Re: RE: Different Platform

2003-07-21 Thread bhabani s pradhan
FORTE compiler




On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 Richard Ji wrote :
So which compiler will you standarize on?  GCC?
On Solaris I believe the Sun C Compiler is supported but not gcc, 
though
you can make it work.

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Our production environment is on Sun OS 5.8 sparc.
DB is

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
CORE 8.1.7.0.0 Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

The application has a lot of Pro*C programs.
--

We are planning to have the development/test DB on Linux 2.4 on
Intel platform.

We will be doing modifications/upgrades to the application and 
DB
and will be applying the changes to production.


Will there be ANY kind of compatibility problem (relating to 
OCI,
or plsql procs etc) ?

Thanks in Advance
Regards

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Different Platform

2003-07-20 Thread bhabani s pradhan
Hi All

Our production environment is on Sun OS 5.8 sparc.
DB is

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
CORE 8.1.7.0.0 Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

The application has a lot of Pro*C programs.
--

We are planning to have the development/test DB on Linux 2.4 on 
Intel platform.

We will be doing modifications/upgrades to the application and DB 
and will be applying the changes to production.


Will there be ANY kind of compatibility problem (relating to OCI, 
or plsql procs etc) ?

Thanks in Advance
Regards

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Re: Different Platform

2003-07-20 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

 Our production environment is on Sun OS 5.8 sparc.
[snip]
 The application has a lot of Pro*C programs.
 --

 We are planning to have the development/test DB on Linux 2.4 on
 Intel platform.

 We will be doing modifications/upgrades to the application and DB
 and will be applying the changes to production.


 Will there be ANY kind of compatibility problem (relating to OCI,
 or plsql procs etc) ?

PL/SQL won't usually have any problems, at least I haven't seen any (when
moving from unix to unix you won't have thes directory path problems
either...).

OCI library side should also be the same for all unix platforms, but your
application definitely needs to be tested on Sun, there's many differences
between platforms, especially when using threading and other advanced
programming techniques.

Tanel.


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RE: Different Platform

2003-07-20 Thread Richard Ji
So which compiler will you standarize on?  GCC?
On Solaris I believe the Sun C Compiler is supported but not gcc, though
you can make it work.

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Hi All

Our production environment is on Sun OS 5.8 sparc.
DB is

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
CORE 8.1.7.0.0 Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

The application has a lot of Pro*C programs.
--

We are planning to have the development/test DB on Linux 2.4 on 
Intel platform.

We will be doing modifications/upgrades to the application and DB 
and will be applying the changes to production.


Will there be ANY kind of compatibility problem (relating to OCI, 
or plsql procs etc) ?

Thanks in Advance
Regards

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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-14 Thread Sashidhar Kondareddy
Hi:

Thanks to everyone who responded to my message on Cross Platform 
Migration... I will update the list if we come to any conclusions not 
consilient with the findings given on the list..

Thanks  Regards,
Sashi

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---  Original Message ---
We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.

I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.

Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?

Coming to the conventional approaches:

1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
1a. How much time will it take? 
1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?

2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?

3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
control files on the target database and we are done. 

Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...

Thanks  Regards,
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-09 Thread Goulet, Dick
Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd think the time required would be the 
long pole in the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 day weekend at best and 
only if you used direct mode.  Someone has hinted that you can simply move the 
datafiles from one box to the other.  Well I'd not loose the original system before 
you prove that.  My experience with database file from Solaris to HP-UX has been a 
100% loss of data.  Granted that was on a much earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Hi all:

We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.

I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.

Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?

Coming to the conventional approaches:

1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
1a. How much time will it take? 
1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?

2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?

3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
control files on the target database and we are done. 

Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...

Thanks  Regards,
Sashi
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-09 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
You may want to review an article, Cross Platform Migration of a Large Production 
Database, in
the latest issue(2nd Qtr 2003) of SELECT journal (by IOUG). 
The author details the procedure he followed to migrtate a 300GB production database 
from HP-UX to
IBM AIX. 

- Kirti


--- Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd think the time required would be 
 the long pole
 in the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 day weekend at best and only if 
 you used
 direct mode.  Someone has hinted that you can simply move the datafiles from one box 
 to the
 other.  Well I'd not loose the original system before you prove that.  My experience 
 with
 database file from Solaris to HP-UX has been a 100% loss of data.  Granted that was 
 on a much
 earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).
 
 Dick Goulet
 Senior Oracle DBA
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:29 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 ..
 
 
 Hi all:
 
 We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
 HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.
 
 I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.
 
 Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?
 
 Coming to the conventional approaches:
 
 1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
 1a. How much time will it take? 
 1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?
 
