RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Happy Holidays





Some gifts are best left unwrapped ... you know what I mean ... (NO !!, you Sir ARE naughty indeed ...)


Happy Holidays
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But how long did it take to wrap??? :-)



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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread Lisa Corell Auerbach
Hi Stephen - you wrote -

 I'm not orawoman, so I won't plan on join a girls night out,   but I
hope there will be a list-wide gettogether with no gender discrimination.

I'm sure they will.  And anyway, I wouldn't object to men at orawoman
night, I just think it would be fun to have us (orawomen) get together.

After all, they let men in at ladies night at clubs, so why not at
orawoman night at IOUG?  No gender discrimination intended.

Lisa



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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Ruth G is definitely not a male  Guy H? who was a contributor on the
Oracle_l list used to sign as Guy Ruth H? is think.  I don't remember his
last name, but I think it began with H.

Ruth g
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 I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
 thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
 Again a big oops if incorrect.





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 Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.

 I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
 and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going. But
 I'll be there whether or not I present


 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
  dearly),
  working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
  can't
  help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
  preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
  them
  going to IOUG?
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
  (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
  female
  first names.
 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
  better
  than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
  and
  more women are answering questions here as well
 
 
  --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Rachel - you wrote -
  
I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
   male-centric than others.
   
  
   I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
  
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Come-on Ruth, you had the operation.  we know it.  you escaped to the dark
side.


-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Ruth G is definitely not a male  Guy H? who was a contributor on the
Oracle_l list used to sign as Guy Ruth H? is think.  I don't remember his
last name, but I think it began with H.

Ruth g
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:38 PM



 I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
 thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
 Again a big oops if incorrect.





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 Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.

 I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
 and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going. But
 I'll be there whether or not I present


 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
  dearly),
  working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
  can't
  help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
  preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
  them
  going to IOUG?
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
  (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
  female
  first names.
 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
  better
  than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
  and
  more women are answering questions here as well
 
 
  --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Rachel - you wrote -
  
I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
   male-centric than others.
   
  
   I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
  
   Lisa
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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Guy Ruth Hammond. who as it turns out is a friend of someone I now work
with here, so I do get to hear of him on occasion. I miss his recipes!


--- Ruth Gramolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ruth G is definitely not a male  Guy H? who was a contributor on
 the
 Oracle_l list used to sign as Guy Ruth H? is think.  I don't remember
 his
 last name, but I think it began with H.
 
 Ruth g
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:38 PM
 
 
 
  I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but
 I
  thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
  Again a big oops if incorrect.
 
 
 
 
 
  Rachel
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 Holidays!!
  Sent by:
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  12/20/2002
  02:28 PM
  Please respond
  to ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 
 
  from this list:
 
  Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.
 
  I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an
 alternate
  and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going.
 But
  I'll be there whether or not I present
 
 
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
   dearly),
   working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men)
 -
   can't
   help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman
 friends -
   preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any
 of
   them
   going to IOUG?
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
   from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
   (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
   female
   first names.
  
   not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
   better
   than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that
 more
   and
   more women are answering questions here as well
  
  
   --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rachel - you wrote -
   
 I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is
 less
male-centric than others.

   
I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman
 category.
   
Lisa
(now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)
   
   
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread John Kanagaraj
Yeah - I remember that Guy used to churn out _very_ yummy (and chocalately)
recipes once a week. So where is he now Rachel?

John

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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
he's still in England, just busy and no time for the list these days


--- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah - I remember that Guy used to churn out _very_ yummy (and
 chocalately)
 recipes once a week. So where is he now Rachel?
 
 John
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-23 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!




Indeed is Vey mutual . Like Fems too (more the merrier) . 

ha ha

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  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Happy Holidays!!
  No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I 
  love dearly), working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) 
  - can't help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends - 
  preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of them 
  going to IOUG? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Happy Holidays!! 
  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the 
  list (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names 
  that were obviously female first names. 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). 
  but better than it was a few years ago. What I really 
  like seeing is that more and more women are answering 
  questions here as well 
  --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  Hi Rachel - you wrote -I'm more interested in the 
  numbers to see if this field is less  male-centric 
  than others.
   I don't post very often, but I'm another in the 
  orawoman category.   
  Lisa  (now the DBA at Henrico County Public 
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-22 Thread Arn Klammer
But how long did it take to wrap???   :-)

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Speaking of house ... Congratulations !! 

