RE: ORA-3113 errors after switching W2K server to new network

2004-01-08 Thread Tim Onions
Paul

Sounds suspiciously like an issue we had when se set up our latest system -
something in the firewall or network set-up has a TCP time-out in it. TCP
(or the network or something I'm no network expert) drops the connection
after 60 minutes resulting in client and Oracle server no longer being able
to talk to each other (3113 etc). We get no logs either.

Sorry I can't actually help here but this error we see is nothing to do with
Oracle, Net8 etc and everything to do with the network/firewall. We have not
solved it yet but luckily our software is configurable and can
disconnect/reconnect every 30 minutes so does not fall fowl of the issue.

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Hi everybody,

one of our Win2K servers, running Oracle 8.1.7, has recently been
switched from the University's old network to our shiny new network. All
the DNS entries have been successfully switched, everybody can still
connect to the databases, and all appeared well. Until our users started
reporting ORA-3113 errors (end of file on communiation channel). In
every case, this happens after the user's connection has been inactive
for somewhat over an hour. There are no messages in the database alert
log, no trace files or dump files in the bdump, cdump or udump
locations, and no messages in the listener log or in the sqlnet log. But
it happens with alarming frequency, and only since the switch to the new
network. The network guy who switched the server to the new network says
the only change was to replace the server's previous network card with a
new gigabit ethernet card. In the absence of any kind of server-side
error messages or trace files, I'm more than somewhat stumped. None of
the possible explanations I've found in MetaLink seem to apply in this
case.

Has anyone any ideas? Not only possible solutions, but ideas for further
inquiries, or further questions would be welcome!

Best regards,

Paul Vincent
DBA
University of Central England
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RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Tim Onions
the ntoe I read talked about Oracle Wallets and SSL within Java

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So I got two e-mails today from Oracle Support warning about Verisign Certs
expiring today and to check MetaLink (thanks for the advanced warning guys).
I've been trying for over an hour now and am getting no joy.  Anyone know
what the Verisign Certs are used for in Oracle products?  I don't think we
have any of those products, but...

TIA,
Rich

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RE: shareplex: datatype unsupported

2003-11-05 Thread Tim Onions
That goes for Shareplex too (sorry to state the obvious). I've been
seriously bitten in recent weeks by problems with their stuff too.

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This isn't a direct answer to your question, but make sure you test
logical standby thoroughly--I had to abandon the idea of using it due
to serious bugs in the apply process, and due to seriously poor
performance of the apply process.


--- elain he [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 We are evaluating using either Oracle logical standby or Quest
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 replication for reporting purposes. It appears that there are quite a
 few 
 datatypes not supported by Logical standby. Anyone knows what
 datatypes are 
 not supported by shareplex replication? Tried looking up at quest
 website 
 but could not find any documentation.
 
 Quest claimed that shareplex can replicate database of different
 versions, 
 for eg from 9i to 8i as long as the 9i new features are not being
 utilized. 
 Anyone has any experience with that?
 
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10046 level 8 trace - help required with 'direct path write' wait

2003-10-30 Thread Tim Onions
Gurus

I've applied many of the things I've learnt from this list over the years
and today I tried a 10046 trace for the first time on a reported slow
transaction. From what I can tell the biggest offender is a wait seemingly
associated with rollback (see below) called 'direct path write'. Is this
just a traditional wait for a row lock to be released or something more
sinister? Any help much appreciated. Also (daft question time) what units
are tim= in? (ie how many seconds between tim=131853898 and
tim=131853270).

This SE 8.1.7.4.12 on Windows 2000.

Thank you

T¬

PARSING IN CURSOR #15 len=60 dep=2 uid=38 oct=7 lid=38 tim=131853270
hv=2073223040 ad='8e9a2080'
DELETE FROM ROUTING_NEXT_JOB RNJ WHERE RNJ.NEXT_JOB_ID = :b1
END OF STMT
PARSE #15:c=0,e=2,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=2,og=0,tim=131853270
WAIT #15: nam='latch free' ela= 0 p1=-1856345836 p2=106 p3=0
EXEC #15:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=3,cu=14,mis=0,r=2,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853270
XCTEND rlbk=0, rd_only=0
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59401 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59404 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59407 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59410 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 2 p1=1026 p2=59411 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59414 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59417 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59421 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59425 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59428 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59431 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59434 p3=1
...
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 79 p1=1026 p2=41389 p3=7
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41396 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41397 p3=7
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41404 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41405 p3=3
FETCH #14:c=100,e=628,p=221,cr=5629,cu=12,mis=0,r=1,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853898
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RE: 10046 level 8 trace - help required with 'direct path write'

2003-10-30 Thread Tim Onions
OK - so I'd not got round to reading a recent previous post on the same
issue, seems tim= is in hundredths of seconds for 8i. So I got that bit of
the answer. Still pondering on those 'direct path write' waits though.

