Re: [OSList] Brief OST Case Studies - Feel Free to Add

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hi Jake,

Cool, I appreciate your compilation and the sharing here!

You wrote that you compiled them "from Open Space World, the User's Guide, and 
Tales from Open Space". 
Would it be possible for you to add the source to each study?

That would help when we or others share this stories.
Thank you.

And, wow, I have great joy getting to witness some of your journey with OST and 
your intentions for your organisation!

Cheering you on,
Marai

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> Am 21.09.2019 um 01:17 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I've compiled OST case studies in a brief format 
> 
>  that I find useful for contracting. Others might too.
> 
> I compiled them from Open Space World, the User's Guide, and Tales from Open 
> Space. 
> 
> Feel free to add.
> 
> Much love,
> Jake
> 
> 
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> will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] Learning opportunities in the UK

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Sue,

One great way I learned about OST was finding someone more experienced and 
being an assistant for some times.

Years back, when I followed Michael M Pannwitz around for three months, I 
learned a lot.
So additional to any course you could take, you could offer another experienced 
facilitator to help them?

Thinking back, I chose Michael M (cudos to you) very consciously, as he didn’t 
do shortcuts I saw some other facilitators make.
(some did Future Search, World Café, AI, OST etc, and sometimes mixed them up, 
which I didn’t appreciate).
He was very clear about the impact each aspect of OST had, and what would be 
lost by changing it.

What a great opportunity to openly say:

Thank you, Michael M Pannwitz, for that opportunity to be an OST 
apprentice !

( And I still have your OST material box :-) )

With Love, Marai


> Am 27.08.2019 um 09:12 schrieb Sue Lawson via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I've been following the list for a while but this is my first post...
> 
> I'm trying to find out if the are OST learning opportunities running in the 
> UK.
> 
> For the past few years a friend and I have been running annual librarycamp 
> unconferences using bits of OST - session proposals, marketplace, the four 
> rules - although we're not so good at the reporting, relying on volunteer 
> notetakers and it's not always successful. 
> 
> I'm naturally shy and not a confident facilitator. I'm not afraid to try but 
> I'd love to become better. My co-camper is more at ease but I want us both to 
> develop as facilitators.
> Our camps are free and we do it as a hobby. We're librarians by day and our 
> themes are around improving libraries or working through challenges public 
> libraries face nowadays. It's not a business, more a passion.
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 
> Sue Lawson on behalf of Librarycamp.
> @shedsue 
> 
> On Mon, 26 Aug 2019, 19:03 Michael M Pannwitz via OSList, 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Dear Michael,
> 
> "‘felt’ more calm and respectful than in previous years"
> I wonder why that was no surprise to you.
> Could it be part of the cultural shifting that you hope for?
> 
> Is there a "Next Meeting" for all of those that got into the 14 Action 
> Plans?
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> Am 26.08.2019 um 09:14 schrieb Michael Wood via OSList:
> > A few weeks ago Brendan McKeague and Michael Wood co-facilitated what 
> > might be the largest ever Open Space in Australia (certainly with a 
> > church group) when the Anglican Diocese of Brisbane took the step of 
> > hosting most of the first day of Synod (the annual large gathering of 
> > representatives of Anglican parishes, schools and other organisations) 
> > for 6 hours in Open Space. 450 people attended around a very spacious 
> > question, ‘what is God calling us to be and do at this time’.  Three 
> > sessions of 1.5 hours each led to the posting of 56 conversation topics 
> > and 14 action plans. One of the interesting pieces of feedback at the 
> > end of Synod is that the remainder of Synod (which is conducted in a 
> > traditional Westminster Parliament format) ‘felt’ more calm and 
> > respectful that in previous years – no surprises there.  Although it’s 
> > early days the whole thing felt to me like an opening up of new 
> > possibility about the way we meet in the church and I personally hope it 
> > might be part of a cultural shift starting to happen. Time will tell.
> > 
> > Michael Wood. Perth, Western Australia.
> > 
> > 
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[OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Greetings,

I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two other 
emails:

Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being “totally present and 
absolutely invisible”

Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present, respectfully 
absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.

I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me to 
(once again) wonder: 

What does holding space involve… 
   for me?
   for you?

I invite an exploration of this question further down.
With a little nudge into a new direction.

Before…


***


…a side note on conversations on this list:

Part of my personal „Practice of Peace“ (which is the name of the first book by 
Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves having as 
little „who is right -who is wrong“ conversations as possible. My preference is 
exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that by the language I 
use.

Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language 
. Which I understand as a way of 
speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I 
imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how 
something „is“ but just how it is „for me“. (For those interested in exploring 
this take on language, also check out E-Prime 
.) 

Speaking not in „this is how it IS“ but in „this is what I PERCEIVE“ is so 
unusual in our cultural—hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this 
habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself 
hopeful with acknowledging my progress!

The setup of OST doesn’t include „who is right - who is wrong?" Instead OST 
invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to them. 
Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.

If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of 
diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through our 
individual lenses.


***


Back to my invitation:

This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:

* What does holding space involve... for me personally?

Let’s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via music, 
painting or…
And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
I’ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)

* Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a 
1-time-event (like an annual conference) 
compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational 
transformation? 
If so, in which way?

I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are into 
organisational transformation.

***

And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who 

- think globally
- see themselves as leaders of some kind
- and appreciate a space for emergence:

The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 / Oct 
9...
To whomever that is interesting, check it out here 


Greetings,
Marai

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Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Ooops - a handling mistake. 
Just delete this and the former empty message...

> Am 16.08.2019 um 19:45 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList 
> :
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 14.08.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>> 
>> Chris, thank you for your response.  However, an Empire is defined as an 
>> authoritarian organization of countries, or people, under single rule like 
>> the Roman empire. The chuch's first rule of becoming certified as high 
>> priest is that women are not allowed In.  We see how that worked out... That 
>> is not OS and is not what I recommend. So please do not misunderstand my 
>> intent. I am not calling for empire building or authoritarianism, but 
>> calling for organization of an Educational Institute to train and educate 
>> those who facilitate OST in the world of empire building WE all live in. If 
>> we leave it to mother nature to do it out of Spirit alone we could be 
>> waiting another 4,000 years.  How to prepare facilitators and participants 
>> to face the inevitable pushback from their own leaders (like now) or from 
>> leaders of empires once raw honesty is put out there is an advanced skill 
>> set.  One that will help or hurt outcomes. Chris, you are spot on to invoke 
>> the Devil. Because the Devil always attacks honesty that exposes the hidden, 
>> dishonest agendas of leaders who proudly open space only to crush those who 
>> are Too honest for their liking. Therein lies a significant learning moment 
>> to train facilitators in the ability to discern authenticity in the 
>> leadership before engaging. Dishonesty has become the new trend in 
>> management and leadership. Just look at the state of American politics and 
>> media coverage of it. The number one contraindiction as HO aptly defines it, 
>> in my experience is dishonest leadership. This must be discerned first, as 
>> only one of the teaching lessons for all future facilitators. Otherwise 
>> good, honest participants and their facilitators are given up to the 
>> devilish empire builders you describe.  Especially in the great 
>> US of A democracy that has become Retaliation Nation.  
>> Thanks again Chris! 
>> Miss you having not seen you since Dulles.
>> Peace! 
>> MC
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan > <mailto:chris.corri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity, 
>> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic 
>> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering 
>> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for most 
>> of the last 1700 years?
>> 
>> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.  
>> 
>> Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not 
>> want or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open 
>> space.  It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t 
>> actually opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care what 
>> your credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were 
>> facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared about the 
>> participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took nothing 
>> for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and others.  Some of 
>> these people were 14 years old. 
>> 
>> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have ever 
>> met, too, for the same reasons. 
>> 
>> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how I 
>> learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you. Resist 
>> the devilish temptation to build an empire.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
>>> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
>>> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
>>> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
>>> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that 
>>> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
>>> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open sp

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

> Am 14.08.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
> :
> 
> Chris, thank you for your response.  However, an Empire is defined as an 
> authoritarian organization of countries, or people, under single rule like 
> the Roman empire. The chuch's first rule of becoming certified as high priest 
> is that women are not allowed In.  We see how that worked out... That is not 
> OS and is not what I recommend. So please do not misunderstand my intent. I 
> am not calling for empire building or authoritarianism, but calling for 
> organization of an Educational Institute to train and educate those who 
> facilitate OST in the world of empire building WE all live in. If we leave it 
> to mother nature to do it out of Spirit alone we could be waiting another 
> 4,000 years.  How to prepare facilitators and participants to face the 
> inevitable pushback from their own leaders (like now) or from leaders of 
> empires once raw honesty is put out there is an advanced skill set.  One that 
> will help or hurt outcomes. Chris, you are spot on to invoke the Devil. 
> Because the Devil always attacks honesty that exposes the hidden, dishonest 
> agendas of leaders who proudly open space only to crush those who are Too 
> honest for their liking. Therein lies a significant learning moment to train 
> facilitators in the ability to discern authenticity in the leadership before 
> engaging. Dishonesty has become the new trend in management and leadership. 
> Just look at the state of American politics and media coverage of it. The 
> number one contraindiction as HO aptly defines it, in my experience is 
> dishonest leadership. This must be discerned first, as only one of the 
> teaching lessons for all future facilitators. Otherwise good, honest 
> participants and their facilitators are given up to the devilish empire 
> builders you describe.  Especially in the great 
> US of A democracy that has become Retaliation Nation.  
> Thanks again Chris! 
> Miss you having not seen you since Dulles.
> Peace! 
> MC
> 
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan  > wrote:
> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity, 
> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic 
> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering 
> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for most 
> of the last 1700 years?
> 
> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.  
> 
> Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not want 
> or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open space.  
> It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t actually 
> opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care what your 
> credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were 
> facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared about the 
> participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took nothing 
> for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and others.  Some of 
> these people were 14 years old. 
> 
> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have ever 
> met, too, for the same reasons. 
> 
> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how I 
> learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you. Resist 
> the devilish temptation to build an empire.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
>> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
>> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
>> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
>> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that 
>> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
>> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
>> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
>> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
>> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
>> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
>> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title and 
>> otherwise have no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given 
>> titles. When you talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with 
>> the retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes 
>> sense to put some structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters 
>> from apprentice  to Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and 
>> 

Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

> Only takes one minute to explain, or one second to discover.

Which I neither believe nor agree to, Paul.

If it only took one minute to explain, wouldn’t this whole list, all of 
Harrison’s books, thousands of peoples postings, conversations, training 
materials etc all be totally obsolete?
Why would we even have any further conversation about it?

*

In 2002, when first I read about OST for the first time, I „got“ it, on a deep 
spiritual level. 
Half a year later I went to my first OST, which happened to be a full 2,5 days 
exposure.
I was thoroughly impacted.

Afterwards, I knew that I wanted to not only „use“ OST as a process, but I 
acknowledged it as a way of living.
And I also knew I was setting myself up for quite a journey. 

