RE: Veritas Backup Question

2004-01-15 Thread Smith, Ron L.
If you have the room, I would suggest doing a daily export of the
database until you get all the problems ironed out with Netbackup.
Especially if you are trying to do incremental backups.  That way you
will at least have something to restore with if you find out your
Netbackup plan wasn't working.  Also, don't trust any backup plan until
you have backed it up every which way AND restored it using the backups.

I export every day and then run the export through WinZip to save space.
I keep the export around for at least a week.

Good Luck!

R. Smith


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Teresita,

You've gotten some good comments...even a quick tutorial on backups.  My
recommendation to you (especially if you don't have any backups at all)
is 
that until you're more familiar with the tools you have that you should 
initially avoid the complexities of incremental backups and immediately 
arrange for a regular cold (database down) backup.  Minimally this
should 
include all datafiles, control files, online redologs, and archived
redologs 
(you didn't say whether or not you are in archivelog mode).  But don't
stop 
with these files.  Check documentation CD.  It will have a section on
backup 
and recovery.

Kip

  
|Hi!!
|My name is Tere Castro I am from Mexico I am not a DBA, I uses ORacle 
|just to make queries, funtions some updates and create indexes or 
|tables, that all.
 
|Now I am in a little difficult situation, here we have a DBA that do 
|not have much experience. He has been working with Veritas NetBackup  
|4.5 for Windows  for three moths with out results. We still can not 
|make a backup of our data bases. The situation is that because of that 
|my boss make me work with him in this task, of course I don't know 
|anything about the issue and my priority for tomorrow is to make and 
|investigation of how other people make their backups with Veritas.
|Our DBA explain us that it was a way that he saw in a book, first make
a
|complete backup of our databases on Sunday then from Monday thru
Wednesday
|made a incremental backup, then from Thursday thru Saturday make
another
|incremental backup, but this one will be done from the last incremental
|backup of Wednesday to the day we are.
 
|-
|---
|---
| -
| --
| --
|   Complete backup
|1  2   34567
 
|1-Monday
|7- Sunday
 
|I am really lost in this task because the person that is suppose to 
|teach about Veritas is really reluctant , but my boss what results. If 
|any one can help me telling was is the better way to do a backup using 
|Veritas that will be great. I also need to learn Veritas so if you have

|any page or document that can help I will appreciate it. We really need

|to make this work because in the last weeks we are having troubles with

|our server, with out explication it gets crushes. I am using Oracle 
|9.2.0.2  in a Windows Server with Windows 2000 SP3 and
|And the veritas is VERITAS NetBackup 4.5 for Windows in  a Windows
Server
|with Windows 2000 SP4
 
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Export / Import Question

2004-01-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I have a user who want to refresh only the DATA in a test database with
DATA from the production database.  He does not want to replace any
procedures, functions, triggers, etc...

My question is, if I do a full or user level export, then turn around
and do a full or user level import with IGNORE=Y (after truncating the
tables) will the procedures, functions, triggers be replaced anyway?  I
have a feeling they will.

If so, is there any way to prevent this?

Thanks!
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RE: Export / Import Question

2004-01-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
That would require effort and planning on their part.

Ron

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Ron - You may want to ask yourself what you're getting into. My
preference is that the developers be creating scripts to make their
procedure, function, trigger changes, along with detailed instructions
for installing them. I make my counteroffer that I will recover a copy
of the production database from backup from them. Then they can run
their scripts just like they or I am going to in production. On the
other hand, if you have a lot of time on your hands, the challenge of
just refreshing the data, disabling/reenabling constraints may amuse you
for an afternoon. Just kidding, sort of.

Dennis Williams
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I have a user who want to refresh only the DATA in a test database with
DATA from the production database.  He does not want to replace any
procedures, functions, triggers, etc...

My question is, if I do a full or user level export, then turn around
and do a full or user level import with IGNORE=Y (after truncating the
tables) will the procedures, functions, triggers be replaced anyway?  I
have a feeling they will.

If so, is there any way to prevent this?

Thanks!
R Smith
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Any way to syncronize sequences between database?

2004-01-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
When doing a partial data refresh, using export/import, is there any way
to synchronize Sequences between the two databases?

Thanks!
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How to refresh

2003-12-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to do a refresh of a test database using production data.  We use
import for this.  In the past we have always dropped the schemas (4 or
5), recreated the schemas, and then did a full import with ignore=n.
This time the user does not want to lose any of the new functions and
procedures that are in test, but not in prod.  Instead, they would like
to just refresh the table data.  Last time we tried this we had all
kinds of trouble with functions, triggers, constraints, etc... and ended
up doing a full import.

Is there a tried and true way to just refresh the table data without
losing anything else and without having all the problems with triggers
and constraints?

Thanks!
Ron 

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RE: How to refresh

2003-12-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Like I said.  There are new packages, procedures, functions, etc... in
TEST that we do not want to lose.

Ron

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Ron - You should consider refreshing the instance by cloning your
production database. This way you get an exact replica in all respects,
and you can test your backup as a bonus. If you are interested in this
method, tell us how you backup your production database.

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I need to do a refresh of a test database using production data.  We use
import for this.  In the past we have always dropped the schemas (4 or
5), recreated the schemas, and then did a full import with ignore=n.
This time the user does not want to lose any of the new functions and
procedures that are in test, but not in prod.  Instead, they would like
to just refresh the table data.  Last time we tried this we had all
kinds of trouble with functions, triggers, constraints, etc... and ended
up doing a full import.

Is there a tried and true way to just refresh the table data without
losing anything else and without having all the problems with triggers
and constraints?

Thanks!
Ron 

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RE: How to refresh

2003-12-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Seems like last time I tried to disable constraints Oracle complained
and wouldn't let me due to dependant objects or something.

Ron

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You can always disable triggers and constraints in existing schema
before running import (and then, enable them after import is done).
Also, specify CONSTRAINTS=N and TRIGGERS=N when exporting.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Smith, Ron L.
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I need to do a refresh of a test database using production data.  We use
import for this.  In the past we have always dropped the schemas (4 or
5), recreated the schemas, and then did a full import with ignore=n.
This time the user does not want to lose any of the new functions and
procedures that are in test, but not in prod.  Instead, they would like
to just refresh the table data.  Last time we tried this we had all
kinds of trouble with functions, triggers, constraints, etc... and ended
up doing a full import.

Is there a tried and true way to just refresh the table data without
losing anything else and without having all the problems with triggers
and constraints?

Thanks!
Ron 

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RE: How to refresh

2003-12-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thanks!  I'll try it.

Ron

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Here is a sample of the script I run to disable FK constraints:

declare lTables DBMS_SQL.VARCHAR2_TABLE;
lConstraints DBMS_SQL.VARCHAR2_TABLE;
nJ BINARY_INTEGER;
BEGIN
SELECT table_name, constraint_name
  BULK COLLECT INTO lTables, lConstraints
  FROM user_constraints
  WHERE owner = 'IPN_DBA'
AND constraint_type = 'R';
FOR nJ IN 1..lTables.COUNT LOOP
DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(lTables(nJ) || ': ' || lConstraints(nJ)); --
just for logging
EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 'ALTER TABLE ' || lTables(nJ) || ' MODIFY
CONSTRAINT ' || lConstraints(nJ) || ' DISABLE'; END LOOP; END; /

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Seems like last time I tried to disable constraints Oracle complained
and wouldn't let me due to dependant objects or something.

Ron

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You can always disable triggers and constraints in existing schema
before running import (and then, enable them after import is done).
Also, specify CONSTRAINTS=N and TRIGGERS=N when exporting.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Smith, Ron L.
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I need to do a refresh of a test database using production data.  We use
import for this.  In the past we have always dropped the schemas (4 or
5), recreated the schemas, and then did a full import with ignore=n.
This time the user does not want to lose any of the new functions and
procedures that are in test, but not in prod.  Instead, they would like
to just refresh the table data.  Last time we tried this we had all
kinds of trouble with functions, triggers, constraints, etc... and ended
up doing a full import.

Is there a tried and true way to just refresh the table data without
losing anything else and without having all the problems with triggers
and constraints?

Thanks!
Ron 

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RE: unix question

2003-11-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
The following statement will delete all files older than 5 days:

find . -name 'files_you_want_to_delete*.log' -mtime +5 -exec rm {} \;

To test it, change the name of the file name and change the 'rm' to
'ls'.
It should just list the files older than 5 days.  That way you know it
is working.

Ron Smith



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USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH
CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.

COUNT=`ls -lrt dir/name|wc -l`
if [ $COUNT -ge 4 ] ;
then
find dir -name name -mtime +4 -exec rm -f {} \;
fi


USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH
CARE.USE WITH CARE.USE WITH CARE.

HTH,
Bambi.
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I want to store some files. I make a new copy every night. I want to
archive it back 4 days. So after 4 days, I want to delete the old copy.
How do I do this? 

However, if i miss a nightly batch and have less than 4 copies, I do not
want to delete any?
 

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RE: SQL Query

2003-11-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
 extents in a tablespace don't
necessarily belong to the same datafile. Try the query without the
aggregate functions and the GROUP BY, and you'll understand your
mistake.

HTH,

SF

Bellow, Bambi wrote:
 
 Friends --
 
 Why would these two queries return different results?
 
 This query works.
 
 SQL l
   1  select

a.tablespace_name,megs_allocated,megs_used,round(megs_used/b.megs_alloca
ted,
 2)*100 pct
   2  from (select tablespace_name,sum(bytes)/(1024*1024) megs_used
   3  from dba_extents group by tablespace_name) a,
   4  (select tablespace_name,sum(bytes)/(1024*1024) megs_allocated
   5  from dba_data_files  group by tablespace_name) b
   6  where a.tablespace_name=b.tablespace_name
   7* and a.tablespace_name='NAUAT'
 SQL /
 
 TABLESPACE_NAMEMEGS_ALLOCATED  MEGS_USEDPCT
 -- -- -- --
 NAUAT22924.25  11509 50
 
 This query does not work
 
   1  select a.tablespace_name,sum(b.bytes)/(1024*1024) megs_allocated,
   2  sum(a.bytes)/(1024*1024) megs_used,
   3  round(sum(a.bytes)/sum(b.bytes),4)*100 pct
   4  from dba_extents a, dba_data_files b
   5  where a.tablespace_name=b.tablespace_name
   6  and a.tablespace_name='NAUAT'
   7* group by a.tablespace_name,b.tablespace_name
 SQL /
 
 TABLESPACE_NAMEMEGS_ALLOCATED  MEGS_USEDPCT
 -- -- -- --
 NAUAT  31773010.5  23018.07
 
 Bambi.
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Stop using SYS, SYSTEM?

