RE: Oracle Expert and FK indexes

2001-12-17 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Hello, Patrice -- I realize that you wrote this last month.  Did you ever
draw any conclusions about this behavior?

I am trodding the foreign key ground right now hoping to find the golden key
to a huge performance issue.
I found many unindexed foreign keys (using the scripts per Note:16428.1),
however none were in the areas I was researching.

I wonder if Expert wanted you to drop them if your table has few rows or if
it has very little variability in the values.
Did you ever find the answer to why Expert suggested this?  Just wondering.

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Does someone know why the Oracle Expert would recommend dropping indexes on
FK columns?

Maybe it calculates there is a low likelihood of the table being locked
during referential integrity checks ?

I thought it was a good idea to have indexes on FK columns... this is an old
7.3.4.5. database.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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RE: recovery

2001-09-26 Thread Shreter, Hilary
Title: RE: recovery



Perhaps preserve the CURRENT redo logs so that after the archived ones 
bring you up to their lasttime, you can use the currents to come up to the 
last moments?

(I've 
not tried this exact scenario though)

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) 
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  RE: recovery
  The control files are all intact and the database is 
  open. Only one datafile (for an offline tablespace) is 
  missing. 
   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
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  troff, for it is subtle and quick to anger. 

   -Original Message-  
  From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:27 PM  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L  Subject: RE: recovery  
It is correct if the 
  files weren't renamed or physically  removed. 
  In that  case, you have  to re-create the controlfile and do recovery using backup 
   controlfile (which  
  means that it  doesn't have the target 
  SCN).   -Original 
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It's been a while 
  for this scenerio for me.   Other dba takes a tablespace offline to shuffle files 
   around. Accidently nukes on of the files 
  clear out of  exsistence. DB is in 
  archivelog mode.   
  Recovery steps as I recall them.   1) get missing file from last backup  
  2) Get needed archive log files from backup  3) 
  issue 'alter database recover tablespace blah'  
   correct?  
 
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RE: Oracle Applications patches

2001-08-28 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Dear Patrice, 

The megapatches are worth installing, since they fix lots of bugs. 
There is a pulldown list in the patch getter screen that lets you ask for
all megapatches or similar.

Also check the release notes to see if there are any interoperability
patches.
(Interops let this version of Apps work with that version of Server, etc.
all down the technology stack UGGG!)

Have you dicided which products to install?  That will tighten up the list!
US Payroll has a lot of patches as the legislatures of the 50 states and
numerous municipalities create scope creep (however it keeps people employed
to apply the resulting patches).

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I did a quick search in Metalink for Oracle Applications patches... and
Metalink returned 500 items!

Are there patches that are more critical than others?

I have a copy of Oracle Applications for NT, I just want to learn to install
it, configure, and play with it a little.

(500!  Unbelievable).

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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RE: How do they get the answer?

2001-08-21 Thread Shreter, Hilary



They can't give any raises this year. 
They have to hire a data modeler using those monies. There were at least 
four raises that could be used for this purpose.

  -Original Message-From: Brian McGraw 
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  21, 2001 3:26 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: How do they get the 
  answer?It's possible, but not the only possibility. 
  Therefore you can't answer A. 
  And if you're not certain, you can't answer the question. Because 
  this is the Oracle OCP exam. The thing that you've studied night 
  and day for. Everything you learned in the two-night class preparing you 
  for database administration and nuclear physics. This is crunch time, 
  baby - right or wrong? You make the call. Pressure's on. 
  Which will it be? What if this is the question that will put me 
  under that passing grade. A or C? A or C? Which will it 
  be? What will I do? You want the truth? You want the 
  truth? You can't handle the truth! 
  I'm heading back to the espresso machine now... 
  Brian 
  JOE TESTA wrote: 
  i still stand by(reading into the question) 
that it could be only 2 teachers get a raise, if the same 2 teachers teach 
both of those courses. would they get twice as much of a raise? 
:)joe 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/21/01 12:52PM  in the where 
clause, the IN says "any teachers that are in any of these subjects. Since 
there are two subjects in the IN set and at least 2 teachers have to teach 
each subject, 2*2=4. Basic mathematics: at least 4 teachers will get a 
raise. 
Jon Walthour   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: 
2001/08/21 Tue PM 12:25:54 EDT  To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject: How do they get the 
answer?   I am taking the Self-Test software test for the 
SQL exam  and don't see how they get the answer to this problem. 
 They don't explain how it is arrived at.   Any help 
you can give me will be appreciated.   Thanks,  Ken 
Janusz, CPIM   --  
 Examine the structure of the TEACHER table:   
Name 
Null? Type  
ID 
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)  
SALARY 
NUMBER  (7,2)  
SUBJECT_ID 
NOT NULL NUMBER(3)  
SUBJECT_DESCRIPTION 
VARCHAR2(2)   There are 200 teachers and 15 subjects. 
Each subject is  taught  by at least 2 teachers.  
 Evaluate this PL/SQL block:   DECLARE 
 
