Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Works! Many thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Try to change the one in the line 6, that may override the one in the car profile. Dne 13. dubna 2019 14:54:48 Harald Kosian napsal: Hello, didn't succeed ... Copied routing.xml from the apk-file, edited the entry on line 375 to: minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5" rightTurn="5" roundaboutTurn="5" onewayAware="true" heuristicCoefficient="1.4" > but after restarting Osmand there's absolutely no effect (the file is on the right place, because when i put a syntax error in it, Osmand crashes immediatedly after start). What am i doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Hello, didn't succeed ... Copied routing.xml from the apk-file, edited the entry on line 375 to: but after restarting Osmand there's absolutely no effect (the file is on the right place, because when i put a syntax error in it, Osmand crashes immediatedly after start). What am i doing wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
I know about that option and intentionally did not mention it. It is often adviced against downloading the file directly from the master GitHub branch, That is indeed easier and faster. As it can occasionally cause OsmAnd to crash or behave strangely, if the file version is not backward compatible with the one of the latest release. IIRC, one such a crash occured to me too. Dne 29. března 2019 22:54:35 Harry van der Wolf napsal: A bit shorter and a bit more precise :) 1) Don't touch OsmAnd. 2) Download the routing.xml from the OsmAnd github: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml 3) Change line 375: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml#L375 to minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5" rightTurn="5" roundaboutTurn="5" onewayAware="true" heuristicCoefficient="1.4"> (or some value between 1.2 and 1.4) 4) save it to the OsmAnd data folder Harry Op vr 29 mrt. 2019 om 19:44 schreef Helmut Jarausch : Thanks for the tip! Poutnik Fornntp schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019, 11:12: Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details multiple times. In short, 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+ version 2) optionally rename it to .ZIP 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file 4) edit the coefficient there ( it is a text file ) 5) put it on the OsmAnd data folder. In case of major changes in osmand routing, it is adviced to repeat this process. Dne 29. března 2019 10:12:55 Helmut Jarausch napsal:> Hi, how can I change this heuristic coefficient? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
A bit shorter and a bit more precise :) 1) Don't touch OsmAnd. 2) Download the routing.xml from the OsmAnd github: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml 3) Change line 375: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml#L375 to (or some value between 1.2 and 1.4) 4) save it to the OsmAnd data folder Harry Op vr 29 mrt. 2019 om 19:44 schreef Helmut Jarausch : > Thanks for the tip! > > Poutnik Fornntp schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019, > 11:12: > >> Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details >> multiple times. >> >> In short, >> 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+ >> version >> 2) optionally rename it to .ZIP >> 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file >> 4) edit the coefficient there ( it is a text file ) >> 5) put it on the OsmAnd data folder. >> >> In case of major changes in osmand routing, >> it is adviced to repeat this process. >> >> >> Dne 29. března 2019 10:12:55 Helmut Jarausch >> napsal: >> >>> Hi, >>> how can I change this heuristic coefficient? >>> Many thanks for a hint, >>> Helmut >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Osmand" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Thanks for the tip! Poutnik Fornntp schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019, 11:12: > Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details > multiple times. > > In short, > 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+ > version > 2) optionally rename it to .ZIP > 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file > 4) edit the coefficient there ( it is a text file ) > 5) put it on the OsmAnd data folder. > > In case of major changes in osmand routing, > it is adviced to repeat this process. > > > Dne 29. března 2019 10:12:55 Helmut Jarausch napsal: > >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >> how can I change this heuristic coefficient? >> Many thanks for a hint, >> Helmut >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details multiple times. In short, 1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+ version 2) optionally rename it to .ZIP 3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file 4) edit the coefficient there ( it is a text file ) 5) put it on the OsmAnd data folder. In case of major changes in osmand routing, it is adviced to repeat this process. Dne 29. března 2019 10:12:55 Helmut Jarausch napsal: Hi, how can I change this heuristic coefficient? