RE: Form question

2003-06-17 Thread Ofer Harel
gracias

Ofer

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bell ;

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst/DBA
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
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Good morning,

This a question for Oracle form and report
I want to add a beep or sound to a form when a certain action occurs, e.g.,
result of a query. 
How can I make a beep (or sound) from within an Oracle Form.

thanking you in advance

Ofer Harel
DBA team
Barak ITC
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RE: ORA600 [2103] [0] [0] [1] [900] -- Wrapping up

2003-06-17 Thread Hatzistavrou John
Dear All,

ThAnks for all your comments and advise.
We have found what was the cause of this. 
Just before we put tablespaces in hot backup mode we mount some nfs drives. Then 
having placed the tbs in hot backup we use a cp command to copy the *.dbf files to 
nfs. Also the copy of the controlfile binary is also put to nfs. As you might have 
guessed the NFS drive caused the error due to some delays.

Kind Regards,


Hatzistavrou Yannis

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So, did you get the same error when writing the backup to /tmp as well ?
And also if you delete the previous backup and create a backup without the 
REUSE ?

If the problem is really a Control File Enqueue timeout, is the server 
really that busy ?
How about trying the controlfile backup at a time when the server is less 
busy  --- to
verify the busyness being the cause of the Control File Enqueue

Hemant

At 11:44 PM 12-06-03 -0800, you wrote:

It is a local filesystem



Kind Regards,



Hatzistavrou Yannis


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Subject: Re: ORA600 [2103] [0] [0] [1] [900]




1.  Try writing the backup to another location
alter database backup controlfile to '/tmp/cntrlfilebk.dbf'

2.  Try it again with the reuse clause

3.  Is the file system '/hot_backup/siebelp1'   local or NFS mounted ?

Hemant

At 02:45 AM 12-06-03 -0800, you wrote:


Dear All,

I have encountered the following message during alter database backup 
controlfile to  reuse after a hot backup.

We have opened a tar but still waiting. The strange think is that our 
Oracle versions range from 8.1.7.3 to 8.1.7.4 which according to what I 
have read resolved this problem. Another strange fact is that this 
happened concurrently on three clusters of Sun Solaris 8.

Attached please find extracts from alert and trace files

a) alert

hread 1 advanced to log sequence 41062

Thu Jun 12 02:33:43 2003

ARC1: Beginning to archive log# 1 seq# 41061

Thu Jun 12 02:33:43 2003

   Current log# 2 seq# 41062 mem# 0: 
 /be/prod/crm_oss/oracle/siebel/redo_logs/sbl_redo_2A.log

   Current log# 2 seq# 41062 mem# 1: 
 /be/prod/crm_oss/oracle/siebel/redo_logs/sbl_redo_2B.log

Thu Jun 12 02:33:44 2003

Completed: alter database backup controlfile to trace

Thu Jun 12 02:33:44 2003

alter database backup controlfile to '/hot_backup/siebelp1/control01.bak' 
reuse

Thu Jun 12 02:49:10 2003

Errors in file 
/be/prod/crm/siebel/oracle/siebelp1/admin/bdump/siebelp1_arc1_16563.trc:

ORA-00600: Message 600 not found; No message file for product=RDBMS, 
facility=ORA; arguments: [2103] [0] [0] [1] [900]

Thu Jun 12 02:49:12 2003

Errors in file 
/be/prod/crm/siebel/oracle/siebelp1/admin/bdump/siebelp1_arc1_16563.trc:

ORA-00600: Message 600 not found; No message file for product=RDBMS, 
facility=ORA; arguments: [2103] [0] [0] [1] [900]

Thu Jun 12 02:49:12 2003

ARC1: terminating instance due to error 600

Instance terminated by ARC1, pid = 16563

Thu Jun 12 02:49:47 2003

Starting ORACLE instance (normal)

b) trace

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production

ORACLE_HOME = /oracle_home/product/8.1.7

System name:SunOS

Node name:  apps01-n01

Release:5.8

Version:Generic_108528-21

Machine:sun4u

Instance name: siebelp1

Redo thread mounted by this instance: 1

Oracle process number: 21

Unix process pid: 16563, image: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ARC1)

*** 2003-06-12 02:49:08.500

*** SESSION ID:(137.947) 2003-06-12 02:49:08.463

TIMEOUT ON CONTROL FILE ENQUEUE

mode=X, type=0, wait=1, eqt=900

===

SYSTEM STATE



System global information:

 Number of NUMA instances : 1

  processes: base 9010fe44, size 250, cleanup 90110864

 allocation: free sessions(0) 90174724, free calls(0) 1

 control alloc errors: 0 (process), 0 (session), 0 (call)

 system statistics:

  0  47997 logons cumulative

  0   1052 logons current

 01649040 opened cursors cumulative

  0  41528 opened cursors current

 01311839 user commits

  0   7201 user rollbacks

  0   30519546 user calls

 0   22909587 recursive calls

  01827715 recursive cpu usage

  0 1553098488 session logical reads

 0  0 session stored procedure space

  06209740 CPU used when call started

 0  143359357 CPU used by this session

   8236  791247589 session connect time

  8236  791247589 process last non-idle time

   1020  304666384 session uga memory

Has anybody encountered such problem before? How can it be resolved?

Kind Regards,

Hatzistavrou Yannis

Database Administrator

SchlumbergerSema


WG: RedHat AS Dev edition

2003-06-17 Thread Kulev, Milen


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Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't expected
this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's with
a login and password. 
Ron


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/03 05:09PM 
Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread  about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
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RE: How to stop script

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi Chen,

My solution will be about the same with previous DBA guru

I assume u r using Window (if is unix you just need to change a little bit here and 
there)

I write this script for you.

+save as imp.sql++
SET HEAD OFF
SET FEEBACK OFF
SET PAUSE OFF
SET VERIFY OFF
SET LINESIZE 250

SPOOL 'C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat'
SELECT 'imp username/password@' || name || ' full=y file=bla bla other parameter=bla 
bla bla log=mypath\log'
from v$database
where name = 'TEST';

SPOOL OFF

-- host chmod u+x C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat  (if you using unix this will prevent you 
from bug cause by your umask)
-- host C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat-- uncomment this if you ready to do the 
import

-- host del C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat-- uncomment this if your 
C:\temp\~dynamic_imp.bat is look ok



++=

+save as imp.bat***

sqlplus -s someone_can_do_select_v$database/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

+++


You can add alot of fancy stuffs but the concept is about like that


Sinardy


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I have a script and can be run on commandline like: 
 
 sqlplus usrname/password@TEST @import.sql 
 
 
However, I want to check database name at the beginning of import.sql. I knew 
select name from v$database can obtain database name. But how can I stop the 
script if I found it is not TEST database? In import.sql, it is like: 
 
drop user A cascade;
create user A ; 
host imp A/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=a.dmp full=yes; 
// some PL/SQL ...
 
Thanks! 
 
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Re: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2003.06.17 01:04, Richard Ji wrote:
I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java application
running on an Application Server?
Yes it is. Application server is a Solaris8 box (SUN 450).

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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Regis Biassala
Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
faced the same issue here

Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
handled by the app or the database...
Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
connection pooling...


Regis

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I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
application
running on an Application Server?

Richard Ji

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I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
then 
everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed 
normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of patience.
I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it 
will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the 
string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
shared 
server connection.
Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version is
8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered with 
listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly 
little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no 
timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet
and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it with
a
JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.



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Re: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
   I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
   program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which
uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
   connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
faced the same issue here
Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
handled by the app or the database...
Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
connection pooling...
Regis

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
application
running on an Application Server?
Richard Ji

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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
then
everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of patience.
I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it
will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
shared
server connection.
Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version is
8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered with
listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly
little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no
timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet
and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it with
a
JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.


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RE: RedHat AS Dev edition

2003-06-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I ordered a copy 4 weeks ago, never received it.

Red Hat, USPS, or Canada Post?

I'll wait a couple more weeks...

Patrice
(Canada)

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Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't expected
this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's with
a login and password. 
Ron


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/03 05:09PM 
Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread  about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
Milen Kulev 
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Re: AW: RedHat AS Dev edition still available today

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Milen,
 The offer is still available at
https://rhn.redhat.com/network/sales/index.pxt 
 you must have a RedHat network login, Easy to get on line.
Ron

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Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't
expected this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's
with
a login and password. 
Ron


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Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread 
about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen - I'll add what I know, but it won't add much.

When the Java people say they are doing connection pooling, that almost
certainly means they are using an application server. This is the beast on
which to focus your attention. Start by finding out which species it is.
There are in my experience, a variety of settings related to AS connection
pooling. It is easy to get those settings wrong, which can produce a variety
of bad effects on the database end. They can create too many sessions, or
too few.
   In my simple view, MTS and connection pooling do the same thing. I don't
use MTS, so I'm assuming here. But I can see that using both MTS and
connection pooling at the same time might produce bad effects. 
   The other thing to remember about the thin client is that it does not use
Net8. It does not rely on a tnsnames.ora file on the client (application
server in this case). It connects directly to the listener. One possibility
to test would be to switch to the thick client. That may be better in your
situation.
   Good luck and keep us posted. We DBAs are all facing this
webbified/Javafied/.netified world and we've got to stick together.

Dennis Williams
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OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which

uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here
 
 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...
 
 
 Regis
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
 is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
 then
 everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
 normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of
patience.
 I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it
 will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
 string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
 shared
 server connection.
 Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version
is
 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered
with
 listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly
 little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no
 timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB
Ethernet
 and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it
with
 a
 JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.
 
 
 
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recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Good morning all,

Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth


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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Goulet, Dick
Mladen,

I've found MTS to be a blessing and a curse at the same time no matter what 
language (C, ASP, JAVA, etc...) is being used.  The biggest problem with MTS is the 
number of idle shared servers that you have at any point in time.  When you connection 
request is processed by the database server any statements that need execution land in 
the shared pool's request queue.  If you have say 100 connections on the database with 
10 shared servers it only takes a 10% population of active users to exhaust your pool. 
 Yes Oracle will start additional servers up to MTS_MAX_SERVERS but don't expect it to 
respond rapidly.  More like a snail that a rocket.  You've got two options that I can 
safely recommend:

1) configure MTS_MAX_SERVERS = MTS_MIN_SERVERS = the maximum number of 
anticipated connections.
2) configure MTS_MAX_SERVERS = 2X MTS_MIN_SERVERS = 75% of the maximum number 
of anticipated connections

Option 3 is more fluid, but also takes more effort to maintain the desired 
performance.  It means programming a process or job that will occasionally wake up, 
evaluate the load on the database's shared server population  alter the mts_servers 
setting of the database dynamically.  It can be done, I do it, and is very successful.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and then 
everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed 
normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of patience.
I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it 
will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the 
string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a shared 
server connection.
Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version is
8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered with 
listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly 
little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no 
timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet
and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it with a
JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.



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Retreiving data from SQL Server

2003-06-17 Thread Smith, Ron L.
Can anyone give me an example of an SQL statement that will retrieve data
from SQL Server.
What is the best way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Regis Biassala
We add:
1. Application (Java)
Using a JDBC Connection Pooling (CP)feature...

2. Database
Oracle in MTS, pooling or not pooling enabled

This was not good for us...so we kept the Java pooling side of the app and
Oracle configured to run in dedicated mode.

We'got a XML policy file which disables JDBC connection pooling for our
application and gives the DBA a choice to configure a 
MTS...

So in our case we two scenarios:

1. DB(MTS) and app(without CP) this is OK

2. DB(dedicated) and app(with CP)

Regis



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OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which

uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here
 
 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...
 
 
 Regis
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
 is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
 then
 everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
 normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of
patience.
 I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it
 will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
 string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
 shared
 server connection.
 Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version
is
 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered
with
 listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly
 little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no
 timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB
Ethernet
 and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it
with
 a
 JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.
 
 
 
 --
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RE: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Gogala, Mladen
With a standby database, either physical or logical (Oracle 9i) you get 
a failower machine, typically much smaller then the original one. The
problem
is that there isn't much else you can do on that machine. In case of a
logical
standby, you can use it as a report server, but then again, you are
duplicating
your disks and storing the same database in two different places. It is much

easier to administer then RAC because you don't have DLM to contend with and
hardwarewise, it is cheaper (no clustering software, no high speed
interconnects
no RAC licenses).
With RAC, you get much more. You get several nodes accessing the same
database,
thus providing you with the transparent failover and much greater
survivability 
of the database. Also, you can use all nodes of a RAC configuration for
transactions.
With RAC, nodes ship to each other the current version of a block as well as
the
read consistent images of a block (constructed from rollback segments) so
partitioning
the application functionally is no longer necessary. Also, your database is
not stored
in two different places, so there is no problem with the consistency.

As for one or more databases, it depends on your budget and your business
needs.
The most survivable configuration would include a central RAC database and
smaller
departmental RAC databases which would deliver the data to the central
database by 
using multimastering replication.That would also include something like BCV
database
to have up as a readonly copy during maintenance times. Now we're talking
eight figures.
The business has to take a good look at itself and decide which data
absolutely must 
survive and which data can be temporarily offline in order for the business
to survive.

There is a known story about the WTC branch office of Chase Manhattan, which
was switched 
to a remote copy and which didn't lose a single transaction despite the fact
that the
branch office itself was completely destroyed. That kind of survivability
costs money and
business must decide whether it needs it or not.

