Re: [OSList] Wosonos 2022_ Bilbao/Basque Country_starting the 28th of September.... Plan on the pandemic to surge at this time?

[Tonnie Van Der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Gentza,

I will be happy to join the WOSONOS in Bilbao. We will see what will happen, it 
will be the only thing that could have anyway, so please keep the planning 
going. Looking forward to see you all end of September. 

Happy New Year!

Tonnie

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM
i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl
www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl 
06 50 69 79 82


> Op 29 dec. 2021 om 21:16 heeft Gentza Eleder via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Thanks so much, Mark, for your input,
> I find that the more conflictive the situation,
> the more Open Space is needed and welcome,
> and lately and sadly,
> we are having less and less Open Space by here,
> and more and more "closed space".
> 
> We passed 2 years without the grand possibility for the "gathering of the 
> worlwide OS tribe"
> (I briefed this way last day to a colleague who never attended a Wosonos, 
> what it was for me ).
> I've attended Wosonos three times and it's so rewarding in so many aspects,
> that I think now is the perfect time for preparing for the next Wosonos!
> Even with all the added difficulties since 2020.
> 
> If, as I would think, by the end of summer 22 the situation is relaxed and 
> people can travel with fewer trouble than now, it'is the perfect time for 
> Wosonos. 
> So we have in mind now to have Wosonos in Bilbao from 2022-09-28 to to 
> 2022-10-01.  (We are preparing a message with specific information to be sent 
> in some weeks.)
> If, as you predict. Mark, we are so restricted in these dates, Wosonos will 
> be, for the ones who gather, even more rewarding! We'll see!
> So, we are hopeful (and crazy?) enough to go ahead full of wonder! 
> And full of the best of our focus, energy and love, 
> knowing that, bigger or smaller, this will be gorgeous 
> for humanity and all the life on Earth.
> 
> Anyway, I have listened to lots of predictions. Some of them become real. 
> Most of them fail. 
> Life is, fortunately, so complex and unpredictable! 
> I tend to specially pay attention to the predictions that make me feel 
> better, 
> so I'll think that most people will have it easy enough to gather in Bilbao 
> around the 28th of September 2022 ;-)!
> 
> All you wonderful peacemakers, cross tyour fingers, 
> and feel the joy we feel now 
> starting this adventure. 
> 
> We'll have good wine, 
> and plenty of salt and hot water ;-)!
> 
> Gora Gigi Mundiala! = Hurray Gigi Mundiala (Basque name we made up last day 
> for Wosonos), hurray!
> 
> Thanks again, Mark, and best wishes for all!
> 
> Gentza Eleder Aurtenetxe Pildain
> (+0034) 638.733.223
> 
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> Em quarta-feira, 29 de dezembro de 2021 às 17:36, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>  escreveu:
>> 
>> Thank you so kindly for your warm invitation.
>> 
>> I predict the pandemic will be exploding next fall because it is a critical 
>> election year in America. The pandemic again will be used To drive the 
>> election outcome by locking down society and forcing everyone to vote by 
>> mail. Respectfully submitted I do not recommend that anyone lose money on 
>> nonrefundable deposits.. One variant after another to another with massive 
>> hysteria. What we have seen so far is simply a test. The real plan will play 
>> out in 2022 and even more so in 2024. Hold on for a long and bumpy ride my 
>> friends. This thing is not over, for as we say at the end of an Open Space, 
>> it has only just begun. The virus can be killed with simple table salt. If 
>> you feel a cold coming on, gargle with hot salt water and flush your nose 
>> with a saline rinse and you will knock it out quick ... of course our 
>> medical geniuses would never tell you this because there is a lot of Power 
>> to politicians in keeping the pandemic going ... I pray I am wrong. But my 
>> 42 years as front row witness to political hanky panky tells me otherwise. 
>> Peace to all you wonderful Peacemakers. Thanks again,
>> MC
>> 
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Re: [OSList] Test...

[Tonnie Van Der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Michael, 
Thanks for reminding me of thinking in ripples. You never know when they touch 
something, but sooner or later some of them will. 
In the Netherlands we had elections in March, and there is still no government 
formed. Every combination of parties seems problematic. As if we don’t have any 
important decisions to make nowedays? Or maybe problems are too big? 

All my best, 
Tonnie

Van der Zouwen Organisatieadvies
Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM
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> Op 28 okt. 2021 om 10:24 heeft Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Dear Tonnie,
> 
> having firefighters in an open space event spreads like wildfire... similar 
> to os events in schools (of course, with parents and neighborhood), or in 
> church parishes where you have folks from all walks of life, or, of course, 
> in neighborhoods. Its those events that create strong ripples across all 
> subsystems... and kept me busy.
> 
> Greetings from Berlin where I see complicated excursions with hundreds of 
> people over weeks to get a new government... it would surprise me, if any of 
> them ever were in an os event. One classical os event, meaning the whole 
> enchilada, would get them done in 10 percent of the time... now they are 
> planning to get done by Xmas, hmmm!
> 
> mmp
> Am 28.10.2021 um 08:57 schrieb info via OSList:
> > Thanks Chris and others for bringing PNI to this list. It fits perfectly
> > in two training programs on collaborative action research I am
> > providing. I have ordered the book by Cynthia. WHat I have read on her
> > website already gives me more words and pictures to working with stories
> > such as in Story Bridge. I will start next week with two PNI sessions.
> >
> > By the way, two weeks ago I had the honour to facilitate a one-day Open
> > Space on the tasks and organisation of the Dutch Fire Brigade. A
> > planning day after a one-day Future Search with about 70 participants,
> > where we collected trends and image of the future in 2030.
> >
> > What surprised me that olmost no one had even heard of Open Space. And
> > they were surprised how well it worked and how easily new relationships
> > were built. So, we have more work to do in the Netherlands.
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Tonnie van der Zouwen
> >
> >
> > Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
> >
> >
> >  Oorspronkelijk bericht 
> > Van: Chris Corrigan via OSList 
> > Datum: 27-10-2021 22:56 (GMT+00:00)
> > Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > 
> > Cc: Chris Corrigan 
> > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Test...
> >
> > More on Participatory Narrative Inquiry here:
> > https://www.workingwithstories.org/aboutpni.html
> > 
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 2:05 PM john watkins via OSList
> > mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Lovely! I can use this format next week with a group of middle
> > school students who are doing a fishbowl (virtually) with our senior
> > leadership teams from across North America. They can model it for
> > the districts, who can take it back and use if with their
> > participatory narrative “street data” processes. Thanks!
> >
> > John Watkins
> >
> >> On Oct 27, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> A blog by Chris about PNI is below. In the example, an animating
> >> theme is
> >> "how to get a bunch of perspectives from throughout a company on a
> >> new phase in a company’s evolution."
> >>
> >> And the questions he suggests for participants on a Google form:
> >> "share a story of something that happened lately that made you
> >> think: ‘we need to address this issue…'” Get everyone in the
> >> organization to enter one story, a few sentences. On the form then
> >> ask them a) how common do you think this is in our organization
> >> and b) what is one thing we could do to address that issue?"
> >>
> >> As you see it's a way to harvest stories than can inform a next
> >> conversation about the past-present-future. (In open space?)
> >>
> >> Something like this could be adapted for a basic inquiry of our OS
> >> community of practice. If there is a lively theme to propose!
> >>
> >> https://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/very-basic-story-gathering/
> >> 
> >>
> >> - Jeff
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 12:58 PM Harrison Owen SR via OSList
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OS in Schools is wonderful. Even a long time ago (25 YEARS?) A
> >> school up in Seattle basically bookended its year. Opened with
> >> 2 days on the question "what are we going to do?" and closed
> >> with 2 days - "what have we done?" Everybody came -- students,
> >> 

Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom Times - a report of our time together

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear all, 

 

Thanks for the beautiful report, I feel sorry I wasn’t there. Learned a lot 
from the notes and loved the story from Chris about opening space for Spirit. 