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wait


Gurus

I've applied many of the things I've learnt from this list over the years
and today I tried a 10046 trace for the first time on a reported slow
transaction. From what I can tell the biggest offender is a wait seemingly
associated with rollback (see below) called 'direct path write'. Is this
just a traditional wait for a row lock to be released or something more
sinister? Any help much appreciated. Also (daft question time) what units
are tim= in? (ie how many seconds between tim=131853898 and
tim=131853270).

This SE 8.1.7.4.12 on Windows 2000.

Thank you

T¬

PARSING IN CURSOR #15 len=60 dep=2 uid=38 oct=7 lid=38 tim=131853270
hv=2073223040 ad='8e9a2080'
DELETE FROM ROUTING_NEXT_JOB RNJ WHERE RNJ.NEXT_JOB_ID = :b1
END OF STMT
PARSE #15:c=0,e=2,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=2,og=0,tim=131853270
WAIT #15: nam='latch free' ela= 0 p1=-1856345836 p2=106 p3=0
EXEC #15:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=3,cu=14,mis=0,r=2,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853270
XCTEND rlbk=0, rd_only=0
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59401 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59404 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59407 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59410 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 2 p1=1026 p2=59411 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59414 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59417 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59421 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59425 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59428 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59431 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59434 p3=1
...
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 79 p1=1026 p2=41389 p3=7
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41396 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41397 p3=7
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41404 p3=1
WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41405 p3=3
FETCH #14:c=100,e=628,p=221,cr=5629,cu=12,mis=0,r=1,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853898
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RE: 10046 level 8 trace - help required with 'direct path

2003-10-30 Thread Tim Onions
Paul

Oh well spotted, I'd completely missed that, cursor #14 is MUCH more complex
and would require a fair degree of sorts.

Thanks

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John/Tim,

The 'direct path read/write' are for cursor #14.  The delete is cursor #15.
Check the trace file for the preceding cursor #14.


Paul


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Tim,

As you have seen, this is due to writes to and reads from the TEMPORARY
tablespace of that user. This could be due to both SORT segments
(SORT_AREA_SIZE overflow) as well as HASH segments due to HASH Joins going
to TEMP when they overflow HASH_AREA_SIZE. This can be seen from
V$SORT_USAGE.SEGTYPE. Since a DELETE should normally not generate sorting or
Hashing, I am assuming that either there are triggers that are forcing this
to occur, or this is a view and the INSTEAD OF is performing some
inefficient joins... 

Andy - just curious how a WHERE clause on a DELETE would generate Sort usage
(outside of that explained above)...

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Subject: Re: 10046 level 8 trace - help required with 'direct path


Hi, Tim,

Assuming you don't have more than 1000 files, what's your 
db_files set to and
what's select file#, name from v$tempfile? If you do have more 
than 1026 files,
select file#, name from v$datafile.

Also show us select * from v$sort_usage if you can run that 
DELETE again.

XCTEND rlbk=0: your transaction end marker says it's not 
rolling back; i.e.
it's committing.

Yong Huang

--- Andy Rivenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Looks sort spillage to disk due to the where clause.
 
 Andy Rivenes
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 At 06:44 AM 10/30/2003 -0800, Tim Onions wrote:
 Gurus
 
 I've applied many of the things I've learnt from this list 
over the years
 and today I tried a 10046 trace for the first time on a 
reported slow
 transaction. From what I can tell the biggest offender is a 
wait seemingly
 associated with rollback (see below) called 'direct path 
write'. Is this
 just a traditional wait for a row lock to be released or 
something more
 sinister? Any help much appreciated. Also (daft question 
time) what units
 are tim= in? (ie how many seconds between tim=131853898 and
 tim=131853270).
 
 This SE 8.1.7.4.12 on Windows 2000.
 
