[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
congratulation, you have been invited nasr...@gmail.com naza...@gmail.com mai...@gmail.com mr...@gmail.com lya...@gmail.com from Google Wave: Google Wave is more fun when you have others to wave with, so please nominate people you would like to add. Keep in mind that this is a preview so it could be a bit rocky at times. Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick. Happy waving! Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: i want one too. lyana.ha...@gmail.com thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
vivian...@gmail.com just wanna have a try... On 11/14/09, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote: congratulation, you have been invited nasr...@gmail.com naza...@gmail.com mai...@gmail.com mr...@gmail.com lya...@gmail.com from Google Wave: Google Wave is more fun when you have others to wave with, so please nominate people you would like to add. Keep in mind that this is a preview so it could be a bit rocky at times. Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick. Happy waving! Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: i want one too. lyana.ha...@gmail.com thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
thanks :D Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: congratulation, you have been invited nasr...@gmail.com naza...@gmail.com mai...@gmail.com mr...@gmail.com lya...@gmail.com from Google Wave: Google Wave is more fun when you have others to wave with, so please nominate people you would like to add. Keep in mind that this is a preview so it could be a bit rocky at times. Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick. Happy waving! Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: i want one too. lyana.ha...@gmail.com thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
ok invited vivian :) Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM, vivian wong vivian...@gmail.com wrote: vivian...@gmail.com just wanna have a try... On 11/14/09, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote: congratulation, you have been invited nasr...@gmail.com naza...@gmail.com mai...@gmail.com mr...@gmail.com lya...@gmail.com from Google Wave: Google Wave is more fun when you have others to wave with, so please nominate people you would like to add. Keep in mind that this is a preview so it could be a bit rocky at times. Invitations will not be sent immediately. We have a lot of stamps to lick. Happy waving! Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:36 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: i want one too. lyana.ha...@gmail.com thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
thankss..! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
bro ada lagi tak, invite me to tilm...@gmail.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: thankss..! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry bro, tiket dah habis. Kepada invitees yang dapat tiket nanti, sila invite rakan-rakan yang belum dapat, ok. cuma 8 tiket yang google bagi. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: bro ada lagi tak, invite me to tilm...@gmail.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, LyanaHamka lyana.ha...@gmail.com wrote: thankss..! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.comwrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
too bad..memang betul situasi ni.. tapi tak semua benda baru dapat sesempurna mungkin.. lagipun ada beberapa bugs yang sebelum ni jadi masalah dah diselesaikan.. dan tak mustahil masalah ni akan berlarutan..sebab 9.10 tak sampai sebulan lagi keluarannya.. saya cadang boleh la kembali ke versi sebelum (kalau terdesak sangat)..atau cuba distro lain buat sementara..kekal pun tak apa..terbuka sikit pandangan Linux.. sudah cuba OpenSuSE 11.3..not bad :) macam saya sekarang, ubuntu 9.10 dah selesaikan bugs nvidia driver dengan pulse audio.. sayang broadband modem tak boleh read pulak.. red1 wrote: Freedom Opensource Resource Centre of Excellence should look into enhancing Ubuntu and brand as MyBuntu or WaBuntu (i am stuck in Bahasa) :) nantikan saja projek Malaysia Common Desktop :) Mohd Syukor Abdul wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Masalah ni untuk upgrade dari 9.04 ke 9.10, kalau fresh-install takde masalahnya. Tiap2 release ada masalah ni sejak 5 tahun lepas lagi, bukan masalah baru. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: too bad..memang betul situasi ni.. tapi tak semua benda baru dapat sesempurna mungkin.. lagipun ada beberapa bugs yang sebelum ni jadi masalah dah diselesaikan.. dan tak mustahil masalah ni akan berlarutan..sebab 9.10 tak sampai sebulan lagi keluarannya.. saya cadang boleh la kembali ke versi sebelum (kalau terdesak sangat)..atau cuba distro lain buat sementara..kekal pun tak apa..terbuka sikit pandangan Linux.. sudah cuba OpenSuSE 11.3..not bad :) macam saya sekarang, ubuntu 9.10 dah selesaikan bugs nvidia driver dengan pulse audio.. sayang broadband modem tak boleh read pulak.. red1 wrote: Freedom Opensource Resource Centre of Excellence should look into enhancing Ubuntu and brand as MyBuntu or WaBuntu (i am stuck in Bahasa) :) nantikan saja projek Malaysia Common Desktop :) Mohd Syukor Abdul wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
