RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Next question is, how did this happen? ltiu Mercadante, Thomas F wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find.
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here such lovely choices we have --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego,
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not mistaken, too... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here such lovely choices we have --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Wine can run lotus notes. I tested it and it works fairly nice. The only problem is that I cannot resize the window, so I have to use another workspace for it. -Original Message- From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not mistaken, too... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here such lovely choices we have --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
The universe exists according to our beliefs. If you believe that you have no choice, then you have no choice. But only because you believe it. Happy Friday, Mark There is no spoon Stahlke Denver Newspaper Agency -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 7:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only one). How the hell did they lose market share? ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote: found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not mistaken, too... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here such lovely choices we have --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
HERE... herd mentality... Microsoft rules... Microsoft Rules... Oracle
Applications are buggy and user GMT in their log files... Access is better,
Microsoft doesn't sell buggy software... mooo... hey... look at that really
cool cliff... Let's follow those other buffalo ... the jump looks like
fun
Better question. If 90% of the email virus's are written for Outlook
address book... Why is it considered 'what to use'?
-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only
one). How the hell did they lose market share?
ltiu
On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote:
found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not
mistaken, too...
-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here
such lovely choices we have
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The same way Digital did. The best product doesn't always win... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only one). How the hell did they lose market share? ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote: found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not mistaken, too... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here such lovely choices we have --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San
LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
What are you trying to communicate to us. There is nothing in your mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
MUM, Eric is listening!!! :-)) On Thursday 29 August 2002 18:08, you wrote: Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: kkennedy INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Linux or MacOSX are good alternatives for the end user. ltiu kkennedy wrote: You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Etch-A-Sketch's are even better for the end(L)user -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Linux or MacOSX are good alternatives for the end user. ltiu kkennedy wrote: You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: kkennedy INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seefelt, Beth INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Oh boy, this looks like a deja vu. -Original Message- From: Seefelt, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: kkennedy INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seefelt, Beth INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
Unfortunately, the only viable alternative choice for me would be to find a new job that doesn't use MS sExchange and MS Lookout for it's corporate e-mail. Hey! In the Online Oracle RAC Dog Pony today, they touted that RAC saved millions for a company that had 97 e-mail servers by being able to drop that to 13 worldwide (or something like that). Just trying to stay a little on-topic... :) Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: kkennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-) To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately. Kevin Kennedy First Point Energy Corporation If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) Hi, I recieved an email today as follows: Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany One or more attachments were deleted Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. Here is the repsonse from my guys: It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. diamonddata.com and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email. It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: kkennedy INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network