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Harry van der Wolf schrieb am Di., 26. März 2019, 11:24: > > For calculating routes OsmAnd uses a default heuristic coefficent of 1.0. > I always use 1.4 and can easily calculate routes up to 1500 km and > relatively fast. > Using a higher heuristic coefficient is "theoretically" reducing optimal > route calculation, but Osmand is really the only one around using 1.0. > Almost all apps using the A*-algorithm use values between 1.3 and 1.6. > As said, I use 1.4: my calculations are on longer routes up to 4x faster > calculating the 100% exact same route, memory consumption is hundreds of > megabytes lower. > So fiddling with the heuristic coefficient also gives you a "faster, more > memory efficient phone" for the same money. > For bike navigation Osmand is using 1.4 by default and for pedestrian > navigation it uses 1.2 by default. I didn't change that. > > Hi, > how can I change this heuristic coefficient? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
2GB working memory or better for longer car navigation. 1GB for cycling and hiking. Screen resolution is also important. OsmAnds rendering is not the fastest but Osmands maps are (by far) the most detailed ones. That takes time to render. 1024x600= 0.6 million pixels (my android car head unit), 1280*720 = 0.9 million pixels, 1920*1080=2.1 million pixels, 2960x1440= 4.3 million pixels. If you have a high-resolution phone/device, you certainly need a fast processor. Most of the time that goes hand in hand, but not always. My car head unit having 1024x600 pixels does have a relatively fast octa-core processor. OsmAnd screen rendering is very nice. My phone has 1920x1080 pixels with only a slightly faster octa-core CPU. It has to handle almost 4x times as much pixels!! I do see artifacts in rendering in car navigation. Most users don't realize this. This is of course for car navigation. With hiking/cycling the screen refresh rate doesn't have to be that high and almost everything works. For calculating routes OsmAnd uses a default heuristic coefficent of 1.0. I always use 1.4 and can easily calculate routes up to 1500 km and relatively fast. Using a higher heuristic coefficient is "theoretically" reducing optimal route calculation, but Osmand is really the only one around using 1.0. Almost all apps using the A*-algorithm use values between 1.3 and 1.6. As said, I use 1.4: my calculations are on longer routes up to 4x faster calculating the 100% exact same route, memory consumption is hundreds of megabytes lower. So fiddling with the heuristic coefficient also gives you a "faster, more memory efficient phone" for the same money. For bike navigation Osmand is using 1.4 by default and for pedestrian navigation it uses 1.2 by default. I didn't change that. Harry Op ma 25 mrt. 2019 om 22:03 schreef Aceman444 : > Hi, 2GB of RAM is currently plenty enough for running OsmAnd, but of > course more RAM will allow Android to cache the large map files and not > re-read them constantly from SD card. > For processor something around Snapdragon 630 is fine. > If you roam around the country, you may want a good location module. > GPS+GLONASS is standard, maybe you can get something with Galileo support > too. > > Dňa streda, 20. marca 2019 12:22:48 UTC+1 pap...@gmail.com napísal(-a): >> >> Thanks to all for your help. >> >> The main reason for buying a new phone is: More and more apps are now >> longer supported by android 4.3. Current >> timetable data, that are given as updates are no longer available. >> OsmAnd was the only app with performance problems. It is not funny, to >> miss a turn when going by car, because the message to make a turn came >> after passing the crossroad. >> Most times I used navigation when biking, and that was slow but ok. >> Main usage of OsmAnd was simply exploring the places where I travelled >> to. Over the years I have filled my SD-Card with 20 GB of Maps. >> >> Klaus >> >> Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019 17:35:36 UTC+1 schrieb Mikhail Kasadzhikov: >>> >>> On Sony Z1 compact (2 GB RAM) — works fast. >>> On Lenovo Tab 4 (2 GB RAM) — works not so fast as on Z1 but comfortable. >>> On old Motorola Atrix 2 (1 GB RAM) — works very slow, with hangs, with >>> crashes, sometimes reboot device. >>> >>> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Osmand" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
> The main reason for buying a new phone is: More and more apps are now > longer supported by android 4.3. That's why I strongly recommend you go with a device that's supported by LineageOS: they keep providing new releases *much* longer than the original manufacturer. Stefan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