 

Stay safe and enjoy life, 

 

Tonnie 

 

Van: OSList  Namens Thomas Herrmann via 
OSList
Verzonden: woensdag 20 januari 2021 20:11
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CC: Thomas Herrmann 
Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom Times - a report of our time together

 

Thanks again Romy

It was so good to meet all of you folks in this meeting looking forward to the 
weekend for sure!

Thomas

 

Hämta Outlook för iOS  

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Från: OSList mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> > för Romy Shovelton via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >
Skickat: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 3:29:43 PM
Till: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >
Kopia: Romy Shovelton mailto:romy.shovel...@gmail.com> >
Ämne: Re: [OSList] Open Space in Zoom Times - a report of our time together 

 

PS…for anyone who was with us in the Open Space on Zoom Times, please feel free 
to edit the Report doc, if there is anything at all that I missed…. or 
miss-wrote ! 

 

See you this weekend as Harrison, Karen and others, Open Space for Peace & High 
Performance, with the powerful theme of 


“How do we engage 8 billion people in meaningful conversation?”


https://osius.org/peace-high-performance-2021 

 

 

with a giant open smile….

 

Romy

 

PS trusting that Storm Christophe hasn’t blown away or flooded too many of us ! 
Here, the sound of our streams rushing by is quite phenomenal. 

 

 

Romy Shovelton

 





On 20 Jan 2021, at 14:22, Romy Shovelton mailto:romy.shovel...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Open Spacers…..  

 

30 of us gathered in Open Space, on zoom, on Monday (18th) to address the 
question “How can we open space brilliantly in zoom times?”

 

Here is a report of our time together 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NjGHU2Djiog1V8JKIwfFh3g0kGCFnI-_uLvEyZn8ptI/edit#
 

 

 

EnJOY !!

 

with deep thanks and in awe once again at what this community brings to our 
world…..

 



 

Romy

 

 

 

Romy Shovelton

romy.shovel...@gmail.com  

 

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[OSList] FW: Looking for "butterfly" ideas

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

This also works well using Microsoft Teams. We prepare a ‘ticket’, just as 
when you register for a festival, with a link to a Teams meeting in the main 
room and a link for a meeting in every  breakout room. The main room also 
serves as butterfly space during sessions. We send the ticket to all 
participants in advance, with some simple directions for how to use them, and 
also put the ticket with all links in the chat of the main room and on a 
digital wall, e.g. Stormboard. This wall can also be used for displaying 
posters with the rules and law of two feet, for agenda setting and as News wall 
with all the reports. A wall with unlimited size. Thing is that all 
participants have to make an account to be able to work on this wall. Just 
invite them to do this before the meeting.

 

Using two screens allows for seeing the session and working on the wall. If you 
have only one screen: use ‘split windows’, and you get the same effect, only a 
bit smaller.

 

Tip: When you make an account on stormboard.com, select ‘account for 
education’. Otherwise you have to pay something like 8 dollars per month per 
participant of a board. An account for education is free (I think until June 
2021).

 

You only need 1 acount for Teams and participants can walk in and out breakout 
rooms Since using Zoom is not allowed in many organizations, this is a good 
solution. Only disadvantage is that you can see only 9 people at the same time. 
For most subsessions this will be enough though, and it is also less tiring not 
seeing 100 faces or more on a screen in the main room. Walking the circle is 
still possible, by passing the mic to every participant on the list, or by 
asking to raise hands for the mic.

 

 

Tonnie van der Zouwen

i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl  

Www.tonnievanderzouwen.com   

 

 





Op 11 sep. 2020 om 02:40 heeft Daniel Mezick via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > het 
volgende geschreven:

 Mark Sheffield and I simply make 1 link per room, people click that link to 
go to the next room. You need 10 accounts if you have 10 rooms since Zoom 
accounts only allow 1 meeting at a time. 

Everyone has Zoom accounts and if they are attending YOUR event they will not 
be using their account then, so you can borrow it from then. 

 

Worst case, you spend $14.95 X  10 for 10 "rooms", 1 per account.

 

 

The open source doc here explains that approach: full-on Open Space under Zoom: 
with ability to move about

 

Here it is: scroll to the bottom

https://openleadershipnetwork.com/onprogress/

 

 

 





On Sep 10, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Patrick Schley via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > wrote:

 

In larger Zoom OST sessions where you can’t make everyone a co-host, we have 
asked people to add the room number they want to go to at the front of their 
Zoom name. We have one or two “Zoom pilots” who scan the participant list and 
make breakout room assignments once the marketplace opens. Then to move between 
rooms you just have to come back to the main room and ask one of the pilots to 
switch you. It seems to work pretty well.

 

-p.

 

 


 



 

Patrick Schley

Support Escalation Specialist

  Tessitura Network

+1 888 643 5778 x 486 office

+1 888 643 5778 x 201 customer care

  psch...@tessituranetwork.com

pronouns: he/him

 

 

 

 How Tessitura can help you manage your COVID-19 response >

 

 

From: OSList mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> > On Behalf Of Eric M. Kapono 
via OSList
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:44 PM
To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >
Cc: Eric M. Kapono mailto:kap...@advancementservices.org> >
Subject: Re: [OSList] Looking for "butterfly" ideas

 

Another alternative I learned (probably from the great DC Liberating Structures 
  group) is in Zoom making everyone a Host.

 

This gives everyone the ability to move between breakouts. It is a little 
tedious because the original Host must go through the Participant list and 
one-by-one make each person a Host, but if your partner is Opening Circle, then 
you can do this in the background. When sessions are posted, folks then select 
the appropriate breakout to join (just like a Host). To use their two feet, 
they leave the breakout room, end up in the main room, then butterfly or bumble 
bee. The caveat here is to not select “Leave Meeting” because you’ll be taken 
out of Zoom have to click back in; just click “Leave Room”. I’ve only tried it 
this one time and it seemed to work well. First-time Zoom users would need some 
instructions.

 

Best,

~Eric

 

From: OSList mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> > On Behalf Of Daniel Mezick 
via OSList

Re: [OSList] Host your first online open space for free (up to 200 participants)

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Lucas, hi all, 

 

Lucas, thanks for your great offer! As soon as I have a client I will let you 
know. 

 

Is there any news about an online WOSonOS 2020, did I miss something? I would 
like to invite a bunch of students, for several reasons. Providing them a great 
experience with the network and OST, and also content wise to share their 
experiences and ideas regarding self-organising. As I noticed in the WOSonOS in 
Iceland, having young people in the meeting is priceless. 

 

Warmly, 

 

Tonnie 

 

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM 

Professor Sustainable Working & Organising

 

Center of Expertise Sustainable Business

Avans University of Applied Sciences | +31 6 10 13 70 18 |  
a.vanderzou...@avans.nl| www.avans.nl| www.esbimpact.org

 

 

 

Van: OSList  Namens Lucas Cioffi via 
OSList
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 08:36
Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list 

CC: Lucas Cioffi 
Onderwerp: [OSList] Host your first online open space for free (up to 200 
participants)

 

Hi All,

 

The world sure needs a little OS right now.

 

Many OS facilitators haven't had the chance to facilitate one online yet.  Here 
are two of the first barriers you face:

1) you need a client that wants online OS, and

2) you need to get comfortable using the tech

 

As we know with in-person OS, the best way to learn it is to try it.  Let's see 
if we can help people on this list overcome the two barriers listed above.

 

Overcoming the Lack of a Client

First, I'd like to provide free use of Qiqo for any on the OS List who wants to 
host their first OS online, up to 200 participants in a 1-day OS.  With the 
platform being free, then there's less of a need to get a client to pay -- the 
only remaining cost is your time.  Maybe participants will donate, maybe you 
can charge a fee, or maybe it's worth it to you to bring OS to an organization 
that needs it but cannot afford to pay.  This is an opportunity to do that.  If 
you run this first one well, then your participants might become your next 
clients.

