Re: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
On Wednesday 09 July 2003 09:59, Matthew Zito wrote: Plus the syntax is much more flexible (read: lazier) than C, so it saves time. Interestingly enough, there are organizations that are starting to decide that the perl's syntactical flexibility is a negative - look at Yahoo's choice of PHP for its long-term application platform. They said, among other things, that they were concerned about enforcing coding standards in a Perl environment. Weenies. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works fine if the line is 997 characters or less. I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997 charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading? I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998 Is this a bug? original_kic_file_handle := utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998); utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998); John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Hi! Desc utl_file shows: FUNCTION FOPEN RETURNS RECORD Argument Name TypeIn/Out Default? -- --- -- ID BINARY_INTEGER OUT DATATYPE BINARY_INTEGER OUT LOCATION VARCHAR2IN FILENAME VARCHAR2IN OPEN_MODE VARCHAR2IN MAX_LINESIZE BINARY_INTEGER IN DEFAULT Starting from 8.0.5 or so the max linesize was 32767 chars, but the default max linesize has remained same (1023) So use FOPEN with max_linesize. Btw, I found this answer from metalink with first search: utl_file line size Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:24 PM I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works fine if the line is 997 characters or less. I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997 charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading? I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998 Is this a bug? original_kic_file_handle := utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998); utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998); John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
John,
UTL_FILE is one of the worst designed functions I've ever tried to use.
In my opinion, it's a major design flaw to use the newline character ('\n')
as a packet delimiter. If UTL_FILE gets input lines that are too long (too
many bytes between '\n' characters), you'll get an error. If you have short
lines in your input (like Heading\nSubHeading\nLine1\nLine2\n...), then
you'll have lots of nearly empty packets flying across your network, which
creates a horrible performance problem for the program using UTL_FILE, and
for others who have to compete against the traffic.
Check out the trcfiled.pl part of Sparky (www.hotsos.com/products/sparky).
It's open source Perl that does file transfers (and a few other things) on
the order of 100x faster than UTL_FILE. It's a free download.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic 101 in Dallas, Washington, Denver, Sydney
- Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas
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I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine
It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works
fine if the line is 997 characters or less.
I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997
charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading?
I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998
Is this a bug?
original_kic_file_handle :=
utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998);
utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998);
John
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RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Thought I already was??? I set max_linesize to 998. I have also tried with 32767. utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',32767); Still no joy -Original Message- Sent: 09 July 2003 14:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi! Desc utl_file shows: FUNCTION FOPEN RETURNS RECORD Argument Name TypeIn/Out Default? -- --- -- ID BINARY_INTEGER OUT DATATYPE BINARY_INTEGER OUT LOCATION VARCHAR2IN FILENAME VARCHAR2IN OPEN_MODE VARCHAR2IN MAX_LINESIZE BINARY_INTEGER IN DEFAULT Starting from 8.0.5 or so the max linesize was 32767 chars, but the default max linesize has remained same (1023) So use FOPEN with max_linesize. Btw, I found this answer from metalink with first search: utl_file line size Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:24 PM I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works fine if the line is 997 characters or less. I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997 charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading? I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998 Is this a bug? original_kic_file_handle := utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998); utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998); John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
seems like alot of long time DBAs prefer using perl over pro*c to do data loads and
unloads. is it just because its simpler? or is it more robust? or other reasons?
From: Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2003/07/09 Wed AM 09:44:25 EDT
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Subject: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
John,
UTL_FILE is one of the worst designed functions I've ever tried to use.
In my opinion, it's a major design flaw to use the newline character ('\n')
as a packet delimiter. If UTL_FILE gets input lines that are too long (too
many bytes between '\n' characters), you'll get an error. If you have short
lines in your input (like Heading\nSubHeading\nLine1\nLine2\n...), then
you'll have lots of nearly empty packets flying across your network, which
creates a horrible performance problem for the program using UTL_FILE, and
for others who have to compete against the traffic.
Check out the trcfiled.pl part of Sparky (www.hotsos.com/products/sparky).
It's open source Perl that does file transfers (and a few other things) on
the order of 100x faster than UTL_FILE. It's a free download.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic 101 in Dallas, Washington, Denver, Sydney
- Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas
- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
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Dunn
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I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine
It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works
fine if the line is 997 characters or less.
I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997
charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading?