Yesterday my wife and I celebrated our 5th wedding anniversary. I was
looking for what gift to give on a 5th anniversary. So my boss googled for a
while and said ... he found the gift and a nice gift as well. He says,
traditional gift is wood, so just give your wife the house you built.

That was easy ... no shopping involved and she already loves the gift.

Happy Holidays everyone !!
Raj
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Well I've got another excuse. We just moved into our newly constructed
house. I tell the kids that they get their own room for Christmas and they
just say, Oh Dad! So even though we're still living out of boxes I have to
got get more junk and put it in fancier boxes... very strange.



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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
'cause I've met her

--- Sony kristanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you know that Rachel ?
 
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  From:   Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:45 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:RE: Happy Holidays!!
  
  Ruth Gramolini is definitely female
  
  
  --- Weaver, Walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Perhaps you're thinking of Guy Ruth Hammond.
   
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   Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:38 PM
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   I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong
 but I
   thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
   Again a big oops if incorrect.
   
   
   
   

   
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   from this list:
   
   Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.
   
   I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an
   alternate
   and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are
 going.
   But
   I'll be there whether or not I present
   
   
   --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I
 love
dearly),
working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like
 men) -
can't
help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman
 friends
   -
preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are
 any
   of
them
going to IOUG?
   
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from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
(alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were
 obviously
female
first names.
   
not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
better
than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that
 more
and
more women are answering questions here as well
   
   
--- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is
 less
 male-centric than others.
 

 I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman
   category.

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 (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)


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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Stephen,

Unless you are doing one of the Expert Technical Sessions (otherwise
known as the mini-lessons) I'm not in contention as an alternate for
your slot :)

Rachel

--- Stephen Andert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lisa,  
 
 Good news.  
 
 REGISTER FOR LIVE! 2003 
 APRIL 27 - MAY 1
 ORLANDO, FLORIDA
 WALT DISNEY WORLD DOLPHIN HOTEL
 
 I'm not orawoman, so I won't plan on join a girls night out,   but
 I
 hope there will be a list-wide gettogether with no gender
 discrimination.  
 
 Rachel,  
 
 I hope you get in as an alternate, but I did get my form faxed back
 in
 time, so you can't have my slot grin.
 
 Stephen Andert
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/20/02 12:38PM 
 Not until it comes back to Orlando.  But when it does, I'll be there.
 
 
  
 I found the best way to deal with being in a nearly-all-male work
 situation
 is to become one of the guys.  Of course I am very much a tomboy so
 this
 came naturally to me.  This may not be the right way to go about it
 but
 it
 kept the working relationship very smooth.  The only problems were
 with
 men
 who couldn't handle a woman disagreeing with them. There have only
 been
 a
 few so far.
  
 That doesn't mean I don't thoroughly enjoy a girls' night out and a
 strong
 martini :)
  
 Lisa Koivu 
 Oracle Datababy Administrator 
 Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
 Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 
 
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:46 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
 dearly),
 working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
 can't
 help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
 preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
 them
 going to IOUG?  
 
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 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list 
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female
 
 first names. 
 
 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 
 more women are answering questions here as well 
 
 
 --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Hi Rachel - you wrote - 
  
   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less 
  male-centric than others. 
   
  
  I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category. 
  
  Lisa 
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-20 Thread Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)
But what you can start doing is painting, plastering, levelling concrete and
laying floors. 2 months in and the race is on to finish for Christmas. When
all of that's done I can start looking for my wife's Christmas present.
Hell, maybe I'll tell her that IS her present.

All the best for the holidays folks,

Mike


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you're a man. Genetically you can't start shopping until at LEAST 6 PM
on Christmas Eve.


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 Merry Christmas and/or Holly Happy-days to all.
 