 Thank you
 
 T¬
 
 PARSING IN CURSOR #15 len=60 dep=2 uid=38 oct=7 lid=38 tim=131853270
 hv=2073223040 ad='8e9a2080'
 DELETE FROM ROUTING_NEXT_JOB RNJ WHERE RNJ.NEXT_JOB_ID = :b1
 END OF STMT
 PARSE #15:c=0,e=2,p=0,cr=1,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=2,og=0,tim=131853270
 WAIT #15: nam='latch free' ela= 0 p1=-1856345836 p2=106 p3=0
 EXEC #15:c=0,e=0,p=0,cr=3,cu=14,mis=0,r=2,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853270
 XCTEND rlbk=0, rd_only=0
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59401 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59404 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59407 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59410 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 2 p1=1026 p2=59411 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59414 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59417 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 1 p1=1026 p2=59421 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59425 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59428 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59431 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path write' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=59434 p3=1
 ...
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 79 p1=1026 p2=41389 p3=7
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41396 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41397 p3=7
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41404 p3=1
 WAIT #14: nam='direct path read' ela= 0 p1=1026 p2=41405 p3=3
 FETCH 
#14:c=100,e=628,p=221,cr=5629,cu=12,mis=0,r=1,dep=2,og=4,tim=131853898
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RE: 10046 level 8 trace - help required with 'direct path write'

2003-10-30 Thread Tim Onions
Mladen

As my db_files parameter is set to 1024 then I take it that p1=1026 refers
to temp file #2 confirming what everybody is telling me its sorting to disk.

Thanks for your input, I now understand what it is I should be looking at.

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RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-24 Thread Tim Onions



Jared

The 
URL refers to an alert for NT 4.0, Patrice is talking about Windows 2000 (which 
is also the MS flavour I'm having problems on), am I being blind here but those 
are 2 different products? If there is a similar alert for Windows2000 I'd 
certainly like to hear about it.

If 
anybody is interested in the original Failsafe issue then I can tell you that 
this morning Oracle have acknowledged it as being a bug (failsafe is looking for 
Oracle9 libraries!). Fix is "being worked on".
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12
You would be well advised to *not* install SP4. It will destroy network performance. 
  Supposedly this can be corrected: 
  
  


  http://tinyurl.com/odlwor http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.aspNoWebContent=1 
  Jared 
  


  
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  patchset 12Tim, 
   Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for 
  Oracle?  Sorry if it's a 
  dumb question, but I am lost in the context.  thanks!  
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified 
  Professional -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 
  2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
  12To anybody using Oracle8i 
  and failsafe,  
  After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 
  on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster 
  administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop 
  it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due 
  diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no 
  flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are 
  indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine 
  but has had to be removed from failsafe.  So two things:  1 - if you are 
  using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 
  12 2 - if you have applied patch 
  set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear 
  from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some 
  thoughts on what is going on.  Many thanks 
   T¬   
  


Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Tim Onions



To 
anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,

After 
implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe 
configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being able to 
control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - saying 
things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence exerciseshave been 
done andI am convinced the patching was no flawed on my part.I 
suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are indicating that others may 
be having the same problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from 
failsafe.

So two 
things:

1 - if 
you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch 
set 12
2 - if 
you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with 
failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a 
fix or share some thoughts on what is going on.

Many 
thanks

T¬


  


RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Tim Onions



Good 
question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one.
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  -Original Message-From: Mercadante, Thomas F 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 September 2003 
  12:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and 
  patchset 12
  Tim,
  
  Just 
  curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle? 
  
  Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the 
  context.
  
  thanks!
  
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
-Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 
23, 2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
12
To 
anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,

After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server 
failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being 
able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - 
saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence 
exerciseshave been done andI am convinced the patching was no 
flawed on my part.I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support 
are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs 
fine but has had to be removed from failsafe.

So 
two things:

1 
- if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before 
applying patch set 12
2 
- if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully 
with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on 
Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going 
on.

Many thanks

T¬


  


RE: SharePlex info

2003-08-25 Thread Tim Onions
Title: Message



Shareplex does not use triggers on NT it uses the same underlying 
technology as it does on Unix "reading" the log files and shipping SQL to the 
target database. It uses a 3rd party tool called "Knutcracker" to allow it to 
some ofits UNIX commands on NT.