 

Overcoming the Learning Curve

Fortunately, you do not need to learn the tech on your own.  If enough folks on 
this list are interested, we'll form groups of 3-4 facilitators who can meet 
once per week for an hour to share their progress and to provide constructive 
suggestions to each other.  I will be available for free trainings and open 
office hours each week here  .

 

Who is this for?

This offer applies to anyone who has not yet hosted an online open space event 
on Qiqo.  If interested, please send me an email before September 1st.  The 
event can happen any time in 2020.  You can do this as a free event or you can 
earn money from it -- that's 100% up to you.

 

I'm sharing this email with the OSList, NCDD, and the Liberating Structures 
Slack Community.




Lucas Cioffi

Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat.com  

Scarsdale, NY

917-528-1831

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Re: [OSList] Where is Lisa? Here she is.

[Tonnie Van Der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Lisa,
Just read your email Lisa. Greatful knowing you.
Big hug and much love from my little spot on the earth,
Tonnie

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> Op 14 jun. 2020 om 14:35 heeft Koos de Heer via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Dear Lisa,
>  
> Thank you so much for writing and sharing your situation and your insights. 
> Great to hear from you. Sorry to hear about your health and the passing of 
> the parents.
>  
> I will also send you a private mail.
>  
> Much love and good wishes to both of you,
>  
> Koos
>  
> From: OSList  On Behalf Of Lisa Heft 
> via OSList
> Sent: vrijdag 12 juni 2020 22:44
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> 
> Cc: Lisa Heft 
> Subject: [OSList] Where is Lisa? Here she is.
>  
> Hello, OSLIST friends -
>  
> I have not written anything here since 2016 - although I am still sitting in 
> the circle and listening in. 
> Some of you are dear friends from across the years (note my new email, by the 
> way). A few of you have mentioned that it might be nice if I wrote to the 
> list about how I am doing. 
>  
> This message is long, because a) I have not visited in awhile, b) I am having 
> a conversation with you here in my head over time, and c) in Open Space, even 
> a group of 1 can have a rich conversation for an entire session or longer - 
> and can then share their documentation of that exploration back to the rest 
> of the group in their Book of Proceedings. Of course you have a choice to 
> read it or delete it. 
>  
> Those of you who know me extra-well know that - since you have known me - I 
> have while working as a facilitator and educator also been very involved in 
> the care of elderly parents. What just a few of you know is that I have also 
> been living with a health condition called ME/CFS. That condition has 
> progressed. I am fortunate that I am still able to care for myself, although 
> here is one way to describe this particular invisible-to-others disability: I 
> have to rest in-between putting on my right shoe and my left shoe. But I can 
> still put on my shoes ;o)(and hey, who needs shoes in COVID quarantine??) 
>  To understand the impact of this health issue (for people who have it much 
> much worse than I do), perhaps your country offers access to a sobering yet 
> beautiful documentary called Unrest.  A few years ago I realized that true, 
> radical wellness meant that I must release even those things I love (love 
> love love facilitation and teaching about facilitation - love it). I did not 
> feel sad releasing my client work - I felt lighter. I still grieve not being 
> able to teach and facilitate, and in so many diverse settings, countries and 
> cultures. But I knew immediately that it was the right thing to do. Last year 
> my amazing father died, this year my amazing mother-in-law died, and after 
> two decades of parental care, now my wife and I have more time and energy to 
> care for our selves.  
>  
> Interestingly, I never thought of myself as disabled until recent years, 
> because I simply lived my life. However, since my parents raised me in a 
> richly-diverse world, I have always had a passion for seeing / imagining / 
> designing with a priority of and focus on access and inclusion. So here I am 
> in an embodied experience exploring things I always imagined might be someone 
> else's experience. Fascinating.
>  
> I write this next part simply to share my background, with those of you who 
> have not yet met me: I have facilitated for 40-something years. My interest 
> area is dialogic methods that scale up (only one facilitator needed for a 
> group of 5 or 3000+), that work across country and culture (without requiring 
> participants to learn someone else’s vocabulary; without working through the 
> facilitators’s own cultural filter), and in which participants frame their 
> own experience (rather than the facilitator doing so). When I say 'dialogic', 
> I mean those processes which engage participants in internal and external 
> dialogue (conversation with self, conversation with others). And when I say 
> conversation, I do not mean everyone has to speak aloud. Witnessing - fully 
> listening - is participation just as much as speaking. I use existing and 
> custom-designed processes which engage participants in silent reflection, 
> kinesthetic and graphic thinking, improv, role play, poetry creation, 
> movement, and (no surprise!) such methods as Open Space, World Cafe and 
> Focused Conversation Method. Here is another way of showing who I am (there 
> are so very many different ways of seeing / naming / showing one's self).  
>  
> And now I write this part to share what I feel so proud of - and because 
> writing this shows me back to myself, with you as witness to my "prouds". I 
> have much more life to live, but this is also a point of my life where I am 
> reflecting a bit. I am so proud of 

Re: [OSList] The 2020 Online World Open Space on Open Space - Planning Discussion

[Tonnie Van Der Zouwen via OSList]

Great initiative.
Happy to open My Zoom pro account too.

Tonnie

Van der Zouwen Consultancy
Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM
www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl
i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl
+316 50 69 79 82



> Op 1 jun. 2020 om 21:34 heeft Francois Knuchel via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Fantastic! Have added my Pro account to the list. François
>  
> From: OSList  On Behalf Of Marc C. 
> Trudeau via OSList
> Sent: 01 June 2020 19:26
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 
> 
> Cc: Marc C. Trudeau 
> Subject: Re: [OSList] The 2020 Online World Open Space on Open Space - 
> Planning Discussion
>  
>  
> My Pro account and I are in, as well, Lucas.
> 
> 
> Marc Trudeau
> mobile 774-641-8302
> 
> 
> 
> 
> LikeBreathin.com
> 
> 
> On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Bhavesh Patel via OSList 
>  wrote:
>  
> Ditto!!!
>  
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 09:34, Lise Damkjær via OSList 
>  wrote:
> I would like to participate as well - and I have a Zoom Pro account for this 
> as well.
> Lise, Copenhagen
>  
> Den 31-05-2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Phelim McDermott via OSList:
> I’d love to be able to support this Lucas. Will speak to Improbable 
> colleagues. 
>  
> Love 
>  
> Phelim x
>  
>  
>  
> On 31 May 2020, at 17:58, Lucas Cioffi via OSList 
>  wrote:
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> Four weeks ago we heard from our colleagues in Germany that unfortunately and 
> understandably the 2020 in-person gathering cannot happen this year (their 
> original message is at the bottom of this email).
>  
> Then Mark Carmel started a thread 12 days ago: "How about we have a global 
> OST facilitated by HHO with invites to all on this list serve?"
>  
> I propose that we can all participate in the planning process for an online 
> World Open Space on Open Space (WOSonOS) this year...
>  
> First we'll need a compelling invitation.  On this Google doc 
> 
>  you will find 10 empty spaces where anyone can write a rough draft of an 
> invitation.  You can also add comments to other people’s invitations in the 
> comment section for each invitation.  If you would prefer to not use Google 
> docs, please feel free to reply to this email with your draft invitation.
> Action Item: So if you find yourself sitting down for coffee one morning with 
> a clear mind and thinking about why it is important to bring OS facilitators 
> from across the world together at this moment, please share those thoughts as 
> an invitation on that page.
> Second we'll need a place to host the event.  If we get 25 (or more) people 
> to offer their Zoom accounts, then we can have 25 (or more) breakout spaces 
> for free.  We can use a tool I've built (QiqoChat) to make it easy for people 
> to jump between the Zoom meetings, but people can use Zoom directly if they 
> prefer.
> Action Item: Please add your name to the Google doc (link is above) if you 
> have a Zoom pro account and would like to share it for this online WOSonOS.  
> When should we do it?  I propose that once we complete the invitation, we 
> schedule it with three week's advance notice.
>  
> How much should it cost?  I propose that it should be free with a recommended 
> donation of $X to organizations near where you live (for example the Open 
> Space Institute  if you live in the US).  This way we can 
> use the event to build our network's capacity.
>  
> What do you think?  The thread is open...
>  
> Lucas Cioffi
> Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat.com 
> Scarsdale, NY
> 917-528-1831
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:12 PM Jo Toepfer via OSList 
> mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> 
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Dear OS Community worldwide!
> Whatever happens is the only thing that could have… We hereby inform you – 
> with regret, let’s say it ones before we look forward – that we decided to 
> stop the preparation of the WOSonOS 2020 planned to be held October 29 
> through 31, 2020.
> After a careful review of the current circumstances and the possible 
> developments of the COVID-19 pandemia we came to the conclusion that we can 
> not held the event as planned. At the moment it would be unrealistic to 
> conduct the event in a face-to-face format in fall 2020 here in Berlin. We as 
> the sponsor and all those who want to participate and would have to book 
> their trip in advance would be left with the cancellation costs.
> The alternative option to hold the WOSonOS as an online event instead is 
> clearly not our choice. For us this would be a different meeting than the one 
> we are entrusted with, and we have no passion to do it online.
> The ones who already registered, 43 participants from Iceland, France, 
> Canada, Netherlands, UK, Belgium, Sweden, US, Italy, Spain, Malaysia, 
> Switzerland and Germany, are already informed personally and their 
> participation fees will be fully refunded.
>  
> Next steps: We are currently checking 