 2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?
 
 3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
 Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
 control files on the target database and we are done. 
 
 Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Sashi
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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over

2003-06-09 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Aah !Hint,  hint   that some certain RDBMS vendor will offer cross-platform
compatibility of database files soon.
Hemant
At 04:14 AM 07-06-03 -0800, you wrote:
Sashidar:

In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
platform compatible.
There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
any new tools to do that.
Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)
If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
Have you checked that?


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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or

2003-06-09 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
1. Join the 10i beta program

2. Convert your 9.2 datafiles using the cross-platform transportable
tablespaces feature of a dummy 10i instance.

;-)

Or...

Back when one of our system swas at around 200M, we had a C program
that dumped table data in parallel by rowid ranges, wrote the streams
in SQL*Loader native format to named pipes that were being dd'd with
large block sizes across a fast network, to several SQL*Loader
processes on the other side using direct/unrecoverable.

We ran several of these at a time.  As soon as a table would finish we
would kick off the index creation in parallel/unrecoverable mode.  The
goal was to get both the source and target hosts as close to 100%
utilization as possible.

This was  Oracle 8.0.5,  migrating Compaq Tru64  (DEC OSF to  HP-UX 11
64-bit.

The migration took 6 hours.  It shouldn't have even taken that long,
but we were clumsy in a few ways.

There's a lot involved in a migration.  Lots of dependencies and
details to think about.  I recommend repeated practice runs on test
equipment before trying the real thing.  There's a lot of blood to be
squeezed out of this stone to get the time down and reliability up.

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On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Goulet, Dick wrote:

 Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd think the time required would be 
 the long pole in the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 day weekend at best 
 and only if you used direct mode.  Someone has hinted that you can simply move the 
 datafiles from one box to the other.  Well I'd not loose the original system before 
 you prove that.  My experience with database file from Solaris to HP-UX has been a 
 100% loss of data.  Granted that was on a much earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).
 
 Dick Goulet
 Senior Oracle DBA
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:29 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 ..
 
 
 Hi all:
 
 We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
 HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.
 
 I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.
 
 Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?
 
 Coming to the conventional approaches:
 
 1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
 1a. How much time will it take? 
 1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?
 
 2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?
 
 3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
 Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
 control files on the target database and we are done. 
 
 Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...
 
 Thanks  Regards,
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over

2003-06-09 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Direct mode doesn't work across platforms [or, at least, I haven't tried 
it].  It isn't supported.

SQLLDR,  Parallel Export-Import,  Parallel Index Build are options -- these 
can be done
in parallel.  Run at least two rounds of testing to see how you can migrate 
the data.

Hemant
At 06:29 AM 09-06-03 -0800, you wrote:
Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd think the time required 
would be the long pole in the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 
day weekend at best and only if you used direct mode.  Someone has hinted 
that you can simply move the datafiles from one box to the other.  Well 
I'd not loose the original system before you prove that.  My experience 
with database file from Solaris to HP-UX has been a 100% loss of 
data.  Granted that was on a much earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Hi all:

We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from
HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.
I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.

Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?

Coming to the conventional approaches:

1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database?
1a. How much time will it take?
1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?
2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?

3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to
Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the
control files on the target database and we are done.
Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...

Thanks  Regards,
Sashi
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-09 Thread mkb
Wondering out aloud here.  Could you export/imp using
pipes.  I remember doing this on a 200gb database
going from 7.3 to 8 on Solaris, granted on the same
server.  Took about 4-6 hours if I remember correctly.

Anyway to create a remote pipe on another server to
listen for inputs from another server so that the
above can be accomplisher or am I Way off the
mark here.

mohammed 

--- Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd
 think the time required would be the long pole in
 the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 day
 weekend at best and only if you used direct mode. 
 Someone has hinted that you can simply move the
 datafiles from one box to the other.  Well I'd not
 loose the original system before you prove that.  My
 experience with database file from Solaris to HP-UX
 has been a 100% loss of data.  Granted that was on a
 much earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).
 
 Dick Goulet
 Senior Oracle DBA
 Oracle Certified 8i DBA 
 
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 Hi all:
 
 We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness
 Suite 11.5.8 from 
 HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.
 
 I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how
 daunting the task is.
 
 Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?
 
 Coming to the conventional approaches:
 
 1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB
 database? 
 1a. How much time will it take? 
 1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?
 
 2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to
 Export/Import?
 
 3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles
 on HP-UX 11.0 to 
 Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just
 need to recreate the 
 control files on the target database and we are
 done. 
 
 Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are
 greatly appreciated...
 
