Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to
think about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 Hi Kari

 I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far
 too difficult.

 Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
 (Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
 I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

 Cheers


 *John Baxter*
 *Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator*
 jsbaxter.com.au http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | CoCreateADL.com
 0405 447 829
 ​ | ​
 @jsbaxter_ http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

 *Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City
 Grill!*
 *Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
 http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/*


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
HI

I think you could look at work on capability/functionings… Sen and Agency… 
personal and Collective Bandura… as a starting point for a survey around 
participation in OS.

Best Karl

Karl Royle
Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
Walsall Campus
Gorway Road
WS1 3BD
Skype Karlr61
Twitter @karlroyle
Web: wlv.academia.edu/KarlRoyle
Phone 01902323006
Mobile 07815416698
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From: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
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Date: Monday, 24 November 2014 11:23
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research 
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to think 
about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too 
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


John Baxter
Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
jsbaxter.com.auhttp://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | 
CoCreateADL.comhttp://CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
​ | ​
@jsbaxter_http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!
Summary and links: 
cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology. I 
propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a trial 
design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived 
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among our 
grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to collect some 
understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It 
will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of 
such survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time to 
build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There is urgency 
to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a real need for this 
approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even try to find a design that 
allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and 
publish a survey that we then allow events to use to collect data for us, data 
that we then give to researchers where they can use it for their publishing 
needs. There is also the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks 
like it is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory 
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new gathering 
pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less controlling 
that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a broader sense of 
analyses under the more general heading of participatory processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of 
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the 
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3 hour 
open space for a local branch of a political on their internal operations. 
There were also a lot of other things happening before and after the 
conversation part of the program, some football fans even disappeared during 
the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I was happy that we had the 
lunch before the open space, I took some time for reflection and thinking about 
the possible dream future and topics that make us show up for the work. Then 
reflection and lunch was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then 
back to the introduction of principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law 
of mobility, the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was 
short time

Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to
think about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 Hi Kari

 I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far
 too difficult.

 Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
 (Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
 I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

 Cheers


 *John Baxter*
 *Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator*
 jsbaxter.com.au http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | CoCreateADL.com
 0405 447 829
 ​ | ​
 @jsbaxter_ http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

 *Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City
 Grill!*
 *Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
 http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/*


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
HI

I think you could look at work on capability/functionings… Sen and Agency… 
personal and Collective Bandura… as a starting point for a survey around 
participation in OS.

Best Karl

Karl Royle
Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
Walsall Campus
Gorway Road
WS1 3BD
Skype Karlr61
Twitter @karlroyle
Web: wlv.academia.edu/KarlRoyle
Phone 01902323006
Mobile 07815416698
Certified Scrum Master

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From: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Reply-To: Kári Gunnarsson 
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Space Technology email list 
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Date: Monday, 24 November 2014 11:23
To: John Baxter j...@jsbaxter.com.aumailto:j...@jsbaxter.com.au, World wide 
Open Space Technology email list 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research 
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to think 
about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too 
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


John Baxter
Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
jsbaxter.com.auhttp://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | 
CoCreateADL.comhttp://CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
​ | ​
@jsbaxter_http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!
Summary and links: 
cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology. I 
propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a trial 
design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived 
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among our 
grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to collect some 
understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It 
will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of 
such survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time to 
build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There is urgency 
to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a real need for this 
approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even try to find a design that 
allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and 
publish a survey that we then allow events to use to collect data for us, data 
that we then give to researchers where they can use it for their publishing 
needs. There is also the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks 
like it is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory 
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new gathering 
pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less controlling 
that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a broader sense of 
analyses under the more general heading of participatory processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of 
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the 
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3 hour 
open space for a local branch of a political on their internal operations. 
There were also a lot of other things happening before and after the 
conversation part of the program, some football fans even disappeared during 
the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I was happy that we had the 
lunch before the open space, I took some time for reflection and thinking about 
the possible dream future and topics that make us show up for the work. Then 
reflection and lunch was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then 
back to the introduction of principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law 
of mobility, the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was 
short time

Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to
think about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 Hi Kari

 I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far
 too difficult.

 Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
 (Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
 I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

 Cheers


 *John Baxter*
 *Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator*
 jsbaxter.com.au http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | CoCreateADL.com
 0405 447 829
 ​ | ​
 @jsbaxter_ http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

 *Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City
 Grill!*
 *Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
 http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/*


 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
 oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-24 Thread Royle, Karl via OSList
HI

I think you could look at work on capability/functionings… Sen and Agency… 
personal and Collective Bandura… as a starting point for a survey around 
participation in OS.