 Man... I haven't even started my Christmas shopping yet. Sigh...
 
 
 Steve Orr,
 Still needing snow for a white Christmas (and skiing) in Montana...
 
 
 
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 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:31 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Kevin,
 
 Thanks to you (and also to Lisa) for offering to share your scripts.
 
 Every little bit helps.
 
 Cherie Machler -  close to leaving for vacation
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Happy Holidays






Speaking of house ... Congratulations !! 


Yesterday my wife and I celebrated our 5th wedding anniversary. I was looking for what gift to give on a 5th anniversary. So my boss googled for a while and said ... he found the gift and a nice gift as well. He says, traditional gift is wood, so just give your wife the house you built.

That was easy ... no shopping involved and she already loves the gift.


Happy Holidays everyone !!
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Well I've got another excuse. We just moved into our newly constructed house. I tell the kids that they get their own room for Christmas and they just say, Oh Dad! So even though we're still living out of boxes I have to got get more junk and put it in fancier boxes... very strange.


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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a guess
from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
obvious as to gender.

Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think there
are at least 10 women on the list 

I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
male-centric than others.


--- Panicker, Thankam S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for responding to my post on Oracle and Peoplesoft. I
 will be
 making the move this
 New Year. I wish I had found out about this List earlier. It is great
 to see
 people sharing their knowledge.
 Happy Holidays to every one!!
 
 Rachael, I have all my shopping done and gifts packed. :-)
 Wish we had a count of our kind on the list.(You know - orawoman
 kind.)
 
 Sumathy 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:35 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 I would agree with Joan  - we spend lots of time refreshing databases
 here.
 We were responsible for all of the application servers, web servers,
 process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was
 formed.
 That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the
 Oracle
 side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment here
 (along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
 opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a large
 replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I would
 also
 recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
 administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how
 Peoplesoft
 stores and uses metadata.As far as book recommendations the only
 decent
 book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by Darrell
 Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft.  We really
 do most
 of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of
 Peoplesoft.
 Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like any
 other
 Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft DBA,
 not a
 Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.
 
 You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc query
 access.:-)
 
 John Dailey
 Oracle DBA
 ING Americas - Application Services
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
   Joan Hsieh
 
   joan.hsieh@tuftsTo:   Multiple
 recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   .educc:   (bcc: John
 Dailey/NAC/ING-FSI-NA) 
   Sent by: Subject:  Re: Oracle
 and
 Peoplesoft 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
 
  
 
   12/19/2002 09:45
 
   AM
 
   Please respond to
 
   ORACLE-L
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Sumathy,
 
 It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular dba.
 Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components, peoplesoft
 application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic.. there
 are
 some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
 Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and
 another
 one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has a
 website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I
 feel
 like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
 beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
 oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
 poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production
 database
 is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases
 from
 production. so automate those scripts are very helpful.
 
 Joan
 
 Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:
 
  How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular
 database?
 Or
  in other words what all  extra tasks
  does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an
 Oracle
  DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?
 
  Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?
 
  I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.
 
  TIA
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-20 Thread Hand, Michael T

Ah yes. . . there's nothing quite like home construction/renovation projects
during the holidays to put the 'ell in jingle bells, aye.  Or as I once put
it:

'Twas the night before Christmas and all through our house not a
creature was stirring, 
the wall was blown out.  Lumber and plaster lay around in a heap,
electric and plumbing 
supplies were hip deep.  .  .  . 
[ Oracle instances were stuffed up the chimney with care. ]

Happy Holidays,
Mike

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


But what you can start doing is painting, plastering, levelling concrete and
laying floors. 2 months in and the race is on to finish for Christmas. When
all of that's done I can start looking for my wife's Christmas present.
Hell, maybe I'll tell her that IS her present.

All the best for the holidays folks,

Mike

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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Cherie_Machler

Rachel,

I suspect that there are many more than ten female subscribers to the list.

However, I'd have to agree that there are at least a dozen women who post
somewhat regularly.

