RE: TOAD vs. SQL Navigator
I'm a dedicated TOAD user, so would steer you in that direction. We used SQL Navigator years ago, before we moved to TOAD. SQL Navigator is not a bad product; and I haven't kept up on the new releases. I'm sure it's grown a lot since I last used it. But overall, I just prefer TOAD's user interface and way of doing things. TOAD has a very active and dedicated user community, and a beta program that's open to any registered TOAD owner. If you suggest a new feature in the beta program, it may literally appear in the next beta version (released twice a week). All of TOAD's developers are active participants on the list. TOAD is very much a user-driven product. (I don't see any equivalent activity for SQL Navigator.) But it should be easy to decide for yourself. Both TOAD and SQL Navigator have fully-functional limited-time demos available on their web site (www.quest.com). Download them both and have at it! Dave -Original Message- From: Gorden-Ozgul, Patricia E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: TOAD vs. SQL Navigator I'm looking for information about the differences between Quest's TOAD and SQL Navigator. Specifically, which would be better for an Oracle web application developer. I am more interested in development features; I am less interested in the DBA functions, although they are nice to have. Any information would be helpful to me in making an educated choice. Thanks. Patricia Gorden-Ozgul [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gorden-Ozgul, Patricia E INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TOAD vs. SQL Navigator
Just a brief word to everyone who took the time to provide their 2-cents. Thank you. Pat Gorden-Ozgul -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm a dedicated TOAD user, so would steer you in that direction. We used SQL Navigator years ago, before we moved to TOAD. SQL Navigator is not a bad product; and I haven't kept up on the new releases. I'm sure it's grown a lot since I last used it. But overall, I just prefer TOAD's user interface and way of doing things. TOAD has a very active and dedicated user community, and a beta program that's open to any registered TOAD owner. If you suggest a new feature in the beta program, it may literally appear in the next beta version (released twice a week). All of TOAD's developers are active participants on the list. TOAD is very much a user-driven product. (I don't see any equivalent activity for SQL Navigator.) But it should be easy to decide for yourself. Both TOAD and SQL Navigator have fully-functional limited-time demos available on their web site (www.quest.com). Download them both and have at it! Dave -Original Message- From: Gorden-Ozgul, Patricia E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: TOAD vs. SQL Navigator I'm looking for information about the differences between Quest's TOAD and SQL Navigator. Specifically, which would be better for an Oracle web application developer. I am more interested in development features; I am less interested in the DBA functions, although they are nice to have. Any information would be helpful to me in making an educated choice. Thanks. Patricia Gorden-Ozgul [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gorden-Ozgul, Patricia E INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gorden-Ozgul, Patricia E INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Toad vs. SQL Navigator
Look at TORA, for the cost ($0.00) it is a nice tool ... not way too many features ... but good ones only ... Look it up at http://www.globecom.net/tora/ Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art ! *2 This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you. *2
RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator
Why purchase TOAD over SQL Navigator? They both do basically the same thing, right??? You have direct access to Toadman Jim himself. You have input as to what you want to see in the product. Bugs get addressed *immediately*. New beta versions at least weekly. And Jim himself is one helluva human being. See for yourself: http://www.egroups.com/list/toad And the EZSQL author (my apologies to him, I forget his name) is on the TOAD team, if that means anything to ya. From some people I've talked to at Quest, the users of each are fanatically loyal. I'm no different, I guess. Good luck! Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 09:56 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, We are looking at purchasing TOAD or SQL Navigator from Quest. I think they have purchase EZSQL also which I liked(good and cheap). I guess there goal is to eliminate the competition. I have some experience with free version of TOAD but not with SQL Navigator. Can someone share there pros/cons,why purchase one over the other, etc. if they have used both of these products? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator
