Re: [Origami] Q for US folders

2021-05-20 Thread Winnie Leung
Not strictly for origami but Awagami has a really nice mixed bag of different 
types of washi paper of different sizes at a pretty good price.

I have seen it in Australia so you should be able to get it in the US.

Note that most of the paper are not square, and you’ll need to find your own 
cutter and bonefolder.

Alternatively look at https://www.origamishop.us/ and see what they have. The 
French equivalent has various sample packs that you can get, so there might be 
some in the US shop as well.




Re: [Origami] Origami

2021-05-20 Thread Anne LaVin
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 7:39 PM Keith Garner  wrote:

> Does anybody talk about origami anymore? I don’t want to sound mean or
> anything like that, however, if origami and origami issue are not the main
> topic, please have me removed from this list.
>

As I said at the beginning of this discussion, perhaps it got buried:

We are offering this list as a neutral forum to provide a home for this
important discussion for a short time.

All the posts have "CoC" in their subject, so you can filter those messages
away if you're not interested in this topic; Gmail in particular has
extremely powerful filtering capabilities, see this help topic for
assistance: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6579?hl=en

But the list, which is and always has been what you all make of it, is
still running, and anyone should feel free to talk about any other
origami-related things, of course!

But if anyone wishes to (temporarily) have their list mail suspended - keep
their subscription, but have no mail delivered to them - I'm happy to do so
for the duration of the conversation, and will turn it back on when things
have settled.

Send email to the list admin help address (not my personal address!) here,
for help:  

Anne


[Origami] Giving away Paper/books in Central Ohio (USA) area

2021-05-20 Thread J Piette
All,

Sadly I find that I no longer have time to fold Origami, and would like to
hand off the paper and books that I have to someone who will get enjoyment
from them.  There is no charge -- I just want them to go to a "good home"
where they will be used.

What:  Shelf of origami books, including: several convention books from
Origami USA, beginner folding books, books in english and japanese.  Most
of what I have is for modular origami.  At least a couple are out of print.
  Also included is a nice stash of paper in sizes from 1 inch to 12
inches.  Mostly 3 and 6 inch squares.

Who:  I'm offering what I have for free to the first person who is willing
to pick up from a neutral location in the Central Ohio (Columbus) area.


[Origami] Origami

2021-05-20 Thread Keith Garner
Does anybody talk about origami anymore? I don’t want to sound mean or anything 
like that, however, if origami and origami issue are not the main topic, please 
have me removed from this list.

Sent from my book of wonder

Re: [Origami] COC: Rules of conduct (RoC) and Centerfold.

2021-05-20 Thread Carol Martinson
Lest someone be frightened off from writing reports, the reason sworn 
statements were required in the incidents that I mentioned earlier was that we 
were considered witnesses.  Mine was a defamation of character case between two 
non city employees and the other one was a person seeking damages for a fall 
down the stairs where there were no eye witnesses but the employee heard the 
fall take place.  In both situations the only support we got from the city was 
tell the truth.

It is unlikely that there will be a lot of reports in a convention setting.  
It’s just that they will be documented in case any further questions arise.  

Anyway, the types of incidents which may create problems are likely the type 
where there are consequences from both not writing reports and from writing 
reports.  Having a code and taking it seriously offers greater protection for 
the organizers, victims, and the accused individuals in the rare situations 
someone is lying.  And, as Anne said, if the report writer is untrustworthy and 
lies, eventually that usually is also revealed through the reports they write 
(or ignore writing).   Also, as Anne speculated, eventually the library 
designated people who could write the reports although any staff member could 
and was expected to take information if a designated writer was not immediately 
available.

Again, I am not a lawyer but am writing from the unique perspective of having 
lots of years of practical experience.

I am more afraid of the consequences of not writing reports, even without the 
support of lawyers and an HR department.