Best Karl

Karl Royle
Head of Enterprise and Commercial Development
Centre for Development and Applied Research in Education
Faculty of Education Health and Wellbeing
Walsall Campus
Gorway Road
WS1 3BD
Skype Karlr61
Twitter @karlroyle
Web: wlv.academia.edu/KarlRoyle
Phone 01902323006
Mobile 07815416698
Certified Scrum Master

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From: Kári Gunnarsson via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Reply-To: Kári Gunnarsson 
kari.gunnars...@simnet.ismailto:kari.gunnars...@simnet.is, World wide Open 
Space Technology email list 
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Date: Monday, 24 November 2014 11:23
To: John Baxter j...@jsbaxter.com.aumailto:j...@jsbaxter.com.au, World wide 
Open Space Technology email list 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
Subject: Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

Hi John

The next step would probably to identify some purpose in form of a research 
questions. What is it that we are looking for, so that we can start to think 
about what to measure.



On Friday, 21 November 2014, John Baxter via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgmailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too 
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


John Baxter
Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator
jsbaxter.com.auhttp://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | 
CoCreateADL.comhttp://CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
​ | ​
@jsbaxter_http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City Grill!
Summary and links: 
cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology. I 
propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a trial 
design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived 
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among our 
grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to collect some 
understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It 
will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of 
such survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time to 
build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There is urgency 
to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a real need for this 
approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even try to find a design that 
allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and 
publish a survey that we then allow events to use to collect data for us, data 
that we then give to researchers where they can use it for their publishing 
needs. There is also the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks 
like it is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory 
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new gathering 
pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less controlling 
that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a broader sense of 
analyses under the more general heading of participatory processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of 
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the 
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3 hour 
open space for a local branch of a political on their internal operations. 
There were also a lot of other things happening before and after the 
conversation part of the program, some football fans even disappeared during 
the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I was happy that we had the 
lunch before the open space, I took some time for reflection and thinking about 
the possible dream future and topics that make us show up for the work. Then 
reflection and lunch was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then 
back to the introduction of principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law 
of mobility, the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was 
short time

[OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology.
I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a
trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among
our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to
collect some understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable
science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the
task of building of such survey database along with the standardized
questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago, we are long
past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it?
Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host this
endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor.
My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then
allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
preconditions.

In openness,
Kári the group coach
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList

Hi Kári,

Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

Daniel

On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved 
technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. 
An idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the 
nuances of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data 
collected by cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given 
to unaffiliated researchers to collect some understandings and make 
their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It will probably 
be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of such 
survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time 
to build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There 
is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a 
real need for this approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even 
try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision 
is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then allow 
events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to 
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is 
also the Pandora's Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it 
is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.


The new late majority folks are going for the theme of participatory 
processes and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new 
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is 
less controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be 
part of a broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of 
participatory processes.


But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type 
of analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look 
at the difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research 
procedures.


A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 
3 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal 
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and 
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even 
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally 
I was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some 
time for reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and 
topics that make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch 
was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the 
introduction of principles ... Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!... democracy of the 
feet / the law of mobility, the bugs and what they give us. Then brake 
for topics. ...  It was short time and a lot of conflict of attention 
by the sponsors for the other parts of the day program, but it worked 
out well. The passion for work and the freedom of this technology 
opened for topics and responsibility that had previously been 
submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures. Give a little 
time and then open up some space, works each time given the preconditions.


In openness,
Kári the group coach



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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi Daniel

You are welcome.

My tiered English was not at it best in the first post, but I hope the
spellchecker managed to make my writing readable.

Well there is always the purpose of the occasion and how it plays out. I
would now be interested how different participatory processes work for
individuals and compare it to Belbin team roles or the personality
psychology of the five scales: Cautious-inventive; Organized-careless;
Energetic-reserved; Analytical-compassionate; and Confident-nervous. But
what to measure for is of-course up to the purpose of our survey.

What would be our next step in this topic offering.

In openness,
Kári the group coach



On 20 November 2014 14:06, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

  Hi Kári,

 Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

 Daniel


 On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach



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 Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
 http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the Agile
 Manager.