v_pct_raise number := 1.10; 
 BEGIN  
UPDATE teacher 
 
SET salary = salary * 1.10 
 
WHERE subject_id IN (102, 105); 
 COMMIT;  END;   
Which result will the PL/SQL block provide?   (A) Only two 
teachers will receive a 10% salary increase.  (B) All of the 
teachers will receive a 10% salary  increase.  (C) At least 
four teachers will receive a 10% salary  increase.  (D) A 
syntax error will occur.   Answer:  (C)  
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RE: SMP/MPP and PQO

2001-06-12 Thread Shreter, Hilary



"In 
Search of Clusters" by Gregory F. Pfister, 2nd edition, Prentice-Hall (Saddle 
River, NJ) 1998 isbn 0-13-899709-8 and it is a wonderful 
book.
I wish 
there were other technical books like this. The book isreadable, 
fun, and excruciatingly technical all at the same time.

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:19 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  SMP/MPP and PQO
  I 
  think it was just updated, too. 
  
  Great book.
  
-Original Message-From: Henry Poras 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:04 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
SMP/MPP and PQO
Lisa,
If 
you are interested in more detail on the differences between SMP, NUMA, and 
clusters, there is a great book "In search of clusters". It's one of the 
best technical books I've read. I can't remember the author's name, but 
maybe another list member can help. I picked it up because someone else on 
the list recomended it a while ago.

Henrh

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SMP/MPP and 
  PQOHi Lisa 
  SMP - In 
  SMP many CPUs share the same memory. Typical example would be E450, 4 
  processors, 4GB memory. Only L2 cache in the CPUs need to be co-ordinated 
  when a memory buffer is changed or intended to change. MPP - In MPP each CPU 
  has its own memory and its own disks that they control (typically). An 
  example would be nCUBE or IBM RS6000, where each processor runs its own OS 
  and messaging is used heavily to coordinate the access to the 
  resources.
   NUMA - Nun -uniform memory access - Group of CPUs share the same 
  memory and the messaging is used between the group of the CPUs to 
  coordinate the access to the resource. An example would be Sequent NUMA-Q, 
  where there are multiple quads and each quad has 4 cpus and 2GB memory 
  (typically) and IQ-link coordinates the access to the resources between 
  the quads. HP has ccNUMA for this. Now, I don't think, E10k domain would 
  qualify for a MPP, since there is no coordination or access restrictions 
  between the domains ( at least that I know of). Each domain can manipulate 
  its own disk / memory /devices without any messaging between the domains, 
  in a non-clustered environment. PQ architecture splits the FTS or long 
  running operations on non-partitioned tables, in to multiple chunks based 
  upon the rowid ranges. It is not a simple split though. First, work is 
  divided in to degree of parallelism. For example, if the QC process 
  determines that it has to scan 100,000 blocks and parallelism is 
  determined as 4 then 25000 would be the split. But not all 25000 block is 
  handed over to the slave processes. QC uses 9/13 rule. QC hands over 9/13 
  of the work (i.e. 25000 * 9/13=17307) blocks equally to the slave 
  processes. When the slave processes finishes up the 9/13 work, then they 
  get 3/13 of the work (25000 *3/13=5769) blocks and 1/13 of the work when 
  the second set of 3/13s are exhausted. This is done to evenly distribute 
  the load. For example, there could data skew such that one process could 
  finish up its 9/13 work much faster than other processes and hence those 
  processes can take up the rema! in! ! ing work. The suitability of PQO 
  parallelism should be defined by IO sub system in conjunction with CPU 
  power. If you have many spindles in 2 cpu server my take on it would 
  be to use parallelism of 2 to4 depending upon the cpu clock speed, disk 
  speed, memory etc..   
ThanksRiyaj 
  "Re-yas" ShamsudeenCertified Oracle DBAi2 technologies  
  www.i2.com 
  