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Hi Dear listers,

I'd like to ask your opinion about our possible new project.
overview; install fatwire for the whole community for web application. no 
single point of failure, sun servers, oracle.
We have more than 10 divisions currently( different department, like arts, 
dental, enginerring..etc), but we want the flexibility to add more unit as

the environment changes and grows.
Question 1: database option; what is the pros and cons about physical
standby 
database, logical staandby or RAC? I think the answer should be RAC, right?
question 2: Among the questions is whether this is a series of databases for

each unit or a central database that is shared by all?

I am new to this area, I would appreciate any input informantion.

Thanks again,

Joan

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Re: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread John Shaw



Refer to Note:139775.1 - see if this helps out - basically it says to 
configure the jdbc driver so that it has to use dedicated server - using MTS is 
the problem.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2003 7:24:50 AM 

OK. Let me get some things straight:a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of 
those vile creatures called DBAs. I don't program. I 
troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people 
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software 
which uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is 
gone.b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in 
the connect string, the darned thing still connects as an 
MTS connection.c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original 
question.On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote: Richard is 
right...If ur Java application uses it own connection pooling...then do 
not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We faced the same 
issue here  Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather 
connection pooling should handled by the app or the database... 
Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application 
connection pooling...   Regis  
-Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   I used to 
seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to a 
dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem. But JDBC Thin and 
MTS worked fine on my Solaris box. Not sure with HP-UX. Is 
the Java application running on an Application Server? 
 Richard Ji  -Original Message- Sent: 
Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L   I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my 
ignorance. JDBC application is facing very strange performance problems 
during connect. Every now and then everything appears to be hung 
and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed normally but with the elevated 
blood pressure and serious lack of patience. I was told that JDBC has 
it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it will start it's own 
dedicated server connection. It seems though that the string 
"SRVR=DEDICATED" has been ignored and that users are acquiring a 
shared server connection. Does anybody in this group have any 
experience with JDBC and MTS? Version is 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 
with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered with listeners on all 4 nodes 
for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly little material on the 
Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no timeouts can be seen 
from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet and I would be 
very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it with a 
JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though. 
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IOUG Live 2003

2003-06-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: IOUG Live 2003





Does anyone know when we (we-couldn't-go-to-conference types) get access to conference papers or download them?


I had sent an email to address on homepage, but it has been only 2+ weeks of no reply.
TIA
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Re: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Day

Do you need the CREATE DATABASE ... script or the scripts to create all
the database objects.  If it's the latter and you have an export, import
that into an IFILE and remove all the REMs.  That should give you the
tablespaces, tables, and indexes.  You'll have to do some manual
formatting.



   

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Good morning all,

Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth


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RE: Retreiving data from SQL Server

2003-06-17 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
You must put double quotes around column names in select and where clauses and it is 
VERY case sensitive.  Note the following query;

select concontainer from [EMAIL PROTECTED] where conID = 1;

if you tried this with the field of conid it would fail.  It's a pain in the butt 
that is how it works.  Be sure to look at the table structures on SQL Server to get 
the proper case of the field names.
Hope this helps.

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Can anyone give me an example of an SQL statement that will retrieve data
from SQL Server.
What is the best way to do this?

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AQ, RAC and delay

2003-06-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: AQ, RAC and delay





A colleague casually mentioned that in RAC, the test to de-queue an AQ set-up from BOTH instances didn't succeed. The side where we were enqueuing was able to see queued messages faster than the 'other' side. About 7-8 seconds ... that got me thinking ... is this an effect of MCPD which defaults to like 7 seconds?

Do you use AQ in RAC and enqueue/dequeue on both nodes? What is your experience?


ps: mcpd - max commit propagation delay
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RE: exchange partition in 9.2

2003-06-17 Thread Gurelei
Arup and Jacques:

thanks for your help. 

The command we are executing is alter table exchange
partition ... with table .. include indexes. We have
also a PK on each of the tables (local index on a
partitioned table). Go global indices. We have tried
the same command with novalidate and the results
were the same.

Any thougths?
--- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Did you say alter table exchange partition ...
 validate or alter table exchange partition ...
 novalidate? If you say novalidate then Oracle will
 sort the exchange table to make sure that you are
 not creating duplicate rows for the PK constraint.
 There is a Metalink note on that.
 Does the table have a PK enforced by a locally
 partitioned unique index? Any global indexes?
 What options did you have on the exchange partition
 statement?
 
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  We are having an interesting issue with the
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  partition command in our shop. We are running
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  9202 on AIX 5l. The exchange partition command
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  to take about 1 sec (or less) in our old
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  (oracle 81 Dynix 4.3.3). Now the same operation
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  about a minute and creates a ton of IO. an Oracle
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  said that this has to do something with the way
  exchange partition now treats primary and unique
 keys.
  Recently however a DBA on my team did 4 exchanges
 in a
  row between the same two tables. First one took
 about
  45s and did a lot of IO. next one took almost no
 time
  and no IO (and it did move the data), the next one
  -
  again 45s and IOs, the fourth one - no time again.
  Does any one has any experience with this issue
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  may be can shed some light on it.
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RE: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
See comments below

RF

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One browser to bring them all and into the darkness bind them 
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 Hi Dear listers,

 I'd like to ask your opinion about our possible new project.
 overview; install fatwire for the whole community for web application.
 no single point of failure, sun servers, oracle.
 We have more than 10 divisions currently( different department, like
 arts, dental, enginerring..etc), but we want the flexibility to add 
 more unit as the environment changes and grows.

Question 1: database option; what is the pros and cons about physical
standby database, logical staandby or RAC? I think the answer should be RAC,
right?

You are asking the question without yet really providing the requirements. 

The standby database (logical or physical) is there to meet disaster
recovery requirements, *NOT* HA requirements. It's need is defined by your
SLA's with regards to how much down time can I have, do I need a remote
site, do I need to be able to revert to a previous image of my database,
etc...etc... For some environments, offsite backups are perfectly
satisfactory in this regard, at other sites, you have a hot offsite
location, where you run dataguard (standby). So, you need to define your
needs before you ask the question.

Specifically regarding logical standby databases, they are a great idea but
in my mind they are still new enough (and I've seen a bugs enough) that I
don't trust them yet for mission critical application failover. I might
consent to using one in combination with at least one physical standby if
needs and resources allowed. Still, for right now, if my requirements
dictated a standby database, I'd go physical.

RAC, OTOH, is there to meet HA requirements, not DR requirements (unless you
can configure a long distance RAC cluster which I have yet to see work
really well yet). RAC is an added cost option to Oracle, with it's own set
of headaches that may or may not be worth your time and money. Again, it
depends on your needs, budget and SLA's. If you need four 9's uptime, then
RAC may well be the way to go. If you have a rather stable system, and your
users can stand an outage, then perhaps you do not need RAC. Again, you must
define the requirements first, then look for the solutions.


 question 2: Among the questions is whether this is a series of 
 databases for each unit or a central database that is shared by all?
My personal rule about this is that if a given application is going to
largely share data with another existing application, and there are no good
reasons to separate them into their own databases (for example wildly
different SLA's with regards to HA or DR), then I will simply use the same
database. This avoids problems with disparate data issues (and saves a bit
of memory and CPU). 

However if the application is self-contained, or if it uses data feeds from
several systems (which is much more frequent in my experience) then it goes
into it's own database and we have to decide how we are going to feed it
data.

HTH!!!

Robert



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Anyone successfully installed 9ias on AIX 4.3.3 ?

2003-06-17 Thread Louis BROUILLETTE
Hi list,

Is there someone out there who successfully installed 9ias (9.0.2.0.1) on 
AIX 4.3.3 ?

If yes, were you able to meet all the pre-requisites (OS patches, java 
version, ...) ?

My installation fails in the configuration tools (dbca).  I always get a 
Lost contact message.  My sys admin could not get his hands on some OS 
patches (vacpp.dax.adt, vacpp.vb.adt) and our java version is newer than 
the one listed in the pre-requisites (we have build ca131-20021102 instead 
of cal131-20020821).

Any ideas ???

Louis Brouillette
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RE: Retreiving data from SQL Server

2003-06-17 Thread Goulet, Dick
Dave,

You also need to put double quotes around table names as they conform to the 
same rules as columns.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
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You must put double quotes around column names in select and where clauses and it is 
VERY case sensitive.  Note the following query;

select concontainer from [EMAIL PROTECTED] where conID = 1;

if you tried this with the field of conid it would fail.  It's a pain in the butt 
that is how it works.  Be sure to look at the table structures on SQL Server to get 
the proper case of the field names.
Hope this helps.

Dave

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Can anyone give me an example of an SQL statement that will retrieve data
from SQL Server.
What is the best way to do this?

Thanks!
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Re: How to stop script

2003-06-17 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi

You can stop the script by using the line

whenever sqlerror exit rollback

and then generating an error by using an exception in a PL/SQL block as
follows:

oracle:jupiter cat imp.sql
whenever sqlerror exit rollback
declare
cursor c_db is
select name from v$database;
lv_db c_db%rowtype;
no_database exception;
wrong_database exception;
pragma exception_init(no_database,-5101);
pragma exception_init(wrong_database,-5102);
begin
open c_db;
fetch c_db into lv_db;
if c_db%notfound then
close c_db;
raise no_database;
else
if lv_db.name'TEST' then
close c_db;
raise wrong_database;
end if;
end if;
close c_db;
dbms_output.put_line('Running on database : '||lv_db.name);
exception
when no_database then
dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: could not find database');
raise_application_error(-20100,'ERROR - no database');
when wrong_database then
dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: wrong database');
raise_application_error(-20101,'ERROR - wrong
database');
when others then
dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: unknown error');
raise_application_error(-20101,'ERROR - unknown error');
end;
/

select user from sys.dual;

-- end of script imp.sql

then run it as follows

SQL @imp
declare
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-20101: ERROR - wrong database
ORA-06512: at line 29


Disconnected from Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.0.0 -
Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.0.0 - Production
oracle:jupiter

i added the select user from sys.dual to show the script stops
processing.

hope this helps

kind regards

Pete

 
However, I want to check database name at the beginning of import.sql. I knew 
select name from v$database can obtain database name. But how can I stop the 
script if I found it is not TEST database? In import.sql, it is like: 
 
drop user A cascade;
create user A ; 
host imp A/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=a.dmp full=yes; 
// some PL/SQL ...
 
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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Jack van Zanen
Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but


Start the GUI DBCA (NO don't shoot), go through the all the motions and at
the end choose generate scripts only.

Jack







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Good morning all,

Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth


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Re: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini
I got the answer, thanks anyway.  
Ruth
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 Good morning all,
 
 Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
 disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
 these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
 crunch.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Ruth
 
 
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Re: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Ruth,
 If you have the DataBee tool (available free )
http://www.cool-tools.co.uk You can take an export and then the
commands are available to recreate your tables and tablespaces.
Ron
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Do you need the CREATE DATABASE ... script or the scripts to create
all
the database objects.  If it's the latter and you have an export,
import
that into an IFILE and remove all the REMs.  That should give you the
tablespaces, tables, and indexes.  You'll have to do some manual
formatting.



   
   
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Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox
have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to
recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a
time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth


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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Lee
Well ... here is some generic stuff for you to edit.  This is from 8.1.x,
but I think it will still (with an edit or two) get you a running database
in 9.2.x

connect / as sysdba
startup nomount

create database CRCT2
maxinstances 8
maxlogfiles  32
character set US7ASCII
datafile
   '/u09/oradata/CRCT2/system_01.dbf'  size   200M
logfile
   GROUP 1
   ('/z01/oradata/CRCT2/redo_01a.log'
   ,'/z02/oradata/CRCT2/redo_01b.log') size 50M
,  GROUP 2
   ('/z01/oradata/CRCT2/redo_02a.log'
   ,'/z02/oradata/CRCT2/redo_02b.log') size 50M
,  GROUP 3
   ('/z01/oradata/CRCT2/redo_03a.log'
   ,'/z02/oradata/CRCT2/redo_03b.log') size 50M
,  GROUP 4
   ('/z01/oradata/CRCT2/redo_04a.log'
   ,'/z02/oradata/CRCT2/redo_04b.log') size 50M
;

--

connect / as sysdba
REM * add or subtract to the following as desired
@?/rdbms/admin/catalog.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/catproc.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/catexp.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/catblock.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/catparr.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/catrep.sql
@?/rdbms/admin/utlrp.sql

REM * Create additional rollback segment in SYSTEM before creating
tablespace.
REM *
connect / as sysdba

REM * Need a non-system rollback segment for a while.
create rollback segment r0 tablespace system
storage (initial 16k next 16k minextents 2 maxextents 20);
alter rollback segment r0 online;

REM * Create a tablespace for rollback segments.
create tablespace RBS datafile
   '/u09/oradata/CRCT2/rbs_01.dbf'  size 1000M
default storage (
   initial  1M
   next  1M
   pctincrease0
   minextents 20
   maxextents   unlimited
);


REM * Create a tablespace for temporary segments.
create tablespace TEMP datafile
   '/u09/oradata/CRCT2/temp_01.dbf' size 1000M
default storage (
   initial 1M
   next1M
pctincrease  0
   minextents   1
   maxextents   unlimited
)
TEMPORARY;

REM * Create a tablespace for database tools.
create tablespace TOOLS datafile
   '/u09/oradata/CRCT2/tools_01.dbf'   size 200M
default storage (
   initial  16k
   next 16k
pctincrease  0
   minextents   1
   maxextents   unlimited
);