cubaan upgrade saya yang berjaya pertama rasanya takde masalah serius. cuma ada yang tak masuk (ubuntu software centre yang most awaited, dgn plugins dalam pidgin hilang) cubaan upgrade dari fresh installed 9.04 nampaknya semuanya berjalan lancar :) On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: bro..projek Malaysia Common Desktop tu nak jalankan balik tak? Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote: Masalah ni untuk upgrade dari 9.04 ke 9.10, kalau fresh-install takde masalahnya. Tiap2 release ada masalah ni sejak 5 tahun lepas lagi, bukan masalah baru. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: too bad..memang betul situasi ni.. tapi tak semua benda baru dapat sesempurna mungkin.. lagipun ada beberapa bugs yang sebelum ni jadi masalah dah diselesaikan.. dan tak mustahil masalah ni akan berlarutan..sebab 9.10 tak sampai sebulan lagi keluarannya.. saya cadang boleh la kembali ke versi sebelum (kalau terdesak sangat)..atau cuba distro lain buat sementara..kekal pun tak apa..terbuka sikit pandangan Linux.. sudah cuba OpenSuSE 11.3..not bad :) macam saya sekarang, ubuntu 9.10 dah selesaikan bugs nvidia driver dengan pulse audio.. sayang broadband modem tak boleh read pulak.. red1 wrote: Freedom Opensource Resource Centre of Excellence should look into enhancing Ubuntu and brand as MyBuntu or WaBuntu (i am stuck in Bahasa) :) nantikan saja projek Malaysia Common Desktop :) Mohd Syukor Abdul wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 -- just anything http://penjelajahjujur.blogspot.com/ for photography portfolio http://www.flickr.com/photos/noreena for outdoor activity portfolio http://penjelajahjujur.multiply.com/ academic information? i'll use another email :P --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Entahle syazwan...lack of fund, MDEC pun tak berminat projek tu, aku tak dapat laburkan duit untuk projek tu lagi. aku kena kerja cari duit untuk isi perut je sekarang ni. nak kawin pun belum cukup duit. jadi tunggu aku kaya macam Mark Shuttleworth nanti aku tubuhkan foundation untuk projek ni, ok! Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: bro..projek Malaysia Common Desktop tu nak jalankan balik tak? Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote: Masalah ni untuk upgrade dari 9.04 ke 9.10, kalau fresh-install takde masalahnya. Tiap2 release ada masalah ni sejak 5 tahun lepas lagi, bukan masalah baru. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: too bad..memang betul situasi ni.. tapi tak semua benda baru dapat sesempurna mungkin.. lagipun ada beberapa bugs yang sebelum ni jadi masalah dah diselesaikan.. dan tak mustahil masalah ni akan berlarutan..sebab 9.10 tak sampai sebulan lagi keluarannya.. saya cadang boleh la kembali ke versi sebelum (kalau terdesak sangat)..atau cuba distro lain buat sementara..kekal pun tak apa..terbuka sikit pandangan Linux.. sudah cuba OpenSuSE 11.3..not bad :) macam saya sekarang, ubuntu 9.10 dah selesaikan bugs nvidia driver dengan pulse audio.. sayang broadband modem tak boleh read pulak.. red1 wrote: Freedom Opensource Resource Centre of Excellence should look into enhancing Ubuntu and brand as MyBuntu or WaBuntu (i am stuck in Bahasa) :) nantikan saja projek Malaysia Common Desktop :) Mohd Syukor Abdul wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Bagus mcm tu. Teruskan wpun perlahan. Saya akan cuba jual kat mana-mana pihak yang saya jumpa. Harapan ada yang berminat. Ke arah Distro Malaysia 1) Projek Terjemahan 2) Malaysian Common Desktop 3) Sekuriti 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com: ya encik Haris, dah start dah tu, first package itiknila dah upload kat PPA, https://launchpad.net/agesys tapi setakat ni kerja hobi/masa terluang je, belum dapat nak dedicate lagi. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
ya encik Haris, dah start dah tu, first package itiknila dah upload kat PPA, https://launchpad.net/agesys tapi setakat ni kerja hobi/masa terluang je, belum dapat nak dedicate lagi. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C 2009/11/14 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Bro. Kita proceed sikit2 wpun merangkak... 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com: Entahle syazwan...lack of fund, MDEC pun tak berminat projek tu, aku tak dapat laburkan duit untuk projek tu lagi. aku kena kerja cari duit untuk isi perut je sekarang ni. nak kawin pun belum cukup duit. jadi tunggu aku kaya macam Mark Shuttleworth nanti aku tubuhkan foundation untuk projek ni, ok! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Bro. Kita proceed sikit2 wpun merangkak... 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com: Entahle syazwan...lack of fund, MDEC pun tak berminat projek tu, aku tak dapat laburkan duit untuk projek tu lagi. aku kena kerja cari duit untuk isi perut je sekarang ni. nak kawin pun belum cukup duit. jadi tunggu aku kaya macam Mark Shuttleworth nanti aku tubuhkan foundation untuk projek ni, ok! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
invite me. executab...@gmail.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Regards, Hafiz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government
