Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
There is one research group at our university waiting for any new official release. They ask me from time to time about it. However, they are not apparently reading mailing list too often as they are busy with their own things. I guess that number of people would welcome the new release if someone would do it. Is there any feature they specifically want in a new release, or are they just wanting the 3.0 stable release? If I remember correctly, it was mostly related to CMake scripts. Probably those responsible for finding the libraries on the disk. These should not be difficult to include in 2.8.4. I sent them email and will be back with the response soon. John ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
Is there any feature they specifically want in a new release, or are they just wanting the 3.0 stable release? If I remember correctly, it was mostly related to CMake scripts. Probably those responsible for finding the libraries on the disk. These should not be difficult to include in 2.8.4. I sent them email and will be back with the response soon. Ok. They have problems with 2.8.3 CMake scripts and other issues in VS2010. That is exactly what you are going to fix. So, your release should be very welcomed :-) . John ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
There is one research group at our university waiting for any new official release. They ask me from time to time about it. However, they are not apparently reading mailing list too often as they are busy with their own things. I guess that number of people would welcome the new release if someone would do it. Personally, I stick with developer releases. John Original message From: Chris 'Xenon' Hanson xe...@alphapixel.com Subject: Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x? Date: 26. 3. 2011 21:22:50 On 3/16/2011 11:27 AM, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: On 3/16/2011 11:21 AM, Robert Osfield wrote: I'm all for an 2.8.4 release. Excellent. Was there anyone else interested in a 2.8.4 release? Is anyone else using 2.8.3 at this point or is everyone on trunk now? ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/28/2011 9:04 AM, PC John wrote: There is one research group at our university waiting for any new official release. They ask me from time to time about it. However, they are not apparently reading mailing list too often as they are busy with their own things. I guess that number of people would welcome the new release if someone would do it. Is there any feature they specifically want in a new release, or are they just wanting the 3.0 stable release? -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 03/26/2011 04:39 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: We're using 2.8.3, but we have no real problem waiting for an eventual 3.0 or whatever comes. Off the top of my head, there are no fixes that we absolutely need. That's why I didn't respond to your questions about 2.8.3.1 or 2.8.4... And I guess others are probably in the same position, given the underwhelming response in this thread. I'm in the same boat as J-S. We're fairly happy with 2.8.3 at this point. We wouldn't mind a 2.8.4 release, but we don't have any immediate need for an upgrade. We do have some work going on with some of the new mobile stuff (iPhone/Android), but those guys are fine with using the trunk for that work, and it seems that many of those features aren't quite ready for a stable release anyway. --J ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/28/2011 9:56 AM, Jason Daly wrote: I'm in the same boat as J-S. We're fairly happy with 2.8.3 at this point. We wouldn't mind a 2.8.4 release, but we don't have any immediate need for an upgrade. Ok. As you can see, Paul has tagged a 2.8.4 RC simply to get it buildable on VC++2010. Nobody seems to have stepped forward with any real functionality change requirements for a 2.8.5, so if it happens it'll likely just be a minor bugfix release with itch-scratcher bugs that a small handful of people have contributed. Summary: Speak now on 2.8.5 or forever hold your peace. --J -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/28/2011 10:13 AM, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: On 3/28/2011 9:56 AM, Jason Daly wrote: I'm in the same boat as J-S. We're fairly happy with 2.8.3 at this point. We wouldn't mind a 2.8.4 release, but we don't have any immediate need for an upgrade. Ok. As you can see, Paul has tagged a 2.8.4 RC simply to get it buildable on VC++2010. Yeah, I figured this was long overdue, as the VS2010 issue was first discussed on this list July 2010. Given the apparent lack of interest in a 2.8 bug fix release, I wanted to make sure we (at least) produced a stable version compatible with Microsoft's current compiler and modern C++ standards. -Paul ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/28/2011 10:39 AM, Paul Martz wrote: Yeah, I figured this was long overdue, as the VS2010 issue was first discussed on this list July 2010. Given the apparent lack of interest in a 2.8 bug fix release, I wanted to make sure we (at least) produced a stable version compatible with Microsoft's current compiler and modern C++ standards. Thanks for your work on this. -Paul -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