Going to our local Oracle User's Group meeting, there are about 25% women
in attendance at the meeting when I look over the crowd.   I'm seeing a lot
more young women at the meetings lately.

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network


   
 
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I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a guess
from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
obvious as to gender.

Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think there
are at least 10 women on the list

I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
male-centric than others.


--- Panicker, Thankam S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for responding to my post on Oracle and Peoplesoft. I
 will be
 making the move this
 New Year. I wish I had found out about this List earlier. It is great
 to see
 people sharing their knowledge.
 Happy Holidays to every one!!

 Rachael, I have all my shopping done and gifts packed. :-)
 Wish we had a count of our kind on the list.(You know - orawoman
 kind.)

 Sumathy




 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:35 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 I would agree with Joan  - we spend lots of time refreshing databases
 here.
 We were responsible for all of the application servers, web servers,
 process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was
 formed.
 That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the
 Oracle
 side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment here
 (along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
 opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a large
 replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I would
 also
 recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
 administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how
 Peoplesoft
 stores and uses metadata.As far as book recommendations the only
 decent
 book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by Darrell
 Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft.  We really
 do most
 of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of
 Peoplesoft.
 Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like any
 other
 Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft DBA,
 not a
 Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.

 You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc query
 access.:-)

 John Dailey
 Oracle DBA
 ING Americas - Application Services
 Atlanta, GA










   Joan Hsieh

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 Dailey/NAC/ING-FSI-NA)
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 and
 Peoplesoft
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   12/19/2002 09:45

Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Lisa Corell Auerbach
Hi Rachel - you wrote -

 I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
male-centric than others.


I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.

Lisa
(now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)


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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Jared Still

It's quite a few more than that.

Reading the first 50 lines of the subscription roster,
11 of the subscribers have obviously female names.

Jared

On Friday 20 December 2002 06:04, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a guess
 from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
 obvious as to gender.

 Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think there
 are at least 10 women on the list

 I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
 male-centric than others.

 --- Panicker, Thankam S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks to all for responding to my post on Oracle and Peoplesoft. I
  will be
  making the move this
  New Year. I wish I had found out about this List earlier. It is great
  to see
  people sharing their knowledge.
  Happy Holidays to every one!!
 
  Rachael, I have all my shopping done and gifts packed. :-)
  Wish we had a count of our kind on the list.(You know - orawoman
  kind.)
 
  Sumathy
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:35 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
  I would agree with Joan  - we spend lots of time refreshing databases
  here.
  We were responsible for all of the application servers, web servers,
  process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was
  formed.
  That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the
  Oracle
  side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment here
  (along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
  opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a large
  replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I would
  also
  recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
  administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how
  Peoplesoft
  stores and uses metadata.As far as book recommendations the only
  decent
  book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by Darrell
  Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft.  We really
  do most
  of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of
  Peoplesoft.
  Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like any
  other
  Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft DBA,
  not a
  Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.
 
  You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc query
  access.:-)
 
  John Dailey
  Oracle DBA
  ING Americas - Application Services
  Atlanta, GA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Joan Hsieh
 
joan.hsieh@tuftsTo:   Multiple
  recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.educc:   (bcc: John
  Dailey/NAC/ING-FSI-NA)
Sent by: Subject:  Re: Oracle
  and
  Peoplesoft
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
12/19/2002 09:45
 
AM
 
Please respond to
 
ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi Sumathy,
 
  It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular dba.
  Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components, peoplesoft
  application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic.. there
  are
  some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
  Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and
  another
  one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has a
  website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I
  feel
  like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
  beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
  oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
  poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production
  database
  is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases
  from
  production. so automate those scripts are very helpful.
 
  Joan
 
  Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:
   How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular
 
  database?
  Or
 
   in other words what all  extra tasks
   does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an
 
  Oracle
 
   DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?
  
   Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?
  
   I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.
  
   TIA
   Sumathy Thankam
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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I was just going, off the top of my head, from names I remember seeing
post. And I was hoping I was wrong!

:)

--- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It's quite a few more than that.
 
 Reading the first 50 lines of the subscription roster,
 11 of the subscribers have obviously female names.
 