2003-11-12 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We are being asked by Auditing to stop using the SYS, and SYSTEM
accounts.  They would like for us to create an Oracle Role with the same
permissions a SYS and SYSTEM, then grant the role to each of the DBA's.
Don't ask me why.  Nothing is being audited in 99% of the databases.
They just say it in a paper some where so they said we shouldn't use it.
This seems like it would cause lots of problems with exports, imports,
installs, etc...  Has anyone had to deal with this type of request?  Any
potential problems with making the change?

Thanks!
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RE: Stop using SYS, SYSTEM?

2003-11-12 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Where we work, there is one DBA responsible for each database.  Each DBA
is responsible for dozens of databases, servers, and applications.  The
only time another DBA is in one of my databases is when I am out of the
office and can't get to a phone line or network connection.  We never
use SYS but it was included in the audit so I included it in the
question.  

We still have to use SYS and SYSTEM for database creates, full exports,
imports, etc...The only thing I can see creating a dummy SYSTEM
account would do is to add one more userid and dozens of new passwords
to the database and more work for an already short handed staff.

Ron Smith

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Hi Ron,

I just starte to write an answer to agree with your auditor based on
accountability and i saw Arup's answer come through so I have deleted my
answer and just say i concur whole heartedly with Arup. I also conduct
oracle security audits and i suggest to clients not to use SYS or SYSTEM
for day to day work.

kind regards

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Valid Oracle Passwords

2003-11-10 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Can anyone tell me the requirements and characters for a valid Oracle
password.  I have looked through the Oracle 8i documentation CD and I
can't seem to find anything.

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DBA Support Database

2003-10-30 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I was thinking about putting together a database that contains a list of
DBAs, servers, databases, and applications.  The database would be used
by the Helpdesk and Management to see who is responsible for a given
application or database when problems occur.  

I thought I would check first and see if anyone has already designed
such a database and might be willing to share it.

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Database just stops

2003-10-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



I have 
an Oracle 8.1.7.0 database running on an MS2000 server. A few times a day 
the database just stops running for no reason.
There 
are no messages in the alert or trace logs. Nothing in the Event 
logs. It just stops.

When I 
restart the database it goes through crash recovery but comes up 
fine.

Anyone 
have any ideas?

Thanks!
Ron 
Smith


RE: Database just stops

2003-10-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Thanks 
for the replies. The server admin fessed up and said he had bounced the 
server a few times to do some software installs.

Thanks!
Ron

  
  -Original Message-From: Stephane 
  Paquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 
  October 14, 2003 4:10 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Database just stops
  If 
  the archive destination is full then for sure the database will stop but it 
  will not crash.
  It's 
  probably a bug, you should probably go to 8.1.7.4.
  
  Talking about database stop, I just did an audit at a client site, 
  during my spare time. 
  The 
  top3 SQL:
  The 
  first onewas run 20 times per second and has 1280 
  gets
  The 
  second one was run 14 times per minute and each executionhas 78091 
  gets
  The 
  third one was run 1 per minute and each execution has 965637 
  gets.
  
  The 
  database was really stopped !!!
  Of 
  course the application vendor wastalking about adding more hardware 
  ...
  
  Stephane
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Oracle-LSent: 
14 octobre, 2003 16:40To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Database just stops
When you mean by 
"stops" - do u mean you are not able to connect any more from sql*net ? or 
even the current sessions hang ?

Are you running this in 
archivelog mode ? Is it possible that the database is in archivelog more and 
the archiver is not running ?

Babu



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  To: Multiple recipients of list 
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  Subject: Database just stops
  
  I have an Oracle 8.1.7.0 database running on an MS2000 
  server. A few times a day the database just stops running for no 
  reason.
  There are no messages in the alert or trace logs. Nothing in 
  the Event logs. It just stops.
  
  When I restart the database it goes through crash recovery but 
  comes up fine.
  
  Anyone have any ideas?
  
  Thanks!
  Ron 
Smith


Help with a scripting problem

2003-10-08 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



I am trying to issue the following command in SQL*PLUS but it 
doesn't like the space between 'program' and 
'files'.
Can 
anyone tell me how to get around this?

echo select 'host c:\program 
files\resource kit\robocopy;' from dual;


Thanks!
Ron 
Smith


RE: Help with a scripting problem

2003-10-08 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Sorry, this is what I am trying to run.  But again, it barfs on the
'program files' portion of the script.
I have tried with and without quotes.

set heading off;
set feedback off;   
set linesize 1000;  
spool e:\BACKUP\llbot1\scripts\ARC_PLUS2.sql; 
select 'spool e:\BACKUP\llbot1\HOT\log\ARC_BACKUP.LOG2;' from dual; 
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system archive log stop;' from dual;  
select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy
f:\oracle\oradata\llbot1\archive\ e:\BACKUP\llbot1\HOT\arch /Move;' from
dual; 
select 'host mkdir f:\oracle\oradata\llbot1\archive;' from dual;
select 'alter system archive log start;' from dual; 
select 'exit;' from dual;   
spool off;  
exit;   

Thanks!
Ron

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Ron,

First of all, is echo a SQL*Plis command?

Secondly, I think this will do what you want:

select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy' from dual;

as long as what you want is to execute the robocopy program from the
SQL*Plus prompt.

If you want to do something else, clarify your intentions on the list.

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/03 04:34PM 
 I am trying to issue the following command in SQL*PLUS but it doesn't
like the space between 'program' and 'files'.  
Can anyone tell me how to get around this?
   
 echo select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy;' from dual;

 
 
Thanks!
Ron Smith 

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RE: Help with a scripting problem

2003-10-08 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Never mind.  The error was related to another problem with the script.

Thanks!
Ron

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Try using double quotes:

select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy
f:\oracle\oradata\llbot1\archive\ e:\BACKUP\llbot1\HOT\arch /Move;' from
dual;

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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Smith, Ron L.
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Sorry, this is what I am trying to run.  But again, it barfs on the
'program files' portion of the script. I have tried with and without
quotes.

set heading off;
set feedback off;   
set linesize 1000;  
spool e:\BACKUP\llbot1\scripts\ARC_PLUS2.sql; 
select 'spool e:\BACKUP\llbot1\HOT\log\ARC_BACKUP.LOG2;' from dual; 
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system switch logfile;' from dual;
select 'alter system archive log stop;' from dual;  
select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy
f:\oracle\oradata\llbot1\archive\ e:\BACKUP\llbot1\HOT\arch /Move;' from
dual; 
select 'host mkdir f:\oracle\oradata\llbot1\archive;' from dual;
select 'alter system archive log start;' from dual; 
select 'exit;' from dual;   
spool off;  
exit;   

Thanks!
Ron

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Smith, Ron L.


Ron,

First of all, is echo a SQL*Plis command?

Secondly, I think this will do what you want:

select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy' from dual;

as long as what you want is to execute the robocopy program from the
SQL*Plus prompt.

If you want to do something else, clarify your intentions on the list.

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/03 04:34PM 
 I am trying to issue the following command in SQL*PLUS but it doesn't
like the space between 'program' and 'files'.  
Can anyone tell me how to get around this?
   
 echo select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy;' from dual;

 
 
Thanks!
Ron Smith 

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RMAN Problem

2003-09-23 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I am trying to learn RMAN using the Oracle Backup  Recovery 101 book.

I keep running into the error below. 
ORA-01102 cannot mount database in EXCLUSIVE mode

This is on an NT server.  I can't see that the database is already up.
Never had this problem before.

Any ideas?

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ORA-600

2003-09-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
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This is on 
an old 7.3.4 database. I can't find the same error on Metalink. 
Anybody have any ideas what might be the cause?

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17114], [1074346728], [], [], 
[], [], [], []

Ron 
Smith


Database Cloning

2003-09-15 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Whenever we clone a database on the same server we have always had the
understanding that the original database must be down until the new
database is renamed by running the control file script.

I am going through the Oracle Recovery 101 book in an effort to
understand RMAN and one chapters in the book is cloning a database on
the same server.  I just went through the steps to create a clone of a
hot database.  I created the new database on the same server with a new
name while the original database was up and running.  I had no problems.
Was our belief that the original database had to be down, incorrect, or
was this just a restriction of older version like 7.3.4?

Thanks!
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RE: Database Cloning

2003-09-15 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thank you!  I thought I was going to have to quit drinking.  Or drink
more.
Ron

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Your belief was wrong.

Actually, the belief was correct for some versions of oracle and some
platforms.  Case in point was Oracle 7 on an HP server.  The source must
be down in order to bring up the clone and recreate the control file.

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Smith, Ron L. wrote:

 Whenever we clone a database on the same server we have always had the

 understanding that the original database must be down until the new 
 database is renamed by running the control file script.

 I am going through the Oracle Recovery 101 book in an effort to 
 understand RMAN and one chapters in the book is cloning a database on 
 the same server.  I just went through the steps to create a clone of a

 hot database.  I created the new database on the same server with a 
 new name while the original database was up and running.  I had no 
 problems. Was our belief that the original database had to be down, 
 incorrect, or was this just a restriction of older version like 7.3.4?

 Thanks!
 Ron Smith

Ron,

   When you clone a database, you start with :
1) changing db_name in the init.ora file and most paths
2) defining a new ORACLE_SID and renaming init.ora accordingly
3) starting the instance without mounting it - your init.ora file is
opened and read.

 Where do you want anything to interact (badly) with an existing
database? You have allocated some shared memory, have started a few
processes and read a file. Big deal.

Your belief was wrong.

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Oriole Software
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Oracle and Perl

2003-09-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Can anyone tell me how to pick up the $ORACLE_SID or $ORACLE_HOME from
within a Perl script?

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RE: Oracle and Perl

2003-09-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Worked Great!