hi all, if the branding war relates to IT, then I'd rather phrase it more poetically: Are we being left behind in the e-dust of the k-economy ..TM ;-) @Marcus, re: marketing of your product, you should talk to MDec, afterall their charter is to produce Msian success-stories, and you are ahead of the curve, in the sense that you already have a proven product, when the rest that MDEC is funding, are still plans on paper... Rafe if you're reading, can help Marcus on this? 1. A Malaysian SW product, should it be FOSS? --- The case for OSS is tricky one, there are viable biz models for both Open and Proprietary, I will concede. After a very brief ponder about it, OSS has an advantage in the early-cycle of the product's market maturity, where it is in the 'disruptive technology' stage and innovating like crazy... or where there are opportunities for revenue from recurring support services, like ERP and where you rapidly wanna gain market share. In more 'commoditised' SW, like an Accounting Pkg, you may want to FOSS it, to build revenue from service, ie: hosting setup, the Gillete model, give the shaver to sell the blades, or the laser/ink-jet printer model - cheap printers but revenues from consummables. But otherwise proprietary model may still apply.. Perhaps an economists can better define this issue... I'll address the other points, specifically on the losing of Branding' of MSC, and not only that the question of are we actually falling behind - in another thread - Are we being left behind in the e-Dust of the k-Economy? On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i would certainly rank ubs as among the top 5 accounting software for small business along with peachtree and quickbooks. ubs is so good, that sage software international bought into the company. and in malaysia it retails from rm700. in usa, quickbooks retails from us$100. if i am not mistaken, ubs started out as a software by a chinese secondary school teacher in penang to teach his students about accounting. his passion has made learning and using accounting software so easy and affordable for malaysian business. the value of software is not in the price but in how many have benefited from it. just ask the thousands of business owners that are using ubs. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Hi Marcus, Your email account seems to kick back after last mail to u. So i will use this instead. Thanks for the link u gave in it. Yes, it was very interesting talking to you about your project for many reasons: 1. It is a Malaysian development effort 2. It uses its own business model (saying its not FLOSS is not relevant here. It is the business experience and insight that you bring that i value) 3. We can enrich our own experience as to how best to replicate skillsets locally. Ok, i accept your point on post-uni developer training. We must make a note to caveat that - no freshie training or join in during secondary school level or younger as i alluded to about Azrul's weekend Java course for kids. Marcus wrote: Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal in Iran for the latest MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic. What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to our foregin competitors such as Merak, Mdaemon and well in some ways , MS Exchange. As a developer in a company pushing locally developed software for years in Malaysia (not project based, not customized one off solutions), i guess the biggest challenge we face is : 1. Matching salary Vs Multinational offers. You guys have any idea what CodeMaster offer fresh grads...go take a peek. 2. Lack of System developers, (tons of webs developers though..) 3. No recognition from Gov so far, ok we won the PIKOM award and an award from APMIITA (in my year apmiita first prize went to a kid who did a football website, since then we decided its not worth joining such awards) I would want to apologize as Inow sofwares are not in Open Source, so far in reality, none of our customers ask for the source nor bothered about it. I had a talk with Red1 during the mygosscon BOF and tried to learn as much as i can about how Open source helped him, in some ways though, he is still unique since he is not just dling and pushing what everyone else can do, he has somehow (despite not being a developer!) end up as a head of the project. We have met a lot of people with all kinds of emnity against us succeeding as local software, some just put as on the wayside as re-inventing the wheel, some no match for US products but at the its the local reseller here and corporate market welcome us the most. As for competent developers, i doubt pumping 8k
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Salam, Oh ya, sebut pasal terjemahan, apa sudah jadi dengan hasil terjemahan yang banyak masih di peringkat cadangan (suggestion) di launchpad tu? 2009/11/14 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Bagus mcm tu. Teruskan wpun perlahan. Saya akan cuba jual kat mana-mana pihak yang saya jumpa. Harapan ada yang berminat. Ke arah Distro Malaysia 1) Projek Terjemahan 2) Malaysian Common Desktop 3) Sekuriti 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com: ya encik Haris, dah start dah tu, first package itiknila dah upload kat PPA, https://launchpad.net/agesys tapi setakat ni kerja hobi/masa terluang je, belum dapat nak dedicate lagi. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Saya 2009/11/14 Harith hari...@gmail.com: aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
boleh invite saya? thanks! Hadi Kamarudin On 14 Nov, 21:43, Harith hari...@gmail.com wrote: aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119... On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119... On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
en. haris dan hadidah invite.. stock dah habis...hehehe -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com 2009/11/14 Hadi Kamarudin hadikamaru...@gmail.com boleh invite saya? thanks! Hadi Kamarudin On 14 Nov, 21:43, Harith hari...@gmail.com wrote: aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Salam, boleh invite saya? Terima kasih. 2009/11/14 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: nampaknye mimpi jadi kenyataan :) jangan lupa add saya tuan (jipangmenjerit [at] googlewave.com) Harith wrote: en. haris dan hadidah invite.. stock dah habis...hehehe -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com 2009/11/14 Hadi Kamarudin hadikamaru...@gmail.com boleh invite saya? thanks! Hadi Kamarudin On 14 Nov, 21:43, Harith hari...@gmail.com wrote: aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