  
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 Subject:SMP/MPP and 
PQOHello everyone, 
  I was reading up on the differences 
  between SMP, MPP and how they may affect PQO (Parallel Query). 
  My understanding is that MPP is a host 
  with defined domains (like an e10k with virtual machines on it). SMP 
  is a standalone host with no domains and multiple processors. I am 
  not considering clustering here. 
  It seemed to me the only requirement 
  that you really need to run PQO is to have available resources to power 
  it. For example, a little 2-cpu box that is pinned a majority of the 
  time is 

RE: OT: Archiving not possible with SQL Server?

2001-05-31 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Bet you aren't an idiot: bet you're suffering from Microsoft-induced
aphasia.
I hate MS's habit of taking perfectly good industry vocabulary and making
the words mean too-specific proprietary things.
Works in MS's favor: helps the MSCEs makes the rest of the world feel like
idiots!

As far as the archiving, I curse both houses Oracle and Microsoft.  On my
old RDB (when it was Digital) database, I could take a reliable fast full
backup any old time, and throw away any old backups that I'd created before.
Not like Oracle where I have to quilt together old redo logs/datafiles or
SQL Server where I have to keep all of the silly transaction logs to make
any kind of reliable copy. 

Before you flame: yes I could quilt together RDB with the After-Image
Journals, and I could take am Oracle backup with export/import or use a
fancy Sql Server utility and have a semi-reliable backup. I'm only arguing
that the scale of work associated with the task at hand seemed much more
appropriate in RDB. 'Course RDB ran on proprietary operating system OOPS!
start a new flame!

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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:41 AM
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Yeah? But you know what? After few hours with SQL manual I'm starting to
feel like an idiot.

Supreme Council says: All Aboard MS SQL!
Me says: Abandon Ship!

Gary Weber
Senior DBA
Charles Jones, LLC
609-530-1144, ext 5529

-Original Message-
Patrice J
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:35 AM
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Jared is having a bad day.

: )

Patrice Boivin
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-Original Message-
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Subject:Re: OT: Archiving not possible with SQL Server?


Are you an idiot?

Jared


On Wednesday 30 May 2001 14:55, Gary Weber wrote:
 Guess what happens when a long running transaction marks

 the log near the end, and not too long afterward the log
 needs truncated? If memory serves, ( hasn't worked too well lately
:) the
 database
 will hang.  It may just truncate back to the mark, and start from
 there, but you always have the possibility of another long
 transaction starting.

 HELP

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RE: MICROSOFTDTPROPERTIES

2001-05-23 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Is this table residing in an Oracle database ??  
This is the special table that MS Access sets up in order to hold 2-3 little
properties that it wanted.

I don't want to cause Microsoft to drag me to court so I'm not clipping...
Please get to www.microsoft.com, see explanation to Q247828 which describes
this table and OTHER stuff that gets added!!

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The developer created the table and now doesn't know what is does???  
As penance, said developer(s) must write I will document all changes fully
and RTFM in their own blood, 10,000 times on the floor without using their
hands.

Then:
1)  export tables=MICROSOFTDTPROPERTIES ...desired options here
2)  DROP TABLE MICROSOFTDTPROPERTIES;
3)  see who/what/if anything breaks, whines, or snivels...

All assuming this is a development instance.  You WERE NOT letting them poke
around in a production instance, correct?

Your Friend in Evil,

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost
certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition
to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Gras via your Ninja Death
Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box and
get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue.  --Jay Trigg


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 I have developers who have created this table. Now they've come to me to
 find out what the table does. I think it is used by the Microsoft
 Transaction Server software. Does anyone know for sure the purpose of the
 MICROSOFTDTPROPERTIES table?
 
 Michael Armstead  
 Application Database Administrator, OCP-Certified
 US Pharmaceuticals IT
 Glaxo SmithKline
 
 
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RE: Another Database Down

2001-05-23 Thread Shreter, Hilary
Title: Another Database Down



No 
need to panic yet! Check out Metalink note 1034037.6 which has about 4 possible 
reasons for this -- all pretty simple. 