 Jared
 
 On Friday 20 December 2002 06:04, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
  I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a
 guess
  from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
  obvious as to gender.
 
  Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think
 there
  are at least 10 women on the list
 
  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
  male-centric than others.
 
  --- Panicker, Thankam S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks to all for responding to my post on Oracle and Peoplesoft.
 I
   will be
   making the move this
   New Year. I wish I had found out about this List earlier. It is
 great
   to see
   people sharing their knowledge.
   Happy Holidays to every one!!
  
   Rachael, I have all my shopping done and gifts packed. :-)
   Wish we had a count of our kind on the list.(You know - orawoman
   kind.)
  
   Sumathy
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:35 AM
   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
   I would agree with Joan  - we spend lots of time refreshing
 databases
   here.
   We were responsible for all of the application servers, web
 servers,
   process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was
   formed.
   That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the
   Oracle
   side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment
 here
   (along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
   opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a
 large
   replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I
 would
   also
   recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
   administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how
   Peoplesoft
   stores and uses metadata.As far as book recommendations the
 only
   decent
   book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by
 Darrell
   Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft.  We
 really
   do most
   of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of
   Peoplesoft.
   Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like
 any
   other
   Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft
 DBA,
   not a
   Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.
  
   You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc
 query
   access.:-)
  
   John Dailey
   Oracle DBA
   ING Americas - Application Services
   Atlanta, GA
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 Joan Hsieh
  
 joan.hsieh@tuftsTo:  
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 ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Hi Sumathy,
  
   It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular
 dba.
   Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components,
 peoplesoft
   application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic..
 there
   are
   some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
   Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and
   another
   one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has
 a
   website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I
   feel
   like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
   beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
   oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
   poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production
   database
   is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases
   from
   production. so automate those scripts are very helpful.
  
   Joan
  
   Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:
How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular
  
   database?
   Or
  
in other words what all  extra tasks
does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for
 a an
  
   Oracle
  
DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?
   
Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?
   
I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.
   
TIA
Sumathy Thankam
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Saira Somani
Rachel,

I'm in that category too. Newest Oracle DBA/Sys Admin on board at a 3rd
Party Logistics company - Hospital Logistics Inc.

And I admit! I'm a lurker :-)

Saira Somani
Hospital Logistics Inc.

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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!





Walt occasionally gets in touch with his feminine side so you can count him. :-)


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Importance: High



I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a guess
from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
obvious as to gender.


Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think there
are at least 10 women on the list 


I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
male-centric than others.





Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
(alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously female
first names. 

not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but better
than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more and
more women are answering questions here as well


--- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
 male-centric than others.
 
 
 I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
 Lisa
 (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)
 
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Panicker, Thankam S.
Well that is nice to hear - it is difficult to find out from names - I
always thought
that Cary Millsap was a female  .. :)

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from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
(alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously female
first names. 

not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but better
than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more and
more women are answering questions here as well


--- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
 male-centric than others.
 
 
 I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
 Lisa
 (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)
 
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!





At this point of the discussion I'd just like to come out of the closet and let everyone know that I am, indeed, 100% male.

Thanks,
--Walt Weaver
 Bozeman, Montana


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Rachel,


I suspect that there are many more than ten female subscribers to the list.


However, I'd have to agree that there are at least a dozen women who post
somewhat regularly.


Going to our local Oracle User's Group meeting, there are about 25% women
in attendance at the meeting when I look over the crowd. I'm seeing a lot
more young women at the meetings lately.


Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
Gelco Information Network



 
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I'm sure if Jared had time, energy or inclination, he could do a guess
from the membership list. However, some names are not intuitively
obvious as to gender.


Not counting lurkers, since I can't tell who they are, I think there
are at least 10 women on the list


I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
male-centric than others.



--- Panicker, Thankam S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for responding to my post on Oracle and Peoplesoft. I
 will be
 making the move this
 New Year. I wish I had found out about this List earlier. It is great
 to see
 people sharing their knowledge.
 Happy Holidays to every one!!