thanks! 2009/11/14 Muhamad Hisyam Nasir gempakhost...@gmail.com Salam, boleh invite saya? Terima kasih. 2009/11/14 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com: nampaknye mimpi jadi kenyataan :) jangan lupa add saya tuan (jipangmenjerit [at] googlewave.com) Harith wrote: en. haris dan hadidah invite.. stock dah habis...hehehe -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com 2009/11/14 Hadi Kamarudin hadikamaru...@gmail.com boleh invite saya? thanks! Hadi Kamarudin On 14 Nov, 21:43, Harith hari...@gmail.com wrote: aku dah invite AJ dan Hafiz... ada lagi 2 slot... -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.comwrote: Invite dari saya dah takde. Kepada rakan2, elakkan daripada letak email dalam mesej, nanti bot spammer akan curi email anda. Anda cuma perlu reply kepada mesej ni dan nyatakan anda berminat menggunakan gmail. email anda akan dapat dilihat di bahagian From: dalam email. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut l Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:42 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: ada invites lagi? ajoha...@gmail.com thanks AJ 2009/11/14 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com bro Zeffree dah dapat invitation? tengok dalam inbox wave ada subjek Invite others to Google Wave..boleh invite dari situ. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox!http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B119. .. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Zeffree Kan mail2z...@gmail.com wrote: how to invite? Zeffree Kan bin Zainal Kan Information and Communication Technology Universiti Teknologi Petronas On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok thanks bro. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, rafe azsnal azs...@gmail.com wrote: Bro, nnt aku anto invite kat hang ok. rafe Send from my HTC Android On Nov 14, 2009 5:36 PM, Mohd Rizal Haji Atan tilm...@gmail.com wrote: ok no problem. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar bizkut...@gmail.com wrote:Sorry bro... -- Ogden Nash - The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat. -- Regards, Hafiz --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
Solution: Use Debian :) On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Mohd Syukor Abdul msyu...@searcct.gov.mywrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
invite me mynameisam...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MySecurity Community
aku dh join,,, best2,,, On Nov 15, 12:36 am, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, After our meeting today at Bangi Oldtown with 9 members . We are agreed to invite all of you guy to join our irc community for discussion about security and etc. Our agenda will sent to all after this meetup. FreeBSD/PCBSD community are happy to invite all community to join to build more strongest security among us. IRC server /server irc.mysecurity.my 80 We use port 80 because many of us have policy block default irc port 6667. For that we use port 80 so everybody can go in to irc server. Any comment and opinion are welcome. Mohd Fazli Azran PCBSD Malaysia MySecurity.my --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MySecurity Community
Kalau cakap bab security, rasanya irc server pun kena SSL jugak ni, barulah secure dari akar umbi. Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:03 AM, cikgu ayob ayob.alham...@gmail.com wrote: aku dh join,,, best2,,, On Nov 15, 12:36 am, Mohd Fazli Azran mfazliaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, After our meeting today at Bangi Oldtown with 9 members . We are agreed to invite all of you guy to join our irc community for discussion about security and etc. Our agenda will sent to all after this meetup. FreeBSD/PCBSD community are happy to invite all community to join to build more strongest security among us. IRC server /server irc.mysecurity.my 80 We use port 80 because many of us have policy block default irc port 6667. For that we use port 80 so everybody can go in to irc server. Any comment and opinion are welcome. Mohd Fazli Azran PCBSD Malaysia MySecurity.my --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
bro harith thanks AJ 2009/11/15 aminmahmood mynameisam...@gmail.com invite me mynameisam...@gmail.com -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbachhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
masalah online upgrade... aku jadi mangsa... padan muka aku.. sapa suruh online upgrade.. x sabar nak balik rumah hendak melihat opensuse 11.1 ke opensuse 11.2... apa akan jadi kah seperti sang koala? :-D ... To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Selasih Net Enterprise we never sleep, we just park our head On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Solution: Use Debian :) On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Mohd Syukor Abdul msyu...@searcct.gov.my wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
