Re: [osg-users] Too much support!!!!! (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-05-24 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi Mike,

We moved to Tracs wiki less than a year ago, after considering various
possibilities on the replacement of PmWiki.  MediaWiki was one that
was looked at but discounted.  For development projects Tracs adds
useful facilities that tools like MediaWiki don't provide.

As for editing, you just login, there is anonymous log, just follow
the Commuinity WikiLoginDetials link.  So it couldn't be more open, it
just requires people to be a little observant.

Robert.



On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Dorsett, Mike F AMRDEC/SAIC
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 Searching osg-users:
 I would say that the size of osg-users and difficulty in searching it is
 my biggest problem as well.

 Google groups:
 I didn't know there was a google groups mirror; I'll have to try that
 next time.

 Concerning the wiki:
 Mostly, it seems to cover just newbie type questions. And, if there is
 an interface to edit or to add to it, I don't see it.  I can understand
 wanting control over content; but it would be nice to see a more open
 option available. Besides the obvious wikipedia, the only wikis that
 spring in my mind are for things like games or entertainment. And, all
 the decent ones seem to use MediaWiki. But, that is not to say that's
 because of MediaWiki. It is more about the number of and level of
 commitment from their contributors.

 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

 Not that using MediaWiki requires anonymous usage, see Citizendum for
 instance.

 http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Main_Page

 Again, I am not saying I believe that MediaWiki to be the best software
 out there; it is just the most prolific. Obviously there is a lot:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software


 Mike Dorsett - Software Engineer - SAIC


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
 Kuehne
 Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:47 PM
 To: OpenSceneGraph Users
 Subject: Re: [osg-users] Too much support!

 one reason i think people fire at the list first, perhaps, is that
 mailman is a bit difficult to use for finding data. i find the mailing
 list as-is difficult to search, esp for noobs, and sometimes even for
 oldies like me. hence, that's why i mirror the osg list (as of a year or
 so ago) on a google group. i think it makes things a lot more
 accessible, and easy to search and find answers:

  http://groups.google.com/group/osg-users

 other things, aside from asking people to rtfm, are to point people to
 the excellent quickstart guide, or the reference manual, or (shameless
 plug) get support, books, or a training (shameless plug number two:
 denver! june 11-13) from paul and me:

  http://osgbooks.com

 if all that fails, robert, and nobody on the list answers, then i think
 you can feel some obligation to answer. but you should lie back and wait
 for the built-in safeties to fail first. :)

 have a nice long weekend, peeps in the usa, bob

 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Paul Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 You have many good points.

 I've seen this topic come up many times in my nearly three decades of
 using countless online discussion forums. One thing I've learned: no
 matter how many resources and FAQs you make available, people, by
 their very nature, are social, and therefore value the interaction and

 networking more than quickly finding an answer to an issue.
   -Paul

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Re: [osg-users] Too much support!!!!! (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-05-23 Thread Dorsett, Mike F AMRDEC/SAIC
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Caveats: NONE

Searching osg-users:
I would say that the size of osg-users and difficulty in searching it is
my biggest problem as well. 

Google groups:
I didn't know there was a google groups mirror; I'll have to try that
next time.

Concerning the wiki: 
Mostly, it seems to cover just newbie type questions. And, if there is
an interface to edit or to add to it, I don't see it.  I can understand
wanting control over content; but it would be nice to see a more open
option available. Besides the obvious wikipedia, the only wikis that
spring in my mind are for things like games or entertainment. And, all
the decent ones seem to use MediaWiki. But, that is not to say that's
because of MediaWiki. It is more about the number of and level of
commitment from their contributors.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki

Not that using MediaWiki requires anonymous usage, see Citizendum for
instance.

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Main_Page

Again, I am not saying I believe that MediaWiki to be the best software
out there; it is just the most prolific. Obviously there is a lot:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software


Mike Dorsett - Software Engineer - SAIC


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob
Kuehne
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:47 PM
To: OpenSceneGraph Users
Subject: Re: [osg-users] Too much support!

one reason i think people fire at the list first, perhaps, is that
mailman is a bit difficult to use for finding data. i find the mailing
list as-is difficult to search, esp for noobs, and sometimes even for
oldies like me. hence, that's why i mirror the osg list (as of a year or
so ago) on a google group. i think it makes things a lot more
accessible, and easy to search and find answers:

 http://groups.google.com/group/osg-users

other things, aside from asking people to rtfm, are to point people to
the excellent quickstart guide, or the reference manual, or (shameless
plug) get support, books, or a training (shameless plug number two:
denver! june 11-13) from paul and me:

 http://osgbooks.com

if all that fails, robert, and nobody on the list answers, then i think
you can feel some obligation to answer. but you should lie back and wait
for the built-in safeties to fail first. :)

have a nice long weekend, peeps in the usa, bob

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Paul Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 You have many good points.

 I've seen this topic come up many times in my nearly three decades of 
 using countless online discussion forums. One thing I've learned: no 
 matter how many resources and FAQs you make available, people, by 
 their very nature, are social, and therefore value the interaction and

 networking more than quickly finding an answer to an issue.
   -Paul

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 osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org
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 org




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