REM * Create a tablespace for miscellaneous database user activity.
create tablespace USERS datafile
   '/u09/oradata/CRCT2/user_01.dbf' size 100M
default storage (
   initial  16k
   next 16k
pctincrease  0
   minextents   1
   maxextents   unlimited
);

REM * Create rollback segments.
create rollback segment r01 tablespace rbs storage (
 initial 1M
   next  1M
   minextents  20
   maxextents  unlimited
   optimal 20m
);

create rollback segment r02 tablespace rbs storage (
 initial 1M
   next  1M
   minextents  20
   maxextents  unlimited
   optimal 20m
);

create rollback segment r03 tablespace rbs storage (
 initial 1M
   next  1M
   minextents  20
   maxextents  unlimited
   optimal 20m
);

create rollback segment r04 tablespace rbs storage (
 initial 1M
   next  1M
   minextents  20
   maxextents  unlimited
   optimal 20m
);

alter rollback segment r01 online;
alter rollback segment r02 online;
alter rollback segment r03 online;
alter rollback segment r04 online;

REM * Since we've created and brought online more rollback segments,
REM * we no longer need the rollback segment in the SYSTEM tablespace.
alter rollback segment r0 offline;
drop rollback segment r0;

alter user sys identified by yeehaa;
alter user system identified by yeehaa;

REM

--
REM Run the following from SQLPLUS
REM connect system/yeehaa
REM @/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.7/sqlplus/admin/pupbld.sql
REM alter user sys temporary tablespace temp;
REM alter user system default tablespace tools temporary tablespace temp;
REM alter user dbsnmp default tablespace tools temporary tablespace temp;
REM alter user outln default tablespace tools temporary tablespace temp;
REM grant sysoper,sysdba to system;
REM grant sysoper,sysdba to sys;
REM alter user dbsnmp identified by yeehaa;
REM alter user outln identified by yeehaa;
REM

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ruth Gramolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:09 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: recreating a create database file
 
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i 
 sandbox have
 disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something 
 to recreate
 these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am 
 somewhat of a time
 crunch.
 
 Thanks in advance,
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Re: AW: RedHat AS Dev edition

2003-06-17 Thread mkb
Just musing but...

Are'nt Oracle and Red Hat missing a great opportunity 
here on building more momentum for Oracle on Linux
especially RAC?

Why charge anything for the Dev of AS edtition?  

Missed opportunities...

mohammed

--- Kulev, Milen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Thanks for the answer Ron,
 the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed
 anymore ;(.
 I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great
 offer- I didn't expected this offer to be pulled
 so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to
 get this software.
 
 Best Regards
 Milen Kulev
 
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 Von: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juni 2003 18:20
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 Betreff: Re: RedHat AS Dev edition
 
 
 Melin,
  Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev
 edition was pulled
 last week some time. If on the buy it page you see
 the RedHat AS
 Developers edition you can still purchase it and
 download the ISO's with
 a login and password. 
 Ron
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/03 05:09PM 
 Hallo list,
  
 I would like to play a little bit with RAC and
 decided to download
 RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there
 was a thread  about
 this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the
 link

http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/
  doesn't
 offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
  
 Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ?
 Where could I find RH
 AS  Dev Edition ?
  
 Any help will be appreciated.
  
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Re: RMAN FILESPERSET

2003-06-17 Thread Ruth Gramolini
You have the maxpiecesize set to 2048.  It will fill the backup piece and
then start another.  Have the datafile sized changed alot from one day to
the next?

Ruth
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 I'm a bit confused by the default for filesperset.  I ran the following
yesterday 

 run
 {
 allocate channel c1 device type sbt format 'df_%t_%s_%p'
maxpiecesize=2048M
 PARMS=SBT_LIBRARY=/opt/oracle/dbserver/9.0.1/lib/libobk.so,
 ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/tdpo.opt);
 backup database;
 backup current controlfile;
 release channel c1;
 }

 There were 245 datafiles in the database.  RMAN made the following backup
sets

BS_KEY COUNT(B.FILE#)
 -- --
   9623 63
   9727 64
   9810 64
   9892 35
   9893  4
   9894  4
   9895  6
   9896  5
--
 sum   245


 As I understand it the default for filesperset is the lesser of 64 or the
number of input files / the number of channels.
 As there was only one channel I would have expected  3 backup sets of 64
files and one of 53 channels.

 Today I ran  against  the same target database

 run
 {
 allocate channel c1 device type sbt format 'df_%t_%s_%p'
maxpiecesize=2048M
 PARMS=SBT_LIBRARY=/opt/oracle/dbserver/9.0.1/lib/libobk.so,
 ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/tdpo.opt);
 allocate channel c2 device type sbt format 'df_%t_%s_%p'
maxpiecesize=2048M
 PARMS=SBT_LIBRARY=/opt/oracle/dbserver/9.0.1/lib/libobk.so,
 ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/tdpo.opt);
 backup database skip readonly;
 backup current controlfile;
 release channel c1;
 release channel c2;
 }

 There are 92 read write datafiles.  I would have expected the job to be
divided into two backup sets with 46 files each.

 Instead I got

 BS_KEY COUNT(B.FILE#)
 -- --
  10704  2
  10705  2
  10721  2
  10722  2
  10723  2
  10724  2
  10725  2
  10726  2
  10727  2
  10728  2
  10765 33
  10766  4
  10767  2
  10768  1
  10769  1
  10770  1
  10771  1
  10772  1
  10773  1
  10774  1
  10775  1
  10776  1
  10777  1
  10778  1
  10779  1
  10780  2
  10781  1
  10782 18
--
 sum92
 --
---

 Any guesses as to why so many backup sets are being created.

 Ian MacGregor
 Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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AW: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi Mladen

We started evaluating MTS and JDBC Thin Driver (newest version for JDK 1.4,
running on Win2k against a test db on win2k, test db is oracle 9.2.0.3.0). I
never used SRVR=DEDICATED. I have a dispatcher running on port 5000 and a
listener on port 1521.
The only thing I do to direct the connection to either use MTS or dedicated
server is setting the port it connects to to either 1521 or 5000. That works
just fine.

Stefan


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Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juni 2003 14:25
An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Betreff: Re: JDBC and MTS


OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which

uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here
 
 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...
 
 
 Regis
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
 is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
 then
 everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
 normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of
patience.
 I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it
 will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
 string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
 shared
 server connection.
 Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version
is
 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered
with
 listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly
 little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no
 timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB
Ethernet
 and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it
with
 a
 JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.
 
 
 
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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Mark Leith
Thanks Ron :)

Mark

Cool-Tools

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Ruth,
 If you have the DataBee tool (available free )
http://www.cool-tools.co.uk You can take an export and then the
commands are available to recreate your tables and tablespaces.
Ron
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/17/03 10:59AM 

Do you need the CREATE DATABASE ... script or the scripts to create
all
the database objects.  If it's the latter and you have an export,
import
that into an IFILE and remove all the REMs.  That should give you the
tablespaces, tables, and indexes.  You'll have to do some manual
formatting.



   
   
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Good morning all,

Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox
have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to
recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a
time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
Ruth


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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Richard Ji
b) I use server=dedicated, is srvr=dedicate a short hand version of
it?

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which
uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here
 
 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...
 
 
 Regis
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
 is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
 then
 everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
 normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of patience.
 I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that it
 will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
 string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
 shared
 server connection.
 Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version is
 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered with
 listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing purposes. I found surprisingly
 little material on the Metalink. No network collisions, no retransmits, no
 timeouts can be seen from netstat -i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet
 and I would be very surprised if approximately 100 users could kill it with
 a
 JDBC application. They could use DBA as a human sacrifice, though.
 
 
 
 --
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AW: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi Regis

That's basically right. As I just posted, we use MTS for development, so
that not every developer starts up a local connection pool on their
workstation and we also don't end up with too many dedicated server
processes.
But I think you're right saying that MTS and application side connection
pooling is pretty much redundant, if not even the 
source for trouble.
a) the app server should start and monitor the connection pool.
b) the client sessions (or app threads within the app server or whatever)
request connections from that pool.
c) important aspect here is the fact that the app server thinks that it
maintains a pool of readily available, permanent connections. The clients
(or whoever) will just be passed a reference to a certain connection. After
they are finished with what they want to do, they put the connection back
into the pool (plus some connection re-aquiring mechanism for dead clients
and the like).
d) That means, that with MTS, a new player shows up, as in the connections
held in the connection pool are not permanent (or dedicated in oracle
terms). That might lead to some latency while fetching a valid connection
from the pool and using it, because when you actually start using it, you
end up with some overhead since the dispatcher has to give you a
connection.
e) I don't know for sure, but has anybody ever testet some of the new
features like sharing prepared statements between connections (and the
possibility to tag a name to a statement for further information / statement
fetching) with MTS ?

So, I think it's either MTS OR Java Connection Pooling, not BOTH.

Open for bashing,
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Regis Biassala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Juni 2003 16:15
An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Betreff: RE: JDBC and MTS


We add:
1. Application (Java)
Using a JDBC Connection Pooling (CP)feature...

2. Database
Oracle in MTS, pooling or not pooling enabled

This was not good for us...so we kept the Java pooling side of the app and
Oracle configured to run in dedicated mode.

We'got a XML policy file which disables JDBC connection pooling for our
application and gives the DBA a choice to configure a 
MTS...

So in our case we two scenarios:

1. DB(MTS) and app(without CP) this is OK

2. DB(dedicated) and app(with CP)

Regis



-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which

uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here
 
 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...
 
 
 Regis
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?
 
 Richard Ji
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I'm not a Java expert so 

RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I have it at home. It's a modified version of the script
in Orac_Dba, concocted by Jared Still and Andy Duncan. You
can get the script from CPAN and I'll send you my version 
when I get home. I've even sent it to Jared and Andy, but I 
don't have time to maintain Orac_Dba right now. May be Jared
has it somewhere at hand.

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Good morning all,

Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
crunch.

Thanks in advance,
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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Not sure if this was already mentioned.  You can hack up the result of
this:

alter database backup controlfile to trace;

into an exact replica of the create database statement.

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Jack van Zanen wrote:

 Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but
 
 
 Start the GUI DBCA (NO don't shoot), go through the all the motions and at
 the end choose generate scripts only.
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox have
 disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to recreate
 these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a time
 crunch.
 
 Thanks in advance,
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AW: RedHat AS Dev edition still available today THANK YOU Ron !

2003-06-17 Thread Kulev, Milen
To Ron:
Ron, 
your last link works !!! RH AS Dev Edition is already by me. Thank you very, VERY much 
for
the help! BTW, according to one of the official RedHat resellers in Germany, Dev 
Edition was not 
avialable anymore (?! I haven't posted them the link yet;) ), because there were too 
many requests
for updates ...NO comment.

Best Regards 
Milen Kulev 

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Milen,
 The offer is still available at
https://rhn.redhat.com/network/sales/index.pxt 
 you must have a RedHat network login, Easy to get on line.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 06:39PM 

Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't
expected this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's
with
a login and password. 
Ron


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/03 05:09PM 
Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread 
about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
Milen Kulev 
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RE: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Lee

If this is to be a web server kind of application then another possibility
to consider: Transparent Application Failover (TAF)

I think this works well with web applications where the data in the
database(s) isn't constantly changing at a high rate.  You have two or more
independent databases that you keep in sync with replication.  If one
becomes unavailable, sqlnet will send the app to the other database.  This
is handled entirely by sqlnet and requires no specific coding in the
application.  One handy thing about this setup is that if one of the
departments turns out to be a real database pig and needs to be put on its
own machine(s), you can setup the database(s), make a change to the
tnsnames.ora that the app is using, and it will magically start using the
new database(s) without ever taking down the app.  If you need to do some
maintenance on one box, then you just shut it down, and the app will go to
other.  If you have multiple web servers hitting the databases, you can get
some sort of load balancing by fiddling with the tnsnames.ora on each of the
web servers; for example, web server #1 hits database #1 and fails over to
database #2, and web server #2 is just the opposite.

The disadvantages of TAF (that I can think of at the moment) are: The syntax
for the network files for TAF is a little obscure and touchy.  If you fail
over -- usually because you want to do some maintenance on one of the
database servers -- then you might have to do some restart this and restart
that to get the web servers pointed back to the database they are supposed
to be using.  But often, this can be done without taking down the web front
ends

And a comment about this whole It can never go down philosophy.  The Unix
stuff from Sun and IBM is actually very reliable.  If your storage is fault
tolerant (i.e. 0+1 ... or ... RAID5 Oh YESS!), and as long as you don't
do something inherently unreliable such as putting critical stuff on NFS
mounts, these systems should stay up for a long time.  Most of the time your
outages will be caused by human error or network outages (caused by human
error -- Those damned humans!).

 -Original Message-
 
 Hi Dear listers,
 
 I'd like to ask your opinion about our possible new project.
 overview; install fatwire for the whole community for web 
 application. no 
 single point of failure, sun servers, oracle.
 We have more than 10 divisions currently( different 
 department, like arts, 
 dental, enginerring..etc), but we want the flexibility to add 
 more unit as 
 the environment changes and grows.
 Question 1: database option; what is the pros and cons about 
 physical standby 
 database, logical staandby or RAC? I think the answer should 
 be RAC, right?
 question 2: Among the questions is whether this is a series 
 of databases for 
 each unit or a central database that is shared by all?
 