 Explore Agile Team Training
 http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread John Baxter via OSList
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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[OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology.
I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a
trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among
our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to
collect some understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable
science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the
task of building of such survey database along with the standardized
questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago, we are long
past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it?
Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host this
endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor.
My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then
allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
preconditions.

In openness,
Kári the group coach
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList

Hi Kári,

Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

Daniel

On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved 
technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. 
An idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the 
nuances of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data 
collected by cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given 
to unaffiliated researchers to collect some understandings and make 
their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It will probably 
be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of such 
survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time 
to build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There 
is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a 
real need for this approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even 
try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision 
is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then allow 
events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to 
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is 
also the Pandora's Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it 
is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.


The new late majority folks are going for the theme of participatory 
processes and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new 
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is 
less controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be 
part of a broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of 
participatory processes.


But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type 
of analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look 
at the difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research 
procedures.


A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 
3 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal 
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and 
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even 
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally 
I was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some 
time for reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and 
topics that make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch 
was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the 
introduction of principles ... Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!... democracy of the 
feet / the law of mobility, the bugs and what they give us. Then brake 
for topics. ...  It was short time and a lot of conflict of attention 
by the sponsors for the other parts of the day program, but it worked 
out well. The passion for work and the freedom of this technology 
opened for topics and responsibility that had previously been 
submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures. Give a little 
time and then open up some space, works each time given the preconditions.


In openness,
Kári the group coach



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Examine my new book:The Culture Game 
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the 
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training 
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching. 
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi Daniel

You are welcome.

My tiered English was not at it best in the first post, but I hope the
spellchecker managed to make my writing readable.

Well there is always the purpose of the occasion and how it plays out. I
would now be interested how different participatory processes work for
individuals and compare it to Belbin team roles or the personality
psychology of the five scales: Cautious-inventive; Organized-careless;
Energetic-reserved; Analytical-compassionate; and Confident-nervous. But
what to measure for is of-course up to the purpose of our survey.

What would be our next step in this topic offering.

In openness,
Kári the group coach



On 20 November 2014 14:06, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

  Hi Kári,

 Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

 Daniel


 On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach



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 Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog
 http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter
 http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.

 Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
 http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the Agile
 Manager.

 Explore Agile Team Training
 http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.
 http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/

 Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/
 Community.

 

Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread John Baxter via OSList
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


*John Baxter*
*Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator*
jsbaxter.com.au http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
​ | ​
@jsbaxter_ http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City
Grill!*
*Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/*


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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[OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved technology.
I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An idea for a
trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances of the lived
experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by cooperation among
our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated researchers to
collect some understandings and make their own conclusions in publishable
science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even impossible the
task of building of such survey database along with the standardized
questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago, we are long
past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it?
Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host this
endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor.
My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then
allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
processes.

But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
procedures.

A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
preconditions.

In openness,
Kári the group coach
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList

Hi Kári,

Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

Daniel

On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:
There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved 
technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. 
An idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the 
nuances of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data 
collected by cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given 
to unaffiliated researchers to collect some understandings and make 
their own conclusions in publishable science papers. It will probably 
be far too difficult, even impossible the task of building of such 
survey database along with the standardized questioners. And the time 
to build it was sometime long ago, we are long past out do time. There 
is urgency to this task. But do we have to do it? Well, is there a 
real need for this approach? I think we can host this endeavor, even 
try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded rigor. My vision 
is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we then allow 
events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to 
researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is 
also the Pandora's Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it 
is a topic ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.


The new late majority folks are going for the theme of participatory 
processes and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new 
gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is 
less controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be 
part of a broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of 
participatory processes.


But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type 
of analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look 
at the difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research 
procedures.


A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 
3 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal 
operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and 
after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even 
disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally 
I was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some 
time for reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and 
topics that make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch 
was served, a lot of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the 
introduction of principles ... Whatever happens is the only thing 
that could have, be prepared to be surprised!... democracy of the 
feet / the law of mobility, the bugs and what they give us. Then brake 
for topics. ...  It was short time and a lot of conflict of attention 
by the sponsors for the other parts of the day program, but it worked 
out well. The passion for work and the freedom of this technology 
opened for topics and responsibility that had previously been 
submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures. Give a little 
time and then open up some space, works each time given the preconditions.


In openness,
Kári the group coach



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Examine my new book:The Culture Game 
http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the 
Agile Manager.