T¬-Original 
Message-From: Yechiel Adar 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 25 August 2003 09:10To: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SharePlex 
info

  Sorry about the late reply but (if I remember 
  correctly from my research about one year ago) Shareplex does something like 
  log mining only on Unix systems. On NT it uses triggers just like 
  replication.
  
  Yechiel AdarMehish
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Aponte, Tony 

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:39 
PM
Subject: SharePlex info

You are correct in the first place. SharePlex works as you 
describe, it mines the log and sends only the absolute minimum to reassemble 
the transaction on the target. It doesn't send SQL. The target 
side processes take the data and rebuild a SQL statement from the DDL 
definitions it got from the data dictionaries of the source and target (just 
in case you only want a subset of the columns.) Sorry if I confused 
you.

Tony

  -Original Message-From: Gorbounov,Vadim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 21, 
  2003 5:01 PMTo: Aponte, TonySubject: RE: SharePlex 
  info
  Tony, 
  
  My question was inspired by belief that SharePlex does log mining 
  on the source DB and hence do not send unnecessary data over the network. 
  Apparently, this is not the case. I didn't want to compare SharePlex to 
  logical standby cause I know that logical standby definitely needs all 
  logs transported to the target site where is does log mining. 
  
  We considering remote disaster recovery site where we want to have 
  working data and we don't care much about "log" tables. 
  
  
  Thank you for valuable info. 
  
-Original Message-From: Aponte, Tony 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:40 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: SharePlex 
info
Your bandwidth requirements will be the rate of 
changes to the actual data. The traffic consists of the actual 
data and control information needed to reassemble the transaction on the 
target. The source database's other redo payload (i.e., index 
operations, rollback segment maintenance, etc.) is not used by 
Shareplex. 

In our environment of dual Sun 6800's, 10 CPU's 
each, we observe less that 1% CPU consumption on the source and target 
sides combined. It varies according to the DML load on the source 
but not by much. We've never had a problem with it consuming a 
noticeable amount.

I have a question on the comparison between a 
physical standby and Shareplex replication.Isn't9i's 
logical standby featurebetter suited for the comparison to 
Shareplex? I'm assuming that you are considering offloading some 
processing to another host since you are looking to replicate about 50% 
of the tables in the source database.

HTH
Tony Aponte



  -Original Message-From: Gorbounov,Vadim 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 
  21, 2003 1:49 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: SharePlex info
  Hi All, 
  
  
  I'm trying to find some 
  technical details about SharePlex, that is:
  
  - How much network 
  bandwidth I'd expect to replicate from database, generating 1-5 MB/sec 
  redo. DoesSharePlex send SQL text over the network or data in 
  some internal (hopefully 
  compressed)format
  - How much CPU on the 
  source DB server side would it cost - just a ball park - very 
  little- little - or a lot 
  - Of two options, using 
  9.2 physical async standby db and clone whole database vs replicate 
  50% (enough from business requirements) of tables using SharePlex, 
  which onesounds preferrable keeping in mind minimizing CPU 
  burden on the source database. 
  
  Any opinion or pointer to 
  any benchmark is highly appreciated. 
  
  Thanks a 
  lot
  Vadim


RE: SharePlex

2003-08-10 Thread Tim Onions
Title: Message



I'll 
add one to the list:

nnn) 
How much downtime and DBA time is required when the Shareplex replication queues 
get corrupted and you have to rebuild your entire replicated database? (I only 
add that as I've got to do it tomorrow morning).

T¬
From: Nick Wagner 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 09 August 2003 
00:04To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
SharePlex

  I 
  know a little of their product... but I think you should be well 
  aware of the limitations before attempting to implement it. Here are a 
  couple of questions to ask the technical folks over 
  there...
  
  1)What happens when someone applies an Oracle Financials patch to 
  the system. What is the procedure?
  2) 
  Do you have anyone else running Financials 11i thatyou could talk to as 
  a reference?
  3) 
  Do they support IOT's? (Which Financials has a lot of)
  4) 
  How much downtime is normally associated with something like adding a new 
  table or dropping one from replication? 
  
  Nick
  
  -Original Message-From: Nelson, Allan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:44 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  SharePlex
  We 
  are not running 9i but 8.1.7.4, sorry for not including that 
  earlier. We are rolling out to our international offices and we 
  basically have offices in every time zone. I'm looking at SharePlex for 
  HA, reporting use, and potentially migrating from HP to Linux. They will 
  be on Linux next month.
  