Our developers use both products. Light Oracle developers, including some power end-users, get by just fine with TOAD. High level folks, those into heavy PL/SQL, swear by SQL Nav. Gary Weber Senior DBA Charles Jones, LLC||Superior Information Services, LLC 609-530-1144, ext 5529 -Original Message- T (Richard) Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, We are looking at purchasing TOAD or SQL Navigator from Quest. I think they have purchase EZSQL also which I liked(good and cheap). I guess there goal is to eliminate the competition. I have some experience with free version of TOAD but not with SQL Navigator. Can someone share there pros/cons,why purchase one over the other, etc. if they have used both of these products? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gary Weber INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator
Take a look at PL/SQL Developer from All Around Automations, much better than both of them, and a lot cheaper. But Toad is kind of a better product for the money (750 vrs 5000). Navigator is severely overpriced. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, We are looking at purchasing TOAD or SQL Navigator from Quest. I think they have purchase EZSQL also which I liked(good and cheap). I guess there goal is to eliminate the competition. I have some experience with free version of TOAD but not with SQL Navigator. Can someone share there pros/cons,why purchase one over the other, etc. if they have used both of these products? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator
Title: RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator We have sqlnav here at my site, it's cool and all but pretty expensive. I really liked ezsql and am sad to see it go away (damn shame). I have a question, since it's no longer available for sale how illegal would it be for me to obtain a key from someone to use it? I mean I'd love to pay the 100 bucks for it, but there seems no way to get it and I don't want to pay for toad. Lets say some independent record company/band makes a great album and then 2 years later the band breaks up and the company dissolves. Since there are no means for me to purchase the album anymore, is it illegal to get a copy from a friend to enjoy it? Instead of sqlnav I'd recommend getting pl/sql developer from Allround Automations www.allroundautomations.nl. I first heard about it from Christopher Spence and when I checked it out myself it does everything that sqlnav will do. The great thing is that it's only 150 bucks! I'm sure there might be a couple of features in SQLNav that pl/sql developer lacks but IMHO it definitely wouldn't justify the price difference. Later, Ivan -Original Message- From: Cale, Rick T (Richard) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Toad vs SQL Navigator Hi All, We are looking at purchasing TOAD or SQL Navigator from Quest. I think they have purchase EZSQL also which I liked(good and cheap). I guess there goal is to eliminate the competition. I have some experience with free version of TOAD but not with SQL Navigator. Can someone share there pros/cons,why purchase one over the other, etc. if they have used both of these products? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator
Title: RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator Ah... You are correct that Golden and PLEDIT are not tools that compare to TOAD or SQLNAV but that does not mean that there are not excellent tools... For years I was a die hard SQL*Plus fan... A SQL*Plus bigot you might say... I avoiding tools like TOAD and stuck to the command line... A couple years ago, I used PLEDIT for some light PL/SQL work and it did a great job... Sure, TOAD or SQLNAV are much better ( debuggers etc ) but they are overkill for a hacker like myself... But, on my latest contract I did quite a bit more PL/SQL than usual... And, I decided that I REALLY liked PLEDIT... So, I gave Golden a try... And, after using Golden for a few weeks, I can not think of life without it... I am still a command line guy and Golden is like a improved SQL*Plus... I *love* the workspace feature... The run sheet options ( whole sheet, here to end of sheet, current line ) that operate with function keys... The favorites pulldown... Support for DBMS_OUTPUT... And the support for SQL*Plus commands ( like spool )... Golden is a query tool... Not a all in one tool like TOAD... But, IMHO, it is a very good query tool for those SQL*Plus bigots like myself... :-) Tim PS - Plus, since I had to buy it myself, I loved the price... :-) -Original Message- From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 5:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Toad vs SQL Navigator I just downloaded and testdrove Golden. Egad. Not even close to any of the Quest tools. There's so much it's lacking that I don't have the time to make a list. If you're gonna use that, just download the freeware version of TOAD from http://www.toadsoft.com So much better with so many more features and usability, IMHO. Of course, I'm using a fully registered version (as well as a beta). :) My $.02 Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 15:35 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My answer is always the same... Neither! :-) Instead, try Golden from Benthic Software (www.benthicsoftware.com). It's easy to try it without buying it, just use the annoyware. Also try PLEDIT as a PL/SQL development environment. It serves our purposes very well, and at 35$ it completely demolishes it's competition for cost/benefit. Paul -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