Re: [OSList] Law of Mobility, reimiagined

[Tonnie Van Der Zouwen via OSList]

Great blog Chris, thanks Artur for Responding late, I missed the email from 
Chris before.
Best,
Tonnie

Van der Zouwen Organisatieadvies
Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM
www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl
06 50 69 79 82

> Op 5 apr. 2020 om 10:55 heeft Artur Silva via OSList 
>  het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> Sorry for the delay in answering, but I am late reading the OSLIST. 
> 
> Marvelous blog entry, Chris. 
> 
> Congratulations!
> 
> Artur
> 
> --
> 
> On Monday, March 16, 2020, 07:07:20 PM GMT, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all.  Just published a piece looking at COVID-19 and complexity.  One of 
> the heuristics I am using is a reimagination of the Law of Mobility:
> 
> “If you find yourself in a group of four or more people, go somewhere where 
> you aren’t.”
> 
> Good luck friends.
> 
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Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hear hear!


Thanks Harrison. 


Greetings from Tanzania (great place to be on holiday, talking about being 
natural) 


Tonnie




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On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:24 PM +0300, "Harrison Owen via OSList" 
 wrote:












Actually, I beg to differ. As one who has been in the Open Space game as long 
as anyone, I suppose – the whole possibility of certification (or whatever, by 
which ever name) is a) oxymoronic, b) technically dubious (I can’t imagine how 
you would actually do it), and strategically a bad play. Teaching/certifying 
Open Space is rather like certifying breathing … a natural activity which comes 
with our existence. It is true that some people learn to do it (breathing) 
better … Olympic Athletes for example … but it really is a natural act. Opening 
space is a natural act. Some do it better than others … but it is what we do. 
Creating a Certification program for enabling that boggles my mind. Right up 
there with creating a “certification program” for being “human.”  B) 
Technically dubious… Every situation is so contextually defined that any 
criteria for performance (certification) would be so limited as to be not 
useful. Translated that would mean something like – would Open Space 
Certification guarantee that the individual would work with equal effectiveness 
with Afghanis and North American White Supremacists? I doubt that, and more 
than that… it all seems to happen very naturally all by itself, has for a 
number of years … (with absolutely NO Program, OST is now a worldwide 
phenomenon). C) Strategically a bad play… Fact is, OST is the control oriented, 
certification aficionada, managers -- worst nightmare.  If it actually did what 
30+ years of global experience seems to demonstrate that it does… Much if not 
all of what currently is the “lode star” of managerial competence, “CONTROL” … 
Never happened. But we can’t let that secret out. Blow our cover! However, if 
you quietly open space wherever, whenever, however, about what ever… as often 
as you can – Magic does seem to happen. And the truth is ( my truth) is that 
anybody can do it. 

 

ho

 

From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of David 
Osborne via OSList
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:33 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Cc: David Osborne; Mark Carmel
Subject: Re: [OSList] Why CERTIFICATION makes sense considering this 
conversation on Mission, Vision Strategy Plans, etc.

 

Great thoughtful post Mark. Thanks for stimulating my thinking, reflection and 
imagination. 

 

David

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
 wrote:

Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a certification-like 
program and an organizational structure for the future if we want to train 
people in the finer points of sustaining open space interventions over time as 
Chris has done. There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an invitation 
and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that from the most 
seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly shot down, saying...we 
discussed that already... Now that is not what an open space facilitator 
normally does right? Shoot down other people's ideas. The world has evolved 
into one that respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who spoke the 
strongest against certification have already given themselves nice fancy 
titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials really do matter. Right now 
open space facilitators must give themself their own title and otherwise have 
no backing whatsoever to lend credibility to their self given titles. When you 
talk about overcoming the resistance of executives and with the retaliation 
nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it makes sense to put some 
structure to the educational credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice  to 
Master to mentor.  In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why 
is it that we facilitators want to apply that same organizational structure for 
ALL other organizations but resist doing the same for OUR work, to create OUR 
organization... What IS our vision...to hope the world magically organizes 
around OST... or to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In his 
great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is spot on to define OST as the ONE way 
for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.  We must not be naive to believe 
that leaders will not crush the Spirit once it emerges in Open Space. This 
requires highly advanced training to be able to navigate the process over 
decades of implementation.  ALL great decisions require great leadership. If 
OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be considered by its 
leaders or of course someone else will do it or it will not be done. In some 
ways, or all ways, Harrison has created a new religion of Spirit and I 

Re: [OSList] Who Opens the Space?

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Birgitt,


I agree, it is my choice to show up or use my two feet to go somewhere  else. 
Still, this seems to me a rather individualistic view. Some thoughts. Maybe 
participants open spaces for each other, inviting (or not) each other. I think 
it is a social process, weaving a complex web of relationships. The 
facilitator, the room set up  and the way participants are invited, before and 
during the meeting, are cruciual preconditions in nursing the development of 
that social web. And then be prepared to be surprised.




All the best,


Tonnie




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www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl


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On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 5:11 PM +0200, "Birgitt Williams via OSList" 
 wrote:










Dear friends and colleagues, "Who Opens the Space"
I believe that I open the space for myself. I show up. I make a conscious 
choice about how much space I choose to open for myself, for myself as a whole 
person to participate. Sometimes the space feels safer to me than other times. 
Regardless, it is my choice for me of how much space I open for myself in every 
situation, how much I choose to participate within that self created open 
space, and for how long I choose to keep the space for myself open.
I appreciate the effort and love of the facilitator of the Open Space 
Technology meeting. The role is important, assuming it is carried out with care 
and love and clarity, to make visible that a bigger space is open and ready for 
participation. This is a valuable role. Yet, it is still me, that opens the 
space for myself...no one can do this for me.
I appreciate the role of the sponsor is opening the space within the 
organization for a conscious opening of space for a particular theme to be 
explored. Sometimes the sponsor chooses to open a big space, sometimes it is a 
smaller space...Both are fine so long as there is honesty about the amount of 
space being opened. Yet, it is still me that opens the space for myself to 
consciously choose my participation.
Now, I am wondering about the importance of providing the people who attend the 
OST meeting with the concept that the amount of space that they are opening for 
themselves is their responsibility. Your thoughts?
in genuine contact,Birgitt

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Re: [OSList] Greetings from OST training in Gävle, Sweden

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Thomas, 

Thank you for sharing your meaningful practice. Looking forward to see you
again on de WOSonOs in Iceland. 

