[OGD] Revolutionary CITES proposal for nursery certification.

2007-07-01 Thread Orchids Limited
If possible It would be nice to keep this post up 
for one week to allow people to see it and comment.


CITES proposal for nursery certification,  By Jerry Lee Fischer 07,01,07


To all interested in the subject of Orchid 
species and hybrids as imports or exports,

Recent changes in CITES requirements have made it 
difficult for nurseries, and hobbyists alike to 
not only import plants from foreign countries 
directly but even acquire them from nurseries in 
the country in which hobbyists and professional growers live.

In the US for example the requirements are that a 
nursery must now have a master permit. Every 
plant to be exported whether it is a species or 
hybrid must be approved by the US Fish and 
Wildlife authorities with information on the 
propagation methods (whether from seed, cuttings 
or cloning techniques) if not then whom the 
plants were purchased from with receipts, pot 
sizes of plants in stock, annual production, 
number of plants to be exported each year, 
whether parental stock is maintained and how 
many, from seed or cuttings etc. and number of years in production.

Imagine filling out such a permit (in my case it 
took 250 hours) and then imagine it taking 9 
months to a year to get it. The idea is that once 
you get this permit single issue copies are 
purchased in advance and the nursery owner can 
fill them out when orders are received and ship 
them out rather quickly compared to the old 
system of waiting 3-6 months for a single use 
permit. In the mean time orders cannot be 
processed and commercial growers are put in 
situation of economic hardship. Adding any new 
plants to your permit requires all the same 
detailed information, costs a lot and there is no 
guarantee that the permits will arrive in a 
timely manner. Several US growers have given up 
on exports and many more will follow suit.

Hybrids have become another problem, as one has 
to either be approved for specific hybrids on the 
master permit or have to be approved for specific 
species that make up the hybrid. At the moment 
you have to list on your permit the species that 
make up the hybrids that you want to export. This 
takes a great deal of time and is really 
counterproductive. It often requires 20 to 35 
hours to complete a permit. The US Fish and 
Wildlife service has come up with a way of 
amending your permit to accept hybrids but it 
still requires reporting and is limited to certain hybrids.

The various countries management authorities and 
CITES officials are, I believe unaware of the 
great advances in the laboratory production of 
orchids that have taken place within the past few 
years. Nurseries are now able to reproduce in 
reasonable numbers those plants that were once 
considered difficult or even impossible to 
produce. The continued over-regulation of 
artificially propagated plants and the nurseries 
that produce them is in my opinion a complete 
waste of CITES resources. The entire reason CITES 
was created in the first place was to protect 
wild populations of living organisms that were 
threatened by trade. This is what it says in the 
first paragraph on 
http://www.cites.org/www.cites.org home page, 
“CITES (the Convention on International Trade in 
Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora) is an 
international agreement between governments. Its 
aim is to ensure that international trade in 
specimens of wild animals and plants does not 
threaten their survival.” If anything the rapid 
artificial production and propagation of orchid 
plants helps to ensure that wild stock will 
remain where it is. Many of our nurseries are 
really no longer trading in wild stock at all. Why over-regulate it?

Recent examples of how things have changed can be 
found in PERU where no wild collecting for export 
is allowed. All plants must now be produced at 
the approved nurseries from seed or division of 
established stock. Phragmipedium kovachii would 
never have been allowed for export legally except 
for the work of serious nursery owners and the 
Peruvian government. By allowing a few plants to 
be collected and used for seed propagation via 
tissue culture these plants are now all over the 
world and the demand for wild plants no longer 
exists. Other countries like Ecuador and Brazil are following suit.



If continued restriction and over-regulation 
continues in its present state there will be less 
and less plants available and eventually the 
hobby itself will be threatened. Orchid Societies 
memberships would begin to decline, as there 
would be no new plant material for hobbyists to 
be interested in. Nurseries interested in growing 
and exporting species or hybrids have already 
declined in The US and other parts of the globe. 
The process or acquiring export permits has 
become so onerous that some nurseries have chosen 
to give up their export business. Many without 
the ability to export will not survive.

There is an important synergy between Orchid 
Societies, hobbyists and 

[OGD] Revolutionary CITES proposal for nursery certification

2007-07-01 Thread peter croezen
Jerry Lee Fischer who said:

The CITES treaty clearly states that any and all 
orchid seedlings traded in vitro are exempt from 
CITES regulations as long as a phyto accompanies 
them. 


Jerry I do not believe what you say is totally accurate.

It is my understanding that  besides sterile in-vitro certification, 
phytosanitary documents as you mention, there is 
another requirement for Appendix I orchid seedlings in-vitro crossing 
International borders.

CITES Appendix 1 orchid species seedlings in-vitro must have been Artificially 
Propagated from seeds of legally collected parents.(A.P.as per CITES 
definition) 

Example: In the case of Phragmipedium kovachii this is taken care of if the Pk 
in-vitro orchid seedlings were obtained 
from an INRENA licensed Pk nursery like Centro de Jardineria Manrique, who's 
INRENA Pk collecting permit # is 001.
However, if an   INRENA  registered Pk nursery uses seeds from plants other 
than the legally collected ones, the in-vitro
seedlings are illegal.

Finally, I believe we may conclude that  CITES Appendix I orchid seedlings 
in-vitro, are illegal, if propagated from illegal plants, or obtained from a 
nursery
not licensed to AP propagate the CITES Appendix I species.

 
peter

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[OGD] Revolutionary CITES proposal for nursery certification.

2007-07-01 Thread Peter O'Byrne
Hi Jerry.

Regarding your two Revolutionary CITES proposals for nursery certification:

Your Proposal #1. I'm not going to comment, not because I have no
opinions, but because I'd rather focus on your

Your Proposal #2. Certify nurseries that are truly growing, or buying
for resale orchids that are artificially propagated.

This provision already exists under CITES. Go to the CITES homepage at:

http://www.cites.org/

and type Registered nurseries into their search engine. I got 107 hits.

The key document is Conf. 9.19 (Rev. CoP13) Guidelines for the registration
of nurseries exporting artificially propagated specimens of Appendix-I
species, which is at:

http://www.cites.org/eng/res/all/09/E09-19R13.pdf

This document says you can already do exactly what your Proposal 2
suggests, at least for Appendix 1 plants.

A list of registered nurseries is provided at:

http://www.cites.org/common/reg/nu/e-nu-beg.shtml

When last updated, there were 101 CITES-registered nurseries, the
majority being in India. I see that the Moreno's Colomborquideas
nursery in Colombia is CITES registered (Number P-CO-1001). The number
of registered nurseries in the USA is zero. I strongly suspect the
reason for this astonishing low number can be found in the 3rd
paragraph on the right-side column of the 1st page of the summary
document on:

http://www.cites.org/eng/cop/09/doc/E9-Doc-30-32.pdf

which says It may therefore very well be that the Management
Authority of a country of origin does not wish to introduce such a
facilitation.

Yes, CITES gave the US Management Authority the right to refuse
registration of US nurseries. Jerry, I think you are proposing to
address the wrong people. Instead of petitioning CITES in Geneva, you
should talk to your local representatives (ie, in the USA) about
registering your nursery under the existing CITES provisions.

Good luck.

Peter O'Byrne
Still under a rock in Singapore

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