 I am new to this area, I would appreciate any input informantion.
 
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Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 in a RAC environment?

2003-06-17 Thread laura pena
Looking at purchasing an EMCClarion Cx400 for our 2 Sun Fire 280R Solaris 9 machines.

Wondering if anyone is currently using this Storage system and how it performs. Any outstanding issues/concerns we should know about. Did your system admin attend a class on taking care of this storage solution? We will be running Veritas Database Edition for Oracle 9i R2 RAC.

I am gonna attend the Oracle RAC class offered by Oracle 
and the system administrator will attend the Veritas class.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks,
-Lizz
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Re: AW: RedHat AS Dev edition still available today

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Milen,
 The offer is still available at
https://rhn.redhat.com/network/sales/index.pxt 
 you must have a RedHat network login, Easy to get on line.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 06:39PM 

Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't
expected this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Von: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juni 2003 18:20
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Betreff: Re: RedHat AS Dev edition


Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's
with
a login and password. 
Ron


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/03 05:09PM 
Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread 
about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
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Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Hamid Alavi
List,

Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only data comparison
 create script for the result, I have two schema  want to find out what's
the difference exists as data point of view, I know TOAD can generate
comparison script BUT I am interesting In data comparison, any URL or help
would be appreciate
Thanks in advance.


Hamid Alavi

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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom



I recall an old bug where MTS would sleep for a bit - don't recall the bug 
anymore.

Jeffrey BeckstromDatabase AdministratorGreater Cleveland Regional 
Transit Authority1240 W. 6th StreetCleveland, Ohio 44113(216) 
781-4204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/03 12:35:20 PM 
b) I use server=dedicated, is srvr=dedicate a short hand version 
ofit?-Original Message-Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:25 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LOK. Let me get some 
things straight:a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures 
called DBAs. I don't program. I troubleshoot other 
people's programs. Other people program, I nag. When 
developers start writing bug-free software which uses the 
database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.b) The whole problem is 
that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the connect 
string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.c) What was the 
issue that you faced? That was my original question.On 2003.06.17 07:09, 
Regis Biassala wrote: Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it 
own connection pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections 
and more...We faced the same issue here  Our 
configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should 
handled by the app or the database... Use dedicated servers if there's 
noway you can disable the application connection pooling... 
  Regis  -Original Message- 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L   I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with 
MTS on Linux and switching to a dedicated connection seemed to fix the 
problem. But JDBC Thin and MTS worked fine on my Solaris 
box. Not sure with HP-UX. Is the Java application 
running on an Application Server?  Richard Ji  
-Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:25 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L   I'm not a 
Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application is 
facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and 
then everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users 
proceed normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack 
of patience. I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling 
mechanism and that it will start it's own dedicated server connection. 
It seems though that the string "SRVR=DEDICATED" has been ignored and 
that users are acquiring a shared server connection. 
Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version 
is 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are 
cross-registered with listeners on all 4 nodes for load balancing 
purposes. I found surprisingly little material on the Metalink. No 
network collisions, no retransmits, no timeouts can be seen from netstat 
-i and netstat -s. The NIC is 1GB Ethernet and I would be very surprised 
if approximately 100 users could kill it with a JDBC 
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Oracle releases by the different platforms...

2003-06-17 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: IOUG Live 2003



does 
anyone have a reasonable idea about which Hardware platforms and their order 
that Oracle releases the RDBMS??? For example, SUN,IBM,HP,LINUX? 
SUN,HP?etc,etc


Thanks 
in advance!!
Greg


Re: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Joan Hsieh
This application will need to tie into Sun one portal, the key items are
web central to provide unit to create content, change pages..etc
undergrades site for class registration, staff pages do other stuff.

Joan

Stephen Lee wrote:
 
 If this is to be a web server kind of application then another possibility
 to consider: Transparent Application Failover (TAF)
 
 I think this works well with web applications where the data in the
 database(s) isn't constantly changing at a high rate.  You have two or more
 independent databases that you keep in sync with replication.  If one
 becomes unavailable, sqlnet will send the app to the other database.  This
 is handled entirely by sqlnet and requires no specific coding in the
 application.  One handy thing about this setup is that if one of the
 departments turns out to be a real database pig and needs to be put on its
 own machine(s), you can setup the database(s), make a change to the
 tnsnames.ora that the app is using, and it will magically start using the
 new database(s) without ever taking down the app.  If you need to do some
 maintenance on one box, then you just shut it down, and the app will go to
 other.  If you have multiple web servers hitting the databases, you can get
 some sort of load balancing by fiddling with the tnsnames.ora on each of the
 web servers; for example, web server #1 hits database #1 and fails over to
 database #2, and web server #2 is just the opposite.
 
 The disadvantages of TAF (that I can think of at the moment) are: The syntax
 for the network files for TAF is a little obscure and touchy.  If you fail
 over -- usually because you want to do some maintenance on one of the
 database servers -- then you might have to do some restart this and restart
 that to get the web servers pointed back to the database they are supposed
 to be using.  But often, this can be done without taking down the web front
 ends
 
 And a comment about this whole It can never go down philosophy.  The Unix
 stuff from Sun and IBM is actually very reliable.  If your storage is fault
 tolerant (i.e. 0+1 ... or ... RAID5 Oh YESS!), and as long as you don't
 do something inherently unreliable such as putting critical stuff on NFS
 mounts, these systems should stay up for a long time.  Most of the time your
 outages will be caused by human error or network outages (caused by human
 error -- Those damned humans!).
 
  -Original Message-
 
  Hi Dear listers,
 
  I'd like to ask your opinion about our possible new project.
  overview; install fatwire for the whole community for web
  application. no
  single point of failure, sun servers, oracle.
  We have more than 10 divisions currently( different
  department, like arts,
  dental, enginerring..etc), but we want the flexibility to add
  more unit as
  the environment changes and grows.
  Question 1: database option; what is the pros and cons about
  physical standby
  database, logical staandby or RAC? I think the answer should
  be RAC, right?
  question 2: Among the questions is whether this is a series
  of databases for
  each unit or a central database that is shared by all?
 
  I am new to this area, I would appreciate any input informantion.
 
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RE: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Lee

I think DB Artisan Change Manager will do it.

 -Original Message-
 Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only 
 data comparison
  create script for the result
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MySQL in the future?

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News
How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like
Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL
could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM
in the database market. MySQL is making inroads as a database
alternative for small businesses or departmentally inside larger
enterprises. Ultimately, the groundswell of support for MySQL could
propel it on a Linux-like course to stardom as companies look to
reduce TCO for databases. 

For the full details, click:
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2221901 

 Interesting article Is this the wave of the future for the small
consultant??

 If the CEO is smart he will start a certification program and release
upgrades every 18 months. It keeps the revenue comming it.
Ron

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Re: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only data 
comparison  create script for the result
Isn't Change Mangement Pack in OEM able to do this?

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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Tom,
 Yes the trace file is a good idea for scripting the database ut it
does not create any of the tables and other options available in Oracle.
You will still need all of your scripts or other package to completely
recreate your database.
 That is if the interpretation of a database is more than just
datafiles.
 Ron


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Golly, this is the best answer!!!

Great idea Jeremiah

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Not sure if this was already mentioned.  You can hack up the result of
this:

alter database backup controlfile to trace;

into an exact replica of the create database statement.

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Jack van Zanen wrote:

 Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but
 
 
 Start the GUI DBCA (NO don't shoot), go through the all the motions
and at
 the end choose generate scripts only.
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 4:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox
have
 disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to
recreate
 these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a
time
 crunch.
 
 Thanks in advance,
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Re: OEM question

2003-06-17 Thread Ron Rogers
Lisa,
 Congrats on the flawless upgrade. 
 As I understand your statement about OEM you are correct. But you can
place the OEM repository on any old server, like the development one or
Linux and then run the OEM using it. Of course there is the issues of
licensing if you use your play station database as the repository. When
I was looking at OEM I used on of the dev servers to work on the prod
servers. The oem was in a small instance that was easy to full export as
a backup policy.

Ron

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Hello all, 
I'm configuring OEM for the first time.  I see it needs a repository to
operate.  So for the db-up functionality, if the database that contains
your repository goes down, your db-up function is dead, right?  Sounds
like the rman catalog quandry.  YOu have a catalog to backup your
database, but then you have to backup your catalog...
And just as a fyi:  I completed the upgrade from 8.1.7.4-9.2.0.3 on
Windows 2000 without incident last night.  It actually went pretty
quickly. 
Thanks in advance for any comments about OEM. 
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RE: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Lee

The TAF thing was just another option to consider.  I think it works best
when you have a web app over here and databases over there and over there
etc.  Sqlnet handles the dirty work of connection and failover management.
And *YOU* handle the dirty work of data management between the multiple
databases.  But if the data is easy to manage, TAF becomes a reasonable
option.

 -Original Message-
 
 This application will need to tie into Sun one portal, the 
 key items are
 web central to provide unit to create content, change pages..etc
 undergrades site for class registration, staff pages do other stuff.
 
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RE: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
TOAD v7.5 will allow you to export INSERT statements of all the data in a
table.  I've FTP'd these INSERT statements to a Unix box to run sdiff -s
between the files in order to get the differences.  Yes, it's a bit
manual, but the price is right (ours was $350/copy back in the 1900s).
You can evaluate TOAD by filling out the contact form at:

http://www.quest.com/toad/

...and click on the Download Trial link on the left.


HTH!

Rich

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 I think DB Artisan Change Manager will do it.
 
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8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Jay Wade
Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
might be off.

Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem
Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
can be performed.

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RE: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
Potentially (I've only tested it for meta data changes and it had a few
issues), if you're up to paying $1000s for it.  It's list is $3K/CPU or
$60/named user of the DBs you'll be monitoring.  What a joke!


Rich

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  Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only data 
  comparison  create script for the result
 
 Isn't Change Mangement Pack in OEM able to do this?
 
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RE: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?

2003-06-17 Thread John Kanagaraj
Rich,

There are two big issues with backup of an OLTP VLDB such as an ERP
database: Backup window, and redo generation during hot backup mode. Disk
I/O and network degradation during backup are also issues, albeit to a
lesser extent. While RMAN would obviate the redo generation part, your
backup window can still stretch out quite a bit depending on the backup
architecture(dedicated backup server, tape libraries, drive speed and
streaming, network segregation, disk staging capability, etc.) One of the
best ways of performing backup of an OLTP VLDB is by the use of mirroring
technologies - Hitachi ShadowImage, EMC BCV, IBMs whatever-it-is - is by
breaking off a mirror copy when the *whole* database is in Hot backup mode.
The backup can then be read off the mirror copy using a path that is
different from the production path in the network fabric. Another option is
presenting this copy to the server that performs the backup so the
production box never suffers. This implies of course that you have a large
enough SAN, and have configured the mirrors, _and_ the backup server is
connected to the same SAN as the ERP and is thus able to mount the
now-broken mirror. 

The issue with this is the resync that takes place when the mirror is
brought back for resilvering. If the mirror copy is placed in the same
server (i.e. not broken out) then resync takes much lesser time - and hour
or two depending on the amount of writes as well as the efficiency of the
SAN software. Some of the SANs are also able to perform a lazy catch-up
where busy disks 

We have used this technique successfully [ not on IBM or EMC though,
although there is no reason why this cannot be done ], but it costs $$.

And I have _all_ RAID 1 volumes on the ERP SAN, after having successfully
fought off a RAID5 'initiative' when we moved from a previous box :)
[Mogens - Does this qualify me for an elevated status in the BAARF party?]



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 From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:30 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?
 
 
 We're testing a FastT900
 (http://www.storage.ibm.com/disk/fastt/fast900/index.html) to 
 see how it
 will handle our IO thruput, but we've got one question as to 
 how we're going
 to do our daily snapshot of our production DB.
 
 With our current RAID set (HP's AutoRAID -- that's why we're 
 looking for a
 new solution.  BAARF -- Battle Against Auto Raid 
 Filesystems?), we do a
 simple hot backup and copy the production DB's datafiles
 tablespace-by-tablespace to a JBOD.  Once that JBOD copy is 
 put to tape, we
 recover it as a new database for our users to do what-if ERP 
 scenarios.
 We're wondering how to accomplish this with the FastT900.  
 Yes, we could do
 it the same way, but that seems to be a waste of Big SAN 
 Power, doesn't it?
 
 The big difference between our current layout and the 
 FastT900 layout is
 that the former-JBOD copy of the production DB will now reside on the
 FastT900 along with the production DB.  I guess what I was 
 thinking was to
 put all TSs into hot backup mode, perform some FastT900 magic 
 in less than
 X minutes to copy the DB, then end backup mode on the TSs.  
 No, I don't
 know what the X threshold is yet -- for the sake of 
 argument, let's say
 10.
 
 So, does anyone with experience on the FastTs have any ideas? 
  Some of the
 terms thrown out are Business Continuous Volumes and Third 
 Mirrors, although
 it doesn't seem like the FastT900 supports a third mirror, 
 and I'm a bit
 skeptical (a DBA trait?) about the time it would take to 
 resync the mirrors
 before we could do our snapshot.  I'm contacting the Sales 
 guys, too, but
 thought I'd see if anyone from an SA/DBA standpoint (hey, 
 some of us do
 BOTH, OK?) would have any pertinent thoughts.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Rich
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: JDBC and MTS

2003-06-17 Thread alan . aschenbrenner
The bug Jeffrey is referring to is supposedly fixed in 8.1.7 (but I've seen
metalink posts that suggest otherwise).  The bug numbers are 1304130 and
1309641 - the dispatcher goes to sleep occasionally for 60 seconds before
waking up and servicing requests again...