Thanks!
Ron

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Hi, Ron 

my $ORA_SID = $ENV{'ORACLE_SID'}
my ORAC_HOME = $ENV{'ORACLE_HOME'}

should siffice ;)

HTH. Milen 


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Can anyone tell me how to pick up the $ORACLE_SID or $ORACLE_HOME from within a Perl 
script?

Thanks!
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RE: Oracle on Win2000

2003-09-03 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Be 
careful using Terminal Server. If you are running batch jobs, the 
variables like ORACLE_SID and ORACLE_HOME don't always get picked up correctly 
by the batch job. I have spent hours trying to debug a script run with 
Terminal Server, then switch to VNC and it works fine.

Ron 
Smith

  
  -Original Message-From: Branimir 
  Petrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 
  2003 4:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle on Win2000
  
  Windows Terminal servicesthat comes with Windows (in Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Add/Remove Windows Components, 
  then install Windows Terminal Client on admin PC). 
  Bigger hassle to install and 
  configure, but a LOT better performer than PCAnywhere or VNC (other two "usual 
  suspects" for remoting unremoteable).
  Branimir
  
  
-Original Message-From: Bala Regupathy 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: September 3, 2003 1:44 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Oracle on Win2000
First time I have got to maintainOracle 
databases on Win 2000 server.Whattools do you guys use to 
get to theserverto admin oracle databases ?

Thanks,

Bala.


ROW_ID Hint

2003-08-26 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I have a vendor application that is running slow.  I looked at the code
through a product called SQLab and found that most of the code has a
ROW_ID hint coded in it.  My understanding is that this hint will
prevent the code from using indexes even though the tables and indexes
are analyzed.  I modified the Oracle startup parameters to use optimizer
mode = FIRST_ROWS which favors indexes.  Now when I run the application
the response time is much better.  I am thinking this may be a good fix
but is there any kind of program logic I could be screwing up by using
FIRST_ROWS?

Thanks!
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Export 8.1.7 - Import 7.3.4

2003-08-15 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to export the data from an Oracle 8.1.7 database HPUX 64 and
import it back into an old 7.3.4 HPUX 32 database.  
The 7.3.4 import doesn't like the 8.1.7 export file.

Any ideas?

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Semaphore problem

2003-08-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Has anyone ever seen an error like:

ERROR: rbusy(SEMOP) (13; Permission denied)

There is no Oracle error associated with it.

Thanks!
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RE: Poor performance after moving Extempore database from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2003-08-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Can you give me starting values to try in the optimizer parameters?
Ron

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to 8.1.7


Yes it does. 8i has parameters optimizer_index_cost_adj and
optimizer_index_caching, which don't exist in 7.3. And these parameters'
default values aren't optimal.

Also, when testing your app, be sure that you're comparing oranges with
oranges, e.g. if your app uses bind variables but your sqlplus test
doesn't, the comparision is quite pointless...

Tanel.

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8.1.7


 The old and new versions were both set to CHOOSE.  Both are analyzed. 
 Are you saying 8.1.7 handles this differently?

 Thanks!
 Ron

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 RBO, CBO, the old story. If you plan to continue using 8.1.7 for a 
 While, then set the parameter OPTIMIZER_MODE to RULE. Your performance

 will be normal again and programmers will be able to override the 
 parameter By specifying any hint except /*+ RULE */. Before switching 
 to CBO, please read the article about the intelligent life in the 
 optimizer. The article itself is a good one (thanks, Tim) but reading 
 the book from JL (Jonathan
 Lewis, not Jeniffer Lopez) wouldn't hurt, either.

 --
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 8.1.7



 We recently upgraded an application (Extempore) database from Oracle 
 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  The clients say the test database, still on Oracle 
 7.3.4 is much faster than the production database, now on 8.1.7.  The 
 server is newer and faster on the production database.  The Oracle 
 init parameters are pretty much identical.

 When I access the database through SQL*PLUS or TOAD, the response is 
 instantaneous.  The app uses an ODBC connection which is also 8.1.7.  
 I have tried attaching the tables in MS Access through ODBC.  This too

 is instantaneous.

 Any ideas?

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RE: Poor performance after moving Extempore database from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2003-08-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
The old and new versions were both set to CHOOSE.  Both are analyzed.
Are you saying 8.1.7 handles this differently?

Thanks!
Ron

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RBO, CBO, the old story. If you plan to continue using 8.1.7 for a
While, then set the parameter OPTIMIZER_MODE to RULE. Your performance
will be normal again and programmers will be able to override the
parameter By specifying any hint except /*+ RULE */. Before switching to
CBO, please read the article about the intelligent life in the
optimizer. The article 
itself is a good one (thanks, Tim) but reading the book from JL
(Jonathan 
Lewis, not Jeniffer Lopez) wouldn't hurt, either.  

--
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Oracle DBA 



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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
8.1.7



We recently upgraded an application (Extempore) database from Oracle
7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  The clients say the test database, still on Oracle
7.3.4 is much faster than the production database, now on 8.1.7.  The
server is newer and faster on the production database.  The Oracle init
parameters are pretty much identical.  

When I access the database through SQL*PLUS or TOAD, the response is
instantaneous.  The app uses an ODBC connection which is also 8.1.7.  I
have tried attaching the tables in MS Access through ODBC.  This too is
instantaneous.

Any ideas?

Ron Smith
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RE: ODBC Problem with @ sign

2003-08-14 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Is 
anyone aware of a problem with the 8.1.7 Client ODBC driver handling the '@' sign?

  
  Ron 
  Smith
  



Poor performance after moving Extempore database from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2003-08-11 Thread Smith, Ron L.

We recently upgraded an application (Extempore) database from Oracle
7.3.4 to 8.1.7.  The clients say the test database, still on Oracle
7.3.4 is much faster than the production database, now on 8.1.7.  The
server is newer and faster on the production database.  The Oracle init
parameters are pretty much identical.  

When I access the database through SQL*PLUS or TOAD, the response is
instantaneous.  The app uses an ODBC connection which is also 8.1.7.  I
have tried attaching the tables in MS Access through ODBC.  This too is
instantaneous.

Any ideas?

Ron Smith
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ODBC Problem with @ sign

2003-08-09 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Is 
anyone aware of a problem with the 8.1.7 Client ODBC driver handling the '@' sign?

Ron 
Smith

  


Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thanks for all the info and various ways to handle this.  I was kinda
hoping there was a magic tables=( abc_% ) parameter for export that I
didn't know about.  I think I'll use the SQL generating SQL idea.
Sounds like the quickest way.

Thanks again!
Ron

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You've gotten several suggestions for how to move the data - let me
mention some of the caveats. We went from one big shared schema to
several smaller schemas, which is what led to issue 3 below. If that's
not what you're doing, you may not have this problem.

We've done some of this, and here are some of the issues we've run into.

1) make sure your referential integrity is maintained. If you are moving
a parent or child table, you'll have to drop and recreate any foreign
keys. export/import makes this somewhat easier than 'create as select
*', but not trivial. It's easier if you move both parents and children
in the same export set (assuming they're all being moved).

2) make sure the data doesn't change while you're moving the tables.
What we've done in some cases is open an SQLPlus window, lock the
tables, then do the export/import in a different shell.

3) make sure any code finds the correct tables. We've created private
synonyms for the tables in the new locations as an interim solution.
There is a little overhead associated with resolving synonyms while
parsing queries but it doesn't seem to be a problem for us. The down
side is that there is not much incentive for developers to point to the
correct tables, and there's no good way to keep someone from referring
to the old schema when they should be using the new schema. Some on this
list will say this is a matter of DBA discipline: at any rate it is a
matter of management discipline, and the DBA's ability to do anything
about it depends on how much control they have over introduction of new
code.

Good luck,
-Chris

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 Subject: Move selected tables
 
 
 I need to move selected tables from one schema to another
 schema within
 the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
 prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 
 1000 that I
 want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?
 
 Thanks!
 Ron
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RE: Redo Logs Problem

2003-08-01 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



This 
may have already been asked, but is it possible there is a datafile in backup 
mode even though a backup is not running?

  
  -Original Message-From: Whittle Jerome 
  Contr NCI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 
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  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Redo Logs Problem
   
  This has suddenly started from the last 1 week without any 
  changes to Database Configuration or any other system settings (as per 
  client).
  Clients 
  lie. 
  Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. 
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Message- From: Munish Bajaj 
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Hi Listers,  One of my remote Clients is facing a problem with Redo Logs. The 
Redo Logs and the Archive logs in turn have suddenly started to generate at 
an alarming Rate. This has suddenly started from the last 1 week without any 
changes to Database Configuration or any other system settings (as per 
client).
 Can anyone please help me and let me know all 
the reasons that could be responsible for this behavior. Any Help from u 
will be appreciated.
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HELP! Index Debate!

2003-07-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Please help resolve this dispute. 
We have a query that runs over 5 hours.  Sections of the query are
listed below.

The table QOH_DAY_FACT table had only on index and that was on the
TIME_ID column.  I propose adding an index with PROD_ID, WHS_ID, LOT_ID,
WHS_LOC, TIME_ID and QUALITY_ID.  My test shows the runtime was reduced
to about 1.5 hours. 

The developer said all the columns in the index except PROD_ID were
being ignored.  He says there should be six separate indexes, one for
each column before Oracle will use them.

Also, does the order of the columns in the index have to match the order
of the columns in the WHERE CLAUS or is it more important to match the
WHERE CLAUS to the data content (least number of rows first)?

I will be running more tests, but I would like some input on this if
anyone has an opinion.

Thanks!
Ron


select T1.COUNTRY_NAME c1
  , T2.PRODTN_PROC_NAME c2
  , T2.PLANT_NAME c3
  , T1.WHS_NAME c4
  , T1.WHS_CMPLX_NAME c5
  , T3.WHS_LOC_NAME c6
  , T4.GRADE_DESC c7
  , T4.PACK_DESC c8
  , T5.FULL_DT c9
  , T6.QOH_MT c10...

from DWMART.DISTRIB_FCLTY_DIM T1
  , DWMART.MFG_FCLTY_DIM T2
  , DWMART.DISTRIB_LOC_DIM T3
  , DWMART.TIME_DIM T5
  , DWMART.QUALITY_DIM T7
  , DWMART.QOH_DAY_FACT T6
  , DWMART.PROD_DIM T4 
where T6.PROD_ID=T4.PROD_ID(+)
   and T6.WHS_ID=T1.WHS_ID
   and T6.LOT_ID=T2.LOT_ID
   and T6.WHS_LOC_ID=T3.WHS_LOC_ID
   and T6.TIME_ID=T5.TIME_ID
   and T6.QUALITY_ID=T7.QUALITY_ID 
order by c9 asc
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RE: Oracle to MSSQL conversion?