I learned about practicalities of setting up OST with small and large numbers 
of people, and later in online settings. 
I learned about helping a group of people to discover a burning theme. 
About when to use it and when not. 
About presence and holding space. 
About becoming an embodiment of „Whatever happens…“ which to me is quit 
different than just declaring the principle, but not living it
And so much more...

Especially I learned about the difference of using OST as a one-time event 
(conference / annual meeting …) or within a long term project / an organisation.

To me, that difference is like having one deep conversation on the train with a 
stranger (easy, at least for me) 
OR
building a long-term relationship, really getting to know another, on good days 
and bad days, moving through conflict, evolving together over time (not so 
easy, at least not for me)

Two quite different endeavours.

Not something to learn within only one minute.
But maybe I am just a very slow learner…

Marai

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> Am 14.08.2019 um 19:38 schrieb paul levy via OSList 
> :
> 
> I'd never certify OST. Only takes one minute to explain, or one second to 
> discover.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Paul Levy
> 
> Paul Levy
> Writer, facilitator, conversifier and collusion breaker
> 
> On Wed, 14 Aug 2019, 17:05 Chris Corrigan via OSList, 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of Christianity, 
> right? And that subsequent attempts to do so basically created a toxic 
> blending of Church and Empire that contributed to mass amounts of suffering 
> through incredibly toxic and psychopathic uses of power and control for most 
> of the last 1700 years?
> 
> And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.  
> 
> Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It does not want 
> or need more  people running around saying they are certified to open space.  
> It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials mean nothing if you aren’t actually 
> opening space.  And if you are opening space, no one will care what your 
> credentials are.  The best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were 
> facilitated by people who had never done them before.  They cared about the 
> participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took nothing 
> for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and others.  Some of 
> these people were 14 years old. 
> 
> Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I have ever 
> met, too, for the same reasons. 
> 
> Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it. That’s how I 
> learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my invitation to you. Resist 
> the devilish temptation to build an empire.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
>> program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
>> people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time 
>> as Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an 
>> invitation and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that 
>> from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, 
>> saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space 
>> facilitator normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world 
>> has evolved into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who 
>> spoke the strongest against certification have already given themselves nice 
>> fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. 
>> Right now open space facilitators must give themself their own title 

Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Thank you, Amanda,

I appreciate you for sharing your distinction.
Not too much information. Thank you :)

Marai


> Am 02.08.2019 um 15:50 schrieb Amanda Bucklow :
> 
> Dear Marai
> 
> I make the distinction between Certified (in the US sense) and Accredited as 
> follows:
> 
> Certified would be 
> 1. State sponsored with legal status as in a certified accountant. In the UK 
> in order to produce statutory accounts for the Inland Revenue you need to be 
> ‘certified’ by a recognised body. The most common is Chartered Accountant 
> which is the status conferred by the Privy Council and 
> 2. there is a system of regulation which deals with disciplinary action the 
> outcome of which is legal binding. This means your ‘licence’ to practice, and 
> therefore you ability to earn your living, may be revoked or restricted in 
> some way.
> 
> Accredited would be
> 1. Trained by an organisation holding themselves out as qualified to train 
> but not independently verified as competent to do so
> 2. A much shorter training, possibly non-standard and subject to the 
> perceptions of the market as to quality, and
> 3. either no regulation or very light-touch regulation by a membership body, 
> for example.
> 
> The first invites the public to have confidence in the ‘certification’ and to 
> rely on it. The second requires the consumer to make a judgment supported by 
> more thorough research or recommendation.
> 
> I do hope that is not too much information :-)
> 
> kind regards
> Amanda
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 12:36, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Amanda, 
>> 
>> Could you help me understand what for you the difference is between a 
>> certification (in the US sense) and an accreditation?
>> 
>> I know there is a cultural difference (years ago I learned from a British 
>> colleague that in the UK „certified“ means ‘certified insane’ as you are 
>> saying). 
>> 
>> So you use the word „accredited“. I believe in the US they use „certified“ 
>> for that very situation. True?
>> (by the way here is a non-native English speaker from Germany asking).
>> 
>> And I like your quote with your three distinctions.
>> 
>> Marai
>> 
>> Join the next Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders on August 26! 
>> <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780>
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 02.08.2019 um 12:25 schrieb Facilit8 via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
>>> 
>>> Dear Mark
>>> 
>>> For me there is only one case for certification and that is ‘certified 
>>> insane’. The rest is an illusion of certainty which is the very antithesis 
>>> of Open Space at least as I experience it.
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your enthusiasm for the business opportunity and for 
>>> practitioners. I have found that the OSList and the wonderful discussions, 
>>> which are both challenging and respectful, to be the very best professional 
>>> development and better than any ‘regulation’ I have experienced in any 
>>> profession bar none. Wise folks here share and repeat the simplicity of 
>>> what we do in service of others.
>>> 
>>> As I say to my student mediators: “your training means you understand the 
>>> goals and theory and your accreditation means I think you are a safe pair 
>>> of hands. Now, you turn up, pay attention and ‘be’ a mediator. There is no 
>>> certificate for that.”
>>> 
>>> Greetings and warm wishes from a lovely sunny Hove (south coast England)
>>> 
>>> Amanda
>>> 
>>> Amanda Bucklow
>>> Independent Commercial Mediator
>>> Https://amandabucklow.co.uk <https://amandabucklow.co.uk/>
>>> 07976 924995
>>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 20:35, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>>>> 
>>>> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Carmel
>>>> Wannabe Certified OST
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Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Amanda, 

Could you help me understand what for you the difference is between a 
certification (in the US sense) and an accreditation?

I know there is a cultural difference (years ago I learned from a British 
colleague that in the UK „certified“ means ‘certified insane’ as you are 
saying). 

So you use the word „accredited“. I believe in the US they use „certified“ for 
that very situation. True?
(by the way here is a non-native English speaker from Germany asking).

And I like your quote with your three distinctions.

Marai

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> Am 02.08.2019 um 12:25 schrieb Facilit8 via OSList 
> :
> 
> Dear Mark
> 
> For me there is only one case for certification and that is ‘certified 
> insane’. The rest is an illusion of certainty which is the very antithesis of 
> Open Space at least as I experience it.
> 
> I appreciate your enthusiasm for the business opportunity and for 
> practitioners. I have found that the OSList and the wonderful discussions, 
> which are both challenging and respectful, to be the very best professional 
> development and better than any ‘regulation’ I have experienced in any 
> profession bar none. Wise folks here share and repeat the simplicity of what 
> we do in service of others.
> 
> As I say to my student mediators: “your training means you understand the 
> goals and theory and your accreditation means I think you are a safe pair of 
> hands. Now, you turn up, pay attention and ‘be’ a mediator. There is no 
> certificate for that.”
> 
> Greetings and warm wishes from a lovely sunny Hove (south coast England)
> 
> Amanda
> 
> Amanda Bucklow
> Independent Commercial Mediator
> Https://amandabucklow.co.uk 
> 07976 924995
> 
> On 1 Aug 2019, at 20:35, Mark Carmel via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>> 
>> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  
>> 
>> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>> 
>> Mark Carmel
>> Wannabe Certified OST
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Re: [OSList] Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Harold, I am pleased that you wrote, "They are some of Harrison’s best work in 
my opinion“ !
I appreciate this work a lot and envision making the recordings accessible to 
OST students.

Picking up on Bhavesh’s suggestion and taking it forward in a slightly 
different direction:

I’d actually love to see them published as an audiobook. 

What speaks for an Audiobook:
- Audiobooks have become a major market. Today I heard that 40 % of the books 
sold nowadays are audiobooks.
  I personally have almost totally given up on paper books and will choose an 
audio book over a print copy anytime.

- I would like for students to be able to navigate through the content.  
  I prefer having distinguished chapters, not just one big mesh as it comes out 
in a podcast.
  When I started with OST, I listened back to specific parts right before a 
facilitation (kudos to Gerard Muller, who shared this idea and the CDs with me).

- I would also like for money to be collected from making the material 
available.
  a) to support the work of the OSI and acknowledge Harrison
  b) to demonstrate that this is really valuable stuff, not just some freebie 
that one can listen to without putting much energy into it

Is anybody out there who has knowledge about or experience with creating & 
selling audiobooks?

Marai


> Am 01.08.2019 um 08:07 schrieb Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
> :
> 
> Unless there is a need to continue making money for them, maybe they can 
> simply be uploaded as 5 podcasts, with the option to contribute however much 
> you would like to? Then the world can benefit even more!
> 
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 08:50, Harold Shinsato via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Marai,
> 
> The CDs were printed and sold through the OSI-US bookstore partner years ago, 
> but that operation was made obsolete by Amazon and electronic books, and they 
> closed it and shipped us the remaining inventory. There are none of the CDs 
> left.
> 
> We have planned to make them available online for some time. They are some of 
> Harrison’s best work in my opinion, and we do hope to make them available 
> again. But we can’t promise a timeline.
> 
> Harold
> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:40 PM Marai Kiele via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I am wondering if and where this is still available:
> 
> Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD 
> Hear the thinking behind Open Space from its creator, Harrison Owen. This 
> recording was made during the July, 1999 Open Space Technology Facilitation 
> Workshop in Seattle, Washington. These stories, which Harrison tells when 
> introducing Open Space to new facilitators, take OS out of the realm of 
> better meetings and into a different way of being. 
> 5 CD set
> 
> I have the CDs for myself, yet as I am training others in OST I want to be 
> able to point them to this resource.
> 
> I found them on the OSIUS page 
> https://osius.org/content/open-space-books-videos-and-more 
> <https://osius.org/content/open-space-books-videos-and-more> only without a 
> link.
> 
> When I google for them, I have nothing helpful coming up.
> 
> Can anybody help?
> 
> Thank you!
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele <https://about.me/maraikiele>
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[OSList] Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hello everybody,

I am wondering if and where this is still available:

Understanding Open Space - training talks on CD 
Hear the thinking behind Open Space from its creator, Harrison Owen. This 
recording was made during the July, 1999 Open Space Technology Facilitation 
Workshop in Seattle, Washington. These stories, which Harrison tells when 
introducing Open Space to new facilitators, take OS out of the realm of better 
meetings and into a different way of being. 
5 CD set

I have the CDs for myself, yet as I am training others in OST I want to be able 
to point them to this resource.

I found them on the OSIUS page 
https://osius.org/content/open-space-books-videos-and-more only without a link.

When I google for them, I have nothing helpful coming up.

Can anybody help?

Thank you!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele
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Re: [OSList] ANYONE who wants to be, has been, or IS an OST Professional Facilitator MUST watch Ray Dalio on 60 Minutes tonight!