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I recall an old bug where MTS would sleep for a bit - don't recall the bug
anymore.

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b) I use server=dedicated, is srvr=dedicate a short hand version of
it?

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OK. Let me get some things straight:
a) I'm not a developer. I'm one of those vile creatures called DBAs.
I don't program. I troubleshoot other people's programs. Other people
program, I nag. When developers start writing bug-free software which

uses the database in the most optimal way, my job is gone.
b) The whole problem is that even after specifying SRVR=DEDICATED in the
connect string, the darned thing still connects as an MTS connection.
c) What was the issue that you faced? That was my original question.

On 2003.06.17 07:09, Regis Biassala wrote:
 Richard is right...If ur Java application uses it own connection
 pooling...then do not use MTS...it slows down connections and more...We
 faced the same issue here

 Our configuration allows DBA to choose weather connection pooling should
 handled by the app or the database...
 Use dedicated servers if there's noway you can disable the application
 connection pooling...


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 I used to seen problems with JDBC Thin with MTS on Linux and switching to
 a dedicated connection seemed to fix the problem.  But JDBC Thin and MTS
 worked fine on my Solaris box.  Not sure with HP-UX.  Is the Java
 application
 running on an Application Server?

 Richard Ji

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 I'm not a Java expert so please forgive me my ignorance. JDBC application
 is facing very strange performance problems during connect. Every now and
 then
 everything appears to be hung and then, 10 minutes later, users proceed
 normally but with the elevated blood pressure and serious lack of
patience.
 I was told that JDBC has it's own connection pooling mechanism and that
it
 will start it's own dedicated server connection. It seems though that the
 string SRVR=DEDICATED has been ignored and that users are acquiring a
 shared
 server connection.
 Does anybody in this group have any experience with JDBC and MTS? Version
is
 8.1.7.1, 64 bit on HP-UX 11 with OPS. Dispatchers are cross-registered
with
 

RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Jay,

the answer is B is the funny word there really is supports.

C is the the predecessor to Rman - and it only works in Oracle version 7.

A and D are just plain false.

Tom Mercadante
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Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
might be off.

Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem

Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
can be performed.

Thanks in Advance,
Jay

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RE: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Louis BROUILLETTE
I think that's a good way to do it but I would use the Compare files of 
TOAD which is much nicer to look at than sdiff.
At 11:04 2003-06-17 -0800, you wrote:
TOAD v7.5 will allow you to export INSERT statements of all the data in a
table.  I've FTP'd these INSERT statements to a Unix box to run sdiff -s
between the files in order to get the differences.  Yes, it's a bit
manual, but the price is right (ours was $350/copy back in the 1900s).
You can evaluate TOAD by filling out the contact form at:
http://www.quest.com/toad/

...and click on the Download Trial link on the left.

HTH!

Rich

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 I think DB Artisan Change Manager will do it.

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  Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only
  data comparison
   create script for the result
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Re: Oracle releases by the different platforms...

2003-06-17 Thread Daniel Fink
Greg,
   The pattern with 9i was Solaris and HP-UX first, Windows next (seemed to be delayed 
several months), then Linux.

Dan Fink
 Loughmiller, Greg wrote:
 
 does anyone have a reasonable idea about which Hardware platforms and their order 
 that Oracle releases the RDBMS???  For example, SUN,IBM,HP,LINUX? SUN,HP?etc,etc
 
 
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Resend: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?

2003-06-17 Thread John Kanagaraj
/** Resending, as I fat-fingered the previous one :( **/

Rich,

There are two big issues with backup of an OLTP VLDB such as an ERP
database: Backup window, and redo generation during hot backup mode. Disk
I/O and network degradation during backup are also issues, albeit to a
lesser extent. While RMAN would obviate the redo generation part, your
backup window when using RMAN can still stretch out quite a bit depending on
the backup architecture and capacity (dedicated backup server, tape
libraries, drive speed and streaming, network segregation, disk staging
capability, etc.) One of the best ways of performing backup of an OLTP VLDB
is by the use of mirroring technologies - Hitachi ShadowImage, EMC BCV, IBMs
whatever-it-is - and breaking off a mirror copy when the *whole* database is
in Hot backup mode. The backup can then be read off the mirror copy using a
path that is different from the production path in the network fabric.
Another option is presenting this copy to the server that performs the
backup so the production box never suffers. This implies of course that you
have a large enough SAN, and have configured the mirrors, _and_ the backup
server is connected to the same SAN as the ERP and is thus able to mount the
now-broken mirror in the latter option. 

The issue with this approach is the resync that takes place when the mirror
is brought back for resilvering. If the mirror copy is placed in the same
server (i.e. not broken out) then resync takes much lesser time - and hour
or two depending on the amount of writes as well as the efficiency of the
SAN software. Some of the SANs are also able to perform a lazy catch-up
where busy disks are left for later catchup, etc. 

We have used this technique successfully [ not on IBM or EMC though,
although there is no reason why this cannot be done ], but it costs $$.

And I have an _all_ RAID 1 volumes on the ERP SAN, after having successfully
fought off a RAID5 'initiative' when we moved from a previous box :)
[Mogens - Does this qualify me for an elevated status in the BAARF party?]

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:30 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?
 
 
 We're testing a FastT900
 (http://www.storage.ibm.com/disk/fastt/fast900/index.html) to 
 see how it
 will handle our IO thruput, but we've got one question as to 
 how we're going
 to do our daily snapshot of our production DB.
 
 With our current RAID set (HP's AutoRAID -- that's why we're 
 looking for a
 new solution.  BAARF -- Battle Against Auto Raid 
 Filesystems?), we do a
 simple hot backup and copy the production DB's datafiles
 tablespace-by-tablespace to a JBOD.  Once that JBOD copy is 
 put to tape, we
 recover it as a new database for our users to do what-if ERP 
 scenarios.
 We're wondering how to accomplish this with the FastT900.  
 Yes, we could do
 it the same way, but that seems to be a waste of Big SAN 
 Power, doesn't it?
 
 The big difference between our current layout and the 
 FastT900 layout is
 that the former-JBOD copy of the production DB will now reside on the
 FastT900 along with the production DB.  I guess what I was 
 thinking was to
 put all TSs into hot backup mode, perform some FastT900 magic 
 in less than
 X minutes to copy the DB, then end backup mode on the TSs.  
 No, I don't
 know what the X threshold is yet -- for the sake of 
 argument, let's say
 10.
 
 So, does anyone with experience on the FastTs have any ideas? 
  Some of the
 terms thrown out are Business Continuous Volumes and Third 
 Mirrors, although
 it doesn't seem like the FastT900 supports a third mirror, 
 and I'm a bit
 skeptical (a DBA trait?) about the time it would take to 
 resync the mirrors
 before we could do our snapshot.  I'm contacting the Sales 
 guys, too, but
 thought I'd see if anyone from an SA/DBA standpoint (hey, 
 some of us do
 BOTH, OK?) would have any pertinent thoughts.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Rich
 
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 p.s.  No disks were subjected to RAIDs outside of 10 and/or 
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Re: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Joan Hsieh
Thanks Robert, Malden and stephen. I am just wondering does master
replication is an option too? As I mentioned earlier, the application
is  sun one portal, content based.

Joan

Freeman Robert - IL wrote:
 
 See comments below
 
 RF
 
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 Consultant - TUSC
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 One browser to bring them all and into the darkness bind them
 In the land of Redmond where the shadows lie.
 
 -Original Message-
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: 6/16/2003 11:14 PM
 
  Hi Dear listers,
 
  I'd like to ask your opinion about our possible new project.
  overview; install fatwire for the whole community for web application.
  no single point of failure, sun servers, oracle.
  We have more than 10 divisions currently( different department, like
  arts, dental, enginerring..etc), but we want the flexibility to add
  more unit as the environment changes and grows.
 
 Question 1: database option; what is the pros and cons about physical
 standby database, logical staandby or RAC? I think the answer should be RAC,
 right?
 
 You are asking the question without yet really providing the requirements.
 
 The standby database (logical or physical) is there to meet disaster
 recovery requirements, *NOT* HA requirements. It's need is defined by your
 SLA's with regards to how much down time can I have, do I need a remote
 site, do I need to be able to revert to a previous image of my database,
 etc...etc... For some environments, offsite backups are perfectly
 satisfactory in this regard, at other sites, you have a hot offsite
 location, where you run dataguard (standby). So, you need to define your
 needs before you ask the question.
 
 Specifically regarding logical standby databases, they are a great idea but
 in my mind they are still new enough (and I've seen a bugs enough) that I
 don't trust them yet for mission critical application failover. I might
 consent to using one in combination with at least one physical standby if
 needs and resources allowed. Still, for right now, if my requirements
 dictated a standby database, I'd go physical.
 
 RAC, OTOH, is there to meet HA requirements, not DR requirements (unless you
 can configure a long distance RAC cluster which I have yet to see work
 really well yet). RAC is an added cost option to Oracle, with it's own set
 of headaches that may or may not be worth your time and money. Again, it
 depends on your needs, budget and SLA's. If you need four 9's uptime, then
 RAC may well be the way to go. If you have a rather stable system, and your
 users can stand an outage, then perhaps you do not need RAC. Again, you must
 define the requirements first, then look for the solutions.
 
  question 2: Among the questions is whether this is a series of
  databases for each unit or a central database that is shared by all?
 My personal rule about this is that if a given application is going to
 largely share data with another existing application, and there are no good
 reasons to separate them into their own databases (for example wildly
 different SLA's with regards to HA or DR), then I will simply use the same
 database. This avoids problems with disparate data issues (and saves a bit
 of memory and CPU).
 
 However if the application is self-contained, or if it uses data feeds from
 several systems (which is much more frequent in my experience) then it goes
 into it's own database and we have to decide how we are going to feed it
 data.
 
 HTH!!!
 
 Robert
 
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RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Gary W. Parker
The answer is D; 
  RMAN does not require a recovery catalog
  RMAN only supports multi-level incremental backups when DB is in Archivelog mode
  RMAN is NOT compatible with EBU

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Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
might be off.

Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem

Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
can be performed.

Thanks in Advance,
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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Ron,

I read Ruth's original message meaning that she had to re-create the
database structures.  Of course you are correct if she meant the schema
objects also.

I just liked Jeremiah's thinking - this is an excellent quick way of
creating the create database script to re-create all of the physical
structure.  Much easier than trying to create a sql-script to generate the
same.

Tom Mercadante
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Tom,
 Yes the trace file is a good idea for scripting the database ut it
does not create any of the tables and other options available in Oracle.
You will still need all of your scripts or other package to completely
recreate your database.
 That is if the interpretation of a database is more than just
datafiles.
 Ron


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Golly, this is the best answer!!!

Great idea Jeremiah

Tom Mercadante
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Not sure if this was already mentioned.  You can hack up the result of
this:

alter database backup controlfile to trace;

into an exact replica of the create database statement.

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Jack van Zanen wrote:

 Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but
 
 
 Start the GUI DBCA (NO don't shoot), go through the all the motions
and at
 the end choose generate scripts only.
 
 Jack
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Good morning all,
 
 Somehow all of my scripts to create the databases on my 9i sandbox
have
 disappeared.  Does anyone have a script or trick or something to
recreate
 these files?  I could recreate them manually but I am somewhat of a
time
 crunch.
 
 Thanks in advance,
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Re: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread AK
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 Hello:

 I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key
 might be off.

 Question

 Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in
 NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

 A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
 B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
 C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
 D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem

 Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

 I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup
 can be performed.

 Thanks in Advance,
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Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP

2003-06-17 Thread Basavaraja, Ravindra
Hi All,

I want to test a procedure that accepts an array as input.I want to test
this script from 
SQL*PLUS.How can I pass array value from sql*plus

Procedure testproc(iarrPID  IN PID_VArray).

I want to test it this way

SQLExec testproc(?)

Tried this was 
SQLEXEC testproc(33);

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PLS-00306: wrong number or types of arguments in call to
'testproc'
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PL/SQL: Statement ignored

Pls help

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Re: RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread rgaffuri
are these the questions you buy from oracle corporation? or from some outside vendor? 
if so who? I wont get those. If its from oracle, that is troubling... since the test 
might be wrong also. 
 
 From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/06/17 Tue PM 04:20:10 EDT
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 8i OCP Question
 
 Jay,
 
 the answer is B is the funny word there really is supports.
 
 C is the the predecessor to Rman - and it only works in Oracle version 7.
 
 A and D are just plain false.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:45 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hello:
 
 I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
 might be off.
 
 Question
 
 Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
 NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?
 
 A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
 B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
 C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
 D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem
 
 Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.
 
 I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
 can be performed.
 
 Thanks in Advance,
 Jay
 
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Re: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Peter Gram
Hi

And answer D is not correct since Rman works fine without a tape 
subsystem, by writing to Disk :-)

Gary W. Parker wrote:

The answer is D; 
 RMAN does not require a recovery catalog
 RMAN only supports multi-level incremental backups when DB is in Archivelog mode
 RMAN is NOT compatible with EBU

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Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
might be off.

Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem
Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
can be performed.