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RE: HELP! Index Debate!

2003-07-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Please help resolve this dispute. 
We have a query that runs over 5 hours.  Sections of the query are
listed below.

The table QOH_DAY_FACT table had only on index and that was on the
TIME_ID column.  I propose adding an index with PROD_ID, WHS_ID, LOT_ID,
WHS_LOC, TIME_ID and QUALITY_ID.  My test shows the runtime was reduced
to about 1.5 hours. 

The developer said all the columns in the index except PROD_ID were
being ignored.  He says there should be six separate indexes, one for
each column before Oracle will use them.

Also, does the order of the columns in the index have to match the order
of the columns in the WHERE CLAUS or is it more important to match the
WHERE CLAUS to the data content (least number of rows first)?

I will be running more tests, but I would like some input on this if
anyone has an opinion.

Thanks!
Ron


select T1.COUNTRY_NAME c1
  , T2.PRODTN_PROC_NAME c2
  , T2.PLANT_NAME c3
  , T1.WHS_NAME c4
  , T1.WHS_CMPLX_NAME c5
  , T3.WHS_LOC_NAME c6
  , T4.GRADE_DESC c7
  , T4.PACK_DESC c8
  , T5.FULL_DT c9
  , T6.QOH_MT c10...

from DWMART.DISTRIB_FCLTY_DIM T1
  , DWMART.MFG_FCLTY_DIM T2
  , DWMART.DISTRIB_LOC_DIM T3
  , DWMART.TIME_DIM T5
  , DWMART.QUALITY_DIM T7
  , DWMART.QOH_DAY_FACT T6
  , DWMART.PROD_DIM T4 
where T6.PROD_ID=T4.PROD_ID(+)
   and T6.WHS_ID=T1.WHS_ID
   and T6.LOT_ID=T2.LOT_ID
   and T6.WHS_LOC_ID=T3.WHS_LOC_ID
   and T6.TIME_ID=T5.TIME_ID
   and T6.QUALITY_ID=T7.QUALITY_ID 
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RE: HELP! Index Debate!

2003-07-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



No 
answer for that. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 
  31, 2003 3:44 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: HELP! Index Debate!
  How does one know that only one column is being used in an 
  index and others are being ignored ... ?? This is new to me. 
  Raj  
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. 
  QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art 
  ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Smith, Ron L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:34 PM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  HELP! Index Debate! 
  Please help resolve this dispute. We 
  have a query that runs over 5 hours. Sections of the query are 
  listed below. 
  The table QOH_DAY_FACT table had only on index and that was on 
  the TIME_ID column. I propose adding an index 
  with PROD_ID, WHS_ID, LOT_ID, WHS_LOC, TIME_ID and 
  QUALITY_ID. My test shows the runtime was reduced to about 1.5 hours. 
  The developer said all the columns in the index except PROD_ID 
  were being ignored. He says there should be six 
  separate indexes, one for each column before Oracle 
  will use them. 
  Also, does the order of the columns in the index have to match 
  the order of the columns in the WHERE CLAUS or is it 
  more important to match the WHERE CLAUS to the data 
  content (least number of rows first)? 
  I will be running more tests, but I would like some input on 
  this if anyone has an opinion. 
  Thanks! Ron 
  select T1."COUNTRY_NAME" "c1"  , 
  T2."PRODTN_PROC_NAME" "c2"  , T2."PLANT_NAME" 
  "c3"  , T1."WHS_NAME" "c4"  , T1."WHS_CMPLX_NAME" "c5"  , 
  T3."WHS_LOC_NAME" "c6"  , T4."GRADE_DESC" 
  "c7"  , T4."PACK_DESC" "c8"  , T5."FULL_DT" "c9"  , T6."QOH_MT" 
  "c10"... 
  from "DWMART"."DISTRIB_FCLTY_DIM" T1  , "DWMART"."MFG_FCLTY_DIM" T2  , 
  "DWMART"."DISTRIB_LOC_DIM" T3  , 
  "DWMART"."TIME_DIM" T5  , "DWMART"."QUALITY_DIM" 
  T7  , "DWMART"."QOH_DAY_FACT" T6 
   , "DWMART"."PROD_DIM" T4 where 
  T6."PROD_ID"=T4."PROD_ID"(+)  and 
  T6."WHS_ID"=T1."WHS_ID"  and 
  T6."LOT_ID"=T2."LOT_ID"  and 
  T6."WHS_LOC_ID"=T3."WHS_LOC_ID"  and 
  T6."TIME_ID"=T5."TIME_ID"  and 
  T6."QUALITY_ID"=T7."QUALITY_ID" order by "c9" 
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RE: HELP! Index Debate!

2003-07-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Yes, 
the first column on each table is the column referenced in the SQL. They 
all have indexes on the first column.

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 
  31, 2003 3:59 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: HELP! Index Debate!
  do you have corresponding indexeson referenced columns on T1-5 
  tables ??
  
  Raj
   
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
  com All Views expressed in this 
  email are strictly personal. QOTD: 
  Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! 
  
-Original Message-From: Smith, Ron L. 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:49 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
HELP! Index Debate!
No 
answer for that. 

  
  -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, 
  Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 
  July 31, 2003 3:44 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: HELP! Index Debate!
  How does one know that only one column is being used in an 
  index and others are being ignored ... ?? This is new to me. 
  Raj  
  Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com 
  All Views expressed in this email are strictly 
  personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an 
  opinion is an art ! 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Smith, Ron L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:34 PM To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  HELP! Index Debate! 
  Please help resolve this dispute. We have a query that runs over 5 hours. Sections of the query 
  are listed below. 
  The table QOH_DAY_FACT table had only on index and that 
  was on the TIME_ID column. I propose adding 
  an index with PROD_ID, WHS_ID, LOT_ID, WHS_LOC, 
  TIME_ID and QUALITY_ID. My test shows the runtime was reduced 
  to about 1.5 hours. 
  The developer said all the columns in the index except 
  PROD_ID were being ignored. He says there 
  should be six separate indexes, one for each 
  column before Oracle will use them. 
  Also, does the order of the columns in the index have to 
  match the order of the columns in the WHERE CLAUS 
  or is it more important to match the WHERE CLAUS 
  to the data content (least number of rows first)? 
  I will be running more tests, but I would like some input 
  on this if anyone has an opinion. 
  Thanks! Ron 
  select T1."COUNTRY_NAME" "c1"  , T2."PRODTN_PROC_NAME" "c2"  
  , T2."PLANT_NAME" "c3"  , T1."WHS_NAME" 
  "c4"  , T1."WHS_CMPLX_NAME" "c5" 
   , T3."WHS_LOC_NAME" "c6"  , T4."GRADE_DESC" "c7"  , 
  T4."PACK_DESC" "c8"  , T5."FULL_DT" 
  "c9"  , T6."QOH_MT" "c10"... 
  from "DWMART"."DISTRIB_FCLTY_DIM" T1  , "DWMART"."MFG_FCLTY_DIM" T2  
  , "DWMART"."DISTRIB_LOC_DIM" T3  , 
  "DWMART"."TIME_DIM" T5  , 
  "DWMART"."QUALITY_DIM" T7  , 
  "DWMART"."QOH_DAY_FACT" T6  , 
  "DWMART"."PROD_DIM" T4 where 
  T6."PROD_ID"=T4."PROD_ID"(+)  and 
  T6."WHS_ID"=T1."WHS_ID"  and 
  T6."LOT_ID"=T2."LOT_ID"  and 
  T6."WHS_LOC_ID"=T3."WHS_LOC_ID"  and 
  T6."TIME_ID"=T5."TIME_ID"  and 
  T6."QUALITY_ID"=T7."QUALITY_ID" order by "c9" 
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RE: HELP! Index Debate!

2003-07-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Thank you very much for the detailed info!
Ron

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Provided we are talking cost based optimizer, then the order of the 
predicates in the where clause does not matter - except under very rare 
conditions to break a tie. Nor is the order of the predicates in the
where 
clause related to the order of the columns in the index. The only thing 
that matters is which columns of the index are present in the where
clause 
and what is their relative position in the index. It's probably best 
explained with an example:

index on c1, c2, c3, c4, ...

where clause:
c1 = ... and c2 = ...   index can be used
c2 = ... and c1 = ...   index can be used
c1 = ... and c3 = ...   index can be used, but only c1 = portion of
index 
since c2 is not in a predicate, here an index on c1, c3, c2, ... would
be 
better, then both c1= and c3= can be used.
c2 = ... and ...index can not be used (not until Oracle
9); 
but index on c2, ... could be used
c1 = ... and c2 = ... and c3  ... and c4 = index can be used, but
only 
the c1=, c2= and c3  portion since the inequality breaks the chain; an 
index on c1, c2, c4, c3 (or c2, c1, c4, c3 or c4, c1, c2, c3 etc ) could

use all predicates on the index.

as long as the leading columns are present in the where clause with an 
equal predicate, the index can be used. The first omission or non-equal 
predicate breaks the chain and only the part of the index up to that
column 
can be used.

Oracle is built around composite (or compound) indexes. Except for
bitmap 
indexes it does not easily use more than one index for the same table 
access. The optimizer is slowly learning to use more than one index, but

it's still rare.

And yes, you can determine how many and which predicates are used for
the 
index access, but you need to run a CBO trace to find out.

At 12:34 PM 7/31/2003 -0800, you wrote:

Please help resolve this dispute.
We have a query that runs over 5 hours.  Sections of the query are 
listed below.

The table QOH_DAY_FACT table had only on index and that was on the 
TIME_ID column.  I propose adding an index with PROD_ID, WHS_ID, 
LOT_ID, WHS_LOC, TIME_ID and QUALITY_ID.  My test shows the runtime was

reduced to about 1.5 hours.

The developer said all the columns in the index except PROD_ID were 
being ignored.  He says there should be six separate indexes, one for 
each column before Oracle will use them.