HusnulHadi, Hafiz Thanks to both of you coming from UKM Bangi to spend time in Starbucks The Curve last week with Yun also to brainstorm about what we can focus and work on. Yes we may not have the right resources, but it is resourcefulness that we have. Memberi sesuatu kepada orang lain lebih baik dari menerimanya. Dengan memberi kepada teman-teman kat varsiti seluruh negara boleh membawa satu evolusi perubahan bahawa menerusi sumber terbuka kita kini sudah merdeka. Hadi Kamarudin wrote: Yah, sure to use all the resources! =D sy akn brpulun d ukm n apply mak bpk grant gk hahaa, tq sifu! hait! On 12 Nov, 09:41, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Kini kertas kerja hambo sudah hampiak siap. Namun sudah boleh kasi panas-panas ke sesiapa makhluk bukan asing di luar sini supaya disuahakan secara berkelompok.http://red1.org/MSC8.pdfhttp://red1.org/MSC8.zip Sesiapa yang ingin mengambil bahagian menjayakan di universiti masing2 - komisen dua puluh persenn!! (take part as Business Development Head or i trained as Centre Head of respective university) This can also be a paper for apa-apa mak bapak grant to the govt. Please go ahead and exploit this. It is declared under Creative Commons 3.5 ala GPLv3. red1On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:32 PM, red1r...@red1.orgwrote:After a short struggle this year long, i can now smile that at least few people can now come up to me and say, Mr. Redhuan. I finally am enlightened of what the hell you been screaming about. FOSS is not about the code. It is about branding in a blue ocean. Inspired by such new taliban, I spent these 2 days writing up a simple plan for us to consider as Malaysia's Gift to the world.http://www.red1.org/MSC8.pdfIt is exported from AppleMac Keynote (manyak dasyot the animation, so if you really wana see the movie, belanja me free teh tarik). So please discuss or vote for acceptance and make it our key flagship. Whether it become reality or not we leave to Allah. Our tugas is done. WARNING: If you do not vote or counter then your tugas to Allah/Karma/Tao/Money is not done. In a few years its 2012, possibly a magnetic pole shift, sending chaos and 90% world population to alam lain. Mana tahu, Malaysia is the next superpower to continue in the new alam. :) red1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Letter for Dr. M meeting
trimas! berminat nk ikut..hahaa btul2 dh lama x tgk video 'perjuangan yang belum selesai' tuh,bleh wat lakonan skali =P On 13 Nov, 22:44, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: The letter should be about kunjungan hormat ke Tun oleh OSDC.my and asking his advice on how best to perjuangkan sesuatu yang baru. Same time we like to update Tun on open source future and value to Malaysia, generasi depan and the world. Sesiapa yang nak ikut nanti baik sediakan sajak ke 'perjuangan yang belum habis'? :) Hadi Kamarudin wrote:can u share the important points of the letter? tq On 13 Nov, 12:13, red1r...@red1.orgwrote:Yun, As requested by Dr. M's office, please facilitate that cover letter and we then get Haris as our honourable protem Chairman to sign. red1 p/s i tried to send this email to osdc private list but it got kicked back. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
Hi red1, don't you think it's better to sent private email to hadi n hafiz instead of public? Because other would like or doesn't wanton to know at all. Regards, Sent using Android On Nov 15, 2009 8:18 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: HusnulHadi, Hafiz Thanks to both of you coming from UKM Bangi to spend time in Starbucks The Curve last week with Yun also to brainstorm about what we can focus and work on. Yes we may not have the right resources, but it is resourcefulness that we have. Memberi sesuatu kepada orang lain lebih baik dari menerimanya. Dengan memberi kepada teman-teman kat varsiti seluruh negara boleh membawa satu evolusi perubahan bahawa menerusi sumber terbuka kita kini sudah merdeka. Hadi Kamarudin wrote: Yah, sure to use all the resources! =D sy akn brpulun d ukm n apply mak bpk grant gk hahaa, tq sifu! hait! On 12 Nov, 09:41, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Kini kertas kerja hambo sudah hampiak siap. Namun sudah boleh kasi panas-panas ke sesiapa makhluk bukan asing di luar sini supaya disuahakan secara berkelompok.http://red1.org/MSC8.pdfhttp://red1.org/MSC8.zip Sesiapa yang ingin mengambil bahagian menjayakan di universiti masing2 - komisen dua puluh persenn!! (take part as Business Development Head or i trained as Centre Head of respective university) This can also be a paper for apa-apa mak bapak grant to the govt. Please go ahead and exploit this. It is declared under Creative Commons 3.5 ala GPLv3. red1On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 4:32 PM, red1r...@red1.orgwrote:After a short struggle this year long, i can now smile that at least few people can now come up to me and say, Mr. Redhuan. I finally am enlightened of what the hell you been screaming about. FOSS is not about the code. It is about branding in a blue ocean. Inspired by such new taliban, I spent these 2 days writing up a simple plan for us to consider as Malaysia's Gift to the world.http://www.red1.org/MSC8.pdfIt is exported from AppleMac Keynote (manyak dasyot the animation, so if you really wana see the movie, belanja me free teh tarik). So please discuss or vote for acceptance and make it our key flagship. Whether it become reality or not we leave to Allah. Our tugas is done. WARNING: If you do not vote or counter then your tugas to Allah/Karma/Tao/Money is not done. In a few years its 2012, possibly a magnetic pole shift, sending chaos and 90% world population to alam lain. Mana tahu, Malaysia is the next superpower to continue in the new alam. :) red1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war?
