Thank you, Amanda,

I appreciate you for sharing your distinction.
Not too much information. Thank you :)

Marai


> Am 02.08.2019 um 15:50 schrieb Amanda Bucklow <[email protected]>:
> 
> Dear Marai
> 
> I make the distinction between Certified (in the US sense) and Accredited as 
> follows:
> 
> Certified would be 
> 1. State sponsored with legal status as in a certified accountant. In the UK 
> in order to produce statutory accounts for the Inland Revenue you need to be 
> ‘certified’ by a recognised body. The most common is Chartered Accountant 
> which is the status conferred by the Privy Council and 
> 2. there is a system of regulation which deals with disciplinary action the 
> outcome of which is legal binding. This means your ‘licence’ to practice, and 
> therefore you ability to earn your living, may be revoked or restricted in 
> some way.
> 
> Accredited would be
> 1. Trained by an organisation holding themselves out as qualified to train 
> but not independently verified as competent to do so
> 2. A much shorter training, possibly non-standard and subject to the 
> perceptions of the market as to quality, and
> 3. either no regulation or very light-touch regulation by a membership body, 
> for example.
> 
> The first invites the public to have confidence in the ‘certification’ and to 
> rely on it. The second requires the consumer to make a judgment supported by 
> more thorough research or recommendation.
> 
> I do hope that is not too much information :-)
> 
> kind regards
> Amanda
> 
>> On 2 Aug 2019, at 12:36, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Amanda, 
>> 
>> Could you help me understand what for you the difference is between a 
>> certification (in the US sense) and an accreditation?
>> 
>> I know there is a cultural difference (years ago I learned from a British 
>> colleague that in the UK „certified“ means ‘certified insane’ as you are 
>> saying). 
>> 
>> So you use the word „accredited“. I believe in the US they use „certified“ 
>> for that very situation. True?
>> (by the way here is a non-native English speaker from Germany asking).
>> 
>> And I like your quote with your three distinctions.
>> 
>> Marai
>> 
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>>> Am 02.08.2019 um 12:25 schrieb Facilit8 via OSList 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>> 
>>> Dear Mark
>>> 
>>> For me there is only one case for certification and that is ‘certified 
>>> insane’. The rest is an illusion of certainty which is the very antithesis 
>>> of Open Space at least as I experience it.
>>> 
>>> I appreciate your enthusiasm for the business opportunity and for 
>>> practitioners. I have found that the OSList and the wonderful discussions, 
>>> which are both challenging and respectful, to be the very best professional 
>>> development and better than any ‘regulation’ I have experienced in any 
>>> profession bar none. Wise folks here share and repeat the simplicity of 
>>> what we do in service of others.
>>> 
>>> As I say to my student mediators: “your training means you understand the 
>>> goals and theory and your accreditation means I think you are a safe pair 
>>> of hands. Now, you turn up, pay attention and ‘be’ a mediator. There is no 
>>> certificate for that.”
>>> 
>>> Greetings and warm wishes from a lovely sunny Hove (south coast England)
>>> 
>>> Amanda
>>> 
>>> Amanda Bucklow
>>> Independent Commercial Mediator
>>> Https://amandabucklow.co.uk <https://amandabucklow.co.uk/>
>>> 07976 924995
>>> 
>>> On 1 Aug 2019, at 20:35, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear World Wide Open Space Technologists,
>>>> 
>>>> ALL we have to do ONLY requires a collective DECISION.  
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the question:  Are you IN or out?
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Carmel
>>>> Wannabe Certified OST
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