 Rachael, I have all my shopping done and gifts packed. :-)
 Wish we had a count of our kind on the list.(You know - orawoman
 kind.)

 Sumathy




 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:35 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



 I would agree with Joan - we spend lots of time refreshing databases
 here.
 We were responsible for all of the application servers, web servers,
 process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was
 formed.
 That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the
 Oracle
 side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment here
 (along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
 opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a large
 replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I would
 also
 recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
 administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how
 Peoplesoft
 stores and uses metadata. As far as book recommendations the only
 decent
 book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by Darrell
 Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft. We really
 do most
 of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of
 Peoplesoft.
 Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like any
 other
 Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft DBA,
 not a
 Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.

 You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc query
 access. :-)

 John Dailey
 Oracle DBA
 ING Americas - Application Services
 Atlanta, GA










 Joan Hsieh

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 12/19/2002 09:45

 AM

 Please respond to

 ORACLE-L









 Hi Sumathy,

 It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular dba.
 Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components, peoplesoft
 application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic.. there
 are
 some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
 Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and
 another
 one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has a
 website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I
 feel
 like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
 beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
 oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
 poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production
 database
 is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases
 from
 production. so automate those scripts are very helpful.

 Joan

 Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:
 
  How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular
 database?
 Or
  in other words what all extra tasks
  does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an
 Oracle
  DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?
 
  Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?
 
  I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.
 
  TIA
  Sumathy Thankam
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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Thomas Day

Happy holidays to all!  Working for a large manufacturing company in the
past, I got in the habit of taking the week between Christmas and New Years
off.

Since I work mostly in development databases I've been able to cultivate
that habit.


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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Is Jared sure? 
I surprised Gaja when I met him in person at the 2000 IOUG Live! 
;) 

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from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
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first names. 

not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but better
than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more and
more women are answering questions here as well


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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Paula_Stankus
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!





No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love dearly), working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) - can't help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends - preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of them going to IOUG? 

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from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
(alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously female
first names. 


not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but better
than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more and
more women are answering questions here as well



--- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
 male-centric than others.
 
 
 I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
 Lisa
 (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)
 
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Webber Valerie H
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!



I'm an "Orawoman" (I love that term) and a mother of 3 
children (twin Kindergarteners and a 4th grader.)

I'm a lurker too but usually 20 people have already 
answered the question by the time I read the posts. I must admit too that this 
list has helped me stay one step ahead of my male IT co-workers! Sorry that I 
won't be at IOUG...

Happy Holidays!
Val

Valerie H. WebberManagement Systems Designers, Inc Database 
Administrator[EMAIL PROTECTED]704-566-5321 


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  No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I 
  love dearly), working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) 
  - can't help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends - 
  preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of them 
  going to IOUG? 
  -Original Message- From: 
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  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Happy Holidays!! 
  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the 
  list (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names 
  that were obviously female first names. 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). 
  but better than it was a few years ago. What I really 
  like seeing is that more and more women are answering 
  questions here as well 
  --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  Hi Rachel - you wrote -I'm more interested in the 
  numbers to see if this field is less  male-centric 
  than others.
   I don't post very often, but I'm another in the 
  orawoman category.   
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!



Not 
until it comes back to Orlando. But when it does, I'll be there. 


I 
found the best way to deal with being in a nearly-all-male work situation is to 
become one of the guys. Of course I am very much a tomboy so this came 
naturally to me. This may not be the right way to go about it but it kept 
the working relationship very smooth. The only problems were with men who 
couldn't handle a woman disagreeing with them. There have only been a few so 
far.

That 
doesn't mean I don't thoroughly enjoy a girls' night out and a strong martini 
:)


Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Datababy 
Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
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  - can't help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends - 
  preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of them 
  going to IOUG? 
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  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the 
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  that were obviously female first names. 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). 
  but better than it was a few years ago. What I really 
  like seeing is that more and more women are answering 
  questions here as well 
  --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  Hi Rachel - you wrote -I'm more interested in the 
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   I don't post very often, but I'm another in the 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
April 27-May 2, 2003

you can register now. :)


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 Not until it comes back to Orlando.  But when it does, I'll be there.
  