Thanks to all for your help. The main reason for buying a new phone is: More and more apps are now longer supported by android 4.3. Current timetable data, that are given as updates are no longer available. OsmAnd was the only app with performance problems. It is not funny, to miss a turn when going by car, because the message to make a turn came after passing the crossroad. Most times I used navigation when biking, and that was slow but ok. Main usage of OsmAnd was simply exploring the places where I travelled to. Over the years I have filled my SD-Card with 20 GB of Maps. Klaus Am Dienstag, 19. März 2019 17:35:36 UTC+1 schrieb Mikhail Kasadzhikov: > > On Sony Z1 compact (2 GB RAM) — works fast. > On Lenovo Tab 4 (2 GB RAM) — works not so fast as on Z1 but comfortable. > On old Motorola Atrix 2 (1 GB RAM) — works very slow, with hangs, with > crashes, sometimes reboot device. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
On Sony Z1 compact (2 GB RAM) — works fast. On Lenovo Tab 4 (2 GB RAM) — works not so fast as on Z1 but comfortable. On old Motorola Atrix 2 (1 GB RAM) — works very slow, with hangs, with crashes, sometimes reboot device. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
> I have an old nexus5 (which was way cool in 2013), and osmand runs ok on > that, but I haven't tried to navigate with it lately. I use a Samsung S5, which dates back to the same era (and both come with 2GB of RAM) and Osmand runs fine in it, including navigation. [ Funnily enough gsmarena.com says it supports "Android 4.4.2, up to 6.0", but it runs Android 9 just fine (thank you LineageOS!). ] > It seems that almost any new phone in the US that isn't in a > super-low-price category would be ok. A second-hand phone may work just fine as well, since lots of people upgrade their phone gratuitously every 2-3 years. That would also spare the planet the harm of another of those gadgets. And another upside is that slightly older phones are also more likely to be supported by LineageOS. Stefan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
pap...@gmail.com writes: > OsmAnd runs very slow at my old jelly beans phone. I will buy a new one. > How much RAM and storage and how many cores with which frequency is needed > to achieve a good performance for OsmAnd? Hard to say, but a modern device with 3G of ram and a 64-bit arm chip should be fine. Below 2G and I'd be worried about osmand. I have an old nexus5 (which was way cool in 2013), and osmand runs ok on that, but I haven't tried to navigate with it lately. Could you give the specs of your current slow phone, and a specific model you are eyeing with what ram/cpu/flash it has? Not knowing where you are and the local android market, I have little idea of what might be available and the cost tradeoffs. It seems that almost any new phone in the US that isn't in a super-low-price category would be ok. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hardware needs for OsmAnd? (RAM, Storage, Cores, Frequency)
On Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:06:30 UTC+1, pap...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > OsmAnd runs very slow at my old jelly beans phone. I will buy a new one. > How much RAM and storage and how many cores with which frequency is needed > to achieve a good performance for OsmAnd? > > Best regards, > > Klaus > It is difficult to say without describing your exact use. Using roads only maps? Using detailed maps? Using both (not recommended)? Using several regions or one only? Navigating by car long routes, navigating by bike or pedestrian routes more or less locally? If you have to prioritise, go for more RAM. I have Redmi Note 4X with 4 GB RAM and OsmAnd is working fine for me, my father has Redmi 4x with 3 GB RAM and is using OsmAnd without problems as well. He might not have as much future-proofing built in, but I suspect the phone will give up sooner than OsmAnd will outgrow it for his usage. The big step up for me was going from 500 MB RAM up - this became unmaintainable even with all the workarounds I have employed to keep it going. But I did keep OsmAnd alive longer on this then was reasonable for at least a year, maybe longer :) And don't forget to think about space for the maps - they are growing in size constantly, if you cannot/will not use SD card, it can easily be the limiting factor as well (dual SIM phones sometimes use either second SIM or SD card, not both at the same time). Look for the size of the region you want to keep on you at all times, multiply by 2 or 3 to have reasonable reserve. Just saying when I hear you were using jelly beans phone and I suspect you will probably want to keep the new phone again for a long time. Majka -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Osmand" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to osmand+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