 Thanks  Regards,
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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-09 Thread Jared . Still
This is *exactly* what I would like to do on our
SAP systems when we upgrade, since this is the
best way to move to LMT's.

Unfortunately for me and a lot of other folks, Windoze
don't do that.  :(

You can't imagine just how much I wish we were on Solaris.

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You may want to review an article, Cross Platform Migration of a Large 
Production Database, in
the latest issue(2nd Qtr 2003) of SELECT journal (by IOUG). 
The author details the procedure he followed to migrtate a 300GB 
production database from HP-UX to
IBM AIX. 

- Kirti


--- Goulet, Dick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exp/imp of a 200GB database is possible, but I'd think the time required 
would be the long pole
 in the tent.  I'd say your looking at at least a 4 day weekend at best 
and only if you used
 direct mode.  Someone has hinted that you can simply move the datafiles 
from one box to the
 other.  Well I'd not loose the original system before you prove that. My 
experience with
 database file from Solaris to HP-UX has been a 100% loss of data. 
Granted that was on a much
 earlier version of Oracle (6.0.x).
 
 Dick Goulet
 Senior Oracle DBA
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 Hi all:
 
 We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
 HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.
 
 I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.
 
 Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?
 
 Coming to the conventional approaches:
 
 1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
 1a. How much time will it take? 
 1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?
 
 2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?
 
 3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
 Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
 control files on the target database and we are done. 
 
 Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...
 
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HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-07 Thread Sashidhar Kondareddy
Hi all:

We are considering migration of an Oracle eBusiness Suite 11.5.8 from 
HP-UX 11.0 to Solaris9.

I'd like to know if anyone has done this and how daunting the task is.

Are there any 3rd Party tools which can help out?

Coming to the conventional approaches:

1. What do you think of Export/Import of a 200 GB database? 
1a. How much time will it take? 
1b. Any strategies for cutting that down?

2. How does CTAS over dblink compare to Export/Import?

3.  Is there any tool that converts Oracle datafiles on HP-UX 11.0 to 
Oracle datafiles on Solaris 9. If so we would just need to recreate the 
control files on the target database and we are done. 

Any suggestions, pointers, words of wisdom are greatly appreciated...

Thanks  Regards,
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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink or ..

2003-06-07 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
Sashidar:


In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
platform compatible.

There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
any new tools to do that.

Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)

If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
Have you checked that?




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RE: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink o

2003-06-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
K
  I'm looking to move a large database from HP/Compaq/DEC Alpha to Sun. Any
possibility the datafiles might be compatible?

Sashidar
  This was discussed quite a bit on this list 5/14, the subject was
quickest method. The consensus seemed to be that:
  1. SQL*Loader in direct path mode is the fastest. The catch is the hassle
of getting the data out to a flat file and creating a loader control file.
  2. Database links and exp/imp are roughly the same speed, so you have to
test to see which will be fastest for your situation.
I plan to test these various methods in our environment, since the downtime
window will be rather small.
   Consider using the 80/20 principle (Pareto's Rule). Typically, just a
handful of tables contain most of the data. In my case, a single table
contains about 25% of the data. It is worth the effort to develop a method
to dump the data to a flat file and to create a loader control file if that
is the fastest method. For the many small files, just use exp/imp. Please
update me on any conclusions you reach since this topic is of significant
interest to me. Thanks.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sashidar:


In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
platform compatible.

There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
any new tools to do that.

Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)

If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
Have you checked that?




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Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan,
Bangalore, INDIA.
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Re: HP-Sun Cross Platform Migration - Exp/Imp, CTAS over dblink o

2003-06-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
Why don't you try it? Create a small database on Alpha, rcp it to
HP and see what happens.

On 2003.06.07 09:39 DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
 K
   I'm looking to move a large database from HP/Compaq/DEC Alpha to Sun. Any
 possibility the datafiles might be compatible?
 
 Sashidar
   This was discussed quite a bit on this list 5/14, the subject was
 quickest method. The consensus seemed to be that:
   1. SQL*Loader in direct path mode is the fastest. The catch is the hassle
 of getting the data out to a flat file and creating a loader control file.
   2. Database links and exp/imp are roughly the same speed, so you have to
 test to see which will be fastest for your situation.
 I plan to test these various methods in our environment, since the downtime
 window will be rather small.
Consider using the 80/20 principle (Pareto's Rule). Typically, just a
 handful of tables contain most of the data. In my case, a single table
 contains about 25% of the data. It is worth the effort to develop a method
 to dump the data to a flat file and to create a loader control file if that
 is the fastest method. For the many small files, just use exp/imp. Please
 update me on any conclusions you reach since this topic is of significant
 interest to me. Thanks.
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 
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 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:15 AM
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 or ..
 