Also, does the order of the columns in the index have to match the 
order of the columns in the WHERE CLAUS or is it more important to 
match the WHERE CLAUS to the data content (least number of rows first)?

I will be running more tests, but I would like some input on this if 
anyone has an opinion.

Thanks!
Ron


select T1.COUNTRY_NAME c1
   , T2.PRODTN_PROC_NAME c2
   , T2.PLANT_NAME c3
   , T1.WHS_NAME c4
   , T1.WHS_CMPLX_NAME c5
   , T3.WHS_LOC_NAME c6
   , T4.GRADE_DESC c7
   , T4.PACK_DESC c8
   , T5.FULL_DT c9
   , T6.QOH_MT c10...

from DWMART.DISTRIB_FCLTY_DIM T1
   , DWMART.MFG_FCLTY_DIM T2
   , DWMART.DISTRIB_LOC_DIM T3
   , DWMART.TIME_DIM T5
   , DWMART.QUALITY_DIM T7
   , DWMART.QOH_DAY_FACT T6
   , DWMART.PROD_DIM T4
where T6.PROD_ID=T4.PROD_ID(+)
and T6.WHS_ID=T1.WHS_ID
and T6.LOT_ID=T2.LOT_ID
and T6.WHS_LOC_ID=T3.WHS_LOC_ID
and T6.TIME_ID=T5.TIME_ID
and T6.QUALITY_ID=T7.QUALITY_ID
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Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load

2003-07-28 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I asked this last week, but I have a little more info this week.

I have a table that gets programmatically loaded each night.  The table
needs to have an index added for reporting purposes.  However, when I
add the index to the table in the TEST database I start getting Snapshot
Too Old errors.  I added 25% more space to the RBS tablespace but it
didn't do any good.  I also tried reducing the frequency of commits as
suggested in Oracle papers but I still get the same error.  If I remove
the index, the load works fine.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
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RE: Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load

2003-07-28 Thread Smith, Ron L.
That's just sidestepping the problem.  I agree it is an easy fix but
there should be a way to diagnose and correct the problem.  I have done
everything suggested in the Oracle papers but nothing seems to work.
There must be something I am missing.

Thanks!
Ron

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Smith, Ron L.  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 I asked this last week, but I have a little more info this week.
 
 I have a table that gets programmatically loaded each night.  The 
 table needs to have an index added for reporting purposes.  However, 
 when I add the index to the table in the TEST database I start getting

 Snapshot Too Old errors.  I added 25% more space to the RBS tablespace

 but it didn't do any good.  I also tried reducing the frequency of 
 commits as suggested in Oracle papers but I still get the same error.

 If I remove the index, the load works fine.
 
 Any ideas?

create the index after the load?;-)  that's easily done or am i missing
something?

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RE: Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load

2003-07-28 Thread Smith, Ron L.
The index is not set up with nologging.  I can build the index after the
load with no problem.  There is no other activity in the database during
the load process.

Thanks!
Ron

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HUH??

Ron,
   Is your index set up as NOLOGGING? Could you perform the load and
then add the index without having the error? Is there any other activity
on the server at the time the load is being performed? Ron


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 12:24PM 
Try to give this index initial sufficient space so that it does not
autoextend the extents.

-ak


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 I asked this last week, but I have a little more info this week.

 I have a table that gets programmatically loaded each night.  The
table
 needs to have an index added for reporting purposes.  However, when
I
 add the index to the table in the TEST database I start getting
Snapshot
 Too Old errors.  I added 25% more space to the RBS tablespace but it 
 didn't do any good.  I also tried reducing the frequency of commits
as
 suggested in Oracle papers but I still get the same error.  If I
remove
 the index, the load works fine.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks!
 Ron Smith

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RE: RE: Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load

2003-07-28 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Yep, all at once.  All inserts I believe.

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well does the load process happen serially or are you breaking it into
pieces and doing it at once? 

by load I take it to mean

insert
update 
delete
create index. 

correct? 
 
 From: Smith, Ron L. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/07/28 Mon PM 01:24:23 EDT
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Oracle Snapshot Too Old during programatic load
 
 The index is not set up with nologging.  I can build the index after 
 the load with no problem.  There is no other activity in the database 
 during the load process.
 
 Thanks!
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:34 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 HUH??
 
 Ron,
Is your index set up as NOLOGGING? Could you perform the load and 
 then add the index without having the error? Is there any other 
 activity on the server at the time the load is being performed? Ron
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 12:24PM 
 Try to give this index initial sufficient space so that it does not 
 autoextend the extents.
 
 -ak
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:09 AM
 
 
  I asked this last week, but I have a little more info this week.
 
  I have a table that gets programmatically loaded each night.  The
 table
  needs to have an index added for reporting purposes.  However, when
 I
  add the index to the table in the TEST database I start getting
 Snapshot
  Too Old errors.  I added 25% more space to the RBS tablespace but it
  didn't do any good.  I also tried reducing the frequency of commits
 as
  suggested in Oracle papers but I still get the same error.  If I
 remove
  the index, the load works fine.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks!
  Ron Smith
 
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Update through a DBLink

2003-07-24 Thread Smith, Ron L.
One of or developers is work on a routine that will trigger a procedure
that will use a dblink to update a table on another database.  It seems
like I remember that something about a problem with procedures, dblinks,
updates?  Does anyone remember anything about that?

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Please help with ORA-01555 Snapshot too old

2003-07-22 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Help!

I have 
a production and a test database, both with 3000mg RBS tablespaces with two 
datafiles. Both have db_block_buffers set at 1000. The only 
difference is the production db has 7rollback segments and thetest 
db has 8. The rollback segments are sized at 50mg each on both 
databases.

The 
problem is, at night when the batch load is running (by itself), the load fails 
with a ORA-01555. The data is the same on both loads. Nothing else 
is going on in the database during the load.

Any 
ideas?

Ron

  
  


RE: Please help with ORA-01555 Snapshot too old

2003-07-22 Thread Smith, Ron L.
They are both processing the same data, the same way.

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Ron
I'm guessing that one of the loads receives the ORA-01555 and the
other doesn't. Does the load commit occasionally? There are some pretty
good papers on Metalink for this error.



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Help!
 
I have a production and a test database, both with 3000mg RBS
tablespaces with two datafiles.  Both have db_block_buffers set at 1000.
The only difference is the production db has 7 rollback segments and the
test db has 8.  The rollback segments are sized at 50mg each on both
databases.
 
The problem is, at night when the batch load is running (by itself), the
load fails with a ORA-01555.  The data is the same on both loads.
Nothing else is going on in the database during the load.
 
Any ideas?
 
Ron

 

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RMAN SQL Backtrack

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We have been using 
SQL Backtrack for backup and recovery forabout 6 years now. We are 
being pressured to start using RMAN because it is free. Makes sense but I 
am wondering about reliability, complexity, learning curve, 
etc...

Has anyone had 
experience with both products or anyone new to RMAN that can give me an idea of 
what to expect?

Thanks!

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RE: nt script

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Oracle 7.3.4 on Win2000

2003-06-23 Thread Smith, Ron L.
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I need 
to load SQL Loader 7.3.4 on a Win2000 server. All I have is ORacle 7.3.4 
for NT. Does anyone know if it will load and run ok without messing up 
something?
Is 
there a CD for 7.3.4 on Win2000?

Thanks!

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Read SQL Server from Oracle

2003-06-19 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to be able to read SQL Server tables from an Oracle procedure.
Can anyone point me in the right direction for info?

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Retreiving data from SQL Server

2003-06-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Can anyone give me an example of an SQL statement that will retrieve data
from SQL Server.
What is the best way to do this?

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Export Long Dies with no error

2003-05-30 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I am running an Oracle 8.1.7 export on a 2G table which contains a Long
column.  The export runs for several hours and then just dies with no error
anywhere.  I tried to use direct=y but I get an error about character sets.
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RE: another chance for 9i CDs - Beware!

2003-04-03 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I purchased this CD-ROM last week and I must say the quality of the copy is
very poor.  The graphics are poor and the sound is so low you can hardly
hear it.  I emailed them about the quality but they did not bother to reply.
Just thought I would let you all know.

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Hello,

Because of strong demand from our customere, we've had more Oracle9i
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Query through database link gets lost

2003-04-02 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I have a monitoring script that polls and monitors all the databases through
a database link.  If someone happens to shutdown or delete a database, the
SQL connection through the database link just seems to hang forever and
screws everything up.  Can someone tell me how to set a time limit on the
calling server so the connection will time out?  I already have 
SQLNET.EXPIRE_TIME = 60 set in the sqlnet.ora but it doesn't appear to help.

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Import data only into existing schema

2003-03-12 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to be able to refresh the data in the tables belonging to out test
database without destroying, changing, or adding any other type of database
object.  The data will come from the production database.  I am having a
problem specifically with triggers.  I don't want to add, change or delete
any of the triggers in the test environment.  If I do an import with the
fromuser option it imports the triggers.  This also happens with the tables
option of import.

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Disable / enable constraints

2003-03-11 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I need to truncate and import data into several schemas.  The tables have
lots of constraints.  I can produce a script to disable and enable the
contriants but I would like to know more about the constraint_type field in
dba_constraints and what are all the SYS_ contraints?  Should I disable all
constraints for a schema before the import or only certain types?

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RE: shared tnsnames.ora

2003-02-27 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Below is the end of my own tnsnames.ora located on my PC.  There is a common
network tnsnames.ora on a network share located on my 'R' drive.  The
network version has all the permanent databases defined in it.  I can add
any temporary or new test servers to my copy of tnsnames.ora and still get
to all the permanent entries when ever I need to.  Works great!