  
 I found the best way to deal with being in a nearly-all-male work
 situation
 is to become one of the guys.  Of course I am very much a tomboy so
 this
 came naturally to me.  This may not be the right way to go about it
 but it
 kept the working relationship very smooth.  The only problems were
 with men
 who couldn't handle a woman disagreeing with them. There have only
 been a
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 That doesn't mean I don't thoroughly enjoy a girls' night out and a
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 No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
 dearly),
 working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
 can't
 help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
 preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
 them
 going to IOUG?  
 
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 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list 
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female 
 first names. 
 
 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better 
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and 
 more women are answering questions here as well 
 
 
 --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Bob Metelsky
Where and when is this going to be? 

A url maybe??

Or is it a womans only convention

;-)
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
Again a big oops if incorrect.




   
 
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Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.

I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going. But
I'll be there whether or not I present


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 dearly),
 working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
 can't
 help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
 preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
 them
 going to IOUG?

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female
 first names.

 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 more women are answering questions here as well


 --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
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  I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Gary Chambers
 Well that is nice to hear - it is difficult to find out from names - I
 always thought that Cary Millsap was a female .. :)

Don't be so hard on yourself.  There are probably several people that
don't know Mohini, Jayashree, Vidya, and Gavoury are female names.

...and Sowmyanarayanan?  Forget it!!  ;)

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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!





Perhaps you're thinking of Guy Ruth Hammond.


--Walt Weaver
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I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
Again a big oops if incorrect.





 
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from this list:


Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.


I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going. But
I'll be there whether or not I present



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
 dearly),
 working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
 can't
 help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
 preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of
 them
 going to IOUG?

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female
 first names.

 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 more women are answering questions here as well


 --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
  male-centric than others.
  
 
  I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
  Lisa
  (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools)
 
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Happy Holidays!!





Me thinks you are Wrong ... I'd like to go, but no budget.


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I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
Again a big oops if incorrect.





 
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from this list:


Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.


I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going. But
I'll be there whether or not I present



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
 dearly),
 working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
 can't
 help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
 preferably ones that both work and are raising children. Are any of
 them
 going to IOUG?

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female
 first names.

 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 more women are answering questions here as well


 --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Rachel - you wrote -
 
   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
  male-centric than others.
  
 
  I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
  Lisa
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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Lisa Corell Auerbach
Hi Rachel - you wrote -

 But  I'll be there whether or not I present

I'm presenting (on a soft topic this year - management and project
management - I supervise a team of 6 at HCPS.)  And Mary Gable in Hampton VA
was talking about going, but she didn't put in to present this year.

I think we should have an official Orawomen get-together one night.

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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Ruth Gramolini is definitely female


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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:38 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
 thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
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 from this list:
 
 Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.
 
 I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an
 alternate
 and today is the cutoff for the speakers to confirm they are going.
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 I'll be there whether or not I present
 
 
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  dearly),
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  can't
  help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends
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  preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any
 of
  them
  going to IOUG?
 
  -Original Message-
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
  (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
  female
  first names.
 
  not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
  better
  than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
  and
  more women are answering questions here as well
 
 
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I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
www.ioug.org


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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale

Ah Yes, that is exactly who I was thinking of.  Sorry Ruth Gramolini


   
 
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I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
Again a big oops if incorrect.








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Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.


I don't know if I am presenting or not, I was accepted as an alternate
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I'll be there whether or not I present





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 preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
 them
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
 (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
 female
 first names.

 not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
 better
 than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
 and
 more women are answering questions here as well


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   I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
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  I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category.
 
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Re: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I think we can manage several variations of list meetings... one
orawoman and one where we let the men join us as well :)


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 was talking about going, but she didn't put in to present this year.
 
 I think we should have an official Orawomen get-together one night.
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Stephen Andert
Lisa,  

Good news.  