 

Tonnie

 

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM |Professor Sustainable Working and Organising
| Centre of Expertise Sustainable Business | Avans University of Applied
Sciences | +31 6 10 13 70 18 |Postbus 90.116 | 4800 RA Breda, Netherlands|
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Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas
Herrmann via OSList
Verzonden: maandag 24 september 2018 22:26
Aan: OSLIST ; 'GC list'
CC: Thomas Herrmann
Onderwerp: [OSList] Greetings from OST training in Gävle, Sweden

 

Dear friends in Open Space and Genuine Contact (X-posted to both lists)

Sending a greeting after the first day of three in our training Working with
Open Space Technology, here in Gävle Sweden. Very excited participants after
having learnt basics about OST, experienced an OSonOS and reflected on the
different roles in OST meetings. Before closing we also looked at the
components of an OST meeting and started to reflect on what components they
will include, because tomorrow they will have time to practice opening
space. We will then look at convergence, the essence, pre-work and follow-up
before we co-create the theme for the OST some of them will facilitate day
3. 

Looking forward and happy to have so many stories to share from what I
learnt with you all, not the least Harrison Owen. You are always present in
my trainings and so are you Birgitt Williams, as I am teaching OST the
Genuine Contact way. I am so happy to have stories to share that I heard and
picked up from you and others in the community of practitioners. Thank you!

Couldn’t think of anything more meaningful to do, right now.

Hugs dear friends, dear community

See you in Iceland!

 

Thomas Herrmann

Open Space Consulting AB

Pensévägen 4, 434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden

Telefon: +46 (0)709 98 97 81

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Company page on Facebook:  
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Join our upcoming workshops in 2018 & 2019!

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Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

And maybe my PhD research on success factors and effects of large scale 
interventions might be of help. See 
https://www.amazon.com/Building-evidence-based-practical-Interventions/dp/9059725034
 . For the large group merhods I included Open Space Technology.
Good luck with your research Karl.
tonniei...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl 


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Van: Peggy Holman via OSList  
Datum: 07-07-18  17:48  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: Open Listserv  
Cc: Peggy Holman  
Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space 

Chris mentioned his chapter in the Dialogic Organization Development book on 
containers. You might also find my chapter on complexity, self-organization and 
emergence in that same book of us. And if that path of inquiry is useful, check 
out Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity.
Peggy


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Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity




On Jul 7, 2018, at 8:08 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
 wrote:
Hi Karl - would you say more about your questions? What are the initial 
directions of your inquiry around a "conceptual basis" of opening holding and 
closing space?
And what do you mean by "self structuring of open space"?
And can you say a bit more about "pattern recognition as people participate in 
open space"
I wrote a PhD on open space using some unusual methodologies including Organic 
Inquiry (feminist heuristic phenomenology) and Indigenous Science.
I've also been involved in some of the conversations about researching Open 
Space over the years.
JeffSan Francisco




On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 4:37 AM Harrison Owen via OSList 
 wrote:
Karl – there is very little in the academic literature for reasons I’ve always 
found interesting and odd… but predictable. However, the International Press 
has covered it extensively and if you will accept a rather biased source, I 
have a number of books on the subject. 5 remain in print and are published by 
Berrett-Koehler. There are also a number of others, now out of print, but 
available online at www.openspaceworld.com along with s number of occasional 
papers.  You might find my first book, “Spirit: Transformation and Development 
in Organizations” interesting. It is not about Open Space per se but represents 
the basic framework out of which it grew. It is also the first time I used the 
words “open space.” Good luck – and I’d love to see where you go. Harrison 
Winter Address7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD 20854301-365-2093 Summer 
Address189 Beaucauire AveCamden, ME 04843207 763-3261 
Websiteswww.openspaceworld.comwww.ho-image.com From: OSList 
[mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Royle, Karl via 
OSList
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 8:57 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Cc: Royle, Karl
Subject: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space Dear Colleagues, I am 
in the process of writing a PHD by publication and have become interested in 
the conceptual basis of opening space/holding space and closing space. I am 
also interested in the concept of self structuring  of open space (contentious 
I know) and pattern recognition as people participate in open space. Does 
anyone know of any literature around these themes.. or equally, any thoughts? 
Just a thought. Many thanks in advance Karl  Karl RoyleHead of Enterprise and 
Commercial DevelopmentCertified Scrum Product Owner and Scrum MasterFaculty of 
Education Health and WellbeingUniversity of Wolverhampton 
0190232300607815416698@karlroyle. On TwitterKarlr61 Skype 
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Karl_Royle/contributions   From: 
OSList  on behalf of Anna Caroline Türk 
via OSList 
Reply-To: World wide Open Space Technology email list 

Date: Wednesday, 4 July 2018 at 09:58
To: OS international List 
Cc: Anna Caroline Türk 
Subject: Re: [OSList] Learning to work with OST Dear Thomas,  thank you for 
your dedication and creativity to explore open space. :) I am sure you have 
sooo many new stories to share about the essence and nature of open space!  I 
am really looking forward to experiencing your new level of thinking, being 
present and sharing new perspectives at our training Working with Open Space 
Technology in the Netherlands in September this year.  It’s always so much fun 
to “work” with Doris, you and our participants.  Doris and myself are also 
planning to come to Iceland to the WOSonOS and hope to meet many of our dear & 
crazy colleagues from around the world there! ;) I recently facilitated an Open 
Space Technology meeting at a school with 300 young people who discussed how to 
get involved and support migrants coming to Germany.Here you can see a little 
Video about the Open Space - in German (no subtitles). much Love all around! 
Anna 

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS 2018 Hope to meet you there

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Kari, dear colleagues OST facilitators, 

 

Thank you for organizing this event Kari. I will be there and bring in a team 
of 6 students,  a teacher and a dean of our University. Their question is how 
they can work with Open Space principles in their HR\ program at Avans 
University of Applied Sciences and develop new forms of leadership. I think 
they can learn a lot from you (and we from them, as I experienced last year at 
the COS Conference ‘What do you do when you don’t know what to do). So I hope 
to meet you all at the WOSonOS. 

 

Looking forward seeing you in October! 

 

Tonnie van der Zouwen 

 

 

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM |Professor Sustainable Working and Organising | 
Centre of Expertise Sustainable Business | Avans University of Applied Sciences 
| +31 6 10 13 70 18 |Postbus 90.116 | 4800 RA Breda, Netherlands|  
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Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Kári 
Gunnarsson via OSList
Verzonden: maandag 11 juni 2018 22:08
Aan: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
CC: Kári Gunnarsson
Onderwerp: [OSList] WOSonOS 2018 Registration

 

Dear OST-community,

 

WOSonOS 2018 Bridging the Divide: How are we meeting the challenges of a 
changing world?

 

Place & Date: Reykjvík Iceland, October 22-24

 

Please head over to the registration page to read more and sign up:  
 
https://events.artegis.com/event/WOSonOS_2018 

 

We reserved a few hotel rooms in a hotel nearby and these are available on the 
registration site, but many of us are renting an Airbnb or staying in other 
accommodations close by. 

 

Gamla-Bíó is our venue:   
https://goo.gl/maps/dDPdoV2jcZE2 ... The original plan was to have the event in 
Harpa, looking at the price led to the idea of moving the event to the close-by 
Gamla-Bíó. I am particularly happy that we manage to do that and lower the 
registration fee in the process. 

 

The local currency is ISK (Icelandic Króna), you will get about 105 ISK for 
each USD $ dollar, or about 125 ISK for each € Euro.