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

I appreciate you for sharing this interview, Mark & Jeff!
It’s visible in Germany and I’ll also share it further.
Greetings, Marai

> Am 29.07.2019 um 05:30 schrieb Alan Stewart via OSList 
> :
> 
> It is indeed Jeff.
> 
> I’ve circulated it widely to my fellow Climate activists.
> 
> Looking forward.  Al
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:52 AM, Jeff Aitken  > wrote:
> Just found this - if it's visible in your area. I didn't see the original 
> post tho.
> 
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ray-dalio-capitalism-needs-reform-wealth-inequality-is-a-national-emergency-60-minutes-2019-07-28/
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:13 PM Alan Stewart via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> G’day Mark
> 
> Any possibility of having a recording done to make available to OSTNiks in 
> far flung parts?
> 
> Looking forward.
> 
> Al (formerly Alan) Stewart
> 
> Adelaide 
> 
> Blog: www.conversare.net 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 9:53 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
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[OSList] "Fall in Love with Selling" challenge

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear colleagues,

Maybe this sounds familiar?

I have had an ambivalent relationship with „selling“ for most of my life.
At the same time I have a desire for my services and perspectives and 
contribution to be „bought“ by others.
But I often shied away from offering them, not knowing how to do it in a way 
that was in integrity with my values.

When I met Vie Davis and learned about her perspective on selling, my view 
changed thoroughly.

That’s why I am choosing to forward an opportunity to you:

The invitation to participate in a free 8-day challenge to explore a different 
way of looking at „selling“.

No, I don’t get any referral benefits. 
This is just me desiring to help that great work by good people is being „sold“ 
well.
In integrity and satisfying for all involved.

Starting next week I will review the challenge myself to go even deeper in my 
learning. 

Greetings,
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

Hey Marai,

This is a quick hello and announcement that I am planning another "Fall in Love 
with Selling" challenge which is scheduled to start on July 31st. 

If you took this challenge previously and it rocked your world in any way (aka 
benefited you), I humbly ask if you could help spread the word in your circles 
and share with people you feel it might benefit. I would so appreciate your 
help this way!
Here is a link to the intro video and sign up:
https://www.viedavis.com/challenge/ 


Also if you originally signed up for the challenge, but life got in the way (oh 
life!) now is another lovely opportunity to go on this journey. :)

And of course, anyone can come along for a second (or third) round! 

I do have an intimate group program I now offer at the close of the challenge 
called  "The Metaphysics of Selling" 

  as well an ongoing "Selling From Your Heart" support community that grew as a 
natural extension after offering this program. 

The "Fall in Love with Selling" challenge IS a pre-requisite for taking this 
course as it is truly the foundation for everything I teach. Not just fluff to 
lure you in ... But a whole entree unto itself. :)

My mission is to create a dialogue and a movement around bringing sanity, 
heart, alignment and healing to the world of selling and business. These 
offerings are a few of the ways I am doing this.

Big thanks for everything YOU do to make this world better. 

I appreciate you and am grateful you are in my life. 

Love,
Vie

PS. Here's the challenge link again: https://www.viedavis.com/challenge/ 



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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

e dancing!
>>> 
>>> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
>>> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
>>> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
>>> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
>>> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
>>> experience. 
>>> 
>>> Peggy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too 
>>>> (or was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him 
>>>> based on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and 
>>>> see if I still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I 
>>>> rehearsed it with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
>>>> 
>>>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
>>>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
>>>> 
>>>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
>>>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with 
>>>> Kairi Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>>>> 
>>>> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
>>>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
>>>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
>>>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and 
>>>> drinking every night!
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>>>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on 
>>>>> TV at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> San Francisco
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken >>>> <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>>>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>>>>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization 
>>>>> Transformation" taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US 
>>>>> OT was in Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - 
>>>>> and that's the limit of my memory :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> San Francisco
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
>>>>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
>>>>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is 
>>>>> that you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am 
>>>>> sure you will find the collective ruminations. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harrison
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Marai Kiele via OSList >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
>>>>> To: ost list international >>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
>>>>> Cc: Marai Kiele >>>> <mailto:genuine-cont...@joyful-together.com>>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, Jul 14, 2019 7:07 am
>>>>> Subject: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am wri

[OSList] Are You an Emerging Leader?

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Are you someone who thinks globally?
Do you support others to grow, learn and do meaningful work together?

Dear community,

Next Monday, the Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders will again open space for 

- connecting across countries and continents
- mutual support
- honest sharing 
- and last not least, having a good time

We come together in OST with Genuine Contact facilitation,
… to support each others emergence as leaders and help each other make a bigger 
difference

… with the intention to strengthen the opportunities for joy and harmony in the 
world.


If you can’t make Monday: 

We have such growing response to our offer that we are doing this 
monthly! 

Do you identify as an emerging leader with a global perspective? 
OR 
Do you know one or two people close to you who are stepping up for what is 
meaningful to them?

If so, have a look:

https://tinyurl.com/yxojv6oy 

Last time, we had participants from Sweden, Germany, Hungaria, New-Zealand, 
Finland and the USA. 
This time I already know that South-Africa, Canada, and several other countries 
will be added to our list. 
What a treasure!

I am so glad that I stepped up as an emerging leader myself, during a meeting 
last November, when I shared my vision for this offering.
To my delight, I was joined by my awesome colleague Thomas Herrmann, Sweden. 
Without him and our ongoing collaboration, this would not exist. 
As in so many projects: We need each other!

Looking forward to exactly the right people joining❣️

Marai Kiele & Thomas Herrmann
https://about.me/maraikiele 


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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

That’s exactly what I am intending to describe in my short story, Peggy!
I smile, reading your description.

I don’t remember „Bohm dialogue“ (Are talking objects used in that?) 
Please remind me of what exactly you are referring to, so I can integrate that 
in my story.

I do have a clear memory of the moment when Chris Corrigan picked up the 
talking object and spoke up.
As I remember it, besides the „I“ language, he invited all who where expressing 
themselves to broaden their perspective.

Not just think of „what do I want“ or „what do we, in this room, want“ but 
include all those around the globe who are not physically there.
What would be best for the longterm flourishing of OST and for all those who 
belong to the community, in some way or another?
What would be best for those who weren’t capable of bringing their perspective 
in themselves?

To me, that was a sacred moment. I experienced that the whole atmosphere 
shifted, and after a while the next location had become clear to the whole 
group:
Moscow / Russia.

But I won’t give all the details of my whole story away in this email! ;-)

Marai 


> Am 15.07.2019 um 18:17 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList 
> :
> 
> Yes, it was the year of Harrison’s 70th birthday. I remember the dancing!
> 
> The closing circle keeps coming back to me. We had invitations to go to two 
> places in 2006. We used Bohm dialogue to discern where to go. I remember we 
> used a talking piece among the 50-60 people. I recall setting it up with 
> something like listen to each other and speak when moved. And you, Chris, 
> added the essential guidance to speak “I” language — from personal 
> experience. 
> 
> Peggy
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 11:17 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I remember 2005…it was celebrating Harrison’s 65th birthday I think too (or 
>> was it 70th?  I just know it was significant).  I wrote a song for him based 
>> on a Nova Scotia folks song…I’ll look through my old note books and see if I 
>> still have the lyrics.  I was so nervous to sing it!  I thin I rehearsed it 
>> with Esther Ewing, but I was too nervous to do it as a duet!  
>> 
>> I remember too that we also mourned our colleague Colin Morley, who was 
>> killed in the July 7 2005 London Underground bombings the month before.  
>> 
>> I met some life-long friends at that OSonOS, including Feliz Telik from 
>> Turkey and Piret Jeedas from Estonia who were both working (along with Kairi 
>> Birk) at Tim Merry’s Split Rock Learning Centre in Yarmouth.  
>> 
>> Halifax is such a great city.  And it was a really fun time, probably my 
>> favourite of the three full OSonOS’s I attended (including the OSonOS IX 
>> which I co-hosted with Laurel Doersam in Vancouver in 2001).  There was 
>> great conversation, a beautiful, community location and dancing and drinking 
>> every night!
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That (first or second) Day's Inn osonos was late '94. It was after the 
>>> November US election when Newt G became Speaker of the House (he was on TV 
>>> at the hotel.) Funny how memory works.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 1:10 PM Jeff Aitken >> <mailto:r.jeff.ait...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi, the archives don't seem to go back that far. Were we on the MetaNet 
>>> back then? Then the oslist was born in mid 90s when we needed a listserv 
>>> instead of a website based conversation? 
>>> 
>>> I remember the first or second Day's Inn gathering. 
>>> 
>>> Was a nice complement to the OT "Symposium on Organization Transformation" 
>>> taking place each July in different locations. The 9th US OT was in 
>>> Colorado '91 and the 12th US OT was in Napa California '94 - and that's the 
>>> limit of my memory :)
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 10:02 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
>>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> The questions of when, how many and where have persisted over the years. 
>>> Frankly I can't remember either. Even the first one is foggy in terms of 
>>> year -- but I know where... Day's Inn at Dulles Airport. Suggestion is that 
>>> you use the search function on OSLIST. Somewhere "back there" I am sure you 
>>> will find the collective ruminations. 
>>&g

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

PS: Counting the countries I amuse myself thinking that Austria, Germany, 
Estonia, etc. are counted as different countries, and the whole USA and the 
whole of Canada are one country each.
Which means that there were „just“ folks from 11 countries, as most 
participants where from the USA and Canada.

> Am 14.07.2019 um 17:06 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> :
> 
> Dear Peggy,
> 
> If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on the 
> pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.
> 
> At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on OSI USA 
> activities.
> 
> You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
> on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in that 
> session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...
> 
> Many reports contain cross references and links.
> The whole thing is a treausure chest.
> Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a worldwide 
> group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:
>> I remember that closing circle!
>> You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
>> gatherings.
>> https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
>> The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
>> countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
>> find that information.
>> Peggy Holman
>> 206-948-0432
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
>>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
>>> became obvious to the group).
>>> 
>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
>>> numbers like:
>>> 
>>>- How many participants were we?
>>>- From approximately how many countries?
>>> 
>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>>> 
>>>- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>>>- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
>>> this year?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>>> Marai
>>> 
>>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>> 
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> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 485 resident Open Space 
> Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> At my publisher you find books and task cards on open space, most in German, 
> some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
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Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Michael M & dear Peggy, 
thank you for your responses and links to all the WOSonOSes.
What a richness!

And thank you, Michael M for being so thorough! 
I had browsed the proceedings and totally overlooked the participant list…

Yes indeed, a total treasure chest. Also, I am amazed how many of those topics 
could totally be posted in an OST today.

Like: 
- Coaching/mentoring with leaders of an organization before/during  an 
OS-meeting 
- How can OS help with the integration of immigrants in our countries?  
- Where does the energy go? Post-event implementation 
…

I smiled seeing my report on the topic I posted back then. And reading the 
names of 22 great folks who joined. 
Having OST memories going back that long, I suddenly feel like an OST elder… 
That’s new!