Explore Agile Team Training 
http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching. 
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread Kári Gunnarsson via OSList
Hi Daniel

You are welcome.

My tiered English was not at it best in the first post, but I hope the
spellchecker managed to make my writing readable.

Well there is always the purpose of the occasion and how it plays out. I
would now be interested how different participatory processes work for
individuals and compare it to Belbin team roles or the personality
psychology of the five scales: Cautious-inventive; Organized-careless;
Energetic-reserved; Analytical-compassionate; and Confident-nervous. But
what to measure for is of-course up to the purpose of our survey.

What would be our next step in this topic offering.

In openness,
Kári the group coach



On 20 November 2014 14:06, Daniel Mezick via OSList 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

  Hi Kári,

 Thank you for making your proposals. They are very interesting!

 Daniel


 On 11/20/14 6:34 AM, Kári Gunnarsson via OSList wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach



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 (203) 915 7248 (cell)

 Bio http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/. Blog
 http://newtechusa.net/blog/. Twitter
 http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/.

 Examine my new book:  The Culture Game
 http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/: Tools for the Agile
 Manager.

 Explore Agile Team Training
 http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/ and Coaching.
 http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/

 Explore the Agile Boston http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/
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Re: [OSList] Critical Testing

2014-11-20 Thread John Baxter via OSList
Hi Kari

I like your intent, but I hear you when you say you fear it may be far too
difficult.

Do you have any thoughts on viable first steps?
(Beyond the immediate step of sharing intent to see what comes of it!)
I am thinking of what in startup language is 'minimum viable product'.

Cheers


*John Baxter*
*Cocreation Consultant  ​Co​Create Adelaide Facilitator*
jsbaxter.com.au http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/ | CoCreateADL.com
0405 447 829
​ | ​
@jsbaxter_ http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_

*Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City
Grill!*
*Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/
http://cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/*


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Kári Gunnarsson 
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote:

 There is an invitation to some scientific rigor for our beloved
 technology. I propose we accept this invitation as a communal effort. An
 idea for a trial design would be to collect survey data where the nuances
 of the lived experiences would be teased out, survey data collected by
 cooperation among our grand Institutes and access given to unaffiliated
 researchers to collect some understandings and make their own conclusions
 in publishable science papers. It will probably be far too difficult, even
 impossible the task of building of such survey database along with the
 standardized questioners. And the time to build it was sometime long ago,
 we are long past out do time. There is urgency to this task. But do we have
 to do it? Well, is there a real need for this approach? I think we can host
 this endeavor, even try to find a design that allows for a Double-blinded
 rigor. My vision is that we design standardize and publish a survey that we
 then allow events to use to collect data for us, data that we then give to
 researchers where they can use it for their publishing needs. There is also
 the Pandora’s Box of issues and opportunities. It looks like it is a topic
 ripe for an open space, be prepared to be surprised.

 The new late majority folks are going for the theme of „participatory
 processes“ and request an overview over the landscape. It is the new
 gathering pole and open space is central for me in this arena as it is less
 controlling that other processes. Perhaps tour rigor should be part of a
 broader sense of analyses under the more general heading of participatory
 processes.

 But perhaps when we look at Open Space, then we must use the same type of
 analyses as when we look at research approaches, like when we look at the
 difference on Double-blinded procedure done by WHR Rivers
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._H._R._Rivers and earlier research
 procedures.

 A resent story on time to think, two weeks ago I facilitated a short 3
 hour open space for a local branch of a political on their internal
 operations. There were also a lot of other things happening before and
 after the conversation part of the program, some football fans even
 disappeared during the open space to see the ongoing game.  Personally I
 was happy that we had the lunch before the open space, I took some time for
 reflection and thinking about the possible dream future and topics that
 make us show up for the work. Then reflection and lunch was served, a lot
 of chatter during the soup lunch, then back to the introduction of
 principles … “Whatever happens is the only thing that could have, be
 prepared to be surprised!”… democracy of the feet / the law of mobility,
 the bugs and what they give us.  Then brake for topics. …  It was short
 time and a lot of conflict of attention by the sponsors for the other parts
 of the day program, but it worked out well. The passion for work and the
 freedom of this technology opened for topics and responsibility that had
 previously been submerged by the tyranny of long speeches and lectures.
 Give a little time and then open up some space, works each time given the
 preconditions.

 In openness,
 Kári the group coach


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