Thanks in Advance,
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ora-1031

2003-06-17 Thread Ehresmann, David
I have 3 triggers that are giving an ora-1031, below is an example:

 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
*
ERROR at line 16:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges

The same schema owns the tables and the triggers.  Let me repeat,  the
tables exist and are owned by the same schema as the triggers.  I can create
about 50 triggers just like this before I get the error.  The 3 triggers are
delete triggers, I don't know if that is something to keep in mind.  Why
would I get an ora-1031?


CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DIAMOND.trg_audit_aai_delete
/*__
__

*/
/*

___

*/
 AFTER DELETE
 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
 FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE
 l_seq_audit_id   NUMBER;
 l_number NUMBER (1);
 l_active_trigger hsd_navgrp_kw.audit_trail%TYPE;
 l_old_data   VARCHAR2 (32750);
 iINTEGER;
 l_done   CHAR:= 'F';
 l_found_splitCHAR:= 'F';
 l_segment_cntINTEGER := 1;

David Ehresmann   

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RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Stefick Ronald S Civ ESC/HRSID
Title: RE: 8i OCP Question





Jay, 


I disagree. Go to (you may have to paste the link back together) 
http://www.znow.com/sales/oracle/server.816/a76990/rmanconc.htm#424437
And scroll down to the first NOTE: It tells you right there that RMAN is not compatible with EBU. I'm assuming your answer B) is supposed to say Recovery Manager SUPPORTS multi-level incremental backups. So I would go with that one.

-Scott Stefick




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Hello:


I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer key 
might be off.


Question


Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?


A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem


Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.


I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline backup 
can be performed.


Thanks in Advance,
Jay


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RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
B is the correct answer. Incremental backups are supported in archivelog and
noarchivelog mode. 

Rman does not require a recovery catalog.
RMAN is not compatible with EBU
RMAN works just fine to disk.

Robert Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery Freeman

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The answer is D; 
  RMAN does not require a recovery catalog
  RMAN only supports multi-level incremental backups when DB is in
Archivelog mode
  RMAN is NOT compatible with EBU

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:45 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer
key 
might be off.

Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in 
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem

Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline
backup 
can be performed.

Thanks in Advance,
Jay

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RE: asking your opinion

2003-06-17 Thread Stephen Lee

CAVEAT: With all the banging around Oracle has done with replication, I
think my knowledge of replication is quickly getting outdated.  Keeping that
in mind: In my limited experience with simple snapshot replication, about
the only time you run into difficulties is when you need to replicate at
frequent intervals -- like every 15 seconds or something like that.  Then
the overhead gets nasty.  For something like every five minutes or greater,
simple snapshots are easy to setup and maintain, and the overhead ain't bad
then.  I've found it to be reliable as long as you don't screw with it after
you set it up.

By simple snapshot replication I mean the old style of replication where
you create snapshot logs on the master; snapshots on the client(s); a
refresh group in a refresh boss guy schema on the client(s); add the
snapshots to the refresh group; then set up a job in the refresh boss's
schema that refreshes the refresh group.  Then you periodically monitor the
refresh job to make sure that it isn't broken.

I think the New! Improved! replication stuff has you putting the refresh
times directly in the create snapshot (E-X-C-U-S-E M-E ... Materialized
View) statement.  I don't do that; at least not until they incorporate the
word Existential into the process.

 -Original Message-
 
 
 Thanks Robert, Malden and stephen. I am just wondering does master
 replication is an option too? As I mentioned earlier, the application
 is  sun one portal, content based.
 
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RE: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
Hi Louis,

That sounds cool, but where can you compare table data in TOAD?  The only
options I see (TOAD 7.5 registered and TOAD 7.5.3.28 BETA w/DBA module) are
for the object definitions of schemas and not the data itself.

Rich

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 -Original Message-
 From: Louis BROUILLETTE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:55 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Compare Schema with data
 
 
 I think that's a good way to do it but I would use the 
 Compare files of 
 TOAD which is much nicer to look at than sdiff.
 At 11:04 2003-06-17 -0800, you wrote:
 TOAD v7.5 will allow you to export INSERT statements of 
 all the data in a
 table.  I've FTP'd these INSERT statements to a Unix box to 
 run sdiff -s
 between the files in order to get the differences.  Yes, it's a bit
 manual, but the price is right (ours was $350/copy back 
 in the 1900s).
 You can evaluate TOAD by filling out the contact form at:
 
 http://www.quest.com/toad/
 
 ...and click on the Download Trial link on the left.
 
 
 HTH!
 
 Rich
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
 
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   Subject: RE: Compare Schema with data
  
  
  
   I think DB Artisan Change Manager will do it.
  
-Original Message-
Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only
data comparison
 create script for the result
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RE: Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP

2003-06-17 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP





exec testproc(pid_varray(1,2,3,4,5));


Raj

Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
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Subject: Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP



Hi All,


I want to test a procedure that accepts an array as input.I want to test
this script from 
SQL*PLUS.How can I pass array value from sql*plus


Procedure testproc(iarrPID  IN PID_VArray).


I want to test it this way


SQLExec testproc(?)


Tried this was 
SQLEXEC testproc(33);


ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PLS-00306: wrong number or types of arguments in call to
'testproc'
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PL/SQL: Statement ignored


Pls help


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RE: MySQL in the future?

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
I haven't really used either in-depth, but the features of PostrgeSQL
http://advocacy.postgresql.org/advantages/ seem to be a lot closer to
Enterprise than MySQL 4.x, IMHO.  Then again, I'm an Oracle bigot -- for
now.  :)

Rich

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 -Original Message-
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 Subject: MySQL in the future?
 
 
 WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News
 How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like
 Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL
 could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM
 in the database market. MySQL is making inroads as a database
 alternative for small businesses or departmentally inside larger
 enterprises. Ultimately, the groundswell of support for MySQL could
 propel it on a Linux-like course to stardom as companies look to
 reduce TCO for databases. 
 
 For the full details, click:
 http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2221901 
 
  Interesting article Is this the wave of the future for the small
 consultant??
 
  If the CEO is smart he will start a certification program and release
 upgrades every 18 months. It keeps the revenue comming it.
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RE: recreating a create database file

2003-06-17 Thread Bob Metelsky
popping my head out the window...

Here is the create script I just did for 9i

[createdb.sql]

spool DB_DESTINATION\admin\INSTANCE\create\CreateDB.log
set echo on

connect SYS/PASSWORD as SYSDBA
startup nomount
pfile=DB_DESTINATION\admin\INSTANCE\pfile\initINSTANCE.ora;

-- build the db
CREATE DATABASE INSTANCE
MAXINSTANCES 1
MAXLOGHISTORY 1
MAXLOGFILES 64
MAXLOGMEMBERS 3
MAXDATAFILES 100
CHARACTER SET WE8MSWIN1252
NATIONAL CHARACTER SET AL16UTF16
DATAFILE 'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_system.dbf'
SIZE 100M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 10M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED
LOGFILE GROUP 1
('DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_redo01.log') SIZE 2M,
GROUP 2 ('DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_redo02.log')
SIZE  2M,
GROUP 3 ('DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_redo03.log')
SIZE  2M;
spool off

-- create db files
spool DB_DESTINATION\admin\INSTANCE\create\CreateDBFiles.log
CREATE ROLLBACK SEGMENT BLD TABLESPACE SYSTEM

STORAGE(INITIAL 128K NEXT 128K MINEXTENTS 2 MAXEXTENTS 32);

ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT BLD ONLINE;

commit ;
--  NOTE--  SET THE SIZES OF THE
TABLESPACES BELOW  TO MATCH YOUR  DESIRED  DATABASE

CREATE  TEMPORARY TABLESPACE TEMP  TEMPFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_TEMP01.dbf' SIZE 100M
EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL UNIFORM SIZE 1M;
-- NOTE using the undo tablespace is a new feature of 9i and  can
replace rollback segments. 
-- The corresponding setting in the initINSTANCE.ora file
undo_management=manual or auto must be used. For the time being we are
using conventional rollback segments
--  UNDO TABLESPACE UNDOTBS1 DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_undotbs01.dbf' SIZE 100M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  5120K MAXSIZE UNLIMITED

-- NOTE the commented CREATE TABLESPACE sections below are the 8i
conventional method of size management. 
-- The uncommented sections use the new feature of 9i EXTENT MANAGEMENT
LOCAL SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO 
-- more info
http://www.asia.cnet.com/builder/architect/db/0,39009328,39106483,00.htm
--  and http://otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/daily/Aug01.html

-- CREATE TABLESPACE USERS LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_users01.dbf' SIZE 25M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  1280K MAXSIZE UNLIMITED ;

CREATE TABLESPACE USERS LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_USERS01.dbf' SIZE 100M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL
SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO ;
ALTER TABLESPACE USERS ONLINE;

--CREATE TABLESPACE TABLES LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_tables1.dbf' SIZE 100M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  1280K MAXSIZE UNLIMITED ;
--ALTER TABLESPACE TABLES ONLINE;

CREATE TABLESPACE TABLES LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_TABLES01.dbf' SIZE 100M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL
SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO ;
ALTER TABLESPACE TABLES ONLINE;

--CREATE TABLESPACE INDXS LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_indx01.dbf' SIZE 25M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  1280K MAXSIZE UNLIMITED ;
--ALTER TABLESPACE INDXS ONLINE;

CREATE TABLESPACE INDXS LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_INDXS01.dbf' SIZE 50M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL
SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO ;
ALTER TABLESPACE INDXS ONLINE;

--CREATE TABLESPACE REPORT LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_REPORT01.dbf' SIZE 10M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  320K -MAXSIZE  UNLIMITED ;
--ALTER TABLESPACE REPORT ONLINE;

CREATE TABLESPACE REPORT LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_REPORT01.dbf' SIZE 1M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL
SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO ;
ALTER TABLESPACE REPORT ONLINE;

--CREATE TABLESPACE XMLDB LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_XMLdb01.dbf' SIZE 20M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT  1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED ;
--ALTER TABLESPACE XMLDB ONLINE;

CREATE TABLESPACE XMLDB LOGGING DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_XMLDB01.dbf' SIZE 5M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED EXTENT MANAGEMENT LOCAL
SEGMENT SPACE MANAGEMENT  AUTO ;
ALTER TABLESPACE XMLDB ONLINE;

CREATE TABLESPACE ROLLBACK_SEGS DATAFILE
'DB_DESTINATION\Oradata\INSTANCE\INSTANCE_ROLLBACK.DBF' SIZE 25M
REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 1M MAXSIZE UNLIMITED ;
ALTER TABLESPACE ROLLBACK_SEGS ONLINE;
spool off

-- create users
spool DB_DESTINATION\admin\INSTANCE\create\createUsers.log
alter user system temporary tablespace temp;
alter user system default tablespace users;
alter user system identified by PASSWORD;
alter user sys identified by PASSWORD;

Create users and add permissions here...

-- Create 8 rollback segments.  Allows about 32 concurrent users with
open
-- transactions updating the database.  
spool DB_DESTINATION\admin\INSTANCE\create\CreateRBSegs.log

CREATE ROLLBACK SEGMENT RS_01A
TABLESPACE ROLLBACK_SEGS
STORAGE(
   INITIAL 128K
   

Re: RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Jay Wade
This is from an outside vendor, usually they are good but I can't seem to 
figure this one out.

I know that you can allocate a channel to disk on a NoArchiveLog mode 
database through Rman.
Also, only full backups (offline) can be taken if the db is in NoArchiveLog 
mode.
The only thing that I thought might work is that in OEM backup manager only 
full backups are allowed on NoArchivelog db's at least that is my 
understanding.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: RE: 8i OCP Question
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 12:59:20 -0800
are these the questions you buy from oracle corporation? or from some 
outside vendor? if so who? I wont get those. If its from oracle, that is 
troubling... since the test might be wrong also.

 From: Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/06/17 Tue PM 04:20:10 EDT
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 Subject: RE: 8i OCP Question

 Jay,

 the answer is B is the funny word there really is supports.

 C is the the predecessor to Rman - and it only works in Oracle version 
7.

 A and D are just plain false.

 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional


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 Hello:

 I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer 
key
 might be off.

 Question

 Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in
 NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?

 A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
 B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
 C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
 D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem

 Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

 I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline 
backup
 can be performed.

 Thanks in Advance,
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RE: ora-1031

2003-06-17 Thread Pardee, Roy E
Does your schema owner have privs enough on hsd_navgrp_kw?  If you swap that
out for an explicitly specified datatype for l_active_trigger, does it make
any difference?

Roy Pardee
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I have 3 triggers that are giving an ora-1031, below is an example:

 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
*
ERROR at line 16:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges

The same schema owns the tables and the triggers.  Let me repeat,  the
tables exist and are owned by the same schema as the triggers.  I can create
about 50 triggers just like this before I get the error.  The 3 triggers are
delete triggers, I don't know if that is something to keep in mind.  Why
would I get an ora-1031?


CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DIAMOND.trg_audit_aai_delete
/*__
__

*/
/*

___

*/
 AFTER DELETE
 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
 FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE
 l_seq_audit_id   NUMBER;
 l_number NUMBER (1);
 l_active_trigger hsd_navgrp_kw.audit_trail%TYPE;
 l_old_data   VARCHAR2 (32750);
 iINTEGER;
 l_done   CHAR:= 'F';
 l_found_splitCHAR:= 'F';
 l_segment_cntINTEGER := 1;

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RE: 8i OCP Question

2003-06-17 Thread Jay Wade
Does that apply to 8i databases as well?

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B is the correct answer. Incremental backups are supported in archivelog 
and
noarchivelog mode.