Marai


> Am 14.07.2019 um 17:06 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> :
> 
> Dear Peggy,
> 
> If you dig into the proceedings you will find a list of participants on the 
> pages 77, 78 and 79 pretty close to the last page.
> 
> At the very end there are some fancy charts on reporting in detail on OSI USA 
> activities.
> 
> You included a fancy report with colored charts in report nr 38
> on The Dynamics of Conscious Emergence. There were about 25 folks in that 
> session, from Sweden, Austria, USA, Canada, UK, Turkey...
> 
> Many reports contain cross references and links.
> The whole thing is a treausure chest.
> Including a group poem shared in the closing circle produced by a worldwide 
> group of about 25 folks from Turkey to Haiti and so on.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> AYm 14.07.2019 um 15:48 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList:
>> I remember that closing circle!
>> You’ll find some of your answers on this page listing all of the WOSONOS 
>> gatherings.
>> https://openspaceworld.org/wp2/osonos/
>> The Halifax proceedings are posted but I don’t see a count of people or 
>> countries. Harrison’s suggestion of searching the archives might work to 
>> find that information.
>> Peggy Holman
>> 206-948-0432
>> Sent from my iPad
>> On Jul 14, 2019, at 4:07 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova 
>>> Scotia. This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories 
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making 
>>> (the way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it 
>>> became obvious to the group).
>>> 
>>> I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are 
>>> numbers like:
>>> 
>>>- How many participants were we?
>>>- From approximately how many countries?
>>> 
>>> And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
>>> Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:
>>> 
>>>- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
>>>- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up to 
>>> this year?
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot in advance!
>>> Marai
>>> 
>>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>> 
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> 
> 
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> Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
> A

[OSList] WOSonOS 2005 Nova Scotia - do you remember

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hey folks,

I am writing a short story about my experience at WOSonOS 2005 in Nova Scotia. 
This will likely be published as a contribution to a short stories book.

It was my first and life-changing experience with collective sense making (the 
way the location for the next WOSonOS was chosen, or rather: how it became 
obvious to the group).

I have the session reports from back then, but what I am missing are numbers 
like:

- How many participants were we?
- From approximately how many countries?

And then the questions that probably have been asked many times before.
Yet I still couldn’t find the „right“ answer:

- Since when does WOSonOS exist?
- In which locations / or in how many locations has it taken place up 
to this year?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele

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Re: [OSList] open message to Nick Martin

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Nick,

I wanted to wait and listen to others voices before writing more. So here I am 
back again :)

Reading your response, "I'm always excited and willing to receive feedback.“ I 
smile and appreciate your willingness!

Wow, it was even a year that you wrote to the list. When I remember back, my 
memory says there were more people participating in the email conversation, 
giving you feedback in that form instead of via the document. My assumption 
(which could be totally off, of course) is that several of them weren’t 
inspired to contribute to your document as one could argue the overall tone and 
approach was quite far from what you call „the traditional OST“.

Looking at your doc today, I am also not energised to contribute more. While I 
am not a programmer, I believe to know that at times it’s better to replace 
mixed up code completely, instead of trying to keep mending it. 

So… picking up on Harold Shinsato’s message:

Why not go to the original description of OST as referenced there (or to 
another source by Harrison Owen) to describe „traditional OST“. 
Why create a new description with so many variations as yours has?

(On a side note, I have become really curious where that description originates 
from = Is this how you do OST? Have you learned doing it that way somewhere? 
Did you read about doing it this way? How did it come about?)

Last not least: In the comments below your post I see Harrison Owen’s. Quote: 

(…) You can call this some other thing. Unconference, barcamp, etc. are 
variants where the organisers or “facilitators’ feel a need to impose a little 
more structure and a little of their ego into the event. Of course it’s mostly 
unintentional, but it’s still what’s happening.
Open Space Technology, it is not.

Please permit your ego to give it a different name, to avoid misinforming 
others.

Receiving such a comment from the originator discoverer of anything would make 
me really think deeply. And honouring their authority, I would then choose a 
new name while referencing their approach as an inspiration, but claim 
ownership of my add-ons.

Having written all that, I am also remembering that so much stays unexpressed 
and unexplored in an email space. I do have an honest, real, deep desire to 
understand your choice of doing this balancing edge/split of creating something 
different (the twist) while naming it as if it was close to the original. If 
you are open to that, I’d love to have a live virtual conversation with you 
instead of email.

I always wonder… where is the deeper truth? The meeting point? Beyond any 
thoughts of being right or wrong?
Marai

Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing

Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,

there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

 
When the soul lies down in that grass,

the world is too full to talk about.

Ideas, language, even the phrase “each other” doesn’t make any sense.

 
mevlana jelaluddin rumi – 13th century poet and spiritual teacher



> Am 05.06.2019 um 08:33 schrieb Nick Martin :
> 
> Thanks for your open letter Marai. I'm always excited and willing to receive 
> feedback.
> 
> As you'll remember over a year ago I opened up the content of this article 
> for comments and input from this list in the form of a Google Doc. 
> 
> Such was the passion exhibited in the original thread I was eager and excited 
> to receive your inputs. Unfortunately only two people replied though. I'm 
> very grateful to both you and Keith Blundell for taking the time.
> 
> I must admit life took over and in my wait for more input other priorities 
> took over. I'm happy to revisit it now though as I can feel the energy is 
> back and I'd like to the right thing in the eyes of this excellent community.
> 
> Here's the link - 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> Please add your thoughts, comments and feedback and amend the article as best 
> I can.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Nick Martin
> Founder & CEO, WorkshopBank
> 
> M  +45 42 47 00 74   
> E 
> n...@workshopbank.com  
>   W  workshopbank.com  
>  
>    
>  
> 
>
> 
> On 05/06/2019 01:53, Marai Kiele wrote:
>> Hello Nick Martin,
>> 
>> I find myself tense in my belly after reading your newsletter today:
>> 
>>  I just wanted to share with you a popular WorkshopBank tool 
>> 

[OSList] open message to Nick Martin

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hello Nick Martin,

I find myself tense in my belly after reading your newsletter today:

I just wanted to share with you a popular WorkshopBank tool 

 you can start using with your clients right away. Let me know what you think.

You suggest that the reader lets you know what they think. I choose to do that.

I also choose to do that in the form of an open letter, as several months back 
you asked on the os-list for input to your description of the OST process for 
the Workshopbank.
You introduced your version of „OST with a twist“, and there was a somewhat 
heated discussion on this list about it.
I participated in both, revising and giving you feedback on your description 
(as requested) and discussing about „is something with such a twist still OST?“

Your twist was about giving the leaders control about the topics. 

Back then I used the analogy that you are mixing red wine with coca cola (which 
some people actually do and drink — I tried it out as a teenager).
And that calling such a beverage „red wine with a twist“ is an inaccurate 
representation of a) red wine and b) the taste that a consumer will experience.
(side note: usually, this mix is done with red wine of poor quality)

In my analogy, OST is the red wine and controlling the process is the 
coke.

In your description, you early on distinguish between OST and OST with a twist. 
I first appreciated you for making that distinction so upfront. 
Then I read what you wrote under:
If you’re following the traditional Open Space Process...

1
Gather your participants together and briefly explain how Open Space events 
work using Harrison Owen’s 1 Law and the Guiding Principles as appropriate. 
Traditionally you should do this with everyone in a circle around you but you 
don’t necessarily have to. 
2
Ask participants to spend 10 minutes thinking through if they have any issues 
they’d like to raise.
3
If there is a general agreement that the issue has enough support and passion 
behind it invite the issue owner to add the issue to the schedule.
4
Once all issues have been added invite the participants to sign-up for the 
sessions they’re planning on attending (they are free to change their mind 
later if they want to).
5
Your sessions start.

There is much more on this page that, as I see it, is NOT "the traditional Open 
Space Process“. I am giving just some further examples:
https://workshopbank.com/open-space-technology
Process for a Session

1
Each session should be a round group of chairs (no table in the middle) with 
preferably one facilitator to lead the discussion and a scribe on the 
flip-chart.
2
A session starts with the issue owner welcoming and thanking the group for 
coming and then giving a description of the issue as they see it.
3
The facilitator then leads the discussion inviting people to give their input 
at their request.
4
The scribe records the discussion on flip chart paper making sure to mark 
Issues, Ideas, Questions (that can’t be answered today) & Actions. When a flip 
is finished they should tear it off and put it in the center of the circle or 
on a nearby wall for people in the group to see.
5
Allow people to leave and arrive as they see fit though don’t allow them to 
interrupt or slow-down your progress. It is a new arrival’s responsibility to 
catch-up with the discussion using the flip chart outputs no matter how high up 
or important they are.
6
When the issue looks like it has been covered and there are no more inputs 
coming from your group thank them for their time and invite them to join other 
groups if the session time is not over.

To me, calling this description "the traditional Open Space Process“ I wonder if

- I am totally rigid and should just loosen up to the variations of OST
- You have never experienced a traditional Open Space Process
- You just don’t care about the originality and instead rather cater to 
business needs of controlled processes that limit self-organisation
- I misremember all my trainings with Harrison Owen, Michael M 
Pannwitz, Michael Pannwitz jr, Joe Töpfer, and last but not least Birgitt 
Williams. 
- or… ?

I totally don’t get it. 
I don’t like what you are doing.
I also dislike that you market this description of „the traditional Open Space 
Process“ as „a popular WorkshopBank Tool“.

I feel sad when I imagine people following your description and spreading the 
word that „this is the traditional way of doing OST“.

Using my former analogy: 
I imagine what you are doing is like a beverage shop introducing someone who 
has never tasted a good red wine to that beverage.
Because this person usually 

Re: [OSList] Thank You for your Feedback - Test Drive Coaching in Open Space?

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Woohoo ! 

Dear Jake and all who contributed to this thread in March
(I am catching up with 400 unread emails from two lists ;-) )

I am excited about this approach of transferring OST into coaching !

When I came across OST in 2003, one of the questions was, „what is the minimum 
number for OST to work“? 
Some of us (including myself) thought „at least 7 to make it juicy“, and of 
course this was proven to be untrue.
Soon thereafter, a colleague of mine (René) created a beautiful report on an 
OST he did all by and for himself...

So hosting an OST for one participant (coaché) immediately evokes my interest.
I may not do it as formally as you describe, but anyhow: I am interested in 
participating in a test drive!
(and if you are beyond the test drive state, please report here again!)

You can email me directly at ma...@joyful-together.com

Marai


> Am 16.03.2019 um 17:55 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Thank you so much for your feedback on the Coaching in Open Space draft! It 
> was very helpful. Here is the final first draft:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FnVvlactb55pm3M4TndiQ2FIcoFbzQsK4CL3Dc23Svk/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> Now it's time to test drive the approach. Please reach out if you'd like to 
> participate.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Much love,
> Jake
> 
> 
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
> will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams 
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Re: [OSList] OST as a way to go in addressing climate change and other perils

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

I am just catching up on 2 months of OST list emails, therefor this is short 
notice (for today or/and next Wednesday).

We are hosting OST calls pre- and post the conferences "Climate Change and 
Consciousness" www.ccc19.org and „Imagine Convergence“ 
http://imagineconvergence.com/

Everyone interested in this topic AND in ways to integrate and ground the 
energy from such transformational conferences is invited!