R. Smith

test.world =
  (DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS_LIST =
(ADDRESS =
  (PROTOCOL = TCP)
  (Host = someserver)
  (Port = 1521)
)
)
(CONNECT_DATA = (SID=test)
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ifile=r:\tnsnames.ora

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Use Oracle Names.  Easy to setup/maintain.  never touch a client config
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I am looking for info on how you support a large number of PCs (200+) and
keep each ones tnsnames.ora file in sync.  It seems that most people do not
touch them.  Some try to modify them and when new databases are created, the
tnsnames.ora files must be changes as well.  It seems to be
that a shared tnsnames.ora file on a network drive may work.   I remember a
thread awhile back about
the order of resolution (home directory, then OH/network/admin .).
Again, I am asking about
people using the Oracle client to connect to 15+ databases (v7.3.4 - 9.0.x)
on 10+ different
servers.   I have just started to think about this and posted here before I
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RE: Skill Sets - This may be a dumb question

2003-02-25 Thread Smith, Ron L.
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We are 
told pretty often by management that DBA's are 'dime a dozen' and we need to be 
more than 'just DBA's' to keep our jobs. On the other hand we are hiring 
contractors that know Peoplesoft Adminand paying them big bucks. 
Same with Data Warehouse people. They are in demand. I am afraid 
repetative technical skills are on their way to being farmed out to outside 
contract companies that just 'keep the lights on'. You may be better off 
in the new position.

  
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  Lisa,
  Do you like the job? Do you think it has a 
  future? Will it give you time with your husband and new baby? If 
  you answer yes to 3, than it's a good job. Don't worry about your skill 
  sets, if you are flexable that will count for alot.
  Ruth
  
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Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:34 
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Subject: Skill Sets - This may be a 
dumb question

Hello everyone, 
Well I've been "reassigned". I was 
responsible for the completely messed up Peoplesoft Oracle/AIX environment 
but management here decided that it was more important to separate a husband 
and wife that both work in the same department, and assigned one of them to 
be primary support in this environment instead of me. (sshh: The 
new person who is primary doesn't know a thing about Unix.) My primary 
job is now suppossed to be data modeling and data warehouse/mart design, 
moving on into Problematica (er, Informatica) development into a Sql Server 
database. I will not be the admin on the Sql Server database. My 
new boss referred to this as "database architecture". ?? 
What? They have already decided what they want done and just want 
someone to take the pretty pictures and implement them with unrealistic 
deadlines.
The main reason why I am upset is because it 
seems to me that data modeling is such a "soft" skill. I am concerned 
about keeping my skills up to date and keeping my hands in an Oracle 
environment, whether it's a mess or not. Seems to me that data 
modeling alone isn't something that can land you a new job or really spiff 
up your resume. I think that having a finite list of skills (Oracle, 
Unix, Windows 2000, Erwin, Project, crap like that) is more what employers 
search for, and is what HR depts can easily deal with. 
Am I wrong? This job pays well and working 
for a huge company has it's benefits, if you can deal with the bureaucracy 
similar to what is described in the 1st paragraph. And I know in this 
market I am just lucky to have a job. 
And please tell me if I'm whining. I may 
just need a KITA. Who knows anymore... 
Lisa Koivu Oracle Drink Beer Again Fairfield 
Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek 
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8.1.7 Instance not creating an SGADEF file

2003-02-18 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I have an 8.1.7 Oracle instance on a server that does not create an SGADEF
file when it is started up.  There are no errors in the log or trace files.
As a result of this file not being created, I cannot connect to the database
from a remote client.  I get an error that says the instance is not running.
I can connect to the instance from SVRMGRL on while logged onto the server.
Any ideas why the file would not get created?

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RE: common listener

2003-02-10 Thread Smith, Ron L.
How about just a 'Reload' insead of stop and start?  Much faster.

Ron Smith

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Srinivas
   Stopping the listener does not affect existing connections, but only
users that are trying to connect. Therefore you can modify the listener.ora
file, then stop and start the listener without affecting your users. I would
recommend that you avoid doing this when a lot of your users are logging in,
like the first thing in the morning.

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Hi DBA's

I have a common listener setup for 4 database on a
server. 

i.e. listener.ora is listening to 4 different
databases on the server (port numbers are different
for each DB).

is there a way to stop services for only 1 database (I
mean if I stop listener, it stops connections for all
databases)

Thnaks in advance,
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RE: Help with a truncate command in a procedure

2003-02-07 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Thanks 
for the help!

Ron

  
  -Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 
  2003 5:49 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Help with a truncate command in a 
  procedure
  (pant pant) Will I be the first to say 
  that you need to use dynamic SQL? dbms_sql package in 
  Oracle version  8.1 execute immediate in Oracle 
  version = 8.1 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Smith, Ron L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  I am not a coder but I received this from one of our 
  developers. I can't find anything about this anywhere. Can someone 
  tell me how to make the truncate work?
  Thanks! R.Smith In a DB procedure, I wanted to include the following SQL: 
  BEGIN TRUNCATE TABLE 
  LOT837_GLOBAL_TBL_KMG; END; Error messages: PLS-00103: Encountered the 
  symbol "TABLE" when expecting one of the following:  := . ( @ % ; The symbol ":= was inserted 
  before "TABLE" to continue. (It does not like it, if 
  you take out TABLE, either.) So, I had to settle for 
  the following SQL: BEGIN DELETE LOT837_GLOBAL_TBL_KMG; END; 
  Do you know why I can not use the TRUNCATE command? 
  

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Help with a truncate command in a procedure

2003-02-06 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Help with a truncate command in a procedure





I am not a coder but I received this from one of our developers. I can't find anything about this anywhere. Can someone tell me how to make the truncate work?

Thanks!


R.Smith


In a DB procedure, I wanted to include the following SQL:
BEGIN
TRUNCATE TABLE LOT837_GLOBAL_TBL_KMG;
END;


Error messages:
PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol TABLE when expecting one of the following:
 := . ( @ % ;
The symbol := was inserted before TABLE to continue.
(It does not like it, if you take out TABLE, either.)


So, I had to settle for the following SQL:


BEGIN
DELETE LOT837_GLOBAL_TBL_KMG;
END;


Do you know why I can not use the TRUNCATE command?


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SQL*NET timeout with database link

2003-02-05 Thread Smith, Ron L.
If I try to connect to a database from server a to server b using sqlplus
and a database link and that database does not exist the connection attempt
seems to hang.  Is there a way to set the timeout so it will not hang?

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SQLPLUS Timeout

2003-02-04 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I am doing queries to other servers / databases through a database link.  If
the database is down sqlplus sometime hangs for a period of time.  Can I set
a timeout on my query to prevent this?

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Check for all numeric in a column

2003-01-31 Thread Smith, Ron L.
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What is the easiest 
/ best way to check for a valid numeric value in a column?

R. 
Smith

  
  

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RMAN or SQLBacktrack?

2003-01-28 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We have been using SQLBacktrack to backup our databases on Unix and NT for
several years.  We have been VERY please with the product.  We have a
mixture of Oracle 8.1.7 and 7.3.4 databases.  We are being pushed to use
RMAN because it is free.  Does anyone have any experience with both and be
willing to share their experiences?

Thanks!

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Strange processes showing up

2003-01-27 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I just notice these ora_ixxx_sid processes on my server.  Does anyone have
an idea what they are?  They didn't used to be there.

  oracle 18249 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i106_cdwprd
  oracle 10664 1  0 15:36:38 ?0:00 ora_snp3_cdwprd
  oracle 10650 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_ckpt_cdwprd
  oracle 10786 10783  1 15:37:14 ?1:01 oraclecdwprd
(DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=beq))
)
  oracle 18243 1  0 16:07:34 ?0:00 ora_i103_cdwprd
  oracle 10646 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_dbw0_cdwprd
  oracle 18267 1  0 16:07:36 ?0:00 ora_i10e_cdwprd
  oracle 18265 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i10d_cdwprd
  oracle 18255 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i108_cdwprd
  oracle 10648 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:01 ora_lgwr_cdwprd
  oracle 18251 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i107_cdwprd
  oracle 10656 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_reco_cdwprd
  oracle 10662 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_snp2_cdwprd
  oracle 18271 1  0 16:07:36 ?0:00 ora_i10g_cdwprd
  oracle 18269 1  0 16:07:36 ?0:00 ora_i10f_cdwprd
  oracle 18263 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i10c_cdwprd
  oracle 14655 1 20 15:53:45 ?6:54 oraclecdwprd
(DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=no)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=BEQ)))
  oracle 18241 1  0 16:07:34 ?0:00 ora_i102_cdwprd
  oracle 10658 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_snp0_cdwprd
  oracle 18247 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i105_cdwprd
  oracle 22069 22016  0 16:23:29 pts/50:00 grep cdwprd
  oracle 18261 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i10b_cdwprd
  oracle 10642 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_pmon_cdwprd
  oracle 10654 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_smon_cdwprd
  oracle 10660 1  0 15:36:37 ?0:00 ora_snp1_cdwprd
  oracle 18245 1  0 16:07:34 ?0:00 ora_i104_cdwprd
  oracle 18321 1  0 16:07:44 ?0:02 oraclecdwprd
(DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=no)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=BEQ)))
  oracle 18259 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i10a_cdwprd
  oracle 18257 1  0 16:07:35 ?0:00 ora_i109_cdwprd
  oracle 10683 1  0 15:36:42 ?0:03 ora_i201_cdwprd
  oracle 18237 1  0 16:07:34 ?0:00 ora_i101_cdwprd


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Oracle Financials - Help!

2003-01-22 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Is there a forum for Oracle Financials questions?  I am doing backup support
on Oracle Financials and I don't know anything about the product.  The /tmp
file on Unix has filled with a couple of very large temp files.  I need a
way to tie the files back to a process and hopefully a client.  Can anyone
help?

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RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I would do all three.  A good backup stategy is only good if you read all
your data all the time.  You can have corrupt data that doesn't get read and
doesn't cause a problem for weeks, month, years.  By that time you have no
backup that does not contain corrupt data.  Export to a null file to speed
things up a little, just keep the log file.  DBVerify is very useful.

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I am considering the appropriate way to do database
corruption prevention.

Should I use  one or more of the following as a
proactive measure ?
  a) Export  
  b) DBVerify  
  c) Analyze table table_name validate structure
cascade

Any advice ?

Thanks,

PH


Pui Ho,

   The only way you can be 'proactive' concerning corruption is to have a
sound backup strategy - if you really feel nervous about your hardware,
first change it, and then use archive logging and the rest; export is a bad
solution, because it will be long to restore. By definition, a corruption
doesn't give any warning (it's even worth than earthquakes). If you want to
be very reactive, set something to regularly scan your alert.log file.

Regards,

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RE: Database Verification

2003-01-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We had a corrupt index block which caused an ORA-600 which was not noticed
and eventually brought down the database.
We do lots of checks now.  (d) All of the above.

