else v_OWNER_NO:= to_char(recCursor.OWNER_NO); WHILE 
  length(vOWNER_NO)  6 LOOP vOWNER_NO '0'0' || 
  vOWNER_NO; END LOOP; END 
  IF; 
  How shoud I write to fix this script so therw will be written 
  out 6 characters if the field OWNER_NO is empty. I 
  want to use the WHILE LOOP. Any one whom can help me 
  with this? 
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RE: Large Redo Logs

2001-04-19 Thread Ed . Haskins

Yes, I can...I think.

What it is saying is...it is possible to have a volume or partition extended
over multiple disks.  For example; you can have 2 4GB Hard Drives, and it is
possible to Format Drive 1 as let's say Drive D:\, then format 2GB of Drive
2 and add it as an "Extended Partition" of D:\.  If you have a 5GB datafile
(or index), the file would be on one "logical" partition, but two physical
hard drives.

You don't want to do this!  Thus, "Never split index and data files to
different sets of disks." (UNLESS: you are using RAID...then it makes sense
that your datafiles will be spread over multiple disks).

Hope that helps!

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless


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Whoaaa, I sure hope someone can, because I have never heard that before?
Kev

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Guys,

i was checking my statspack report on oraperf and i came across this
statement.

"Never split index and data files to different sets of disks."

can anyone xplain the logic behind this.

Thanks
Mandar
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RE: server sizing

2001-04-17 Thread Ed . Haskins

Lerone,

My opinion is that your database on an NT platform will not scale as well as
you may hope.  You are talking about adding 100-150% more data and tripling
your users to 300.  I would strongly recommend going to a Unix platform for
your database.  Also, if the database is going to grow that much...it is
likely a write intensive application that would perform better on something
other than RAID5...maybe RAID0+1.  

Certainly there are servers that can handle this load...on NT, but if you
are going to that large a server...why not go Unix and increase your
performance (I know, an NT box costs less...but if cost isn't an issue!?!).

That's just my opinion...and I actually started my IT career as an NT Admin!

Ed Haskins
Oracle DBA
Verizon Wireless



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in gaining knowledge about oracle I've been introduced to some concepts,
components, and concerns and I'd like to get some general feedback.  so, in
general how big of a deal is server design?  what would you use as criteria
for decision making, like the need for multiple controllers and drive/file
system configurations.

my background is with ms-sql/nt and we're looking at migrating/upgrading to
oracle/nt.  we've had success with raid 5 via a single controller with
multiple channels.  I've been to the oracle dba pt 1a and have been exposed
to oracle architecture; we never had such concerns so I have no basis of
comparison.  our instructor and classmates, while knowledgeable, were more
developers than system engineers; whereas we'll be more system
engineers/administrators than developers.  what kinds of metrics/performance
should I be looking at, considering, and shooting for from the start?

right now we have about 100 users and a 20G DB which *will* increase to
probably 300 users and 40G to 50G DB; on average we're looking at about
thirty thousand transactions over an 11 hour period; again that'll probably
increase to 70,000 to 80,000 transactions over an 11 hour period.
reads/writes/queries/indexes, their size and speed, and other such
processing metrics, were never a concern.

===
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Abbott LBG
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RE: Oracle being scalable

2001-04-05 Thread Ed . Haskins

When you click on the link...add 'tml'(as in ,html) to the URL...it was cut
off on the hyperlink provided!

Ed Haskins
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Did you really mean the error page?  RBG

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 Have you seen this?


http://www.oracle.com/ip/deploy/database/featurestory/index.html?wintergrp.h
 tml

 Regards,

 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle DBA)
 Bedford Institute of Oceanography
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RE: Upgrade from 8.0.6 to 8.1.7

2001-03-29 Thread Ed . Haskins

Pallav,

Go to http://otn.oracle.com and get the Oracle8i Migration document under
"Documentation".  That will provide you with what you need!

Ed Haskins
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Hi Guys, 

   Did anyone do an upgrade from oracle 8.0.6 to 8.1.7 version in a Sun
Solaris envrionment ?? Can you send me  step by step procedure on how
to do it, I cant find any good documents on metalink. 

Thanks!
Pallav Kalva

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RE: OPS

2001-03-27 Thread Ed . Haskins

FYI: They must also be on Raw Partitions!!

Ed Haskins
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For an OPS configuration, disks have to be shared among the nodes, 
which usually means some kind of common IO bus (SCSI, FCAL, SSA).
That means that the nodes must be within cca. 2 miles (3 km). 

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Hi all!
Does anyone know is it possible to configure OPS between two remote sites?

TIA,
Sonja
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