mr red1, muka surat 8 ada prob bila buka; points saling bertindih. ada presentation version utk windows n printing version; backgroud putih n wordings gelap? tq On 13 Nov, 23:17, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Dalamhttp://red1.org/MSC8.pdfsaya menyatakan dalam Michael Porter's 5 Forces diagram pada mukasurat 2 dimana cabaran pertandingan dengan dunia, MSC tengah kalah, dan harapan atau peluangnya saya telah memberi contoh projek dari kebun di Kuang sebagai berjaya meraut kedudukan pertama dalam dunia. Maksud 'perang jenama' adalah penting untuk difahami sebagai satu perang saraf peringkat antarabangsa. Dalam buku 'Positioning - The Battle of the Mind' tulisan guru marketing Al Ries dan Jack Trout ada mengambarkan bahawa realiti adalah bergantung kepada persepsi atau imej. Dalam perang jenama dengan dunia, YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir dengan memahami konsep tersebut, berjaya meletakkan persepsi terhadap Malaysia sebagai sebuah pencabar utama dunia satu ketika dahulu. Mengapa kini imej tersebut payah dipertahankan? Apakah sudah berubah kebolehan rakyatnya? Jawapannya ialah tidak. Kami masih belum berubah sebagai pencabar gergasi dunia. Lihatlah pada tokoh seperti Jimmy Choo, Nichols David, Michele Yeoh dan pembuat thumb-drive. Apa yang berubah adalah perang saraf persepsi. Sebagai contoh, semasa zaman Pak Lah, beliau gagal menonjolkan imej sepatutnya dan walaupun beliau seorang yang cukup baik, namun persepsi umum terhadapnya menjatuhkannya. Begitu juga mengenai MSC, saya percaya pencapaian MSC cukup tinggi. Lihatlah kad pengenalan bercip dan passport automatik kita yang tidak ada tandingan lain di dunia? Tetapi apakah dunia sedar tentang itu? Apabila saya berjalan masuk ke pekarangan MDec, saya tidak dapat merasa imej tersebut dari papan-papan iklan dan ayat-ayat yang terpampar kiri, kanan dan atas dinding. Jika saya berjalan masuk Universiti Lim Kok Wing, saya dapat rasa kebijaksanaan LKW dalam mempertonjolkan tempatnya sebagai tokoh besar dunia, walaupun saya tidak percaya kepada Lim Kok Wing secara peribadi dan tidak ingin membantunya. Saya percaya kepada jenama Malaysia dan ingin membantu Malaysia. Hakikatnya kita nombor 1. Tetapi kita gagal menjual diri kita kepada dunia. Sudah sampai masanya kita sedar tentang betapa pentingnya memahami teori menaikkan jenama yang sebenarnya dan mengorak langkah ke arah itu. Saya syorkan kepada mereka yang ingin mengetahui lebih lanjut supaya Google atau Wikipedia untuk 'Al Ries' and 'Jack Trout'. red1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Terima kasih. Sudah ada Wave. Yang baru dapat tidak boleh jemput orang lagikan? On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:25 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote: bro harith thanks AJ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
Thank you for your own opinion, but i do have mine. My answer is i think we need to use the society's maillist, social engineering, use the web, kick ass, bla-bla to propagate true support for our cause from members. So far it is working, i got my target groups of siswazah contacting me, unless you got better ideas? And also i m not forcing - the admin can delist me if you find this distasteful or spam. I will just rely on the more closed facebook :). Kind regards, red1 Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote: Hi red1, don't you think it's better to sent private email to hadi n hafiz instead of public? Because other would like or doesn't wanton to know at all. Regards, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war?