Marai Kiele 
(on behalf of Conference Weavers)

Integrate and ground the energy from transformational conferences
held in March and April 2019

Conference Weavers 

in partnership with 
Imagine Convergence  

and
Climate Change and Consciousness 

 
Vision Holder/Convener Stephanie Mines 
present: 
 Now What?!

A participatory conversation with peers to carry the energy of 
upcoming or recently completed conferences out into the world 
via the networks and local hubs that are connected to them
Open Space Zoom conversations on April 10 and 17 (and more)
Noon-3pm US Pacific/19:00-22:00 UTC
Find your local time here 

 
Special guest conversation-starter on April 10:
filmmaker Ian Mackenzie 

 (Sacred Economics)
​
Note: if these dates/times don’t work, you can identify other options between 
April 11-20 when you want to join a small group conversation on a topic of your 
choosing
 
Register here 



> Am 19.02.2019 um 00:36 schrieb Alan Stewart via OSList 
> :
> 
>  G’day Fellow Spaceniks and other Kindred Spirits
> 
> The items below may be of interest to you.
> 
> They are about the looming perils of climate change and associated ways to 
> consider and act on them, recently come to my attention.
> 
> I have followed such matters keenly since I attended a presentation by James 
> Hansen 
> 
>  while living in Hong Kong a decade ago. 
> 
> 
> 
> My question: Could bringing Open Space Technology (OST 
> ) approaches be a vital means to address 
> constructively the issues we face as global humanity in the now Anthropocene 
> with its perils and opportunities?
> 
> 
> See:
> 
> Opinion | Time to Panic - The New York Times 
> 
>  
> Using Open Space to address climate change matters
> 
> https://jembendell.wordpress.com/2019/02/08/deep-adaptation-retreat-uk-2019/ 
> 
>  
> 
> We need to have a paradigm shift in how we view society and life.
> 
> https://americanminion.blog/2018/12/16/we-need-a-paradigm-shift/   
> 
> Also: Fourth National Climate Change Assessment 
> 
> 
>  (To add:  Here is a report, entitled 
>  
> Vision,
>  Values and Vibes  which 
> illustrates my credentials as a Spacenik!) 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Tall orders indeed! Yet are there any means at hand other than OST 
>  with its underpinning premises and highly 
> practical approaches to addressing complex issues - now needed urgently to 
> create a viable living for succeeding generations of we humans and other 
> inhabitants of our tiny, fragile planet home?
> 
> With young people, particularly school children, crying out for necessary 
> action: 
> 
> 
> https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/07/this-is-the-climate-generation-thousands-of-students-join-netherlands-protest
>  
> 
> Next such events are happening all around Australia on March 15, 2019. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To conclude:
> 
> While I feel a need and associated responsibility – given the particular 
> experiencing I have had over nigh on eight decades of being an earthly 
> denizen (including participating in seven 'World Open Space on Open Space' 
> gatherings, beginning in 1998) - to bring these perspectives to your notice …
> 
> It is, in my mind, for you younger Spaceniks to make what you will of them. 
> Given that what I have drawn attention to 

Re: [OSList] Pueblo, Colorado is NOW OPEN Again!

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Yeah!! 

Your celebration swings across the ocean and is experienced by me as a wave of 
renewal, courage, and hands-on dreaming (meant in the best way, as in Dragon 
Dreaming).
Thank you for sharing it!! 

Marai Kiele


> Am 24.01.2019 um 14:31 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
> :
> 
> We had a historic election two days ago and now have a new Leader who will 
> restore the open, collaborative SPIRIT of Pride in Pueblo, Colorado.  We 
> changed the form of government from a closed shop to an open Mayor form of 
> government.  We now have a solid leader again, with pure intent to call upon 
> the best creative thinking and innovation to solve our deep problems.  As 
> Harrison "The Great" Owen has divined for the world to understand, (something 
> that all of us facilitators have experienced, witnessed and felt) true SPIRIT 
> will come forth now to make good things happen again in Pueblo.
> 
> We are building a big addition on our conference center.  And Pueblo is NOW 
> OPEN again and welcoming of OST facilitators to help our fellow travelers 
> navigate the open space we find ourselves in. 
> 
> It is a new day folks and I am so happy to say we have turned a new corner 
> and I just wanted all you good people to know you are always welcome and 
> invited to come to Pueblo, Colorado for your Open Space and see the Magic 
> Transformation Take Hold.
> 
> Mark Carmel
> Peacemaker 
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Re: [OSList] Report From The Field

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Mark,

I appreciate your flow of energy and appreciation, both for OST and Harrison! 
I am fascinated, hearing about the „at that time“ largest educational 
transformation group and I honour you as someone who has walked the trails of 
OST before me.

At the same time, I notice my resentment in regard to this part of your 
sharing: 

"beware of the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs“ and 
"fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change".

I actually don’t live within a paradigm of something like „evil spirits“, and I 
find myself quite „resistant" to changing that world-view. I also don’t believe 
in setting myself up „against“ anything, but instead I believe in focusing on 
what is wanted. For me, this would include honouring those with a different 
perspective on what I desire (which might be change or transformation in regard 
to a specific subject).

I have heard the term, „the client is resistant“ both in therapy and consulting 
contexts, and I notice great discomfort within me towards this kind of label. 

Not mostly, but also from my personal experience of someone giving me that 
„batch of honour". Someone who didn’t understand my perspective and how I was 
actually serving a group with my intervention. It has now happened to me 
several times that someone said to me (sometimes years later): „NOW I get you! 
I thought you were just annoying/resistant, but you were right / actually ahead 
of us with your perspective“.

And.. there are times when I am not at all ahead, but truly resistant to 
change. For example because of different priorities. 

I will never forget the disbelief of the person at the iPhone help desk of my 
mobile phone provider: 

I called to ask how to activate my new iPhone 6. Which had been sitting in my 
desk for OVER A YEAR unused, after I had received the new model. He couldn’t 
believe that I hadn’t activated it right away. I imagine he might have shared 
that story during his coffee break with colleagues and all of them shaking 
their heads or laughing about that strange client.
I just hadn't wanted to let go of my iPhone 3s (until I really had to because I 
couldn’t get software updates anymore). Back then, I so preferred its design. I 
mostly used it to make calls, not for the internet, and it fit so nicely into 
my hand and the back pocket of my jeans… Clearly a criteria that many tech 
savvy people will not find as important at I did!

So the „moral“ of my story: What might be the things that other people value 
which we don’t understand, when we judge them as „resistant“?

I very much appreciate how that perspective is embodied in this short video, 
narrated by Charles Eisenstein: 

What is it like to be you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uStmnodUpOo

Also, isn’t OST based on invitation? And if there is something like „resistance 
to following an invitation“, is it a true invitation in the first place?

(Kudos to Dan Mezick and Mark Sheffield and their book on Inviting 
Leadership) 

With respect,
Marai



> Am 08.01.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList 
> :
> 
> Greetings Fellow OST Practitioners!
> 
> It is an honor to join you once again.  I met the great Harrison Owen in the 
> early 1990's and began immediately facilitating Open Space.  I hope some of 
> you remember me.  Guided by Harrison's mentor-ship I set the world record 
> with a 700 person group in 1993, the largest at the time for an educational 
> transformation.  
> 
> To my fellow followers of His Honor, Harrison "The GREAT" Owen, THE Inventor 
> of the Magic and Miracle of OPEN SPACE, (or the Receiver, from the Great 
> Inventor...) I honor you for carrying on His Legacy.  
> 
> May I suggest to ALL, that when the Space is Opened to the Spirit of Change, 
> you are playing with the fire of the crucible right there, fomenting the 
> ferver that IS the crux of CHAOS, and thus bringing out the very, very Good 
> in people, and also, sometimes, the bad.  In all your preparations, beware of 
> the evil spirits that seek the status quo at all costs, sometimes, literally. 
>  Change dies hard, as it is said, and in America, we now live in Retaliation 
> Nation, where change, may be, and is, often, met with resistance.  
> 
> To fortify oneself against the forces that WILL seek to undermine change (and 
> not in an open way, quite the contrary), and undermine the change agents 
> championing change, one tidbit of hopefully useful observation is warranted:  
> Make SURE Leadership is SOLID!  
> 
> It is such a joy to see O.S.T. alive and well.  We ALL have Harrison to thank 
> for His Gift of the Spirit of Human Understanding, Peace, and Reconciliation. 
>  Thank YOU, dear Father Harrison Owen!! 
> 
> Cheers!  Long May OST Live!!
> 
> O - Open Invitation
> S - System Innovation
> T - Transformation Communication
> 
> Peace!!
> 
> Mark Carmel
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Re: [OSList] Online Open Space - Tue 18 Dec - 6pm EST

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Thank you for the invitation, Harold. My heart smiles as I imagine joining.

And… I assume I will not make it, unless the night owl gene in me gets very 
active that day. 
That’s a tough time to join from Europe. 

Warmly, Marai

> Am 05.12.2018 um 06:13 schrieb Harold Shinsato via OSList 
> :
> 
> The Open Space Institute U.S. is holding it's annual member Open Space on 
> Tuesday December 18, from 6-8pm. We're using Zoom video again with breakouts 
> using Qiqochat like we did last year. All are welcome, not just members.
> 
> As our theme - the question is "How are we holding space for Open Space this 
> past year and years to come?"
> 
> Use the link below to join. If you've never used Qiqochat before, I recommend 
> you try it at least a day before. As you'll need to set up an account and 
> you'll need to install Zoom.
> 
> http://bit.ly/osius2018 
> 
> Warm Regards,
> Harold
> on behalf of the Open Space Institute U.S. - https://osius.org 
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[OSList] * LOVE and RAGE *

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hey all,

The election in the US is coming closer, and this article on how to stand up, 
deal with bullies and integrate rage and love just hit home for me.

Bridging these two energies is a continues quest for me. I also believe it’s 
one of the doorways into activism that operates beyond “othering”.

https://www.getdrip.com/broadcasts/32141001/1426017592e961a245b6f 


Since several months I am highly involved in the Radical Honesty movement. 
The article is by Carsie Blanton, daughter of the founder of RH, and inspiring 
musician.

The article comes with a music playlist “songs for raging at bullies“. 
She is also nominating a 15 year old Swedish girl for president of the Universe!

Have fun, dance, rage, love and if you are so inclined, share this message with 
one or two others.

Marai 
— exploring love & rage = courage!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marai-kiele-26328811b/ 
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[OSList] Ignite Video Challenge starts tomorrow

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

The Ignite Video Challenge: From Camera Shy to Camera Confident in 30 Days is 
starting tomorrow.

*

Hey friends in OST,

I participated in a free online video course some months ago, which helped me 
to become so much more comfortable with creating videos. This is all about 
being genuine and heart-centred, so if creating videos (for your blog or 
website or…) is intriguing to you, please check this out.

