Bad object ids in x$bh?

2003-12-01 Thread Steve Rospo

Anybody know what the blocks in x$bh are that don't map to rows in
DBA_OBJECTS?  I have 172 objects in x$bh that I can't account for.

SQL  SELECT count(obj), count(object_id)
  2  FROM (SELECT DISTINCT bh.obj, ob.object_id
  3FROM sys.x_$bh bh,
  4 dba_objects ob
  5WHERE bh.obj = ob.object_id(+));

COUNT(OBJ) COUNT(OBJECT_ID)
-- 
  2243 2071



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RE: DBA needed in Austin, TX

2003-09-25 Thread Steve Rospo

Did you leave off a :-)?  I remember plenty of 100% (or at least high
90s') days back in Troy/Albany.  When I moved to Seattle I had to explain
what 100% humidity was or what the weather man meant by good sleeping
weather.  Don't miss the summers, but I do miss the foliage...


ObOracle: Best tidbit from Connor's 9i Forgotten Features

URL's for scripts

SQL @http://script.repository/scripts/sessions.sql

I'm sure there's something cool I could do with that but in order to be
*REALLY* useful I'd want to be able to do this

export SQLPATH=$HOME/sql:http//script.repository/scripts/

...or something like that.  The : in the http: is a problem.  Of course
I'd *never* point this out to somewhere out on the big, scary Internet!
To easy for some script kiddy to hack.


Still a Rensselaer county hillbilly at heart,
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:

 ummm.. if it's 100% humidity, doesn't that mean it's raining ..   or misting
 ..  or something?

 I can't imagine it being 100degrees and raining.


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OFA myths was Re: BAARF

2003-09-25 Thread Steve Rospo

I'd like to get rid of the myth that OFA really states all that much about
what goes in what tablespace etc.  I've got a copy of the Cary's OFA paper
entitled The OFA Standard - Oracle7 for Open Systems dated Sept 24,
1995. (Happy belated birthday OFA!)  At the end of paper there's a summary
of the requirements and the recommendations that make up OFA.  The CLOSEST
the OFA comes to specifying table/index separation are

#7 Separate groups of segments with different lifespans, I/O request
demands, and backup frequencies among different tablespaces.

-or maybe-

#11 *IF* [emphasis mine] you can afford enough hardware that: 1) You can
guarantee that each disk drive will contain database files from exactly
one application and 2) You can dedicate sufficiently many drives to each
database to ensure that there will be no I/O bottleneck.

The document itself says, The OFA Standard is a set of configuration
guidelines that will give you faster, more reliable Oracle database that
require less work to maintain.  So every time I read that someone is
putting redo here, index tablespaces here, and temp tablespaces there in
order to be OFA compliant I kinda shrug.  Obviously it's all a good idea
to separate this stuff but it's not absolutely required for OFA-ness.
Essentially, OFA is just a very good way of separating Oracle code from
Oracle data to make administration *much* easier.  I'm sure before OFA
there were plenty of places that had everything under $ORACLE_HOME/dbs and
no naming standard for datafiles.  Ugh!

Now if we could only find this Cary V. Millsap, Oracle Corporation
character so he could explain himself. ;-)  '95 was a loong time ago.

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Thomas Day wrote:

[snip]

 While we're at it could we blow up the OFA myth?  Since you're tablespaces
 are on datafiles that are on logical volumns that are on physical devices
 which may contain one or many actual disks, does it really make sense to
 worry (from a performance standpoint) about separating tables and indexes
 into different tablespaces?

[snip]

 Maybe we will never get rid of the OFA myth.


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RE: Tablespace management.

2003-05-31 Thread Steve Rospo
 recommended using LOCAL, UNIFORM, AUTO as
  the options for tablespace management.  Does anyone have any bad
  experiences with these?  AUTOALLOCATE seems to come up with extents that
  are much smaller than I want and MANUAL segment management requires the
  use
  of FREELISTs (and I know that there are problems with freelists freeing up
  space correctly, especially in a parallel environment).
 