R. Smith

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(d) All of the above

i) Export to /dev/null will go through all the fields of all the tables, all
the rows, but will not scan indexes
ii) Dbverify will scan for block corruptions but not logical corruptions.
iii) Analyze will check for table-index logical corruption.

Practically, you could just do an export to /dev/null and make sure the
table data is correct. Index can be rebuilt, so it's not as important.

HTH.

Arup

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 Should I use  one or more of the following as a proactive measure ?
   a) Export
   b) DBVerify
   c) Analyze table table_name validate structure cascade

 Any advice ?

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RE: Unix Max Extent Script

2003-01-16 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Title: Message



Here 
is what we run. It is part of a group of scripts we run every 15 minutes 
that monitor all the databases. The script will either send a page or an 
email, depending on how it is called.

The command to run 
the script (cron every 15 minutes):
nextext.sh prod zrls1  /dev/null 21

The nextext.sh Unix 
script:

#! 
/bin/sh -x# DBA 
MONITORING SCRIPTS# 
**## 
Author: Ron 
Smith# 
Date: 
06/18/98# 
Funtion: Checks for objects that 
cannot allocate 
next# 
extent.## 
**## 
CHANGE HISTORY## 
DATE 
WHO 
Reason for Change

# 06/18/98 Ron 
Smith New Prog

## 
**## 
FUNCTION

## This script calls 
nextext.sql.# The function of this script is to 
report database objects that# cannot allocate the 
next extent in the tablespace.# If an object is 
found that cannot be extended, an error file# is 
created and a page is sent to the DBA.## If an 
error file already exists, the script exits without 
any# action. The DBA should delete the error 
file when the problem# is resolved. Another 
script should be scheduled to run daily# to delete 
the error file so the DBA is paged at least once a# 
day if the condition continues.## If the id of 
the DBA is a Zid, a page will be sent. If the# 
id of the DBA is an email address (determined by looking 
for# an "@" ) , an EMAIL will be sent.## 
**## 
PREREQUISITES## The OPS$ORACLE user must exist 
in the instance. This can be# created by 
running the opsuer.sql script in SQLPLUS while# 
logged on as SYSTEM.## The cdmonitoring script 
must exist in the home/oracle# directory.## 
**## 
RUN SYNTAX## nextext.sh (sid) (oncall 
dba)### 
**

# cd 
to the monitoring script directory. 
$HOME/cdmonitoring.sh

ORACLE_SID=$1export ORACLE_SIDDBA=$2export DBAATCNT=`echo 
$DBA | grep @ | wc -l`export ATCNTEMAIL=$3export 
EMAIL

ORACLE_HOME=`grep "^$ORACLE_SID:" /etc/oratab | head -1 | cut -d: 
-f2`export 
ORACLE_HOMEPATH=$ORACLE_HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH:.export 
PATH

# 
Delete the old list file if it exists

if [ 
-f nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst ] then 
rm nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lstfi

# 
Check to see if an error file exists. If it does get 
out.

if [ 
-f nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err ]then echo 'Error file nextext_'$ORACLE_SID'.err 
exists - will exit now' 
exitfi

# If 
sending to EMAIL address, run sql with headings on

if [ 
"$ATCNT" -gt "0" ] 
then sqlplus / @nextext.sql 
on 
else sqlplus / @nextext.sql 
offfi

# If 
there is anything in the lst file then send a message

if [ 
-s nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst ] then 
echo "-DBA- Cannot Alloc Next Ext "  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err echo 
"SID=" $ORACLE_SID " "  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err cat 
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err if [ 
"$ATCNT" -gt "0" 
] 
then 
echo "email 
sent" 
elm -s "-DBA- Warning! $ORACLE_SID Next Extent Warning" $DBA  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err 
else 
LC=`cat nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst | sed -e 's/ */ /g' | wc 
-c` 
echo 
$LC 
if [ "$LC" -gt "160" 
] 
then echo "Too many errors to send. Check nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst"  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err 
else 
cat nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst  
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err 
fi 
echo "page 
sent" 
pager $DBA "`cat 
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.err`" 
fifi


The nextext.sql 
script:

set 
linesize 80set feedback offset verify onset heading 1column 
owner format a10column tablespace_name format a15column table_name 
format a15column index_name format a15column next_extent format 
999,999,990column ord_col noprint

spool 
nextext_$ORACLE_SID.lst

select 
/*+ RULE */owner, tablespace_name, table_name, 1 ord_col,'' index_name, 
next_extent/1024 next_extentfrom all_tables atwhere owner like 
upper('%') and next_extent  (select max(a.bytes) 
largest 
from dba_free_space 
a 
where a.tablespace_name = 
at.tablespace_name 
)unionselect /*+ RULE */owner, tablespace_name, table_name, 2 
ord_col, index_name, next_extent/1024 next_extentfrom all_indexes 
aiwhere owner like upper('%') and next_extent  ( select 
max(a.bytes) 
largest 
from dba_free_space 
a 
where a.tablespace_name = 
ai.tablespace_name 
)order by 1,2/spool offexit


That's it! 
Works Great!
R.Smith
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RE: Faking an ORA-600

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datafile.  Then use the index in a query.  We had a corrupt index that
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Ball, Terry wrote:
 
 We are trying to test out monitoring software (on a test database at 
 8.1.6.3).  We have been able to generate most of the errors that we 
 want to monitor for, but have been unable to generate an ORA-600.  
 Does anyone have a way of doing this?
 
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Terry,

  Depends on how you do it. If it's by checking the alert log file, I
presume that something such as
   execute sys.dbms_system.kdswrt(3, 'Errors in file blablah.trc:')
   execute sys.dbms_system.kdswrt(3, 'ORA-00600: internal error code,
arguments: [], [FAKED], [], [], []')

  should look alarming enough.

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Where's that last archive log?

2002-12-18 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We do disaster recovery tests from time to time with a limited set of
backups.  We make an educated quess as to the time to recover but it doesn't
always work.  If I give Oracle a point in time to recover and then run out
of archive logs how do I tell Oracle that that's all I have and recover with
what is available?  I have tried recover until cancel but Oracle always
seems to need another archive log.  It usually says the System file needs to
be recovered.  If I have all the archive logs it works fine.

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Any way to script or document jobs defined to the NT/MS2000 Task

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We have started using the NT/MS2000 Task Scheduler instead of the 'AT'
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I am concerned that if we lose the server we would lose the schedule and
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When all the batch jobs were scheduled.

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2002-12-05 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Do you map the other computers Scheduled Task drive to make the copy?  I
tried just copy and past between two sessions and it didn't like that.

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Ron,

Saw your memo and fooled around with Task Scheduler a bit.  All it is is
Windows Explorer pointed at the Scheduled Tasks folder in Control Panel.

To back up your Scheduled Tasks, simply single click on one or more of them
(or use the Edit / Select All menu item, then de-select Add Scheduled Task),
then choose the Edit / Copy To Folder menu item.  A single *.job file is
created for each Scheduled Task in the target folder.  You can then copy
those files into another Server's or PC's Scheduled Tasks folder in Control
Panel.  Those copied-in Scheduled Tasks then appear in the target's Task
Scheduler with all their info.

Glad you brought this up, since we have a Win2k server with LOTS of
Scheduled Tasks.  Now I know how to back them up.  I just now followed the
above procedure and now have all the Scheduled Tasks from that server in my
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Oracle 7.3.4 on MS2000

2002-11-20 Thread Smith, Ron L.
I am trying to install Oracle 7.3.4 on a MS2000 machine.  I need the loader
utilities to run against an old instance of Oracle Financials.  I am getting
a obackup.vrf OS_ERROR.  I have done this before and I did not get the
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Batch SQLPLUS on Win 2000

2002-11-13 Thread Smith, Ron L.
We recently upgraded our Oracle server from NT to 2000.  I have a batch
script that runs SQLPLUS that no longer works.
Like a good DBA I always included ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_SID set command in
each script.  Now the script woll only run if I remove the ORACLE_HOME and
ORACLE_SID set commands.  There is only one sid on this server right now but
that could change any time.  Can anyone tell me what changed with Win 2000
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Record count within a procedure

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Within an update or load procedure, is there any way to return the
transaction count for the number 
of rows affected?  Kind of like the Feedback / NoFeedback option of
SQL*PLUS?

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RE: RE: RE: Backups

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RE: RE: RE: Backups

2002-10-03 Thread Smith, Ron L.

You must be using an old version.  Been there done that.  Works!

Ron

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Unless:

You do a point in time recovery, find out you were
given the wrong time, and try  to do it again.

Not so simple, can't be done from the SQL*Bactrack menu.

Jared






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SQL Backtrack and Netbackup! No manual tracking.  Restores couldn't be
simpler.

R. Smith

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Richard,

Distateful is being nice.  Try down right horrifying is a more
appriopriate
description.  Been There, Done that, now have three Unix SA's who handle 
it.

Life is so grand!!

Dick Goulet

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Yes I personally run Veritas Netbackup for both cold and RMAN.  A fiber
SAN has its added benefits as well =).  I have never really explored the
implications of these other utilities.  My head filled with many
distasteful visuals. Yes, I agree with you and I realize that I am
spoiled knocking on wood.

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I've used cpio, dd, and fbackup to do hot and cold backups before, but 
never
again.  With those utilities the burden of keeping track of what is on 
which
tape rests with you and normally a stubby pencil  pad of paper because 
you
know
what won't be available when you need to do a recovery.  They do work be
assured, but the administrative overhead is just not worth it anymore, 
even
for
a small shop.  Get a copy of Veritas or OmniBack or some other software
package
that does library management for you and preferably integrates with RMAN.
Life
can be so much easier!!

Dick Goulet

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It would be interesting to see how you would explain how either
cp or dd (which know nothing of archive log mode, or the concept
of hot backup, itself, none the less) is going to keep things
consistent, when these utilities themselves are for point in 
time operations.



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This doesn't sound right.  Put the database in hot backup mode,
backup (whether using cp to a staging point like the poster here
is doing or straight to tape using dd or dump or some other utility),
come out of hot backup mode.  Why wouldn't you be able to recover? 

John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
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If you want to be able to use any OS backup for restore/recovery that
database must be closed when you do the backup.  If it is not, you won't 
be
able to recover.