Hi, If you're going to stick with 2.8.3, how about making some Windows Visual Studio 9 packages, as mentioned in the download page? I'm not a developer but just a digital artist and I would need those for maya2osg exporter. Or do I have to wait for OSG 3.0 release, I couldn't find any release date for that one? Cheers, lemo -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37919#37919 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/26/2011 2:39 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: Hi Chris, Was there anyone else interested in a 2.8.4 release? Is anyone else using 2.8.3 at this point or is everyone on trunk now? We're using 2.8.3, but we have no real problem waiting for an eventual 3.0 or whatever comes. Off the top of my head, there are no fixes that we absolutely need. That's why I didn't respond to your questions about 2.8.3.1 or 2.8.4... And I guess others are probably in the same position, given the underwhelming response in this thread. Another possible explanation is that the majority of the people who post submissions are trunk-centric. They are cutting-edge developers who think only in terms of getting their fixes into trunk, as that is all they use. It doesn't mean those fixes are not worth releasing in a refresh of the 2.8 branch. I imagine the vast majority of 2.8.x users are relatively silent on this list, or absent altogether. For this reason, the amount of discussion on osg-users regarding a 2.8 refresh might not be the best way to decide whether or not to move forward with such a refresh. There *has* been a lot of discussion regarding 2.8.3 and VS2010 over the past year. Several people have encountered the issue, and someone even created a git repo that has this fix. Many users would benefit from this fix being in the official repo. -Paul ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/16/2011 11:27 AM, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson wrote: On 3/16/2011 11:21 AM, Robert Osfield wrote: I'm all for an 2.8.4 release. Excellent. Was there anyone else interested in a 2.8.4 release? Is anyone else using 2.8.3 at this point or is everyone on trunk now? -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
Hi Chris, Was there anyone else interested in a 2.8.4 release? Is anyone else using 2.8.3 at this point or is everyone on trunk now? We're using 2.8.3, but we have no real problem waiting for an eventual 3.0 or whatever comes. Off the top of my head, there are no fixes that we absolutely need. That's why I didn't respond to your questions about 2.8.3.1 or 2.8.4... And I guess others are probably in the same position, given the underwhelming response in this thread. Sorry... J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.com/ http://whitestar02.dyndns-web.com/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/26/2011 2:39 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote: We're using 2.8.3, but we have no real problem waiting for an eventual 3.0 or whatever comes. Off the top of my head, there are no fixes that we absolutely need. That's why I didn't respond to your questions about 2.8.3.1 or 2.8.4... And I guess others are probably in the same position, given the underwhelming response in this thread. Ok, that's good to know. If folks are happy with 2.8.3, good. If not, we should work on addressing the problem. Sorry... J-S -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
[osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
As you may know, the 2.8.3 release dates from April 5, 2010, almost a year ago. It lacks a number of things people have wished to see, including the ability to build on VC++2010. Changes for this have been recently posted. The 2.8 branch is held in high regard by a number of organizations who cannot track 2.9 for various reasons. As such, we should probably begin to seriously consider a new 2.8 release to incorporate critical things various people have needed. In private discussion with some of my colleagues, we've talked about the idea of fielding a 2.8.3.1 solely to incorporate the VC++2010 build fixes. This would be binary API and functionality identical to 2.8.3 and would ONLY incorporate changes to the build process necessary to build on VC++2010. Building it on VC++2008 and ALL other platforms should result in binaries identical to 2.8.3, so it's a drop in replacement for 2.8.3. This library would use all the same version numbers as 2.8.3. Discussion on the merits of this are requested. Beyond 2.8.3, we'd like to discuss a possible 2.8.4. Paul Martz, who spearheaded 2.8.3 has write permission to the OSG branch repo and is willing to commit patches made against the branch, but doesn't have bandwidth to actually backport any changes or do any testing. His role in a 2.8.4 release would solely be to tell and guide us on how to follow his process. So if a 2.8.4 release is going to happen, plan to either submit a patch against the branch (as for any OSG change request), or contribute. First, I'd like to open discussion about whether a 2.8.4 release is warranted. Secondly, if you believe it is warranted, what features from trunk do you think are CRITICAL to have in the 2.8 branch? Keep in mind, there's a 3.0 release coming someday. we don't want to turn 2.8 INTO 2.9 or 3.0. There are breaking architectural changes (some minor, some less so) between 2.8 and 2.9, and some organizations won't take a 2.8.4 that has big breaking changes. Thirdly, if there's a feature you want backported, you need to plan to either volunteer to do it yourself, or contribute some funding for someone else to do it. Finally, we'll need people committed to testing the branch to see if it's ready for release. Discuss. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