  Allan
  

-Original Message-From: Goulet, Dick 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:59 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
SharePlex
Nelson,

 SharePlex does the same basic thing that Oracle does 
for the logical standby, as a matter of fact if your running 9i why not use 
that instead of Quests's pricey tool? I don't believe there is any 
additional cost to using logical standby over the second server license that 
your going to have to pay anyway.

Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i 
DBA 

  -Original Message-From: Nelson, Allan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:14 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  SharePlex
  Hello, 
  Quest is trying to sell us a product named 
  SharePlex. It sounds very attractive, but then sales people are 
  supposed to be good at that. We are a mid sized company, about 2.2 
  billion per year, running Financials 11.5.7. We are interested in 
  this for HA and for reporting instance use. 
  rant We use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this product 
  tells me that we can't tune the SQL it emits. It makes pretty poor 
  choices, which is not surprising for a gooey, sticky tool designed for end 
  users. It is sort of pretty and if you can drool you too can 
  generate cross products. Anyway , I'd like to get them off the 
  production box.
  rant/ 
  Does SharePlex allow you to stay close to the 
  production instance in time? Does the store and forward work 
  well? Do you love it? Hate it? Anything you'd like to 
  say about this product I'd like to hear
  Thanks in advance  
  
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RE: Integration with IBM Mqueue series

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Onions
Did anybody get to download the presentation? When I try and get it form the
NJ downloads page I get a:

The requested URL /download/Oracle PRN Streams.ppt was not found on this
server.

message. I would very much like to read this.

Thanks

T¬

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I thinks Oracle Streams in 9i does the same thing. Please check for doc on 
otn or metalink. I attended a workshop on Oracle Streams in NJ yesterday and

presenter was Indy Johal. A nice presentation. It may be placed at 
www.njoug.org.


He is also going to present it in Oracle OPENWorld in SEP 2003.

Regards
Rafiq




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Try reading up about Oracle AQ, and particularly the JMS and translation
related stuff with 9i AQ. IBM MQ series is a Messaging gateway for  EAI
integration, It has a number of competitors such as See Beyond, Tibco and
MS Biztalk.
In simple terms these systems take in a message and through translation
rules read the message header and route it to another system, so your
Oracle Applications can talk to the SAP system or the  Peoplesoft system
or our software via a single interface as the MQ server acts as the
gateway.

All adaptors are generally C++ or Java but not exclusively and the
messages are XML

Oracle has or did have a product called Interconnect built on AQ that was
a competitor for MQ Series

HTH

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RE: Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Onions
Last time I checked it was 4 for Windows NT/2000. Not a UNIX shop so can't
comment on that OS.

T¬
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I am trying to find any info on if there is a maximum number pf processors
that a server can have and have Oracle standard edition run on it.  Just
looking to see if there is a cutoff point in the number of processors where
I would be forced to go to Enterprise Edition of Oracle 8i..  I'm looking
through the concepts docs but have not yet found this info.

Thanks,

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RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC issues

2003-07-18 Thread Tim Onions





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  -Original Message-From: Hemant K Chitale 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 18 July 2003 
  16:55To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 and 9iRAC 
  issuesReports on "Bugs" in IBM's DB2 which led to 
  "a critical operational situation"http://theregister.co.uk/content/archive/30095.html 
  and http://www.danskebank.com/link/ITreport20030403uk/$file/ITreport20030403uk.pdfReport 
  on Orbitz blaming an outage on Oracle's 9iRAC [and Orbitz going out of 9iRAC] 
  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1196879,00.asp 
  and http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,83186,00.html
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RE: invalid dbms_shared_pool

2003-04-03 Thread Tim Onions
This happened to me once - when I was mistakenly ran the script as SYSTEM
instead of SYS/internal. Any chance somebody did this on your DB (a long
shot I know)?
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thanks  Rich ,
is is hp-ux 8.1.6. db . I haven't tried alter package .. yet . Only thing
that's differnet is there was no patch or compilation in last few months .
How can the package become invalid one day .