Just a thot,
Ruth

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Robyn,
 We used the DD method on pre 7.1 oracle with RAW devices. It worked
fine except that it  used a lot of tape dumping a raw device when only a
small portion was used. Using a dd command to place a copy of the data
on tape should not be a problem if a restoral is needed. The dd function
is just another OS method of copying data to a tape. I don't know for
sure but I think there might be some issues about transportability of
the dd tape.
Other users will know about the transportability issues.
Ron
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Hello,

I need some info about backups.  I am working on a customer site, and
have implemented both exports and hot backups.  Both jobs copy to a
separate mount point, and a job scripted by another individual then
moves the files to tape.

Here's the problem - he's using a dd command, primarily because it
provides a succinct output he can email to non-technicals.  The file
system is built on a 12 disk A1000 array.  We've provided him with a
ufsdump script, but he's doesn't want to use it. Can the system be
recovered from this tape?  Has anyone ever relied on a dd for a daily
backup method? The system is Oracle 9i on Solaris 8.

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RE: SQL Backtrack Reports

2002-10-02 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Yes, I am looking for something that reports sid start stop for every backup
recorded either in the log file
or in the oracatalog.

Ron

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Do you want to parse the log file and only report the
backup start and stop times?  If so, that's a really
tall order.

What we do is run SQL Backtrack from a shell script
that reports start and stop time and emails
success/failure for each instance.


--- Smith, Ron L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If anyone out there is using SQL Backtrack to backup
 Oracle I am looking for
 a home grown reporting
 script that will give me start and stop times for
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RE: Performance monitoring

2002-10-02 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Right On!

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The ten most important performance items to monitor are your ten most
important business transactions.  Period, end of story.

If you want to provide an intelligent response, monitor how long they take
and provide a weekly report, noting any changes.

Ratios and wait events are just diagnostic tools -- when business
transactions become slow you use them to find where the problem is.

Anyone who asks you to monitor ten internal things, such as ratios or wait
events, and no more than just ten because they only want the ten most
important, is simply uneducated and unexperienced, since these things are of
no importantance if the system is running fast enough for the users, and
besides there are way more than ten important things like this.  However,
they may also be very smart, since a good manager may be wise to start by
getting a handle on the ten most important things.

Probably, you want to be taking statspack snapshots every hour just to have
a baseline, so just DO THAT and give the statspack report to the manager
once a week -- and make them happy by picking out ten items you consider
important and running a yellow highlighter over them.  Have a cover page
that compares the current value of the ten items with the same items four
weeks ago -- so you are monitoring them.  That's fast, easy and smart, it
makes your manager happy and you'll have your eye on the ball too.

But don't forget that the most important thing to monitor is reality.  Your
coolest move is to have the manager pull the users into a meeting and get
them to identify the ten business transactions that are most important to
them.  Find out if any are too slow.  Find out if anything is too slow.
Monitor that.  Tune that.

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SQL Backtrack Reports

2002-10-01 Thread Smith, Ron L.

If anyone out there is using SQL Backtrack to backup Oracle I am looking for
a home grown reporting
script that will give me start and stop times for all the backups on the log
file.

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RE: quckways to find block corruption

2002-09-23 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Beware, we had a corrupt block in an index.  Big deal you say!?  Every time
the client used the index
the database would crash!  Not good.  We now do exports, and dbverify.  But
they don't catch bad index
blocks.  We also learned to check the alertlog a couple of times a day.

R. Smith

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FWIW  I like to do full exports in the middle of the night
just for this reason as a hot backup wont cut it.
If you find a corrupt block you can fix it using
either a PL/SQL or PRO*C rountine that can be
found on Metalink.  
Search for corrupt blocks.

Mike
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Hello all,

DB: 8i
OS: solaris 2.7

can somebody post me reply for this.

is there any quick way to find which datablocks are
corrupted in my oracle database .

( other than dbverify and rman backup. )

b'coz we have BCV backup already implemented and we
cannot do a dbv every week for 500 gig production
database .

thanks in advance,
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Estat Bstat

2002-09-18 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I am trying to run utlbstat and utlestat for the first time.  The output is
not formatted very well.  Does anyone
have a cleaner version?

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FW: Problem upgrading Oracle 8.1.7 on MS2000

2002-09-11 Thread Smith, Ron L.


I am trying to upgrade Oracle 8.1.7 on MS2000 to patchset 8.1.7.4.1.  I keep
getting a message that says a component
that the installer needs to update is busy.  It would be too easy to tell me
what it is.  I have stopped everything
related to Oracle but I still get the message.  Can anyone tell me what else
I should stop?  Is there a log file
that tells me what it is trying to do?

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Problem upgrading Oracle 8.1.7 on MS2000

2002-09-10 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I am trying to upgrade Oracle 8.1.7 on MS2000 to patchset 8.1.7.4.1.  I keep
getting a message that says a component
that the installer needs to update is busy.  It would be too easy to tell me
what it is.  I have stopped everything
related to Oracle but I still get the message.  Can anyone tell me what else
I should stop?  Is there a log file
that tells me what it is trying to do?

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RE: RE: Pls respond...: URGENT

2002-09-03 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Is it possible there is a full analyze running on the database?  You said
you did
a reorg this weekend.  If you bounced it 4 times it could be going through
backout
and recovery.  Either one would keep it pretty busy.

R. Smith

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My database okay, its slow, I can't do much work, too much waitingI want

to bring as normal processing...

From: Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Pls respond...: URGENT
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:58:02 -0600

Peter,
   What is the problem? What you are asking is not clear, which could
be one reason you are not getting a response. Try restating the issue with
exactly what the condition of the db is (up or down), what errors are being
reported, etc.

Dan Fink

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Subject: Pls respond...: URGENT



 
 Hi Friends,
 
 My all background processors accessing same file system, I did some reorg
 this weekend, But I shut down database like 4 times...all processors are
 waitingAny help will be highly appreicated!!!
 
 
 oracle@baan1 $ ps -ef|grep 14816
   oracle 14816 1   2 13:59:00  -  0:49 ora_dbwr_baanIV
   oracle 80572 18974   2 14:27:27  pts/1  0:00 grep 14816
 oracle@baan1 $ ps -ef|grep 15336
   oracle 15336 1   0 13:59:00  -  0:12 ora_lgwr_baanIV
   oracle 83158 18974   2 14:27:55  pts/1  0:00 grep 15336
 oracle@baan1 $ ps -ef|grep 17644
   oracle 17644 1   0 13:59:00  -  0:16 ora_smon_baanIV
   oracle 85890 18974   2 14:28:21  pts/1  0:00 grep 17644
 oracle@baan1 $ ps -ef|grep 18164
   oracle 18164 1   0 13:59:00  -  0:03 ora_db01_baanIV
   oracle 84380 18974   1 14:28:44  pts/1  0:00 grep 18164
 
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 peter.
 
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Pro*C error after install

2002-08-22 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I am getting the following error after installing Pro*C on an existing 8.1.7
instance.  Can anyone help?
 
 

 mailto:oracle@cdwtst oracle@cdwtst: make -f demo_proc.mk sample1
/usr/ccs/bin/make -f
/u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/precomp/demo/proc/demo_proc.mk OBJS=sample1.o
EXE=sample1 build
cc  -xO2  -Xa  -xstrconst -xF  -mr  -xarch=v8 -xcache=16/32/1:1024/64/1
-xchip=ultra -D_REENTRANT -K PIC -DPRECOMP  -I. -I/u
001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/precomp/public
-I/u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/rdbms/public
-I/u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/r
dbms/demo -I/u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/plsql/public
-I/u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/network/public -DSLMXMX_ENABLE -DSL
TS_ENABLE -D_SVID_GETTOD-c sample1.c
/usr/ucb/cc:  language optional software package not installed
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `sample1.o'
Current working directory /u001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/precomp/demo/proc
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `sample1' 
 
 
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Install Pro*C

2002-08-21 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Someone forgot to install Pro*C on our 8.1.7 Sun server.  I need to install
it.
Is there anything that needs to be done after I run the installer?

Thanks!
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RE: It took more than an hour to update 10,000 records

2002-08-13 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I was wondering how many rows are in the table being updated?  Do you have
an index on the columns in
the where clause?  Could be doing a full table scan to find all the rows.
Also, if there a lot of
indexes on the table it could add a lot of time to the update.

Ron S.

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Hmm... are there any triggers on the table that fire?

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Do you have a unique index on nxx_id, npa_id, and lata_id?

Waleed

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Hi all,

I write a script to update 10,000 records in my database and noticed it took
more than an hour to update 10,000 records.  The script just includes 10,000
SQL update commands as shown below.  Is the time too long to update 10,000
records?  Is it a way to improve the update task to run faster.  Please
advise.

*** A portion of my update script is shown below:

update dbimpl.npa_nxx set ported_flag = 1 where nxx_id = 206 and npa_id =
201 and lata_id = 224;

update dbimpl.npa_nxx set ported_flag = 1 where nxx_id = 207 and npa_id =
201 and lata_id = 224;


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David
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RE: SAN

2002-08-13 Thread Smith, Ron L.
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What Oracle versions are supported on MS2000?

2002-08-12 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Can anyone tell me what Oracle versions are supported on MS2000?  

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ORA-04021: timeout occurred while waiting to lock object

2002-07-30 Thread Smith, Ron L.


I have a developer using SQLNavigator and getting the following error while
trying to recompile some code.
ORA-04021: timeout occurred while waiting to lock object.  This developer is
the only one in the database.
The database has been 'bounced' to clear all locks but the error still
occurs.

Any ideas?

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RE: ORA-04021: timeout occurred while waiting to lock object

2002-07-30 Thread Smith, Ron L.

The developer has the object opened for update in SQLNqvigator.  When he
tries to compile and save it,
he gets the error.  

Ron

 

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Ron,

When exactly this happens?
Could be running pl/sql procedure and trying do something with itself or
with calling procedure (like grant execute, for example)

Alexandre
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 I have a developer using SQLNavigator and getting the following error
while
 trying to recompile some code.
 ORA-04021: timeout occurred while waiting to lock object.  This developer
is
 the only one in the database.
 The database has been 'bounced' to clear all locks but the error still
 occurs.

 Any ideas?

 Ron Smith
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