 

The flight time to here from New York is about 6 hours, and from London it is 
about 3 hours. Flights to Iceland are cheap.

 

With best regards,

The Wosonos 2018 Team

 

 

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Re: [OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ?

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear Marai and HO, dear all on this list,
Thank you for sharing your experiences and feelings so openly. Embarrasment 
seems to be fruitful somehow. 
I have listened to the podcast and an idea popped up. What about making a grand 
opening space song at the Wos on Os in Iceland? I will be there, and I am 
planning to bring some students and colleagues too. 
Hope to see you in Iceland in October. And now I am typing this on my mobile, I 
would like to invite you to a session to discuss how the principle  'Less is 
more', and other OS principles can be applied to our organizational life. Or to 
life in general? And to our education system, universities? The idea is not 
new, I know, but I keep forgetting. 
See you in Reykjavik,Tonnie van der Zouwen


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Van: Harrison Owen via OSList  
Datum: 01-03-18  18:00  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' 
 
Cc: Harrison Owen  
Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ? 

Improved Open Space! Marvelous idea!! And should you (or anybody else) succeed, 
I will be the first supporter and largest fan. I will warn you, however, that 
you will not be the first to make such an attempt. I think that might have been 
me. 

After I recovered from the two Martinis, and indeed three or four years after 
the first Open Space in Monterey California (1985), I recognized that something 
truly odd and wonderful was happening in that circle. Actually I was a slow 
learner, and it took the sharp eyes of people like Anne Stadler, Mahesh, and 
others to see what I couldn't see.

After a bit, there was something of a blinding flash of the obvious. What 
happened was not only unpredictable, but totally remarkable. At least we all 
thought it was pretty weird. And back in those days, weird was good. So how 
about More Weird? Better Weird? Or just better, and not so weird??

It was a pretty heady time. David Cooperrider was appreciating, Marv was 
searching the future, various people were in Quality Circles, and not far down 
the road was Process Re-engineering. Lots to play with, and many wonderful 
playmates -- not to exclude "Searching for Excellence" and "Future Shock!"

We did not do a lot of OS's -- at least by contemporary standards. But each was 
an experiment. Lots of folks suggested adding or changing a bit. My 
instantaneous response was "Try it." The experimentation was considerable -- 
but sometimes embarrassing... for me. For example.

A very large Canadian financial institution was doing a two day OS for the 
purposes of charting their future. 250 folks including the senior staff and 
rising stars. And -- to hedge their bet "the powers" contracted with a friend 
who did "creativity enhancement" for a day's work shop up front. They used 
drums and song...the day was gorgeous! Then we opened space. Massive, powerful, 
productive. 

When it was all over, "The Powers that Be" asked me what I thought. I had to 
bite my tongue. But the folks involved were quick to the point. To a person 
they say, "The Three days were gorgeous -- but why did we waste the first day?" 
Their words, my friend. I was embarrassed.

That has been my story ever since. Embarrassed. 

I had been taught, practiced, and been honored for all of the things that 
"modern management" was supposed to do. My training was usually informal 
(serious folks telling me how) but my positions were "recognized (check out 
whatever Who's Who)." Open Space Technology was/is the embarrassment of my 
life. Every single principle or practice that I "learned" was violated. I 
really had a hard time keeping a straight face talking to my friends/colleagues.

So to your question. If you want to learn how to "do" OST -- stay home. If you 
want some new trick of the trade -- don't go out the door.

HOWEVER -- in 30+ year of failure, I have learned one thing. Less is more. We 
already "know" how to do OS -- been doing it for 13.7 billion years. What we 
need to work on is putting to one side all that we think/taught works. Hard 
job. But possible. 

I call it "being there authentically." Martin H. might call it "Dasein." Call 
it what you like, but it is worth a trip. 

I'm going to try. Will you?


ho





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-Original Message-
From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Marai 
Kiele via OSList
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 6:33 AM
To: ost list international
Cc: Marai Kiele
Subject: [OSList] What is y/our biggest vision for OST ?

Dear colleagues,

Are you interested in fresh thinking regarding OST?
Are you interested in making it better?

I recently participated in the WOSonOS planning meeting and ever since 

Re: [OSList] Research OST

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Brigitt,What if you could collect stories of what happens after the OST 
meetings? Both from participants and non-participants in the System, and how 
they experience a possible relation to the meetings?  Might bring interesting 
insights. I would love to hear your stories.Good luck with your research,
Tonnie van der ZouwenProfessor Sustainable Working and Organising Avans 
University of Applied Sciences.


Verzonden vanaf mijn Samsung-apparaat

 Oorspronkelijk bericht 
Van: Harrison Owen via OSList  
Datum: 26-02-17  20:03  (GMT+01:00) 
Aan: 'Birgitt Williams' , 'World wide Open 
Space Technology email list'  
Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Research OST 

Brigitt – I think you are doing quite well. Keep going! Possible hypotheses 
to be tested: Learning as a self organizing phenomenon: Do Kids do better in 
Open Space?Project design – A self organizing reality? --  Will you do better, 
faster in Open Space?Organizational Planning: When the Whole System is in the 
room and self organizing – Do we Fly? ???.Just for a beginning. ho  
Winter Address7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD 20854301-365-2093 Summer 
Address189 Beaucauire AveCamden, ME 04843207 763-3261 
Websiteswww.openspaceworld.comwww.ho-image.com From: OSList 
[mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Birgitt Williams 
via OSList
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:52 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Research OST thank you Harrison for simplifying what is 
and is not OST for researchers. I would be pleased if you (and others of 
course) would be willing to add more of a picture for what researchers could be 
looking for/measuring. It has always been a puzzle to me as to how we could do 
a good job of the research. Those of us who work with/experience OST know 
that-it works every time-outcomes beyond what is expected occur including an 
experience of self leadership, shared vision, exceptional communications, self 
management including efficient use of personal 
energy/wisdom/learning/contributing-quantity of discussions that take place is 
much greater than people think can be possible-quality of discussions is much 
greater How do we put this into a research design so that we can capture the 
narrative from a research perspective?  And not to miss out on the other 
important aspects of 'does it make a difference that matters?' in the long run 
I realize that some will feel there is no point to doing this research. Maybe 
there is not. And yet I so love OST as a meeting method, I know it has made so 
much difference in the world, and I believe that there is an important step 
that will be valuable which is to capture the research about OST before the 
variations on it cloud the picture more than is already happening. This may not 
be possible. Research is not my strong point I am a story teller at heart 
and understand the importance of story as evidenceand yet I know that story 
is still considered soft science, or at art, outside of the realm of hard 
science.Peaceful Sunday to all,Birgitt On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:14 AM 
Harrison Owen  wrote:Sorry. Misunderstood. My point for the 
researchers is simple – a) Insure that the essential experimental conditions 
are present. (real issue, voluntary attendance, massive complexity, similar 
diversity, decision time of yesterday) b) Follow procedure (Circle Bulletin 
board, market place, go to work) –  Then open  your eyes, take out pencils 
cameras, recorders and have at it. Useful topics will overwhelm. --- Efficiency 
effectiveness compared to “standard procedures, resolution of conflict, 
personal growth and development, learning potential and on and on. Have fun! ho 
 Winter Address7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD 20854301-365-2093 Summer 
Address189 Beaucauire AveCamden, ME 04843207 763-3261 
Websiteswww.openspaceworld.comwww.ho-image.com From: OSList 
[mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Birgitt Williams 
via OSList
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:30 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Research OST Harrison---the point I was making is about 
research. If the research is based on going down the path of proving self 
organization, it is not as valuable to making the case for OST as OST works! It 
simply works, is useful, creates results. BirgittOn Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 
PM Harrison Owen  wrote:Birgitt – I guess we differ. 
Proving that self organization works is about as useful as proving that oxygen 
works for breathing. Seems to. And are there other things going on in Open 
Space apart from self organization? Absolutely. Or perhaps not at all. Just 
life. ho Winter Address7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD 20854301-365-2093 Summer 
Address189 Beaucauire AveCamden, ME 04843207 763-3261 