Hi Chris, I'm all for an 2.8.4 release. It will require other members of the community to manage the reelase though as I'm absolutely maxed out at present. There has been lots of discussion over the last couple of years about having the community take a more active role in stable release maintenaince, and there is a number of members of the community that have write access to the branches portion of the website, I'm afraid I can't recall all of them off the top of my head - Paul Martz is obviously one of them ;-) If you or others wish to take the reigns on making a 2.8.4 release then I'd welcome this, and we can't get server admin, Jose Luis Hidalgo, to add the required permissions. The next step would be to merge any submissions that are specific to the 2.8 branch. Robert. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Chris 'Xenon' Hanson xe...@alphapixel.com wrote: As you may know, the 2.8.3 release dates from April 5, 2010, almost a year ago. It lacks a number of things people have wished to see, including the ability to build on VC++2010. Changes for this have been recently posted. The 2.8 branch is held in high regard by a number of organizations who cannot track 2.9 for various reasons. As such, we should probably begin to seriously consider a new 2.8 release to incorporate critical things various people have needed. In private discussion with some of my colleagues, we've talked about the idea of fielding a 2.8.3.1 solely to incorporate the VC++2010 build fixes. This would be binary API and functionality identical to 2.8.3 and would ONLY incorporate changes to the build process necessary to build on VC++2010. Building it on VC++2008 and ALL other platforms should result in binaries identical to 2.8.3, so it's a drop in replacement for 2.8.3. This library would use all the same version numbers as 2.8.3. Discussion on the merits of this are requested. Beyond 2.8.3, we'd like to discuss a possible 2.8.4. Paul Martz, who spearheaded 2.8.3 has write permission to the OSG branch repo and is willing to commit patches made against the branch, but doesn't have bandwidth to actually backport any changes or do any testing. His role in a 2.8.4 release would solely be to tell and guide us on how to follow his process. So if a 2.8.4 release is going to happen, plan to either submit a patch against the branch (as for any OSG change request), or contribute. First, I'd like to open discussion about whether a 2.8.4 release is warranted. Secondly, if you believe it is warranted, what features from trunk do you think are CRITICAL to have in the 2.8 branch? Keep in mind, there's a 3.0 release coming someday. we don't want to turn 2.8 INTO 2.9 or 3.0. There are breaking architectural changes (some minor, some less so) between 2.8 and 2.9, and some organizations won't take a 2.8.4 that has big breaking changes. Thirdly, if there's a feature you want backported, you need to plan to either volunteer to do it yourself, or contribute some funding for someone else to do it. Finally, we'll need people committed to testing the branch to see if it's ready for release. Discuss. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
On 3/16/2011 11:21 AM, Robert Osfield wrote: I'm all for an 2.8.4 release. Excellent. It will require other members of the community to manage the reelase though as I'm absolutely maxed out at present. That was pretty much the initial assumption. ;) There has been lots of discussion over the last couple of years about having the community take a more active role in stable release maintenaince, and there is a number of members of the community that have write access to the branches portion of the website, I'm afraid I can't recall all of them off the top of my head - Paul Martz is obviously one of them ;-) If you or others wish to take the reigns on making a 2.8.4 release then I'd welcome this, and we can't get server admin, Jose Luis Hidalgo, to add the required permissions. Excellent. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Digital Imaging. OpenGL. Scene Graphs. GIS. GPS. Training. Consulting. Contracting. There is no Truth. There is only Perception. To Perceive is to Exist. - Xen ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
I'm a bit confused here! Was there supposed to be a 3.0 release at some time, or was that the development release? Whatever became of that? I’m still using 2.8.2 because of requirement placed on me by my client but I somehow got lost out on the deference’s between the release and the what has been in development in the past 6 months. I kind of figured that a stable version of that development code would be the new released code by now, why not? ... D Glenn D Glenn (a.k.a David Glenn) - Moving Heaven and Earth! -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37658#37658 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Interest in new releases of 2.8.x?
Hi David, On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:32 PM, David Glenn david.e.glenn@navy.mil wrote: I'm a bit confused here! Was there supposed to be a 3.0 release at some time, or was that the development release? Whatever became of that? 3.0 is my personal focus, but I've been rather swamped with client work in the last couple of months so haven't had a window to push out 3.0. In the run up to 3.0 I'll be making more 2.9.x releases. Maintaince releases of other stable releases, i,e, 2.6.x, or 2.8.x are possible at any time of year, and are totally decoupled from the work on developer releases, i.e. the 2.9.x branch and the effort to get 3.0 out the door. I’m still using 2.8.2 because of requirement placed on me by my client but I somehow got lost out on the deference’s between the release and the what has been in development in the past 6 months. I kind of figured that a stable version of that development code would be the new released code by now, why not? Not enough time in the day to do all the work I need to do ;-| Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