I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998
Is this a bug?
original_kic_file_handle :=
utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998);
utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998);
John
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Re: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Hi! Actually I read your post more thorougly, it seems that you have specified max linesize already. But this var_current_line, how is this one defined? If it's reduce it's size to varchar2 (to 998) as well. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:24 PM I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works fine if the line is 997 characters or less. I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997 charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading? I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998 Is this a bug? original_kic_file_handle := utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998); utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998); John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Simpler, portability
Richard
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seems like alot of long time DBAs prefer using perl over pro*c to do data loads and
unloads. is it just because its simpler? or is it more robust? or other reasons?
From: Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2003/07/09 Wed AM 09:44:25 EDT
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
John,
UTL_FILE is one of the worst designed functions I've ever tried to use.
In my opinion, it's a major design flaw to use the newline character ('\n')
as a packet delimiter. If UTL_FILE gets input lines that are too long (too
many bytes between '\n' characters), you'll get an error. If you have short
lines in your input (like Heading\nSubHeading\nLine1\nLine2\n...), then
you'll have lots of nearly empty packets flying across your network, which
creates a horrible performance problem for the program using UTL_FILE, and
for others who have to compete against the traffic.
Check out the trcfiled.pl part of Sparky (www.hotsos.com/products/sparky).
It's open source Perl that does file transfers (and a few other things) on
the order of 100x faster than UTL_FILE. It's a free download.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic 101 in Dallas, Washington, Denver, Sydney
- Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas
- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
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I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard engine
It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997 characters. It works
fine if the line is 997 characters or less.
I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is longer than 997
charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading?
I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and utl_file.read_line to 998
Is this a bug?
original_kic_file_handle :=
utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998);
utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998);
John
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RE: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Those things, and its got a much better return on investment in terms of
extensibility. As a systems chappie, I started out writing things in
shell scripts, small C programs, etc. But I noticed that every time I
did anything that provided information (ran a report, data aggregation,
log mining, etc.), people always wanted it extended - Oh, that's a
really neat bandwidth report, Matt. Now could you make it into a web
application? Oh, that web app is neat - could you have it page people
when the current bandwidth utilization exceeds a certain amount?, etc.
etc. Well, a lot of those things are much harder in C or shell scripts
than they are in Perl. So I just started writing everything in Perl if
I thought it was going to be run more than a few times - it just makes
it much easier to grow your scripts to add functionality you never
initially anticipated.
Plus the syntax is much more flexible (read: lazier) than C, so it saves
time. Interestingly enough, there are organizations that are starting
to decide that the perl's syntactical flexibility is a negative - look
at Yahoo's choice of PHP for its long-term application platform. They
said, among other things, that they were concerned about enforcing
coding standards in a Perl environment.
Thanks,
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Subject: RE: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
Simpler, portability
Richard
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seems like alot of long time DBAs prefer using perl over
pro*c to do data loads and unloads. is it just because its
simpler? or is it more robust? or other reasons?
From: Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2003/07/09 Wed AM 09:44:25 EDT
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: utl_file on Redhat Linux Oracle 9 standard engine
John,
UTL_FILE is one of the worst designed functions I've ever tried to
use.
In my opinion, it's a major design flaw to use the newline
character
('\n') as a packet delimiter. If UTL_FILE gets input lines that are
too long (too many bytes between '\n' characters), you'll get an
error. If you have short lines in your input (like
Heading\nSubHeading\nLine1\nLine2\n...), then you'll have lots of
nearly empty packets flying across your network, which creates a
horrible performance problem for the program using
UTL_FILE, and for
others who have to compete against the traffic.
Check out the trcfiled.pl part of Sparky
(www.hotsos.com/products/sparky). It's open source Perl
that does file
transfers (and a few other things) on the order of 100x faster than
UTL_FILE. It's a free download.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com
Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic 101 in Dallas, Washington, Denver, Sydney
- Hotsos Symposium 2004, March 7-10 Dallas
- Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
-Original Message-
Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I have a problem with utl_file in Oracle 9 on Linux, standard
engine
It does not seem to want to read lines longer than 997
characters. It
works fine if the line is 997 characters or less.
I get a utl_file.write_error exception if the line is
longer than 997
charcaters!!! Why a write error when I am reading?
I have set the line size in the utl_file.FOPEN and
utl_file.read_line
to 998
Is this a bug?
original_kic_file_handle :=
utl_file.FOPEN(var_transfer_dir,var_file_name||'.KIC','r',998);
utl_file.get_line(original_kic_file_handle,var_current_line,998);
John
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