Carol Martinson 



Sent from my iPad

> On May 20, 2021, at 7:04 AM, Anne LaVin  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 3:24 PM Anne LaVin  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I will be an ally.  
> 
> I was reminded, off-list, that even general community efforts towards CoCs 
> and related behavior can be somewhat fraught: in this example, I am only 
> potentially useful as an ally for someone in trouble *if I can be trusted*. I 
> like to think that I could be, but a complete stranger has no way of knowing 
> this, of course. And a Bad Actor could do exactly as I have done in order to 
> get close to someone vulnerable. People do suck, sometimes.
> 
> Just goes to show that this stuff is Not Easy. And that in a convention/event 
> context, it's probable that the Con organizers would have to designate 
> "official" folks to be available to help, if only for their own liability.
> 
> Still, it's the community as a whole that can work towards creating an 
> appropriate and welcoming culture, and that's still on all of *us*.
> 
> Anne


[Origami] Q for US folders

2021-05-20 Thread wanderer
hi all, i know there are many books that are great primers and intros to
origami...
i was wondering if there was something similar on the paper front. is there
an easy to find/get/send a starter paper kit - with paper cutter and bone
folder and diff size papers etc?
of course i could put it together but a pre-made kit would be so helpful.

you are welcome to write me off-list or not with this info. i would like to
send something like this to a friend's son who is 14-15 right now and is
interested in origami but doesnt have paper...

thank you
vishakha
nyc


Re: [Origami] COC: Rules of conduct (RoC) and Centerfold.

2021-05-20 Thread Anne LaVin
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 3:24 PM Anne LaVin  wrote:

>
> *I will be an ally.  *
>

I was reminded, off-list, that even general community efforts towards CoCs
and related behavior can be somewhat fraught: in this example, I am only
potentially useful as an ally for someone in trouble *if I can be trusted*.
I like to think that I could be, but a complete stranger has no way of
knowing this, of course. And a Bad Actor could do exactly as I have done in
order to get close to someone vulnerable. People do suck, sometimes.

Just goes to show that this stuff is Not Easy. And that in a
convention/event context, it's probable that the Con organizers would have
to designate "official" folks to be available to help, if only for their
own liability.

Still, it's the community as a whole that can work towards creating an
appropriate and welcoming culture, and that's still on all of *us*.

Anne


[Origami] CoC: Thoughts on Common Objections

2021-05-20 Thread Brian Chan
There are a handful of objections to having a CoC that I see coming up
in the discussions, that I would paraphrase as "It would be hard to
enforce" or "It can be used dishonestly" which beg the question, is it
really better to not bother at all?

If the answer is yes, then the only rules that remain would then be 1)
law enforcement and 2) whatever the organizers deem unacceptable. In
my opinion these are both inferior to having a CoC. Honestly if it's
going to be 1) ("Just don't break laws") I think I don't need to
elaborate why it would be a woefully deficient set of guidelines. A
lot of harassment isn't breaking the law but has no place in a
convention. Enough said.

This leaves option 2), organizers acting on their own set of
principles; but if that's the case, why not write out some of those
principles so we know what to expect? What kind of complaint would be
dismissed, what would be taken seriously? How do I know that the
volunteer or organizer isn't acting strongly on their own personal
biases rather than an agreed upon set of rules?

The other common form of objection is that "some rules are ridiculous,
and/or too specific". This is an easy answer. If organizers don't like
such rules, they can omit them from their code of conduct.

There is a balance though, between what is too vague and what is too
specific. If the only guideline is "don't be a jerk" or "have common
sense" be warned that people have differing concepts of "common
sense". Even "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is
incomplete because of different people's expectations. Imagine trying
to enforce that in the presence of a masochist, for example.

Rules change depending on the context and culture of the event. For
example, I would imagine there are a lot of things that are acceptable
at Burning Man that would get you kicked out of most origami cons. Or
maybe you want to run a convention in the style of Burning Man? Even
if the only rule is solely "Don't break laws", it's better to have
that explicitly stated. That Code of Conduct is an opportunity for
convention organizers to be *transparent* about how things are run,
and to define the culture of the convention. This is great for
newcomers too, who might not know what to expect otherwise.

These are my thoughts as an "old-timer" of many conventions, origami
and otherwise.
Brian Chan