-ak


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 You don't say what version, but I've seen many SYS packages go invalid in
 8.1.x on HP/UX, especially after patching or installing a new
option/feature
 like Oracle Text.  I've found that attempting to revalidate them either by
 hand or by running ?/rdbms/admin/utlrp.sql is futile.  One gets fixed and
 five others break.  Fix those five and three more break.  Lather.  Rinse.
 Repeat.

 For better or worse, the only way I've been able to consistently fix this
is
 to take the brute force approach and rerun the ?/rdbms/admin/whatever.sql
 script that created the packages that are now invalid in the order in
which
 they were originally run when the DB was created.  Depending on which
 packages, this may be best left to off-hours.

 GL!


 Rich

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 In one of our db i found that dbms_shared_pool package body is invalid .
Any
 idea why that could happen . It's not causing any problem . It's just
 appearing as one of invalid objects .
 In fact I am able to execute dbms_shared_pool.keep
 with out error . Looks like  specification are intact .

 there was no package compilation in many days .

 Only thing i remeber is , we tried to set keep pool
 and i misspelled  keep_pool ,( but does that cause invalidation , i dont
buy
 it )

 -ak



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RE: Which process is taking up so much CPU???

2003-03-27 Thread Tim Onions
Hey, it could well be one of mine (or something derived from the same source
as I started with) - got all the same words, syntax and style as something I
call SessionTopCPU and use to be available off my web site. I think the
original inspiration was from Dave Ensor, but I no longer use the report and
have long since forgotten almost everything about it (ie I won't be of much
help in answering questions).

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Prompt
Prompt Show total CPU and statement CPU for current session (requires TIMED
STATISTICS = TRUE)
Prompt

set verify off
col UNAM format a20  word  heading 'User'
col STMT format a56  word  heading 'Statement'
col RUNT format a08  word  heading 'CPU Time'
col ltim format a20 word heading 'Logon Time'
col etim format a20 word heading 'Connect Time'
col PROG format a30 word heading 'Program|Client Terminal Details'
col SID  format a10 word heading 'SID/|Serial#'
col DR   format 9 heading 'Disk Reads'
col BG   format 9 heading 'Buffer Gets'
col EX   format 9 heading 'Executions'
col rsecs format 999,999,999.00 heading CPU time|(seconds)
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RE: Passing DB-Link name in a Loop

2003-03-21 Thread Tim Onions
Hemant

In case nobody has yet replied I believe your error is that you cannot use a
bind variable in an execute immediate for the db link name as you are trying
to do with this statement:

  exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from dba_data_files@:b1';

Changing it to this might work (I've not checked it myself so no guarantees)

  exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from
dba_data_files@'||remote_db;
execute immediate exec_string into db_size;

T¬


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Guys, 
help me here.
This SQL [below] returns the error :
connecting to AM3C01
declare
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01729: database link name expected
ORA-06512: at line 16


[AM3C01] is the first db_link fetched.

tti 'Database Sizes (excluding TEMPFILEs) ' center

spool DB_Sizes

set serveroutput on size 5;

declare
   cursor c1 is select db_link from user_db_links;

   remote_DB varchar2(128);
   db_size number;
   exec_string  varchar2(255);

begin
   open c1;
   loop
 fetch  c1 into remote_DB;
 exit when c1%NOTFOUND;
  dbms_output.put_line('connecting to '||remote_DB);
-- select  sum(bytes)/1048576 into db_size from
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  exec_string := 'select  sum(bytes)/1048576 from dba_data_files@:b1';
execute immediate exec_string into db_size using remote_DB;
 dbms_output.put_line('DB :  '||remote_DB||':'||db_size);
   end loop;
   close c1;
 commit;
end;
/

spool off

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RE: OIP-04109: Error creating temporary file

2001-03-12 Thread Tim Onions

Oops - I meant of course Oracle Objects for OLE (OO4O)

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I think (stress think) OIP messages are Oracle Objects for NT.

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Anyone know what this means...or even what product OIP is?

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RE: Anyone used Fail Safe for NT?

2001-03-06 Thread Tim Onions

Earl

I've  just done it on a 2 node Win2k cluster but supporting a single
database - and it REALLY was easy. Can't see any reason why it shouldn't be
easy with more than one DB onthe cluster.

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Anyone use Oracle Fail Safe for NT? Compaq just finished a tech/mkt
presentation and made it seem oh so easy (for the right $). I am wondering
if anyone has done it and in a multi DB env.

Cheers,

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