I am going to participate a second time, as the first time around I grew so 
much…

Marai

PS: No, I don’t get any recommendation fee, I just loved what the course 
provided.
That’s why I can recommend it whole-heartedly. I also love being of service to 
you :)
And I love what you stand for, so I want it to be seen in the world!

*

The Ignite Video Challenge: From Camera Shy to Camera Confident in 30 Days is 
starting tomorrow.
 
This is your opportunity to get comfortable on camera, while learning piece by 
piece how to create great videos that create impact and connection (wohooo! 
right?)

If you want to take part this round there is an important action step you need 
to take ASAP!

Click here to get all the info and register for the challenge. 


This is going to be a VERY special round of the challenge as it’s grown so big 
that this is the FINAL time it will be offered for free (for the foreseeable 
future).
 
We've had thousands of people go through our challenge, and people love it so 
much they keep coming back. 
 
“I am SO excited, I can’t wait! I’ve made so much progress with my videos by 
doing this amazing challenge last time – I went from deer in the headlights to 
doing my own challenge this week, and I just recorded 5 videos of 23 minutes 
each…Thank you SO much Niamh for doing this once again!”
~ Claudia Svartefoss (Bestseller to Business Success Coach)
 
To accommodate the enormous growth of the challenge, but still retain our 
intimate and connected atmosphere we introduced "Circles", groups within the 
group which provide extra support and connection. You need to actively register 
for THIS ROUND to get a circle assignment and be able to participate.

(You are welcome to join if you've done it before or haven’t, started and 
stopped, never turned on a camera, don't have a business... basically everyone 
is welcome. If you want to get comfy on camera and learn about video, find out 
more and sign up:  https://lightitupvideo.com/ignite/ 
.)
 
I'm beyond excited. This is already gearing up to be the best challenge yet! 
 
However you feel (nervous, scared, excited, a mix?) it's all normal, and you 
absolutely CAN transform it. 
 
“This challenge is sooo amazing. OMG it is gold! Pure gold! My youtube channel 
is up and running. Wow oh wow. I never would have accomplished this without 
your help and all the help of the other challengers! Somehow I found the honey 
pot, as they say.”
 ~ Diane Mathias (Artist, Writer, and Facilitator)
 
The challenge is the perfect place to be.
 
Lots of Love,
Niamh
 
“This is the greatest experience! It’s more than just getting comfortable on 
camera. It’s being part of a fantastic group, making friends and getting used 
to being yourself on and off camera.”
~ Barbara Dahm (Certified Fluency Specialist)
 
P.S. If you don't know what the heck The Ignite Video Challenge is... here's 
the details:
 
It’s a 30 day Free challenge to help you get comfortable being yourself on 
camera, and learn how to create great, simple, yet powerful low-tech videos!
Each weekday of the challenge you get a recording tip to help you frame, light, 
and get the most out of your video equipment… AND you get a prompt so you know 
what to talk about!

Then you record a 2-minute video and share it with your circle in our private 
Facebook group.

This way you can practice and learn in a totally safe space!

It’s starting on Monday September 24th… so jump on in! 

 

What Past Challengers are Saying:
 
“About 4 months ago I started making videos for my business (that I was 
actually in, not just directing), which has been I really important new way I 
am communicating with people... My classes went from being all text based, to 
having lots more video which has been way more effective for me. And it all 
started because I did a free 30-day video challenge…It was amazing for me, and 
in 30-days gave me a whole new skill, that I now rely on ALL THE TIME.”
~ Christina Empedocles (Artist and Financial Mentor)
 
“Loads of people panic when they see "Facebook live" or any type of video 
because they think they need to be "perfect" before going on camera! If you've 
seen my videos you'll know that you certainly don't 

Re: [OSList] A Question About Safety

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hello Sarah,

I followed your links and browsed through the reports.
What it brings up in me is:

a) Some of these questions seem to belong to a preparation meeting, where a 
subsystem of those who are going to gather looks at: 
the intention / the invitation / who should participate and how that can be 
made possible / is OST the right format for what is intended to achieve?

b) I also wonder about the impact of the length of an OST event. Longer events 
(with a night to sleep on things in between) can allow a community to go 
through more of a transformational process. 

c) Last not least: Doing OST doesn’t mean it’s all roses and butterflies, but 
that whatever is there within a system becomes visible. That may not always 
look pretty.

d) Daniel Mezick shared links on „psychological safety“ two days ago. A topic 
very dear to my heart.

There is a huge difference between a group and a team. In my understanding, 
your OST experience brings together a „group" of people. 
„Teaming“ = the capacity to build a team that achieves something together, and 
that might evolve into a high-performance team with all the ingredients as 
described in the Google study, needs much more than just gathering once within 
an OST.
After I had fallen in love with OST in 2003 I came to the realisation that I am 
desiring more connection, collaboration and deeper conversations than I 
experienced in several OST events I participated in. My experience is that 
people don’t turn into great listeners, appreciative speakers and mature human 
beings just by participating in a 1 day OST event. There are skills to be 
learned and capacities to developed that may take years or a whole life-time...
There are great things that OST makes possible, but it’s not the cure to 
everything.

e) Last not least, allow me to gently express something that just crossed my 
mind while writing. I may be completely off road with it. It’s just a hunch… 
I just wondered about the team who organises these events and the level of 
safety within in? I am a great believer in the world matching / mirroring us 
what’s going on inside of ourselves.

I believe asking for more rules and regulations is an expression of a true 
need, but without having reached the core issue, yet. That’s why I love 
facilitating team explorations where we go beyond quick fixes, coming from the 
mind, and go deeper. Until we have found the hidden treasures...

My 2 cents,
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele


> Am 23.08.2018 um 12:04 schrieb Sarah Grange via OSList 
> :
> 
> The question of “Safe spaces” has come up recently in our regular OST 
> programme, following some incidents where participants felt there was racism 
> and transphobia at our big annual event. There was a request for more rules 
> or guidelines, which we’ve resisted, but it’s a thorny old issue because not 
> everyone feels strong enough to call out bad behaviour when it happens, and 
> the natural reaction is to look to us as organisers to discipline or regulate 
> behaviour. There’s also a tendency for people to report bad behaviour after 
> the event, so we’re unable to support or facilitate a conversation in the 
> moment. I don’t know what to do about this beyond keep on having the 
> conversation with participants. We eventually held an OS specifically on the 
> question of supporting people within Os 
>   and 
> there was considerable disagreement, with some participants calling for rules 
>  or stronger 
> guidelines on how to hold conversations 
> 
>  and others (including me) 
>  
> feeling that would disempower people rather than support them, and was 
> totally un-OST.  The issue remains unresolved, so I’d love to know if anyone 
> has tried anything along the guidelines/participant-led codes of conduct etc 
> and whether there was any success with that.. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSList] Open Space as Yarning Space (long)

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

What a colourful and vivid story. 
Thank you Brendan for taking the time to describe it so richly!

I got as curious as Jeff about the billabongs (first needed to look up the 
word).
Maybe there are a space where special flowers and animals can flourish?
Please fill us in :-)

Marai

> Am 18.05.2018 um 09:54 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> :
> 
> Thank you. Very rich. Lots to appreciate here.
> 
> One initial question stands out: how do billabongs act in open space? 
> 
> (We know about the butterflies and bees.) With thanks
> 
> Jeff
> San Francisco
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 12:38 AM Brendan McKeague via OSList 
> > 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> Here is a story (Irish style) of a recent Open Space meeting 'in disguise'.  
> I hope it adds something to our ongoing learning and collective wisdom.
> 
> Cheers
> Brendan
> 
> 
> Open Space as Yarning Space - an Australian story
>  
> Context
> A group of five different ‘language/family groups’ wishing to pursue their 
> intention of working together to submit a claim for native title over a 
> certain area of land that their families had continuous connection with for 
> many years. There was a history of disagreement, division and destructive 
> conflict between some of the group during the past 10 years, illustrated by 
> separate, competing claims over parts of the area in question.  They had 
> arrived at a place where most of the elders had decided it was time to work 
> together otherwise their chances of achieving a successful claim in the 
> national Native Title Court would be unlikely.  In order to prepare 
> themselves for the next steps in submitting a formal legal claim over the 
> region, they suggested it would be appropriate to spend a couple of days 
> together so that ‘they could sit and yarn' about the issues that divided them 
> in the past, about how they might reconcile with each other and how they 
> might work together in the future.  The sponsor, a representative of the 
> regional Land Council that would be responsible for resourcing the meeting, 
> wondered if an Open Space style meeting would be appropriate. 
> 
> 
> Naming the Process
> Another part of the context was that the sponsoring body did not have a 
> favourable disposition towards Open Space. I’m not sure of the details, 
> although it sounded like someone in senior management had previously 
> experienced some sort of Open Space meeting and wasn’t impressed. My contact 
> within the system asked that we not call it an Open Space meeting.  I was 
> happy to oblige and we came up with the loosely described notion of creating 
> Yarning Circles ('yarning circle' is frequently used in indigenous vocabulary 
> in Australia to describe a group, often referred to as 'a mob’, sitting in a 
> circle discussing/having a yarn about whatever mattered to them. So the 
> underlying concept was similar, without the structure of an OST meeting). 
> 
> From an introductory meeting with the family leaders, we formulated an 
> invitation that asked the questions: ‘how will we work together AND respect 
> our individual differences and identities?’
> 
> In describing the process, I simply renamed the main circle as the group 
> Yarning Circle, and the break-out spaces as Yarning Places…everything else 
> pretty much the usual set-up.  I shortened the principles on the posters to 
> read: Right People; Right Time; Right Place; Right Yarning…the Law of Two 
> Feet; Butterflies, Bees and Billabongs; Be Prepared to Be Surprised…and 
> linked my introduction to each of these. 
> 
> 
> The Event
> There was a lot of anticipation about what might happen. The complexity of 
> longstanding inter-familial, inter-generational disputes is well known in the 
> world of native title in Australia. Security guards were hired for the 
> meeting so that only those who were entitled to be there (another 
> interpretation of 'the right people') were admitted. This was to do with the 
> requirement that only those who are directly descended from the original 
> ‘traditional owners’ of the particular areas are entitled to be part of the 
> discussions and eventual decision-making process. There are strict protocols 
> around anthropologist 'connection research’ to ensure that this is the case 
> and these reports often generate additional conflicts among family groups.  
> 
> On the first morning of the two-day event, while people were beginning to 
> gather in the meeting space, there was a very animated and highly charged 
> interaction between two rather large men (I subsequently discovered these 
> were two brothers who had not spoken directly to each other for nearly ten 
> years) and this generated a burst of high tension energy.  A security guard 
> intervened, in a very professional, low-key way, creating a pause between the 
> men and providing an opportunity for some of their mutual relatives 

Re: [OSList] Fwd: Hope Never Dies!

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear Nick,

I am very appreciative of you writing openly on this list, after the 
conversations that happened beforehand!

I went over to your document and made some comments on the process. 
Found a sense of „this process needs to be controlled to have a good outcome“ 
at several places.