 
 Sashidar:
 
 
 In THEORY HP datafiles and Sun data files are compaible. That is you
 can just move the HP data files to the Sun server and recreate the data
 files. Both data files are in same endianness and they are cross
 platform compatible.
 
 There is no tool to convert a datafile from one OS format to another OS
 format. Some time back, some one (Guess who??) tried developing a tool
 and the idea was dropped since Oracle started addressing this issue as
 a standard feature inside the RDBMS product. So there is no third party
 tool available in the market to do that conversion and I don't expect
 any new tools to do that.
 
 Having said that, that above said method is NOT officially supported by
 Oracle in current versions. You have to wait for some more time to get
 that officially supported by Oracle (clue!!)
 
 If you have a faster interconnect CTAS will be much faster than export
 import method, I remember seeing some comparitive numbers in Metalink..
 Have you checked that?
 
 
 
 
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Cross Platform RPC

2001-10-25 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: Weirdness



Probably a bit "OT" here, butanyone have any pithy 
rejoinders
about 
doing cross platform RPC...or how MS RPC is different from, 
say, 
ONC/Sun RPC?

I am 
about to get into something where this will matter, and I am 
just
dipping a toe in the water. 

thanks 
in advance for any thoughts, including those scurrilous off topic 
comments!

;-)

- Ross 
Mohan


Re: Cross Platform RPC

2001-10-25 Thread Charlie Mengler

I'm supporting Siebel; where the database is Oracle running on
Solaris while the Siebel application server software runs on
an NT box. As part of the DB shutdown script an rsh is issued
to the NT box to stop the application server s/w prior to bringing
down the DB. In the DB startup script the application server
is started after the DB comes up. 

I've successfully tested starting from NT  invoking a script
on Solaris, but don't have anything just yet in production 
that uses this capability.

HTH  YMMV!

 Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
 Probably a bit OT here, butanyone have any pithy rejoinders
 about doing cross platform RPC...or how MS RPC is different from,
 say, ONC/Sun RPC?
 
 I am about to get into something where this will matter, and I am just
 dipping a toe in the water.
 
 thanks in advance for any thoughts, including those scurrilous off topic comments!
 
 ;-)
 
 - Ross Mohan

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RE: Cross(-eyed) Platform RPC

2001-10-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

CM - 

I *think* this is functionally identical but linguistically
different than client/server RPC calls. The rsh is supported
( i ::think::, Unix goo-roo's help me, here) by udp/ip as is
rpc calling, but...is strictly remote execution without the
richness the RPC connection offers. 

Of course, I am probably just smoking WAY to much Oracle cRAC. 

thanks for your thoughts...it keeps the juice going (but then
again, you probably didn't need that level of detail. )

:-)

- RM


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I'm supporting Siebel; where the database is Oracle running on
Solaris while the Siebel application server software runs on
an NT box. As part of the DB shutdown script an rsh is issued
to the NT box to stop the application server s/w prior to bringing
down the DB. In the DB startup script the application server
is started after the DB comes up. 

I've successfully tested starting from NT  invoking a script
on Solaris, but don't have anything just yet in production 
that uses this capability.

HTH  YMMV!

 Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
 Probably a bit OT here, butanyone have any pithy rejoinders
 about doing cross platform RPC...or how MS RPC is different from,
 say, ONC/Sun RPC?
 
 I am about to get into something where this will matter, and I am just
 dipping a toe in the water.
 
 thanks in advance for any thoughts, including those scurrilous off topic
comments!
 
 ;-)
 
 - Ross Mohan

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FW: Platform

2001-09-26 Thread Libal, Ivo

If you are interested I found the answer on metalink:

select dbms_utility.port_string from dual; 

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Hello
how is it possible in PLSQL to decide on which operating system (NT/LINUX)is
server running?
I would like to automatically specify directory where output from dbms_file
will go. On nt I need something like c:\log and on unix I would like to have
something like /log  .
Is there any view where I can find this information about OS?
Thank you for responce
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Re: Platform

2001-09-26 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


You can always check for the location of the datafiles.

Their location on nt should start with   {A-Z}:\  and can be evaluated
through a substring command or something


Jack




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Hello
how is it possible in PLSQL to decide on which operating system
(NT/LINUX)is
server running?
I would like to automatically specify directory where output from dbms_file
will go. On nt I need something like c:\log and on unix I would like to
have
something like /log  .
Is there any view where I can find this information about OS?
Thank you for responce
Ivo
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RE: Platform

2001-09-26 Thread Daemen, Remco

How about trying one, build an exception, and on exception try the other ?