[OSList] Open Space Technology for action planning in a Future Search conference

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Dear all, 

 

Long time since we met, but you are still in my heart. I have a great
experience I would like to share with you. Last year Sicco van der Sluis and
I facilitated a three day Future Search on building a shared vision for
Berkel Valley, a region at the border of Netherlands-Germany. We used Open
Space Technology for action planning on the last day and that turned out to
be a good combination. For an impression of this conference with a marriage
of Future Search and Open Space Technology, you are welcome to visit the
photo report  https://flic.kr/s/aHskQFon6u 

 

If you want to learn more about 'cooking with the principles of co-creation'
, building on proven recipes, maybe you might be interested in joining the
two-and-a-half day training workshop 'Anticipating the future with the whole
system, co-creating new structures for collaboration', 27 -29 April 2017  in
the Netherlands. Facilitated by me, via COS Collective. Please see
http://www.cos-journal.com/events/anticipating-the-future-with-the-whole-sys
tem-co-creating-new-structures-for-collaboration/ 

 

Enjoy life! 

Best, 

Tonnie van der Zouwen 

 

Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM |Professor Sustainable Working and Organising
| Centre of Expertise Sustainable Business | Avans University of Applied
Sciences | +31 6 10 13 70 18 |Postbus 90.116 | 4800 RA Breda, Netherlands|
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Re: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Lisa, hi all Open Spacers, 

 

Great Poem. Happy lurking in 2015!

 

Tonnie

 


Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM 

Larikslaan 1
5248 BP Rosmalen
The Netherlands

Tel.:
E-mail:
Internet:

+ 31 6 - 50 69 79 82  mailto:i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl 
i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl
 http://www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl/ www.tonnievanderzouwen.com
 http://www.largescaleinterventions.com/ www.largescaleinterventions.com
http://twitter.com/TonnievdZouwen twitter-bird-blue-on-white
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonnievanderzouwen LinkedIn_Logo30px.png

 

 

 

 

Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Lisa Heft
- via OSList
Verzonden: zaterdag 27 december 2014 01:19
Aan: OSLIST
Onderwerp: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

 

Hello, dear friends. 

As your current OSLIST Poet Laureate I wish to continue to create found
poetry, in the practice of one of our late great past Poet Laureates, Ms.
Laurel Doersam.

I sit with a conversation you have had and think about how it comes apart
and fits back together again in a new and poetic way.

I enjoy showing you back … yourselves. 

Happy reading - Lisa Heft

 



 

In Honor of the Lurkers

 
Hey…

I am a lurker and sometimes contributor.
I am one of the frequent lurkers.
I am proud to be a frequent lurker.
Mostly lurk but occasionally comment. 
Mostly lurking for many years. 
A regular lurker. 
Read the list. Daily.

Mostly silent, sometimes reading, often feeling and holding space. 

Even trawling through pages and pages of repetitive posts on the digest
format doesn't keep me away. 

Hey - I'm a regular lurker. 
I'm a regular lurker and learner.

I enjoy the constant reminder about the core of OS principles.
I particularly enjoy the principles of open space as practiced by the
participants:
No admonishments about perceived “off topic” threads,
No shut-downs when (if) there’s a flurry of un-subscriptions due to the
above.
Such a positive list with world wide participants, so great.
I am in love and in debt to this beautiful community.

Enjoying…learning….practicing…

Lurk
Hey YES!
Hello
I’m a permanent lurker
Same here.

It's enlivening to see both the old hands and the new waves of Open Space
lovers.
A cool combination of experienced practitioners and new comers.

The experience, curiosity, wisdom and generosity demonstrated through this
list is very important to me, my work and life. 
I love the living wisdom through this OSLIST. 
I enjoy the reflections and the enthusiasm. 
I enjoy the fresh perspectives offered by REAL OSers.
I feel connected to the community and I get inspiring ideas.
From time to time I cannot resist to send again a tiny contribution to say
hello I’m still there.

Hi.
Hi!
Hi, everybody!
I do lurk most of the time.

Sometimes the volume is over my capacity.
I sometimes comment.

Sometimes I am reading daily, sometimes weekly, sometimes I do not check for
a few months, 
and then simply delete the build up.
Applying the law of two feet with my two eyes. 
And then I start again

Definitely a lurker with random bits of input and responses.

I am a frequent 'participant' in the discussion - but almost always only in
my head. 
And I have many very fruitful conversations with you all – in my head.
I engage in the conversation, try on different responses.
I keep thinking of writing, but then see all the wisdom on the list and
think, that’s it. Why repeat. 
I always learn…and I know the next time I have a question there will always
be somebody to help answer it for me.

Hey,
He,
Hey.
Hey everyone, 
Here it comes: I am a lurker.
I’m a passionate lurker.
Love to learn while lurking.

I am always here!

I appreciate the active participation of some players who represent the
thoughts of many others.
Always appreciate new voices and perspectives as well.
I feel connected to many of the topics that have been shared here in this
group.

Hey - I'm here too.
I lurk here too.
I lurk a lot.
Me too!
I am an active reader.
I READ every message, and learn a lot! 

Yep, I mostly lurk. 

Gratitude to still be amongst this community. 
Grateful for our co-learning.
MASSIVELY GRATEFUL for all I have learned. 
Always a grateful and admiring learner. 
A learning-by-listening kind of lurk.

My active participation is in the listening / reading space at the rim.
Not posting often, but taking in the gifts of this list with much gratitude
and passing them on in the world. 
And in applying the principles of practice in my own life a lot of the time.


Often I have so many things to do 
that I don’t give myself the time to sit down and write a thorough, well
thought reply. 
Now that I write this, 
I realize that it is not necessary to put the bar that high. 
It does not always have to be of academic quality – 
a simple sharing will do, too. 
So this is a note to myself.

Hi!
Hey!
Hey OS List Folks
Another lurker.
I lurk often and read a lot! 

I use the list and the amazing contributions as inspiration to remind me why
I love doing this. 
And 

Re: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Lisa, hi all Open Spacers, 

 

Great Poem. Happy lurking in 2015!

 

Tonnie

 


Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM 

Larikslaan 1
5248 BP Rosmalen
The Netherlands

Tel.:
E-mail:
Internet:

+ 31 6 - 50 69 79 82  mailto:i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl 
i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl
 http://www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl/ www.tonnievanderzouwen.com
 http://www.largescaleinterventions.com/ www.largescaleinterventions.com
http://twitter.com/TonnievdZouwen twitter-bird-blue-on-white
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonnievanderzouwen LinkedIn_Logo30px.png

 

 

 

 

Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Lisa Heft
- via OSList
Verzonden: zaterdag 27 december 2014 01:19
Aan: OSLIST
Onderwerp: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

 

Hello, dear friends. 

As your current OSLIST Poet Laureate I wish to continue to create found
poetry, in the practice of one of our late great past Poet Laureates, Ms.
Laurel Doersam.

I sit with a conversation you have had and think about how it comes apart
and fits back together again in a new and poetic way.

I enjoy showing you back … yourselves. 

Happy reading - Lisa Heft

 



 

In Honor of the Lurkers

 
Hey…

I am a lurker and sometimes contributor.
I am one of the frequent lurkers.
I am proud to be a frequent lurker.
Mostly lurk but occasionally comment. 
Mostly lurking for many years. 
A regular lurker. 
Read the list. Daily.

Mostly silent, sometimes reading, often feeling and holding space. 

Even trawling through pages and pages of repetitive posts on the digest
format doesn't keep me away. 

Hey - I'm a regular lurker. 
I'm a regular lurker and learner.