Since a while I am mostly contemplating on your introduction to the twist. 
You write:

"I’ve added a twist with the inclusion of a pre-event process that 
gives the sponsors / organizers a little more control over the agenda."

Would you elaborate about the benefit of the sponsor / organiser having control 
over the agenda?

And how, „having control over the agenda“ and the basic intentions of OST (i.e. 
trusting the people and their innate wisdom) go together for you?
They don’t go well together for me.

Let me make this clearer with an analogy:

There is red wine. There is coke. 
There are many people who like one or the other. 
There are people who like both, at different times.

There are also people who like mixing those two.
(I tried it once when I was a teenager.)

Many of those who like red wine will probably shutter imagining such a mix. 
Especially when imagining a really good red wine plus coke, in equal proportion.
And still, it’s an official drink, it even has a Wikipedia entry: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalimotxo

If you offered someone such a mix, would you call it „red whine with a twist“?

I suggest you create a name that is showing more openly what you are doing with 
the twist.
"Open Space and Control" or a completely new name.

With curiosity for your perspective, 
Marai

PS: As a side note, to understand this conversation better (and because I only 
re-joined this list a short while ago): 
Have you been on this list before or did you just join after the topic came up? 




> Am 06.04.2018 um 14:30 schrieb Nick Martin via OSList 
> :
> 
> Hi everybody!
> 
> Thank you all so much for your excellent feedback. I've been watching with 
> enormous interest.
> 
> I've just had a great Skype with Bhav where he was kind enough to take me 
> through in more detail where my rendition of Open Space is veering from the 
> traditional. It was incredibly enlightening (thanks again Bhav).
> 
> For me, it's critical I get this right for readers of my website who are far 
> less experienced than your good selves so I'm committed to changing it.
> 
> Bhav suggested that I might create an editable Google Doc of a new draft and 
> share it with you for comments and edits. I thought that a wonderful idea! 
> Here it is and I promise to publish whatever we end up with ... assuming it's 
> clean :)
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ufIsy0BQvIqlRUbW0FAyXHGV0IKw3VdDT8L91RIJJU8/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> Naturally the Law of Two Feet very much applies so please don't feel 
> obligated. All input and feedback is very much appreciated.
> 
> 
>  
>  
> Nick Martin
> WorkshopBank 
> 
> m: +45 42 47 00 74  | e: n...@workshopbank.com 
>  | w: workshopbank.com 
> 
>      
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/04/2018 16:37, Dan Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> “CFCF” (control for control freaks) might be a more appropriate name. Either 
>> that or “Project Management”. 
>> 
>> with a twist, of course.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList 
>> > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I see the site has a contact page: https://workshopbank.com/contact 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to give them some feedback and request they stop calling this 
>>> thing Open Space with a twist?
>>> 
>>> Peggy Holman 
>>> 425-746-6274
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Harrison Owen via OSList >
 Date: April 4, 2018 at 6:40:52 AM PDT
 To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" 
 >
 Cc: Harrison Owen >
 Subject: Re: [OSList] Hope Never Dies!
 Reply-To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
 >
 
 This is not the first time for this conversation… The simple truth: Old 
 habits die very hard. The habit of thinking/hoping/wishing/knowing that 
 somebody is in charge doesn’t play 

Re: [OSList] OST in India

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Heidi and all,

I also remembered and just looked for the 4 laws of spirituality from India:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m6HSdYuvHY

Birgitt Williams has worked a lot in India and will probably share about it, 
when she comes to reading this thread.

I remember posts from our Indian Genuine Contact colleagues which made it very 
clear to me:
They embraced the depth and naturalness of this work with ease. Even more ease 
than many westerners, it seemed.

(The Genuine Contact approach includes OST and many other processes - Whole 
Person Process Facilitation etc - all in alignment with the spirit of OST).

See their Facebook page with some OST pictures: 
https://www.facebook.com/Genuine-Contact-Space-1696912453783156/

Marai


> Am 31.03.2018 um 06:43 schrieb Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> :
> 
> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/country/IN 
> 
> 
> Several people listed here who have worked in India using OST.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 7:25 PM R Chaffe via OSList 
> > 
> wrote:
> To support the posts so far.  Open Space technology that I had the privilege 
> to be part of seemed to be just the right thing as it reflected many of the 
> values that are present in the various cultural and religious practices in 
> the society that I shared.  Because it is so your client may be looking for 
> the Western World simplistic imposed solutions.  You challenge may be the 
> fact that everyone has an equal space, every idea is welcome, complexity is 
> seen as a natural component of the issues and opportunities and that there 
> may be confronting, challenging and radical suggestions.  Opening space has 
> the promise of gleaning the ideas, suggestions, issues that are within that 
> business community so the sponsor must be able to accept this and in their 
> opening, enabling address must sincerely convey this to the participants.  So 
> when they step back the participants are ready to post their topic without 
> hesitation.  The social structures in India often mean that various sections 
> of the community are excluded as they are members of the other class or cast. 
> This will be the major barrier to getting the whole of the business involved 
> and therefore major issue in engaging other sections in any change the event 
> using Open Space Technology “invents”.
> 
> Best of luck,  if you mission is based on pluck you will succeed if on luck 
> success is optional
> 
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> 
> On 31 Mar 2018, at 11:38 am, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
> > 
> wrote:
> 
>> OST was in India nearly before it was established in the USA - both in the 
>> same few years late 80s!
>> 
>> Others have stories I'm sure..m
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 5:30 PM Heidi Nobantu Saul via OSList 
>> > 
>> wrote:
>> Greetings OST World Community - from the high desert of Santa Fe, New Mexico 
>> ~
>> 
>> I have a potential client in India (a tech company) and it would be very 
>> helpful to be able to provide them with some companies, institutions or 
>> organizations that have used Open Space in India in recent years.  Meaning 
>> more recent than the original event in Goa - which I have mentioned to my 
>> client. 
>> 
>> They have the idea that it is an 'American' thing and therefor may not work 
>> as easily with Indian participants.
>> 
>> If any of you who have facilitated OST in India are willing to share where 
>> you did it/who for, I would be most appreciative!
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Heidi 
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [OSList] Leverage the power of NEUROSCIENCE to create impactful conversations that change the world

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear mmp,

the correct link is: https://coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728 
<https://coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728>

Only a „/„ was missing in the first one…

Best, Marai


> Am 24.03.2018 um 11:19 schrieb Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
> 
> Dear Marei,
> 
> the link
>> https:/coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728 
>> <http://coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728>
> 
> leads to
> Seite wurde nicht gefunden
> or
> Cant find this page
> 
> I fiddled with the link but that kept directing me to google...
> 
> Any ideaß
> 
> On my way to the March for our lives, coorganized by Democrats Abroad at the 
> Brandenburg Gate... demos usually increase my trust and creativity level, 
> often leaving me hoarse...
> 
> cheers
> mmp
> 
> Am 24.03.2018 um 08:20 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:
>> Hi colleagues,
>> This must have been a technical glitch of some kind.
>> I already send the email a while ago, now it came through a second time, but 
>> without me involved.
>> Marai
>>> Am 08.03.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList 
>>> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org 
>>> <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> 
>>> If any of you are interested in the neuroscience of conversations, there is 
>>> something which might be for you. A free webinar on CIQ = Conversational 
>>> Intelligence, by Judith Glaser.
>>> When it was first offered in 2016, I learned so much that I listened to it 
>>> twice. During the replay I took many screen shots. Am attaching some of 
>>> them to give you a taste.
>>> 
>>> Free webinars are screening from March 20th on. You can check it out here: 
>>> *https:/coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728 
>>> <http://coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728><https://modernmethods.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/70778/1c90f3da74a145bf/17962150/c0aae96c633ca4fa
>>>  
>>> <https://modernmethods.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/70778/1c90f3da74a145bf/17962150/c0aae96c633ca4fa>>*
>>> 
>>> (Of course, there is also a seminar being offered, but that’s not the main 
>>> point. To me, already this free webinar was very useful for my 
>>> understanding of what goes on in our bodies during different kinds of 
>>> conversation. Those that have us tense up & shut down and those that build 
>>> trust & make us more creative. It also had me understand why people may 
>>> need time (a full day!) to move from one state to another, just because of 
>>> the hormonal impact. Another reason for longer OST meetings...)
>>> 
>>> To trust and collaboration!
>>> Marai
>>> 
>>> https://about.me/maraikiele
>>> 
>>> <01.tiff>
>>> 
>>> <07 nurturing - depleting.tiff>
>>> 
>>> <15.tiff>
>>> 
>>> <24.tiff>
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Re: [OSList] Leverage the power of NEUROSCIENCE to create impactful conversations that change the world

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Hi colleagues,
This must have been a technical glitch of some kind.
I already send the email a while ago, now it came through a second time, but 
without me involved.
Marai

> Am 08.03.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> If any of you are interested in the neuroscience of conversations, there is 
> something which might be for you. A free webinar on CIQ = Conversational 
> Intelligence, by Judith Glaser.
> When it was first offered in 2016, I learned so much that I listened to it 
> twice. During the replay I took many screen shots. Am attaching some of them 
> to give you a taste.
> 
> Free webinars are screening from March 20th on. You can check it out here: 
> https:/coach.wbecs.com/ciq-2018/a173728 
> <https://modernmethods.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/70778/1c90f3da74a145bf/17962150/c0aae96c633ca4fa>
>  
> (Of course, there is also a seminar being offered, but that’s not the main 
> point. To me, already this free webinar was very useful for my understanding 
> of what goes on in our bodies during different kinds of conversation. Those 
> that have us tense up & shut down and those that build trust & make us more 
> creative. It also had me understand why people may need time (a full day!) to 
> move from one state to another, just because of the hormonal impact. Another 
> reason for longer OST meetings...)
> 
> To trust and collaboration!
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele <https://about.me/maraikiele>
> 
> <01.tiff>
> 
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[OSList] OST and what makes team work successful

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear colleagues,

Do you know what the core is, of what has drawn you to OST?

Last year I came across a word that describes both, a phenomena I have 
experienced and cherished in OST as well as something that has turned out to be 
a key ingredient to successful teams:

Psychological Safety

The term was coined by Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and 
Management, Harvard Business School.

It is referred to in a study by Google, which they undertook to understand what 
distinguishes their successful teams from those who do so-so.
Anyone interested in the subject… more here by Google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZlSq_Hf08M

"Psychological Safety" means team members are safe to take risk and be 
vulnerable in front of others. They know it’s okay or even requested to speak 
up, disagree, admit mistakes, ask „stupid“ questions or share a crazy idea. All 
of this without the fear of loosing „belonging“ or lessen one's status within a 
group.

In the study this has proven to be by far the most important ingredient for 
successful team work, even more important than dependability, meaning, impact…

Years back, I found this beautifully described in other words by Tova Averbuch, 
in her TEDx talk „Opening Space to Collective Wisdom“ (hello Tova! :-) ) 
She opens with the words „To be or to belong“—a tension that I know very well: 
Being fully myself or belonging to a group seemed often in conflict. Especially 
during my time in the corporate world as a product manager. Tova describes how 
in OST she has found both together: „being AND belonging". As I have, too.