  I can't find any basis for making a decision between UNDO and ROLLBACK
  SEGMENTS.  Does anyone have any experience or recommendations about UNDO
  usage?
 
  The database will be a materialize view replication of a transaction
  master
  that is being used for decision support and has a 15 minute update/refresh
  cycle.  Basically, people can run queries against the snapshot without
  impacting the master.
 
 
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RE: Some of you may find this useful

2003-01-10 Thread Steve Rospo


It looks like all of the SQL executed from the named packages.

I found two references to the voodoo that is x$kglrd, both from the
venerable Steve Adams' ixora.com.au:

http://www.ixora.com.au/q+a/0110/31164749.htm
http://www.ixora.com.au/scripts/library.htm#package_sql_executions

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On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Chris Stephens wrote:


 what is it that i am looking at after running this query??


 pardon the ignorance.
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 That's pretty cool :)
 Thanks for sharing it, Stephane.

 - Kirti

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 break on proc
 column QUERY format A40 word_wrapped
 select substr(KGLNAOWN || '.' || KGLNACNM, 1, 35) proc, KGLNADNM QUERY
 from x$kglrd
 where KGLNAOWN != 'SYS'
 order by 1, kgldepno
 /

 If it doesn't stimulate your creativity I can do nothing for you :-).

 Regards,

 Stephane Faroult
 Oriole
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Re:Queues - does anyone use them

2002-10-30 Thread Steve Rospo


I've used queues extensively and I've never had any reliability problems.
Based on the user_jobs comment, I'd guess mkb is confusing DBMS_JOB with
the DBMS_AQ functionality.

AQs are very nice.  I built an entire scheduling system on using queues
since they have some nice properties (transactional safety, message
delay/timeout/retry, user defined object transport) but I can't vouch for
the java bindings having only used it via PL/SQL.  They seem to be fairly
light weight, but don't go nuts.  I have a dev server that has the same
product installed *LOTS* of times so it's got nearly 1000 queues on it so
the QMON0 process gets a little CPU hoggy.  On a normal server with 6
queues, it's negligible for low throughput applications.  YMMV if you need
the queues to handle sustained high throughput rates.

...oh yeah, we read the same recovery warning and threw the queues in
their own TS.

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On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, mkb wrote:

 Bruce,

 We used to use queues in 8.1.6 on Solaris.  Don't
 remember much about them except that they were, at
 that time, unreliable.  We'd have push/pulls jobs that
 would run extract and transformation routines from
 multiple databases into a reporting DW.

 We finally switched over to Informatica because of the
 unreliabilty of the queues.

 As for seperate queue tables, don't remember.  I
 believe the queues were owned by the application
 schema since I remember looking for stopped jobs in
 user_jobs as the application owner.

 mkb

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  No we don't use advanced queuing here.  Don't
  have the time to figure out
  how to make it work.
 
  Dick Goulet
 
  Reply
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  Author: Reardon; Bruce (CALBBAY)
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  Hi,
 
  I've sent a couple of questions on queues and got no
  answers - that's fine and I
  understand we're all busy.
 
  What I'm wondering though is whether anyone is
  actually using Oracle queues at
  all?
 
  Any feedback would be appreciated.
 
  For anyone out there who does use Advanced queues:
  one of our developers read that Creating a queue
  table in a tablespace will
  disable that particular tablespace for point-in-time
  recovery.
 
  - Do you normally put your AQ tables in a separate
  tablespace (we're currently
  looking at doing just that)?
  - Who normally owns the queues and queue tables -
  system or the application
  schema.
 
  Thanks,
  Bruce Reardon
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RAC on the cheap

2002-10-23 Thread Steve Rospo

If I wanted to put together a cheap RAC for play purposes what sort of
HW/SW would I need?  I'm not talking about a production-level solution
here, just taking some older-HW I might have laying around and turning it
into a RAC with a minimal investment for sandbox purposes.