REGISTER FOR LIVE! 2003 
APRIL 27 - MAY 1
ORLANDO, FLORIDA
WALT DISNEY WORLD DOLPHIN HOTEL

I'm not orawoman, so I won't plan on join a girls night out,   but I
hope there will be a list-wide gettogether with no gender
discrimination.  

Rachel,  

I hope you get in as an alternate, but I did get my form faxed back in
time, so you can't have my slot grin.

Stephen Andert


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/20/02 12:38PM 
Not until it comes back to Orlando.  But when it does, I'll be there. 

 
I found the best way to deal with being in a nearly-all-male work
situation
is to become one of the guys.  Of course I am very much a tomboy so
this
came naturally to me.  This may not be the right way to go about it but
it
kept the working relationship very smooth.  The only problems were with
men
who couldn't handle a woman disagreeing with them. There have only been
a
few so far.
 
That doesn't mean I don't thoroughly enjoy a girls' night out and a
strong
martini :)
 
Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Datababy Administrator 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 


 

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No offense guys, but having only small boy children (whom I love
dearly),
working in a 90% male IT support organization (cause I like men) -
can't
help feeling like what I really need now is some good woman friends -
preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any of
them
going to IOUG?  

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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 


from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list 
(alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously female

first names. 

not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but better

than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more and

more women are answering questions here as well 


--- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi Rachel - you wrote - 
 
  I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less 
 male-centric than others. 
  
 
 I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman category. 
 
 Lisa 
 (now the DBA at Henrico County Public Schools) 
 
 
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RE: Happy Holidays!!

2002-12-20 Thread Sony kristanto
How do you know that Rachel ?

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 Ruth Gramolini is definitely female
 
 
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  -Original Message-
  Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:38 PM
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  I have never met RUTH and I apologize in advance if I am wrong but I
  thought I remember a post long ago indicating Ruth G is male?
  Again a big oops if incorrect.
  
  
  
  
   
  
  Rachel
  
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  from this list:
  
  Ruth Gramolini and April Wells are going, they are presenting.
  
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  alternate
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  But
  I'll be there whether or not I present
  
  
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   dearly),
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   can't
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  -
   preferably ones that both work and are raising children.  Are any
  of
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   going to IOUG?
  
   -Original Message-
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   from what Jared tells me, in the first 50 names on the list
   (alphabetical?) he found 11 out of 50 names that were obviously
   female
   first names.
  
   not the best statistic (1/5 of an admittedly small sample). but
   better
   than it was a few years ago. What I really like seeing is that more
   and
   more women are answering questions here as well
  
  
   --- Lisa Corell Auerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rachel - you wrote -
   
 I'm more interested in the numbers to see if this field is less
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I don't post very often, but I'm another in the orawoman
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Re: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Cherie_Machler

Kevin,

Thanks to you (and also to Lisa) for offering to share your scripts.

Every little bit helps.

Cherie Machler -  close to leaving for vacation
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: Happy Holidays





Merry Christmas and/or Holly Happy-days to all.


Man... I haven't even started my Christmas shopping yet. Sigh...



Steve Orr,
Still needing snow for a white Christmas (and skiing) in Montana...




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Thanks to you (and also to Lisa) for offering to share your scripts.


Every little bit helps.


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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you're a man. Genetically you can't start shopping until at LEAST 6 PM
on Christmas Eve.


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 Thanks to you (and also to Lisa) for offering to share your scripts.
 
 Every little bit helps.
 
 Cherie Machler -  close to leaving for vacation
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 Gelco Information Network
 
 
  
 
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange
 or when we are really bad ... 8 am on Christmas Day at the local
convenience store that never seems to close 

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you're a man. Genetically you can't start shopping until at LEAST 6 PM
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RE: Happy Holidays

2002-12-19 Thread Orr, Steve
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Well I've got another excuse. We just moved into our newly constructed house. I tell the kids that they get their own room for Christmas and they just say, Oh Dad! So even though we're still living out of boxes I have to got get more junk and put it in fancier boxes... very strange.



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you're a man. Genetically you can't start shopping until at LEAST 6 PM
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 Man... I haven't even started my Christmas shopping yet. Sigh...
 
 
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