Back to my opening question: Do you know what the core is, of what has drawn 
you to OST?

I have realised that the phrase „psychological safety“ describes that. That 
which is at the core of what has drawn me to OST. Something I am dedicated to 
since years. For myself and in creating spaces for others.

I am eager to explore this topic with others, both on this list as in real time 
conversations. I’ll post a session in tomorrows „Tuesday Open Space Hotline“. 
Anyone else interested in this topic, please come to the OS Hotline OR write on 
this list OR reach out to me directly.

From a sunny and cold evening in Bielefeld, Germany,
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele 


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[OSList] Hot meeting at the Open Space Hotline

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear colleagues,

What a delightful and creative conversation we had earlier at the Tuesday OS 
Hotline!
I am glad I went (for the first time, will go again for sure :-) )

Six people, open-minded and open-hearted sharing. Loved it!

One of the topics we explored was - again - the question: 

"What kind of world-wide gathering about the practice of opening space would 
each of us be eager to travel to?“

.
.
.

(playful pause to allow for whatever you may guess as possible answers...)

.
.
.

My dream meeting has to do with outside the box thinking and playfully evolving 
my/our approach to OST and how I/we can share it.
I’d love to make it almost irresistible! (to my ideal clients)

Some others from todays meeting may also share what they took away?!

Oh, to my fellow co-creators from today, and to anyone who cares to read 
further:

A fascinating thing happened. A newsletter popped into my inbox, which spoke 
exactly to aspects of what we explored together. When I looked at the arrival 
time, I saw with amazement: 
It was 10 minutes before we ended our conversation. Like a universal 
contribution to our conversation...

"We humans have a tendency to create systems intended at one time to serve us, 
then forget we created them and take them to be reality. This is of course easy 
to do with many systems that were created long before we arrived, like our 
system of language for instance."

See the rest of this short article: 
https://facilitatoru.com/spirituality/misbegotten-systems/

Best wishes from Germany,
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele 


> Am 20.02.2018 um 15:42 schrieb Tricia Chirumbole via OSList 
> :
> 
> Happy Tuesday everyone!
> 
> The Open Space Hotline is coming to a device near you soon - TODAY,
> Tuesday,February 20th @12PM EST for whomever wants to drop in and listen,
> share a thought, ask a question,workshop an idea or just say hi!
> 
> Expect the unexpected :)
> 
> One+ hours of video conversation with amazing folks from around the world
> - Law of Two Feet applies as always!
> 
> Sign-up and post topics: http://bit.ly/OShotline
> 
> Join the call from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/751609912
> a.  Join by phone: +1 (415) 762-9988 or +1 (646) 568-7788 (US Toll)
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> c.  Meeting ID: 751 609 912
> 
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Re: [OSList] Seeking sample invitations plus any advice

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Susan,

Adding the inner game before looking at what to do:

Your question had me wonder if inside your teams heads is a distinction between 
„us“ = the non-conservatives and „them“ = the conservatives?

I once worked with a client (larger business company) where I came up against 
my own mind creating „me“ and „them“ again and again.

Whenever I write something with the expectation of it not being well received 
or even judged by others, I get into protection mode. 
Than my words aren’t as inviting as I might want them to be. Instead they turn 
into "proving my point" or trying to „make the other“ act in a certain way. 

My way through with that client was sitting in meditation before any 
interaction with them. I first connected with myself and then bigger intention 
of my work. I sensed into my energy field and the separation that I had 
created, and then expanded it such that I was including them and creating „us“. 
From that place I was relaxed and connected with them. Then the right words 
came easily.

Also, are there any „conservatives“ participating in the planning of the 
meeting? We know that OST works especially well when all stakeholder parties 
are involved in preparing the meeting.
Is there anyone your team knows who might identify as conservative and would be 
willing to contribute?

Best, Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele 
http://genuinecontact.net/members/marai-kiele/ 



> Am 04.03.2018 um 00:52 schrieb doug via OSList 
> :
> 
> Susan--
> 
> First, I question that open space will be a hard sell for conservatives. 
> Include something in your invitation that speaks to them. "Do you feel that 
> 'politically correct' excludes you?," "What happened to merit and a full 
> day's work?," "When your do-gooding conflicts with my truth," or something 
> similar.
> 
> Also, I see you have 11 pictures of people on your Web page. I don't see any 
> pictures of people who look like conservatives to me. How about an old white 
> farmer, or a blue collar pipe fitter? Who do the reporters interview when 
> they want a person on the street who is conservative?
> 
> :- Doug. Germann
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2018 08:27 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:
>> Don’t try to “sell” them on anything. Just make it straight. What’s it all 
>> about? They will come if they care. Conservatives are human beings too.
>> ho
>> Winter Address
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>> Potomac, MD 20854
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>> Websites
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>> www.ho-image.com
>> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Susan Partnow via OSList
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:03 PM
>> *To:* OSList@lists.openspacetech.org
>> *Cc:* Susan Partnow; Steve Olweean
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Seeking sample invitations plus any advice
>> Hello dear OSers
>> I am helping to facilitate an Open Space in Madison, WI (April 13 to 15) - 
>> at a conference, "Engaging the Other 
>> ." We are hoping to attract 
>> participants from different political backgrounds - and recognize that Open 
>> Space may be a hard sell with conservatives.  I am wondering if any of you 
>> have a sample invitation that helps explain and attract people from diverse 
>> backgrounds.  Thanks!
>> PS  If you are in the Madison area and would like to volunteer to help out - 
>> let me know!
>> Susan Partnow
>> Sr. Certified Facilitator, Compassionate Listening
>> Founding Director, Global Citizen Journey
>> Co Founder, Seattle Restorative Justice
>> 4425 Baker Ave NW
>> Seattle, WA 98107
>> tel. 206-310-1203  (use this for WhatsApp with +1)
>> fax 206-782-7786
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>> https://www.facebook.com/globalcitizenjourney/
>> www.susanpartnow.com   Partnow Communications, 
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Re: [OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ?

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

> We might have a theme around building / discovering a V2.0 OST
> 
> --Tom Brown
> tgb...@gmail.com <mailto:tgb...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:33 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
> <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> Are you interested in fresh thinking regarding OST?
> Are you interested in making it better?
> 
> I recently participated in the WOSonOS planning meeting and ever since I’ve 
> been wondering: 
> What could make me eager to go to Iceland?
> 
> Right now, I am not eager. Yet. 
> 
> I have already been to three WOSonOS (2003 in Svenmark, 2005 in Canada, 2010 
> in Berlin) and several OSonOS. 
> I don’t need another OST just to share some practices, experiences, stories.
> Just to see old friends (while I love meeting old friends!). Just to make new 
> friends (while I love making new friends!).
> 
> But none of this evokes the desire to go to Iceland for WOSonOS from me.
> How about you? 
> 
> So I’ve been contemplating: 
> What would I need to happen there, so that I create the money and time to go? 
> What would need to have evolved, so that afterwards I will celebrate having 
> been there?
> 
> Today I listened to a podcast by Seth Godin, who I appreciate for his honest 
> and brilliant approach to marketing.
> Regarding the grandest possible vision for OST I invite you to listen to 1 
> minute:
> 
> http://hear.sethpodcast.com/?_branch_match_id=353283807642880233 
> <http://hear.sethpodcast.com/?_branch_match_id=353283807642880233>
> 
> Stopp what is playing automatically 
> Scroll down to the episodes and start „The Grand Opening"
> Listen to 10:57 - 11:58
> 
> Please take 1,5 minutes, listen first, than continue reading. Thank you.
> 
> *
> 
> So referring to what he shared and applying it to OST:
> 
> Can OST actually be made better?
> I know there is a strong perspective of every change = making it worse.
> I once thought that way. Not anymore.
> 
> What if there actually were many things to make it better? 
> Be it in the format, the marketing, how it is integrated into business…
> 
> So that we relax and trust that… slowly and naturally… some day soon… 
> everyone is going to know about it?
> 
> And what could this year's WOSonOS have to do with it?
> 
> Just wondering…
> 
> Any thoughts, feelings, further questions?
> 
> PS - some of you may remember me:
> I am located in Germany, back on this list after many years of absence. I was 
> pretty active in this community starting in 2003… Left several years ago. 
> One: I wasn’t learning as intensely as before and had a sense that the space 
> for fresh thinking was closing. 
> Two: Other topics captured my passion, including the Genuine Contact approach 
> - which integrates OST and made it better ;-) - so I believe...
> 
> With curiosity to explore together, 
> Marai
> 
> https://about.me/maraikiele <https://about.me/maraikiele>
> http://genuinecontact.net/members/marai-kiele/ 
> <http://genuinecontact.net/members/marai-kiele/>
> 
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[OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ?

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Dear colleagues,

Are you interested in fresh thinking regarding OST?
Are you interested in making it better?

I recently participated in the WOSonOS planning meeting and ever since I’ve 
been wondering: 
What could make me eager to go to Iceland?

Right now, I am not eager. Yet. 

I have already been to three WOSonOS (2003 in Svenmark, 2005 in Canada, 2010 in 
Berlin) and several OSonOS. 
I don’t need another OST just to share some practices, experiences, stories.
Just to see old friends (while I love meeting old friends!). Just to make new 
friends (while I love making new friends!).

But none of this evokes the desire to go to Iceland for WOSonOS from me.
How about you? 

So I’ve been contemplating: 
What would I need to happen there, so that I create the money and time to go? 
What would need to have evolved, so that afterwards I will celebrate having 
been there?

Today I listened to a podcast by Seth Godin, who I appreciate for his honest 
and brilliant approach to marketing.
Regarding the grandest possible vision for OST I invite you to listen to 1 
minute:

http://hear.sethpodcast.com/?_branch_match_id=353283807642880233

Stopp what is playing automatically 
Scroll down to the episodes and start „The Grand Opening"
Listen to 10:57 - 11:58

Please take 1,5 minutes, listen first, than continue reading. Thank you.

*

So referring to what he shared and applying it to OST:

Can OST actually be made better?
I know there is a strong perspective of every change = making it worse.
I once thought that way. Not anymore.

What if there actually were many things to make it better? 
Be it in the format, the marketing, how it is integrated into business…

So that we relax and trust that… slowly and naturally… some day soon… everyone 
is going to know about it?

And what could this year's WOSonOS have to do with it?

Just wondering…

Any thoughts, feelings, further questions?

PS - some of you may remember me:
I am located in Germany, back on this list after many years of absence. I was 
pretty active in this community starting in 2003… Left several years ago. 
One: I wasn’t learning as intensely as before and had a sense that the space 
for fresh thinking was closing. 
Two: Other topics captured my passion, including the Genuine Contact approach - 
which integrates OST and made it better ;-) - so I believe...

With curiosity to explore together, 
Marai

https://about.me/maraikiele
http://genuinecontact.net/members/marai-kiele/


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