Husnul Hadi, I updated http://red1.org/MSC8.pdf Saya menambahkan beberapa slide mengenai pelan tindakan dan contoh khusus. Juga slide terakhir untuk tatapan kerajaan nanti yang kita masih dalam proses perancangan dengan kekawan dalam MDec. The last slide is a 4 option plan from RM0 to RM1billion budget. Rafe advised me to make the proposal thick - 500 pages. Will take some time bro, but if i get more pitching instead of bitching we can do it. :) Hadi Kamarudin wrote: mr red1, muka surat 8 ada prob bila buka; points saling bertindih. ada presentation version utk windows n printing version; backgroud putih n wordings gelap? tq --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
Just asking red1, don't take me wrong. If I think you spamming, I will set rule in gmail to put in trash rather than ask admin to remove it. yet, I still receive ur email. Take it easy sifuu. Sent using Android On Nov 15, 2009 10:06 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Thank you for your own opinion, but i do have mine. My answer is i think we need to use the society's maillist, social engineering, use the web, kick ass, bla-bla to propagate true support for our cause from members. So far it is working, i got my target groups of siswazah contacting me, unless you got better ideas? And also i m not forcing - the admin can delist me if you find this distasteful or spam. I will just rely on the more closed facebook :). Kind regards, red1 Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote: Hi red1, don't you think it's better to sent private email to hadi... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
Red1, Kita buat list kita sendiri membincang isu berat sebegini mcm mana? Sekali sekala kita update ke list ni. Banyak sebenarnya saya nak tulis dan balas balik tapi dah nature saya bila list ni ramai orang saya berbahasa dan kawal diri. Susah lak rasanya. Jika kita ada list sendiri. Much more free. Later on siapa yang minat boleh review our archive. Hendak gunakan IRC payah sebab we not always can online. If you ok saya create aje terus dengan google or yahoogroup... On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin nasrula...@gmail.com wrote: Just asking red1, don't take me wrong. If I think you spamming, I will set rule in gmail to put in trash rather than ask admin to remove it. yet, I still receive ur email. Take it easy sifuu. Sent using Android On Nov 15, 2009 10:06 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Thank you for your own opinion, but i do have mine. My answer is i think we need to use the society's maillist, social engineering, use the web, kick ass, bla-bla to propagate true support for our cause from members. So far it is working, i got my target groups of siswazah contacting me, unless you got better ideas? And also i m not forcing - the admin can delist me if you find this distasteful or spam. I will just rely on the more closed facebook :). Kind regards, red1 Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote: Hi red1, don't you think it's better to sent private email to hadi... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
Haris, I am not discussing. I am promoting. (local lingo i m not bitching, i am pitching) kind regards, red1 Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: Red1, Kita buat list kita sendiri membincang isu berat sebegini mcm mana? Sekali sekala kita update ke list ni. Banyak sebenarnya saya nak tulis dan balas balik tapi dah nature saya bila list ni ramai orang saya berbahasa dan kawal diri. Susah lak rasanya. Jika kita ada list sendiri. Much more free. Later on siapa yang minat boleh review our archive. Hendak gunakan IRC payah sebab we not always can online. If you ok saya create aje terus dengan google or yahoogroup... On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Nasrul Amri Samsudin nasrula...@gmail.com wrote: Just asking red1, don't take me wrong. If I think you spamming, I will set rule in gmail to put in trash rather than ask admin to remove it. yet, I still receive ur email. Take it easy sifuu. Sent using Android On Nov 15, 2009 10:06 AM, "red1" r...@red1.org wrote: Thank you for your own opinion, but i do have mine. My answer is i think we need to use the society's maillist, social engineering, use the web, kick ass, bla-bla to propagate true support for our cause from members. So far it is working, i got my target groups of siswazah contacting me, unless you got better ideas? And also i m not forcing - the admin can delist me if you find this distasteful or spam. I will just rely on the more closed facebook :). Kind regards, red1 Nasrul Amri Samsudin wrote: Hi red1, don't you think it's better to sent private email to hadi... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war?