Rman does not require a recovery catalog.
RMAN is not compatible with EBU
RMAN works just fine to disk.
Robert Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery Freeman

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The answer is D;
  RMAN does not require a recovery catalog
  RMAN only supports multi-level incremental backups when DB is in
Archivelog mode
  RMAN is NOT compatible with EBU
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Hello:

I'm taking a 8i Backup  Recovery Practice test and believe the answer
key
might be off.
Question

Which statement regarding Recovery Manager with a database operating in
NOARCHIVELOG mode is true?
A) Recovery Manager requires a recovery catelog
B) Recovery Manager syooirts multi-level incremental backups
C) Recovery Manager is compatible with Enterpise Backup utility
D) Recovery Manager only works in conjunction with a tap subsystem
Anwser key says that D is the correct answer.

I would say that C is the correct answer since only a full offline
backup
can be performed.
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RE: Oracle releases by the different platforms...

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
And then OpenVMS.  sigh  And MTS *still* doesn't work there...


Rich

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 Subject: Re: Oracle releases by the different platforms...
 
 
 Greg,
The pattern with 9i was Solaris and HP-UX first, Windows 
 next (seemed to be delayed several months), then Linux.
 
 Dan Fink
  Loughmiller, Greg wrote:
  
  does anyone have a reasonable idea about which Hardware 
 platforms and their order that Oracle releases the RDBMS???  
 For example, SUN,IBM,HP,LINUX? SUN,HP?etc,etc
  
  
  Thanks in advance!!
  Greg
 
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RE: RedHat AS Dev edition still available today THANK YOU Ron !

2003-06-17 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Maybe Redhat was overwhelmed by the demand?

Patrice.

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To Ron:
Ron, 
your last link works !!! RH AS Dev Edition is already by me. Thank you very,
VERY much for
the help! BTW, according to one of the official RedHat resellers in Germany,
Dev Edition was not 
avialable anymore (?! I haven't posted them the link yet;) ), because there
were too many requests
for updates ...NO comment.

Best Regards 
Milen Kulev 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Milen,
 The offer is still available at
https://rhn.redhat.com/network/sales/index.pxt 
 you must have a RedHat network login, Easy to get on line.
Ron

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/03 06:39PM 

Thanks for the answer Ron,
the problem is that I don't see Dev Edition listed anymore ;(.
I dont't know whether RH will repeat this great offer- I didn't
expected this offer to be pulled
so quickly ;( That is why I am searching a way to get this software.

Best Regards
Milen Kulev

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Melin,
 Talking to the REdHat support people and the Dev edition was pulled
last week some time. If on the buy it page you see the RedHat AS
Developers edition you can still purchase it and download the ISO's
with
a login and password. 
Ron


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Hallo list,
 
I would like to play a little bit with RAC and decided to download
RedHat AdvacedServer Dev Edition (in February there was a thread 
about
this topic in the list ). The problem is that  the link
http://www.redhat.com/software/advancedserver/developer/  doesn't
offer this promotion (60 USD)anymore.
 
Is this offer really gone or am I  missing sth ? Where could I find RH
AS  Dev Edition ?
 
Any help will be appreciated.
 
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RE: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?

2003-06-17 Thread Jesse, Rich
Thanks John, but I already know the generic issues with Oracle DB backup on
SAN.  That's why I was asking specifically about the FastT900.  

After some research, I've found out that there is an option called
FlashCopy, which appears to be different than the third mirror approach,
but am having a difficult time relating that to our scenario.  Specifically,
how long the DB would be in backup mode (for reasons you mentioned), what
overhead is involved on the production DB before and after the copy (i.e. if
it's a PIT snap, do only changed blocks from the source get copied to the
target or what about changes to the target itself, since we're firing that
up as a separate DB?), and what does a logical subsystem (LSS) consist of,
since the source and target of the FlashCopy must exist on the same LSS?

Perhaps it's time to call a FastT Tech Sales Guru...  :)

BTW, are you RAID 0ing along with your RAID 1 or are you relying on the SAN
cache for performance?  Whole DB or just data?

BAARFingly,
Rich

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 Subject: Resend: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?
 
 
 /** Resending, as I fat-fingered the previous one :( **/
 
 Rich,
 
 There are two big issues with backup of an OLTP VLDB such as an ERP
 database: Backup window, and redo generation during hot 
 backup mode. Disk
 I/O and network degradation during backup are also issues, albeit to a
 lesser extent. While RMAN would obviate the redo generation part, your
 backup window when using RMAN can still stretch out quite a 
 bit depending on
 the backup architecture and capacity (dedicated backup server, tape
 libraries, drive speed and streaming, network segregation, 
 disk staging
 capability, etc.) One of the best ways of performing backup 
 of an OLTP VLDB
 is by the use of mirroring technologies - Hitachi 
 ShadowImage, EMC BCV, IBMs
 whatever-it-is - and breaking off a mirror copy when the 
 *whole* database is
 in Hot backup mode. The backup can then be read off the 
 mirror copy using a
 path that is different from the production path in the network fabric.
 Another option is presenting this copy to the server that performs the
 backup so the production box never suffers. This implies of 
 course that you
 have a large enough SAN, and have configured the mirrors, 
 _and_ the backup
 server is connected to the same SAN as the ERP and is thus 
 able to mount the
 now-broken mirror in the latter option. 
 
 The issue with this approach is the resync that takes place 
 when the mirror
 is brought back for resilvering. If the mirror copy is placed 
 in the same
 server (i.e. not broken out) then resync takes much lesser 
 time - and hour
 or two depending on the amount of writes as well as the 
 efficiency of the
 SAN software. Some of the SANs are also able to perform a 
 lazy catch-up
 where busy disks are left for later catchup, etc. 
 
 We have used this technique successfully [ not on IBM or EMC though,
 although there is no reason why this cannot be done ], but it 
 costs $$.
 
 And I have an _all_ RAID 1 volumes on the ERP SAN, after 
 having successfully
 fought off a RAID5 'initiative' when we moved from a previous box :)
 [Mogens - Does this qualify me for an elevated status in the 
 BAARF party?]
 
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 not those of my
 employer or clients **
 
 
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Anyone using IBM's FastT900 SAN for Oracle DBs?
  
  
  We're testing a FastT900
  (http://www.storage.ibm.com/disk/fastt/fast900/index.html) to 
  see how it
  will handle our IO thruput, but we've got one question as to 
  how we're going
  to do our daily snapshot of our production DB.
  
  With our current RAID set (HP's AutoRAID -- that's why we're 
  looking for a
  new solution.  BAARF -- Battle Against Auto Raid 
  Filesystems?), we do a
  simple hot backup and copy the production DB's datafiles
  tablespace-by-tablespace to a JBOD.  Once that JBOD copy is 
  put to tape, we
  recover it as a new database for our users to do what-if ERP 
  scenarios.
  We're wondering how to accomplish this with the FastT900.  
  Yes, we could do
  it the same way, but that seems to be a waste of Big SAN 
  Power, doesn't it?
  
  The big difference between our current layout and the 
  FastT900 layout is
  that the former-JBOD copy of the production DB will now 
 reside on the
  FastT900 along with the production DB.  I guess what I was 
  thinking was to
  put 

RE: ora-1031

2003-06-17 Thread Ehresmann, David
Yes, it does.  I just double checked that.
David Ehresmann.

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Does your schema owner have privs enough on hsd_navgrp_kw?  If you swap that
out for an explicitly specified datatype for l_active_trigger, does it make
any difference?

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst/DBA
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Extension 8487

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I have 3 triggers that are giving an ora-1031, below is an example:

 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
*
ERROR at line 16:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges

The same schema owns the tables and the triggers.  Let me repeat,  the
tables exist and are owned by the same schema as the triggers.  I can create
about 50 triggers just like this before I get the error.  The 3 triggers are
delete triggers, I don't know if that is something to keep in mind.  Why
would I get an ora-1031?


CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER DIAMOND.trg_audit_aai_delete
/*__
__

*/
/*

___

*/
 AFTER DELETE
 ON AUTH_ADDTL_INFO
 FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE
 l_seq_audit_id   NUMBER;
 l_number NUMBER (1);
 l_active_trigger hsd_navgrp_kw.audit_trail%TYPE;
 l_old_data   VARCHAR2 (32750);
 iINTEGER;
 l_done   CHAR:= 'F';
 l_found_splitCHAR:= 'F';
 l_segment_cntINTEGER := 1;

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Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP

2003-06-17 Thread Basavaraja, Ravindra
Hi All,

I want to test a procedure that accepts an array as input.I want to test
this script from 
SQL*PLUS.How can I pass array value from sql*plus

Procedure testproc(iarrPID  IN PID_VArray).

I want to test it this way

SQLExec testproc(?)

Tried this was 
SQLEXEC testproc(33);

ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PLS-00306: wrong number or types of arguments in call to
'testproc'
ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
PL/SQL: Statement ignored

Pls help

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sequential waits -- how to proceed

2003-06-17 Thread sat0789
Hello ALL,
   Oracle ver is 9.2 running on EMC array. I am executing a pl/sql
   procedure which does an update on a fact table. There is an unique
   index on the fact, with clearly shows up in the explain plan for
   udapte.
I ran 10046 event for a 18 min duration during this update process and
then killed it.
On doing a tkprof on the trace file with waits set to Y, i get 

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent 
  rows
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
 0
Execute 470509238.311091.93 1178541413284 479488 
470508
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0 
 0
--- --   -- -- -- -- 
--
total   470510238.311091.94 1178541413284 479488 
470508

Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 36  (NEVADMIN)   (recursive depth: 1)

Rows Row Source Operation
---  ---
 470508  UPDATE  (cr=1413396 r=117854 w=0 time=1049454599 us)
 470509   INDEX UNIQUE SCAN DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK (cr=1411527 r=3916
 w=0 time=49102823 us)(object id 31693)


Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  UPDATE STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 470508   UPDATE OF 'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST'
 470509INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 
   'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK' (UNIQUE)


Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times   Max. Wait  Total
  Waited
     Waited  -- 
  
  db file sequential read1178542.81   
  935.80
  log file switch completion 191.00 
  2.23
  log file switch (checkpoint incomplete)211.00
  17.45
  log buffer space20.07 
  0.07


As you can see the wait on db file sequential read is 935 ...i am
thinking it is in sec or is it centisec ??
i can see a degradation of perf as time continues. After 10 min , the
number of rows updated stays at 150 rows/sec which is pretty bad. 
I have figured out the db file, table and block by looking into p1,p2. 
That table is partioned and all the partitions are present on the same
tbs. It has 2 -- 8 gb files and p1 consistently points to either of the 2
data files.
I would like your help in trying to find out how to proceed from here ?.
I am stuck.
Ohter than moving the data files aound to different file systems ans
spreading them around, is there anything else thaty i can do to figure
out this problem.

Thanks,

Sathish.

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Re: Passing array as input to procedure from sqlplus-HELP

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Baumgartel
You will have to write an anonymous block that declares the array
variable, and passes that array to your procedure under test.

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 Procedure testproc(iarrPIDIN PID_VArray).
 
 I want to test it this way
 
 SQLExec testproc(?)
 
 Tried this was 
 SQLEXEC testproc(33);
 
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-06550: line 1, column 7:
 PLS-00306: wrong number or types of arguments in call to
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Re: Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 in a RAC environment?

2003-06-17 Thread Steve Perry



I can't speak for Clariion on Sun, 
but I support Win2K/Oracle 8.1.7on aClariion fc4700 and 
Sym 8530. 
The sym has been great. The Clariion 
is pretty good, but is a bit slower than the sym. It's much easier to 
manage though. 
It hasn't quite lived up the promise 
of being able to upgrade it without shuttingdown.there were2 
instances where something that should be a hot upgrade crashed our system. 
Another time a flare upgrade required me to update all the clients which 
requiredme to reboot them. Even with these issues, I'm very happy with our 
EMC hardware.

One last story.
I ran into an interesting issue with 
the Clariion last Wednesday. I just setup a new QA server andneeded to 
test thesnap start command that runs on all of our servers attached to the 
Clariion. To my surprise, and everyone in the Dev and QA, it caused the Clariion 
to reboot and pulling the drives out from all attached systems. I have dual 
paths setup on it, but Powerpath won't help you when both processors get 
rebooted. EMC couldn't believe it, so when their engineer got there, I ran the 
script on another server and all was well. I then ran it onthe 
newserver and sure enough -it rebooted. After getting no answer from 
them, I uninstalled and reinstalled the ADMsnap software and it worked without 
rebooting. go figure.

MS jabbing
I'm more inclined to blame MS and not 
EMC for the problems ;)

/MS jabbing

Steve

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  Subject: Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 
  in a RAC environment?
  
  Looking at purchasing an EMCClarion Cx400 for our 2 Sun Fire 
  280R Solaris 9 machines.
  
  Wondering if anyone is currently using this Storage system and how it 
  performs. Any outstanding issues/concerns we should know about. Did your 
  system admin attend a class on taking care of this storage solution? We will 
  be running Veritas Database Edition for Oracle 9i R2 RAC.
  