Could I do it with 2+ Sun boxes w/ Solaris 8 (or 2+ Intel boxes w/ Linux),
some sort of shared SCSI array (A1000 or JBOD) and standard 100 Mb
ethernet?  Is this enough or do I need to spend ? (gigabit ethernet,
fibre channel SAN, Veritas, etc)

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RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users

2002-02-20 Thread Steve Rospo



Nuclear Plant?  Don't say Larry didn't warn you:

The Programs are not intended for use in any nuclear, aviation, mass
transit, medical, or other inherently dangerous applications. It shall be
the licensee's responsibility to take all appropriate fail-safe, backup,
redundancy, and other measures to ensure the safe use of such applications
if the Programs are used for such purposes, and Oracle Corporation
disclaims liability for any damages caused by such use of the Programs.

From Title and Copyright Information for Getting to Know 8i (8.1.6)


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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Kevin Lange wrote:

 For one last 2 cents worth .  same for my last employer.  Even though
 there were only 4 entry stations into the Radiation Protected Area of the
 Nuclear Plant, all employees who were eligible to enter that area was
 considered a user.   Instead of 4, we had to have 1000 licenses.  At least
 Oracle is consistent in their greed...
 

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newfs suggestions for Oracle filesystem

2002-01-26 Thread Steve Rospo


Any suggestions for newfs parameters for a file system that will be
dedicated to Oracle data files?  It will be a large file system with very
few files of very large (2GB) size.  I've been using the following with
good results but I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions.

newfs -v -C 64 -c 229 -f 8192 -i 65536 -r 1 /dev/dsk/cWtXdYsZ
tunefs -a 128 -e 1048576 -m 0 -o time /newfilesystem

Details:
Solaris 2.8
Oracle 8.1.7.1 EE
16k db block size
8k operating block size

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64 bit vs 32 bit Oracle

2001-09-14 Thread Steve Rospo

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Is there any benefit of 64 bit versions over 32 bit versions of Oracle
beyond allowing  2GB SGAs?  (8.1.7/Solaris 2.8 in particular)  The
systems I'm working with are predominantly DSS queries against data sets
that most of the servers have no hope of caching anywhere near the amount
of data needed so huge SGAs are not that useful.  Our C++ guys tell me
that Sun reccommends that compiling 64 bit binaries for processes that
might take advantage of the larger memory limit.  The logic being that 64
bit pointers take up twice as much space as 32 bit pointers and the
processor cache density is thus lower for 64 bit processes.

Does anyone know if there is any additional trickery Oracle does on the
64-bit port that may provide performance benefits that would outweigh the
potential for lower cache hit rates?  Magic data structures?  
_make_sql_faster support?

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RE: 64 bit vs 32 bit Oracle

2001-09-14 Thread Steve Rospo

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Where does this additional throughput come from?

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 Depends, 64bit can certainly give you more throughput, but it is very slow
 for being patched.
 
 Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
 when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes.
 
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 !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !!
 
 Is there any benefit of 64 bit versions over 32 bit versions of Oracle
 beyond allowing  2GB SGAs?  (8.1.7/Solaris 2.8 in particular)  The
 systems I'm working with are predominantly DSS queries against data sets
 that most of the servers have no hope of caching anywhere near the amount
 of data needed so huge SGAs are not that useful.  Our C++ guys tell me
 that Sun reccommends that compiling 64 bit binaries for processes that
 might take advantage of the larger memory limit.  The logic being that 64
 bit pointers take up twice as much space as 32 bit pointers and the
 processor cache density is thus lower for 64 bit processes.
 
 Does anyone know if there is any additional trickery Oracle does on the
 64-bit port that may provide performance benefits that would outweigh the
 potential for lower cache hit rates?  Magic data structures?  
 _make_sql_faster support?
 
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hash join order

2001-08-23 Thread Steve Rospo



Does anyone know how the operation below is performed?  Which object has
the hashtable built on it and which object performs the lookup against the
hashtable once it's built?




| Operation  |  Name  |
---
|   0SELECT STATEMENT||
|   1  0 HASH JOIN   ||
|   2  1  TABLE ACCESS FULL  |B_TAB   |
|   3  1  INDEX FAST FULL SCAN   |PK_A_TAB|
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