  -Original Message-From: Burton, Laura L. 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:27 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Another Database Down
  Well, I think the time for jubilation has been 
  short-lived for me. The production database was recovered successfully 
  due to archiving and luck. I also have a small, inhouse, remedy (help 
  desk) database that I haven't done anything with and now recovery is necessary 
  for it as well. The bad news is I wasn't archiving, and although I do 
  have a physical backup, the database was not down.
  I restored the datafiles, control files, and redo 
  logs so that everything would be for the same time, but when I try to open the 
  database I get the error "cannot mount database in exclusive mode." The 
  error states that an instance already has it open in exclusive or parallel 
  mode. I am assuming this is because the database was not closed when the 
  backup was executed. 
  I have tried a few things to 'trick' it, but I 
  guess my magic tricks are not good enough to fool the crowd. I am 
  already bracing myself for what I will probably read in response to this...but 
  I am hopeful that someone will find that rabbit in the hat.
  Thank you in advance, Laura 


RE: Oracle Books on Audio Tapes

2001-03-29 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Might want to have a chat with Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic. They
might have such books, or they might advise you on how to structure an audio
for this purpose. It's convenient that the docs come as small HTML files all
linked together -- a voice-activated PC might be able to handle this
requirement. 


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Surely there's a Reader's Digest Condensed Version

Or how about Cliff Notes?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/01 10:45AM 
Also, for Oracle 7 at least, the documentation is about 10,000 pages long,
that would take a lot of tapes.

Regards,

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle DBA)
Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Fisheries and Oceans Canada



 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:36 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Re: Oracle Books on Audio Tapes
 
 
 --- Apps Sol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Is there any place where we can get Oracle books  on Tape (Audio
  tapes or CD's) 
  RK
 
 
 I doubt it. From what I understand, audio books are primarily made from
 best-selling fiction. What non-fiction audio books exist are probably
 limited to stuff with the broadest general appeal (best-sellers).
 
 I've personally never heard of technical books on tape/audio CD.
 However, you might be able to make your own, rather tediously, if you
 receive a PDF version along with a "dead tree" technical book.
 
 1. Copy-paste the text from the PDF to your word processor of choice.
 2. Use text-to-speech software to creave WAV files
 3. Burn to CD.
 
 Or, you may want to purchase some Oracle Computer-Based-Training CDROMs
 and burn the audio tracks to an audio CD(if they're in a standard audio
 format or a format you could convert to WAVs) - or convert and download
 to an MP3 player. That's probably your best choice, though an expensive
 one.
 
  - Dana
 
 
 
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RE: Oracle Books on Audio Tapes

2001-03-29 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Good point on visuals. RBD readers describe those features for the tape.
Makes the reading job challenging, and very useful value-added for the
recipient.

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Bill,

There are some graphic technologies available ("tactile" stuff?), 
from what I recall, they are rather specialized/esoteric, and not 
"one size fits all" (we have a federal grant here to provide remedial 
math instruction including visually impaired students - including 
some "learning disabilities" that are caused by "visual processing" 
deficits). also, the above mentioned solutions tend to be big $$$, 
either for the product, or related set up, training and maintenance 
(or all), and it isn't unusual for only the more "nerdy" disabled 
types to be able to use the stuff effectively.  

regards,
ep

ps, federal education programs grant site pages: 

   http://www.ed.gov/offices/OPE/
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   http://www.ed.gov/offices/OPE/HEP/sitemap.html
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(look at: TRIO, etc: http://www.ed.gov/offices/OPE/HEP/cfda.html )


On 29 Mar 2001, at 11:15, William Beilstein wrote:


 My problem is not with the blind, I'm blind in one eye myself, but
 how you would represent tables, flow diagrams ...


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RE: Which account do I need to change password besides system,sys

2001-03-08 Thread Shreter, Hilary

Careful!! You need to use the SAME password for APPS and APPLSYS.  
Also (maybe new in 11i?): p. 171 of the Admin manual says that ALL the
schema passwords have to be the same.
I'm referring to the section "Change Oracle Apps Password" in Ch. 6 of
"Maintaining Oracle Applications Rel 11i" part A83525-01.

I'm just starting on 11i myself else I'd know the answers for sure instead
of quoting you the manual!  Good luck to you and the system. - Hilary.

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Hi,

We are about to implement the HRMS 11I Applications.  

The password for the following accounts has to be changed : SYS, SYSTEM,
APPS (for HRMS 11I Applications)

Is there any account that I've missed out ? Please advise. Thanks.

Regds,
ChorLing
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