I enjoy the constant reminder about the core of OS principles.
I particularly enjoy the principles of open space as practiced by the
participants:
No admonishments about perceived “off topic” threads,
No shut-downs when (if) there’s a flurry of un-subscriptions due to the
above.
Such a positive list with world wide participants, so great.
I am in love and in debt to this beautiful community.

Enjoying…learning….practicing…

Lurk
Hey YES!
Hello
I’m a permanent lurker
Same here.

It's enlivening to see both the old hands and the new waves of Open Space
lovers.
A cool combination of experienced practitioners and new comers.

The experience, curiosity, wisdom and generosity demonstrated through this
list is very important to me, my work and life. 
I love the living wisdom through this OSLIST. 
I enjoy the reflections and the enthusiasm. 
I enjoy the fresh perspectives offered by REAL OSers.
I feel connected to the community and I get inspiring ideas.
From time to time I cannot resist to send again a tiny contribution to say
hello I’m still there.

Hi.
Hi!
Hi, everybody!
I do lurk most of the time.

Sometimes the volume is over my capacity.
I sometimes comment.

Sometimes I am reading daily, sometimes weekly, sometimes I do not check for
a few months, 
and then simply delete the build up.
Applying the law of two feet with my two eyes. 
And then I start again

Definitely a lurker with random bits of input and responses.

I am a frequent 'participant' in the discussion - but almost always only in
my head. 
And I have many very fruitful conversations with you all – in my head.
I engage in the conversation, try on different responses.
I keep thinking of writing, but then see all the wisdom on the list and
think, that’s it. Why repeat. 
I always learn…and I know the next time I have a question there will always
be somebody to help answer it for me.

Hey,
He,
Hey.
Hey everyone, 
Here it comes: I am a lurker.
I’m a passionate lurker.
Love to learn while lurking.

I am always here!

I appreciate the active participation of some players who represent the
thoughts of many others.
Always appreciate new voices and perspectives as well.
I feel connected to many of the topics that have been shared here in this
group.

Hey - I'm here too.
I lurk here too.
I lurk a lot.
Me too!
I am an active reader.
I READ every message, and learn a lot! 

Yep, I mostly lurk. 

Gratitude to still be amongst this community. 
Grateful for our co-learning.
MASSIVELY GRATEFUL for all I have learned. 
Always a grateful and admiring learner. 
A learning-by-listening kind of lurk.

My active participation is in the listening / reading space at the rim.
Not posting often, but taking in the gifts of this list with much gratitude
and passing them on in the world. 
And in applying the principles of practice in my own life a lot of the time.


Often I have so many things to do 
that I don’t give myself the time to sit down and write a thorough, well
thought reply. 
Now that I write this, 
I realize that it is not necessary to put the bar that high. 
It does not always have to be of academic quality – 
a simple sharing will do, too. 
So this is a note to myself.

Hi!
Hey!
Hey OS List Folks
Another lurker.
I lurk often and read a lot! 

I use the list and the amazing contributions as inspiration to remind me why
I love doing this. 
And 

Re: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

[Tonnie van der Zouwen via OSList]

Hi Lisa, hi all Open Spacers, 

 

Great Poem. Happy lurking in 2015!

 

Tonnie

 


Dr. Tonnie van der Zouwen MCM 

Larikslaan 1
5248 BP Rosmalen
The Netherlands

Tel.:
E-mail:
Internet:

+ 31 6 - 50 69 79 82  mailto:i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl 
i...@tonnievanderzouwen.nl
 http://www.tonnievanderzouwen.nl/ www.tonnievanderzouwen.com
 http://www.largescaleinterventions.com/ www.largescaleinterventions.com
http://twitter.com/TonnievdZouwen twitter-bird-blue-on-white
http://www.linkedin.com/in/tonnievanderzouwen LinkedIn_Logo30px.png

 

 

 

 

Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Lisa Heft
- via OSList
Verzonden: zaterdag 27 december 2014 01:19
Aan: OSLIST
Onderwerp: [OSList] In Honor of the Lurkers

 

Hello, dear friends. 

As your current OSLIST Poet Laureate I wish to continue to create found
poetry, in the practice of one of our late great past Poet Laureates, Ms.
Laurel Doersam.

I sit with a conversation you have had and think about how it comes apart
and fits back together again in a new and poetic way.

I enjoy showing you back … yourselves. 

Happy reading - Lisa Heft

 



 

In Honor of the Lurkers

 
Hey…

I am a lurker and sometimes contributor.
I am one of the frequent lurkers.
I am proud to be a frequent lurker.
Mostly lurk but occasionally comment. 
Mostly lurking for many years. 
A regular lurker. 
Read the list. Daily.

Mostly silent, sometimes reading, often feeling and holding space. 

Even trawling through pages and pages of repetitive posts on the digest
format doesn't keep me away. 

Hey - I'm a regular lurker. 
I'm a regular lurker and learner.

I enjoy the constant reminder about the core of OS principles.
I particularly enjoy the principles of open space as practiced by the
participants:
No admonishments about perceived “off topic” threads,
No shut-downs when (if) there’s a flurry of un-subscriptions due to the
above.
Such a positive list with world wide participants, so great.
I am in love and in debt to this beautiful community.

Enjoying…learning….practicing…

Lurk
Hey YES!
Hello
I’m a permanent lurker
Same here.

It's enlivening to see both the old hands and the new waves of Open Space
lovers.
A cool combination of experienced practitioners and new comers.

The experience, curiosity, wisdom and generosity demonstrated through this
list is very important to me, my work and life. 
I love the living wisdom through this OSLIST. 
I enjoy the reflections and the enthusiasm. 
I enjoy the fresh perspectives offered by REAL OSers.
I feel connected to the community and I get inspiring ideas.
From time to time I cannot resist to send again a tiny contribution to say
hello I’m still there.

Hi.
Hi!
Hi, everybody!
I do lurk most of the time.

Sometimes the volume is over my capacity.
I sometimes comment.

Sometimes I am reading daily, sometimes weekly, sometimes I do not check for
a few months, 
and then simply delete the build up.
Applying the law of two feet with my two eyes. 
And then I start again

Definitely a lurker with random bits of input and responses.

I am a frequent 'participant' in the discussion - but almost always only in
my head. 
And I have many very fruitful conversations with you all – in my head.
I engage in the conversation, try on different responses.
I keep thinking of writing, but then see all the wisdom on the list and
think, that’s it. Why repeat. 
I always learn…and I know the next time I have a question there will always
be somebody to help answer it for me.

Hey,
He,
Hey.
Hey everyone, 
Here it comes: I am a lurker.
I’m a passionate lurker.
Love to learn while lurking.

I am always here!

I appreciate the active participation of some players who represent the
thoughts of many others.
Always appreciate new voices and perspectives as well.
I feel connected to many of the topics that have been shared here in this
group.

Hey - I'm here too.
I lurk here too.
I lurk a lot.
Me too!
I am an active reader.
I READ every message, and learn a lot! 

Yep, I mostly lurk. 

Gratitude to still be amongst this community. 
Grateful for our co-learning.
MASSIVELY GRATEFUL for all I have learned. 
Always a grateful and admiring learner. 
A learning-by-listening kind of lurk.

My active participation is in the listening / reading space at the rim.
Not posting often, but taking in the gifts of this list with much gratitude
and passing them on in the world. 
And in applying the principles of practice in my own life a lot of the time.


Often I have so many things to do 
that I don’t give myself the time to sit down and write a thorough, well
thought reply. 
Now that I write this, 
I realize that it is not necessary to put the bar that high. 
It does not always have to be of academic quality – 
a simple sharing will do, too. 
So this is a note to myself.

Hi!
Hey!
Hey OS List Folks
Another lurker.
I lurk often and read a lot! 

I use the list and the amazing contributions as inspiration to remind me why
I love doing this. 
And