tq! =) saya tgh nk join youth events n promote Adempiere agenda tp in general 4 open source community, nk simplify the concept supaya potential subscriber (trutama yg br phm open source mcm sy) mudah paham.. target nk gain volume 4 our presure group, tp nk tau ktne nk kumpulkan info sume org2 ni nnt?plg kurg, sy akn mntk diorg join fb group.. insyaAllah nk approach sekolah2 sekitar area Shah Alam gk, wat simple training on open source..so nk tau gk pe training module nya? tp klu ada suggestion approach yg lbih berkesan, sila berkongsi ya! terima kasih On 15 Nov, 10:25, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Husnul Hadi, I updated http://red1.org/MSC8.pdf Saya menambahkan beberapa slide mengenai pelan tindakan dan contoh khusus. Juga slide terakhir untuk tatapan kerajaan nanti yang kita masih dalam proses perancangan dengan kekawan dalam MDec. The last slide is a 4 option plan from RM0 to RM1billion budget. Rafe advised me to make the proposal thick - 500 pages. Will take some time bro, but if i get more pitching instead of bitching we can do it. :) Hadi Kamarudin wrote: mr red1, muka surat 8 ada prob bila buka; points saling bertindih. ada presentation version utk windows n printing version; backgroud putih n wordings gelap? tq --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MSC losing the branding war? And how FOSS can give 67% ROI to the government
there are a number of models for foss one of these is the sharing for the continual development of the software among peers these works when the original author do not have enough resources to do it alone. resources could be developers, testers, users, marketing / awareness, etc in the case of krimnet, we open source what we have so that we will have more testers and hopefully more developers. for sure we dont have enough people to do it on our own. we make money on localised deployment - the fields that we concentrate are on economics, demographics and textual analytics - where the subject matter is more important than the sum of the programmers. therefore for us we open source the generic horizontal layers so that we are able to concentrate on the vertical industries. the other avenue for money is from knowledge sharing such as training or publication of books. these are physical services and products that people still need to pay in either foss or proprietary models. another reason for oss is customer driven. there is a large demand for applications and source codes. this is to prevent vendor lock-in. before foss became popular, companies used to pay a premium to acquire the source codes. by the way, we released our codes on the bsd license... On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, if the branding war relates to IT, then I'd rather phrase it more poetically: Are we being left behind in the e-dust of the k-economy ..TM ;-) @Marcus, re: marketing of your product, you should talk to MDec, afterall their charter is to produce Msian success-stories, and you are ahead of the curve, in the sense that you already have a proven product, when the rest that MDEC is funding, are still plans on paper... Rafe if you're reading, can help Marcus on this? 1. A Malaysian SW product, should it be FOSS? --- The case for OSS is tricky one, there are viable biz models for both Open and Proprietary, I will concede. After a very brief ponder about it, OSS has an advantage in the early-cycle of the product's market maturity, where it is in the 'disruptive technology' stage and innovating like crazy... or where there are opportunities for revenue from recurring support services, like ERP and where you rapidly wanna gain market share. In more 'commoditised' SW, like an Accounting Pkg, you may want to FOSS it, to build revenue from service, ie: hosting setup, the Gillete model, give the shaver to sell the blades, or the laser/ink-jet printer model - cheap printers but revenues from consummables. But otherwise proprietary model may still apply.. Perhaps an economists can better define this issue... I'll address the other points, specifically on the losing of Branding' of MSC, and not only that the question of are we actually falling behind - in another thread - Are we being left behind in the e-Dust of the k-Economy? On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i would certainly rank ubs as among the top 5 accounting software for small business along with peachtree and quickbooks. ubs is so good, that sage software international bought into the company. and in malaysia it retails from rm700. in usa, quickbooks retails from us$100. if i am not mistaken, ubs started out as a software by a chinese secondary school teacher in penang to teach his students about accounting. his passion has made learning and using accounting software so easy and affordable for malaysian business. the value of software is not in the price but in how many have benefited from it. just ask the thousands of business owners that are using ubs. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Hi Marcus, Your email account seems to kick back after last mail to u. So i will use this instead. Thanks for the link u gave in it. Yes, it was very interesting talking to you about your project for many reasons: 1. It is a Malaysian development effort 2. It uses its own business model (saying its not FLOSS is not relevant here. It is the business experience and insight that you bring that i value) 3. We can enrich our own experience as to how best to replicate skillsets locally. Ok, i accept your point on post-uni developer training. We must make a note to caveat that - no freshie training or join in during secondary school level or younger as i alluded to about Azrul's weekend Java course for kids. Marcus wrote: Malaysia does have its own sofware , the UBS accounting and InternetNow MailServer :-) . InternetNow had fairly good success in Malaysia, handful in Singapore and now working out a distribution deal in Iran for the latest MailNow!5 and with USA's After logic. What Inow don't have is branding and mentality advantage attributes to our foregin competitors such as
[osdcmy-public] Re: Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration
saya punya experience upgrade to 9.10 on acer aspire1 netbook dan no-nama amd athlon model 2004 desktop, serta dell pentium 3 model 2003 - semua takde masalah. maybe atas generic hardware yang tak canggih takde masalah kot. takde graphic accelerator cards. performance pun lebih pantas dari 9.04. sun-java 6 pun ok aje. netbeans dan adempiere java webstart pun ok aje. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote: masalah online upgrade... aku jadi mangsa... padan muka aku.. sapa suruh online upgrade.. x sabar nak balik rumah hendak melihat opensuse 11.1 ke opensuse 11.2... apa akan jadi kah seperti sang koala? :-D ... To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Selasih Net Enterprise we never sleep, we just park our head On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com wrote: Solution: Use Debian :) On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Mohd Syukor Abdul msyu...@searcct.gov.my wrote: Sad but TRUE; :( Ubuntu 9.10 upgraders report frustration More than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll, The Register reported. Only around 10 percent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience. Please read more at http://www.betanews.com/article/Ubuntu-910-upgraders-report-frustration/1257794212 -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OSDC.my Mailing List group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