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RE: MySQL in the future? (OT)

2003-06-17 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
In that article, unless I missed it, they didn't mention the deal between
SAP and MySQL.
SAP, MySQL Sign Open-Source Database Deal (By MARC L. SONGINI, JUNE 02,
2003, Computerworld)
SAP AG last week said it plans to hand off lead development of its SAP DB
database software to MySQL AB and work with MySQL to deliver an
enterprise-class version of that company's namesake open-source database.
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/erp/story/0,10801,81711,00.html

I think MySQL is definitely worth learning. You can find it for a whole
bunch of different platforms here:
http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-4.0.html

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News
 How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like
 Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL
 could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM
 in the database market. MySQL is making inroads as a database
 alternative for small businesses or departmentally inside larger
 enterprises. Ultimately, the groundswell of support for MySQL could
 propel it on a Linux-like course to stardom as companies look to
 reduce TCO for databases. 
 
 For the full details, click:
 http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2221901 
 
  Interesting article Is this the wave of the future for the small
 consultant??
 
  If the CEO is smart he will start a certification program and release
 upgrades every 18 months. It keeps the revenue comming it.
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RE: Anyone using EMC Clarion Cx400 in a RAC environment?

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing



Hi,

One 
incident (first year or usage) the fiber card driver crash and zombie processes 
occur. IO hang, database down.
DB 
cannot fail over to standby server, primary server cannot shutdown, shutdown 
abort can't help, physically power off server is require.


I 
don't think is the EMC problem but the fiber card.

Sinardy



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  Looking at purchasing an EMCClarion Cx400 for our 2 Sun Fire 
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  Wondering if anyone is currently using this Storage system and how it 
  performs. Any outstanding issues/concerns we should know about. Did your 
  system admin attend a class on taking care of this storage solution? We will 
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is it SP2 or SP3 -- 9iR2 on Win2K ?

2003-06-17 Thread Prem Khanna J
Dear All,

I need to install 9iR2 on Win2K Server.

Is it SP2 or SP3 ?

metalink docs say that SP1 or higher is OK.
but still found some queries posted on metalink regarding SP3  9iR2.

#$##$ ...confused :-|  !*#$$

any serious issues known already ?!

TIA.
Jp.


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Re: Compare Schema with data

2003-06-17 Thread Jay
The below links are pretty good for compare tools.  I recommend dbdiff, it
seems to be pretty complete.

http://www.torry.net/tools_dbcompare.htm
http://www.dkgadvancedsolutions.com/dbdiff.htm

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 Rich,

 I meant that I would compare the 2 insert statements files with the
 files compare of TOAD instead of comparing with sdiff.  It's a lot
easier
 to see the differences between the files.

 At 13:55 2003-06-17 -0800, you wrote:
 Hi Louis,
 
 That sounds cool, but where can you compare table data in TOAD?  The only
 options I see (TOAD 7.5 registered and TOAD 7.5.3.28 BETA w/DBA module)
are
 for the object definitions of schemas and not the data itself.
 
 Rich
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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   Subject: RE: Compare Schema with data
  
  
   I think that's a good way to do it but I would use the
   Compare files of
   TOAD which is much nicer to look at than sdiff.
   At 11:04 2003-06-17 -0800, you wrote:
   TOAD v7.5 will allow you to export INSERT statements of
   all the data in a
   table.  I've FTP'd these INSERT statements to a Unix box to
   run sdiff -s
   between the files in order to get the differences.  Yes, it's a bit
   manual, but the price is right (ours was $350/copy back
   in the 1900s).
   You can evaluate TOAD by filling out the contact form at:
   
   http://www.quest.com/toad/
   
   ...and click on the Download Trial link on the left.
   
   
   HTH!
   
   Rich
   
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 I think DB Artisan Change Manager will do it.

  -Original Message-
  Is any body know any tools for comparing two schema for only
  data comparison
   create script for the result
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Re: sequential waits -- how to proceed

2003-06-17 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Your pl/sql procedure is obviously doing a sql  per row updated rather than 
a set update. Unless you change the procedure you can expect only marginal 
improvement from any other measure.

At 03:29 PM 6/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Hello ALL,
   Oracle ver is 9.2 running on EMC array. I am executing a pl/sql
   procedure which does an update on a fact table. There is an unique
   index on the fact, with clearly shows up in the explain plan for
   udapte.
I ran 10046 event for a 18 min duration during this update process and
then killed it.
On doing a tkprof on the trace file with waits set to Y, i get
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
  rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
 0
Execute 470509238.311091.93 1178541413284 479488
470508
Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
 0
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total   470510238.311091.94 1178541413284 479488
470508
Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 36  (NEVADMIN)   (recursive depth: 1)
Rows Row Source Operation
---  ---
 470508  UPDATE  (cr=1413396 r=117854 w=0 time=1049454599 us)
 470509   INDEX UNIQUE SCAN DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK (cr=1411527 r=3916
 w=0 time=49102823 us)(object id 31693)
Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  UPDATE STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
 470508   UPDATE OF 'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST'
 470509INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
   'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK' (UNIQUE)
Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
  Event waited on Times   Max. Wait  Total
  Waited
     Waited  --
  
  db file sequential read1178542.81
  935.80
  log file switch completion 191.00
  2.23
  log file switch (checkpoint incomplete)211.00
  17.45
  log buffer space20.07
  0.07

As you can see the wait on db file sequential read is 935 ...i am
thinking it is in sec or is it centisec ??
i can see a degradation of perf as time continues. After 10 min , the
number of rows updated stays at 150 rows/sec which is pretty bad.
I have figured out the db file, table and block by looking into p1,p2.
That table is partioned and all the partitions are present on the same
tbs. It has 2 -- 8 gb files and p1 consistently points to either of the 2
data files.
I would like your help in trying to find out how to proceed from here ?.
I am stuck.
Ohter than moving the data files aound to different file systems ans
spreading them around, is there anything else thaty i can do to figure
out this problem.
Thanks,

Sathish.

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system_call

2003-06-17 Thread Bryan, Miriam
Hello list,
I was wondering if someone out there can help me.  I'm trying to use the
system_call external procedure. It's running fine on my development box,
but it was there before my time. What do I need to do to get it running on
my test server? or any server for that matter.


TIA,

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Re: exchange partition in 9.2

2003-06-17 Thread Arup Nanda
Are you using UPDATE GLOBAL INDEXES clause in the ALTER TABLE EXCHANGE
PARTITION? This causes significant IO.

Try tracing the session using 10046 trace and see exactly what statements
are being issued.

ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context forever, level 8';
ALTER TABLE EXCHANGE 
ALTER SESSION SET EVENTS '10046 trace name context off';

See the trace file generated in udump; this should tell you the p1 and p2
values of the db file ... reads, which you use to get the segment
information from dba_extents.

Another option, and much better one, is using Oracle Trace, which lets you
see these p1 and p2 values in the database.

HTH.

Arup

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 Arup and Jacques:

 thanks for your help.

 The command we are executing is alter table exchange
 partition ... with table .. include indexes. We have
 also a PK on each of the tables (local index on a
 partitioned table). Go global indices. We have tried
 the same command with novalidate and the results
 were the same.

 Any thougths?
 --- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Did you say alter table exchange partition ...
  validate or alter table exchange partition ...
  novalidate? If you say novalidate then Oracle will
  sort the exchange table to make sure that you are
  not creating duplicate rows for the PK constraint.
  There is a Metalink note on that.
  Does the table have a PK enforced by a locally
  partitioned unique index? Any global indexes?
  What options did you have on the exchange partition
  statement?
 
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   We are having an interesting issue with the
  exchange
   partition command in our shop. We are running
  oracle
   9202 on AIX 5l. The exchange partition command
  used
   to take about 1 sec (or less) in our old
  environmen
   (oracle 81 Dynix 4.3.3). Now the same operation
  takes
   about a minute and creates a ton of IO. an Oracle
  rep
   said that this has to do something with the way
   exchange partition now treats primary and unique
  keys.
   Recently however a DBA on my team did 4 exchanges
  in a
   row between the same two tables. First one took
  about
   45s and did a lot of IO. next one took almost no
  time
   and no IO (and it did move the data), the next one
   -
   again 45s and IOs, the fourth one - no time again.
   Does any one has any experience with this issue
  and
   may be can shed some light on it.
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Re: How to stop script

2003-06-17 Thread jinchen
Thanks! That's exactly what I need!
Jin
Quoting Pete Finnigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi
 
 You can stop the script by using the line
 
 whenever sqlerror exit rollback
 
 and then generating an error by using an exception in a PL/SQL block as
 follows:
 
 oracle:jupiter cat imp.sql
 whenever sqlerror exit rollback
 declare
 cursor c_db is
 select name from v$database;
 lv_db c_db%rowtype;
 no_database exception;
 wrong_database exception;
 pragma exception_init(no_database,-5101);
 pragma exception_init(wrong_database,-5102);
 begin
 open c_db;
 fetch c_db into lv_db;
 if c_db%notfound then
 close c_db;
 raise no_database;
 else
 if lv_db.name'TEST' then
 close c_db;
 raise wrong_database;
 end if;
 end if;
 close c_db;
 dbms_output.put_line('Running on database : '||lv_db.name);
 exception
 when no_database then
 dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: could not find database');
 raise_application_error(-20100,'ERROR - no database');
 when wrong_database then
 dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: wrong database');
 raise_application_error(-20101,'ERROR - wrong
 database');
 when others then
 dbms_output.put_line('ERROR: unknown error');
 raise_application_error(-20101,'ERROR - unknown error');
 end;
 /
 
 select user from sys.dual;
 
 -- end of script imp.sql
 
 then run it as follows
 
 SQL @imp
 declare
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-20101: ERROR - wrong database
 ORA-06512: at line 29
 
 
 Disconnected from Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.0.0 -
 Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 9.0.1.0.0 - Production
 oracle:jupiter
 
 i added the select user from sys.dual to show the script stops
 processing.
 
 hope this helps
 
 kind regards
 
 Pete
 
  
 However, I want to check database name at the beginning of import.sql. I
 knew 
 select name from v$database can obtain database name. But how can I stop
 the 
 script if I found it is not TEST database? In import.sql, it is like: 
  
 drop user A cascade;
 create user A ; 
 host imp A/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=a.dmp full=yes; 
 // some PL/SQL ...
  
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Re: sequential waits -- how to proceed

2003-06-17 Thread sat0789
Thanks for your reply ...

I understand that it is a sql per row update but the same update on UAT
environment works at a rate of 
about 2000 rows per sec. Though the data volume is definetly less
compared to PROD, still there is night and day difference between prod
and uat..In terms of the tables themselves, they are analyzed and the
explain plan for update also looks exactly the same bet the environments.
Both the instances are off the same SAN. 

Sathish.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:00:00 -0800, Wolfgang Breitling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Your pl/sql procedure is obviously doing a sql  per row updated rather
 than 
 a set update. Unless you change the procedure you can expect only
 marginal 
 improvement from any other measure.
 
 At 03:29 PM 6/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
 Hello ALL,
 Oracle ver is 9.2 running on EMC array. I am executing a pl/sql
 procedure which does an update on a fact table. There is an unique
 index on the fact, with clearly shows up in the explain plan for
 udapte.
 I ran 10046 event for a 18 min duration during this update process and
 then killed it.
 On doing a tkprof on the trace file with waits set to Y, i get
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
   0
 Execute 470509238.311091.93 1178541413284 479488
 470508
 Fetch0  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
   0
 --- --   -- -- -- --
 --
 total   470510238.311091.94 1178541413284 479488
 470508
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 36  (NEVADMIN)   (recursive depth: 1)
 
 Rows Row Source Operation
 ---  ---
   470508  UPDATE  (cr=1413396 r=117854 w=0 time=1049454599 us)
   470509   INDEX UNIQUE SCAN DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK (cr=1411527 r=3916
   w=0 time=49102823 us)(object id 31693)
 
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
0  UPDATE STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   470508   UPDATE OF 'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST'
   470509INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (UNIQUE SCAN) OF
 'DM_ACTUAL_CASHFLOW_HIST_UK' (UNIQUE)
 
 
 Elapsed times include waiting on following events:
Event waited on Times   Max. Wait  Total
Waited
   Waited  --

db file sequential read1178542.81
935.80
log file switch completion 191.00
2.23
log file switch (checkpoint incomplete)211.00
17.45
log buffer space20.07
0.07
 
 
 As you can see the wait on db file sequential read is 935 ...i am
 thinking it is in sec or is it centisec ??
 i can see a degradation of perf as time continues. After 10 min , the
 number of rows updated stays at 150 rows/sec which is pretty bad.
 I have figured out the db file, table and block by looking into p1,p2.
 That table is partioned and all the partitions are present on the same
 tbs. It has 2 -- 8 gb files and p1 consistently points to either of the 2
 data files.
 I would like your help in trying to find out how to proceed from here ?.
 I am stuck.
 Ohter than moving the data files aound to different file systems ans
 spreading them around, is there anything else thaty i can do to figure
 out this problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sathish.
 
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Re: sequential waits -- how to proceed

2003-06-17 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Does the UAT have the same data volume, same nr of rows and blocks in the 
table being updated?

At 08:49 PM 6/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Thanks for your reply ...

I understand that it is a sql per row update but the same update on UAT
environment works at a rate of
about 2000 rows per sec. Though the data volume is definetly less
compared to PROD, still there is night and day difference between prod
and uat..In terms of the tables themselves, they are analyzed and the
explain plan for update also looks exactly the same bet the environments.
Both the instances are off the same SAN.
Wolfgang Breitling
Centrex Consulting Corporation
http://www.centrexcc.com
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Oracle RDBMS for Win XP

2003-06-17 Thread Sinardy Xing
Hi all,

Do you install Oracle RDBMS (maybe personal edition) with Win XP?

Will that work?


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