RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Sherman, Paul R.

Jared,

I agree with you, except for when MTS is being used.

Thank you,

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread BALA,PRAKASH (Non-HP-USA,ex1)

Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So could you elaborate why
you use 'kill -9'.

TIA
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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work consistently.

kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no prisoners!', whereas
your garden variety kill allows a process to call for a priest, eat a last
meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too much time.

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Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So could you elaborate why
you use 'kill -9'.

TIA
Prakash

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

IRC, evn with MTS, a busy session should have the PID of the shared server 

associated with it in v$process, and only one session at a time can use 
the
shared server.

Killing it should effect only the session using the SS at that time, and 
MTS
should spawn another.

Nonetheless, I don't recommend doing it.  :)

Jared






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Jared,

I agree with you, except for when MTS is being used.

Thank you,

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It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread mkb

I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

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 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment.  This will 
help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
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 could you elaborate why
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 TIA
 Prakash
 
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
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 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

Kevin,

Too much work!

Just use:   kill -9 -1

;)  you better read the man page first on this one. 

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I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment. 
This will help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
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 thakns
 
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread Jared . Still

try 'kill -l' where the -l is an ell as in -list.

Jared






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I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
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 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:38 PM
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 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
 transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread kkennedy

Yeah, ok, I forgot that in my youth the number one was typed by using the key 
immediately right of the K and the number zero was typed by using Shift and the key 
between I and P.  I really meant kill -l using the letter to the right of the K, not 
that numeric symbol on the top row of the keyboard.  Been a long time since I used 
kill -9 -1 -- I got out of the habit during my time on HPUX.

And if anyone wants to try Jared's approach, be sure to log in as the oracle user on a 
critical production system and have your resume up to date 8-)

Kevin Kennedy
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Kevin,

Too much work!

Just use:   kill -9 -1

;)  you better read the man page first on this one. 

Jared





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I found this once but can't seem to find the full details at the moment. 
This will help though (Solaris8):

kill -l  # lists all kill signal names

kill -l KILL  # lists numeric equivalent for signal name KILL

and then if you wish to obsess on the subject:

for x in $(kill -l)
do
print $x $(kill -l $x)
done

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation 

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill -1,
kill -9 etc) can be found.

I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try something
less drastic first, even though I've never run into
problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).

thanks

mkb

(hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
 consistently.
 
 kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
 prisoners!', whereas
 your garden variety kill allows a process to call
 for a priest, eat a last
 meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
 much time.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
 could you elaborate why
 you use 'kill -9'.
 
 TIA
 Prakash
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:38 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 It could be that pmon is rolling back the
 transaction.
 
 It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
 it up, which sometimes
 happens when killing an active transaction. 
 
 I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
 NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
 Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
 session in Oracle.
 
 If your session has still not been cleaned up,
 you'll understand my
 position, as you will now have to bounce your
 database.
 
 Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
 so, and an unreasonable
 amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
 cleanup, then you likely
 need to bounce the database.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
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 for
 kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
 I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
 roll
 back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
 indeed the case via some system tables?
 
 thakns
 
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-16 Thread mkb

Thanks.

That clarifies things.  Time to look into this some
more.

mkb

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 I was wondering where a list of kill signals (kill
 -1,
 kill -9 etc) can be found.
 
 I've always used kill -9 but I'd rather try
 something
 less drastic first, even though I've never run into
 problems using kill -9 pid before.  man pages don't
 seem to list the signals (Solaris 7).
 
 thanks
 
 mkb
 
 (hmmmcan you say mutating thread...)
 
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Because 'kill' and 'kill -15' don't seem to work
  consistently.
  
  kill -9 says 'kill with extreme prejudice, take no
  prisoners!', whereas
  your garden variety kill allows a process to call
  for a priest, eat a last
  meal and smoke a cigarette, all of which take too
  much time.
  
  Jared
  
  
  
  
  
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  Jared, I always kill the Oracle session first. So
  could you elaborate why
  you use 'kill -9'.
  
  TIA
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  It could be that pmon is rolling back the
  transaction.
  
  It could also be that pmon is never going to clean
  it up, which sometimes
  happens when killing an active transaction. 
  
  I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on
  NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
  Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the
  session in Oracle.
  
  If your session has still not been cleaned up,
  you'll understand my
  position, as you will now have to bounce your
  database.
  
  Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if
  so, and an unreasonable
  amount of time has passed for pmon to do its
  cleanup, then you likely
  need to bounce the database.
  
  Jared
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Hi. 
  
  Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
  transaction. Oracle came back with session marked
  for
  kill and the status of the session is now
 Killed.
  I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to
  roll
  back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this
 is
  indeed the case via some system tables?
  
  thakns
  
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RE: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-15 Thread Khedr, Waleed

You should see some activity in v$transaction.

Regards,

Waleed

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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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Re: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-15 Thread Jack Silvey

Gene,

Run this repeatedly - used_ublk will reduce as it
rolls back - after it is finished the session should
dissappear.

column sql_text word_wrapped

select vs.sid, vs.serial#,vt.used_ublk, vt.start_time,
vs.username, vs.osuser, substr(vsq.sql_text,1,75)
sql_text
from v$transaction vt, v$session vs, v$sqlarea vsq
where vt.ses_addr = vs.saddr
and vsq.address(+) = vs.sql_address
/

hth,

Jack


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Re: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-15 Thread Jared . Still

It could be that pmon is rolling back the transaction.

It could also be that pmon is never going to clean it up, which sometimes
happens when killing an active transaction. 

I am a strong advocate of using 'orakill' on NT/Win2k and 'kill -9' on 
Unix to kill the process, rather than killing the session in Oracle.

If your session has still not been cleaned up, you'll understand my
position, as you will now have to bounce your database.

Check to see if the session is holding a lock, if so, and an unreasonable
amount of time has passed for pmon to do its cleanup, then you likely
need to bounce the database.

Jared






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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

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Re: How do I check whether a rollback activity is going on

2002-07-15 Thread Jared . Still

Sorry, forgot to answer your question during all my ranting.

select s.osuser
  ,s.username
  ,s.sid
  ,r.segment_name
  ,t.space
  ,t.recursive
  ,t.noundo
  ,t.used_ublk
  ,t.used_urec
  ,t.log_io
  ,t.phy_io
  ,substr(sa.sql_text,1,200) txt
from v$session s,
 v$transaction t,
 dba_rollback_segs r,
 v$sqlarea sa
where s.taddr=t.addr
and   t.xidusn=r.segment_id(+)
and   s.sql_address=sa.address(+);

Jared





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Hi. 

Here is my situation. I have killed an ORacle
transaction. Oracle came back with session marked for
kill and the status of the session is now Killed.
I presume that the reason is that Oracle needs to roll
back the changes made. Can I confirm whether this is
indeed the case via some system tables?

thakns

gene

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