HTH,  Remco

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Hello
how is it possible in PLSQL to decide on which operating system (NT/LINUX)is
server running?
I would like to automatically specify directory where output from dbms_file
will go. On nt I need something like c:\log and on unix I would like to have
something like /log  .
Is there any view where I can find this information about OS?
Thank you for responce
Ivo
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Re: Platform

2001-09-26 Thread Bill Buchan


I presume you mean utl_file, not dbms_file.  Doesn't this need the utl_file 
parameter set up with the available directories - could you just check to 
see if this parameter includes c:\log or /log

- Bill.


At 05:10 26/09/01 -0800, you wrote:
Hello
how is it possible in PLSQL to decide on which operating system (NT/LINUX)is
server running?
I would like to automatically specify directory where output from dbms_file
will go. On nt I need something like c:\log and on unix I would like to have
something like /log  .
Is there any view where I can find this information about OS?
Thank you for responce
Ivo
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RE: Platform

2001-09-26 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Platform





I've also used this query:


select substr (banner, 9, instr (banner, ':') - 9) as os
from v$version
where banner like 'TNS for %' ;


Because port_string is sometimes cryptic. For example, on my 7.3.4 database on Sun Solaris, here's what I get:
SQL select dbms_utility.port_string from dual ;


PORT_STRING

SVR4-be-7.0.0


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 From: Libal, Ivo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 If you are interested I found the answer on metalink:
 
 select dbms_utility.port_string from dual; 
 
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 how is it possible in PLSQL to decide on which operating 
 system (NT/LINUX)is
 server running?
 I would like to automatically specify directory where output 
 from dbms_file
 will go. On nt I need something like c:\log and on unix I 
 would like to have
 something like /log .
 Is there any view where I can find this information about OS?





Platform dependency on released connections (WAS) Re: user holding session even after a re-boot

2001-08-16 Thread Galen Boyer

On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guess the bottom line is the behavior of a released connection
 is platform dependent.

What do you guys think?  I would hope this isn't the case.

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Set-up layout config to impl PeopleSoft on Oracle HP platform

2001-08-14 Thread Townsend Willie

Guru List,

Does anyone have any documentation or recommendations for setting up Oracle
to run the PeopleSoft application on HP9000 64 bit, such as layout of files,
init parms, initial and next extents, tuning parameters etc?

Any help is appreciated!

Willie 

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Set-up layout config to impl PeopleSoft on Oracle HP platform

2001-08-14 Thread Townsend Willie

Guru List,

Does anyone have any documentation or recommendations for setting up Oracle
to run the PeopleSoft application on HP9000 64 bit, such as layout of files,
init parms, initial and next extents, tuning parameters etc?

Any help is appreciated!

Willie 

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Multi-platform Editors - Was: Unix

2001-05-14 Thread Oweson Flynn

Hi Roland,

(DISCLAIMER - I have no interest in Pacemaker software, other than that Paul
has a good product)

I use an editor called CRiSP extensively - it is a GUI-based version of a
character based editor called Brief (from Underware), that got bought by
Borland (remember them ...).

It runs under Windows, Unix, Linux
It has lots and lots of features (including the ability to FTP a file from a
UNIX server, allow you to edit it locally, and then FTP it back, if you
really want to). But you could also edit the file directly on the server if
you wanted to.

It is also the only editor that I know that will allow you to highlight a
COLUMN, and then do regular expression changes on the column.  Unlimited
Undo's, file compares, extensible etc. etc.

Colouration of reserved words (including SQL) - very configurable -.
Pricing is extremely good as well (GBP 150.00 for Win/Nt), and he is
constantly working to improve it.  You can also buy locked or Floating
licenses.

Works well with your favourite complier to become an IDE (allows you to
compile from within the editor, picks up the output and displays the errors
and highlights the offending lines)

Go to www.pacemaker.co.uk and have a look - you can also download an
evaluation copy there.

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How can I modify a  Unix file in an other editor not using vi, for instance
I would like to use a Windows based editor?


Roland Sköldblom

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Moving database to another platform with GL app 10.7 Character mode

2001-02-01 Thread Bao Jenny

Hi List,

Currently, we are running Oracle Application 10.7 ( GL
and AP modules, character mode) + Oracle Database ..
all of them on one AIX box, so now we have plan to
move Oracle database to SUN Solaris, and still kept
Oracle application on old machine. I wonder about the
Oracle Application library (FND) on AIX can connect to
new database ? 

Please give me your advice about this situation and
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Thanks so much. 
Jenn



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