RE: out of memory..urgent
Thanks people..going through all these options...let hope it fixes it...i'll keep you informed.. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 2:48 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: out of memory..urgent This is the utf8 validation I was thinking of -- Greg http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/302sbf78.aspx On 10 September 2013 14:00, osjasonrobe...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's of use in this case but you can use char.GetUnicodeCategory to check validity of a Unicode character var validCharacter = 'q'; var ucCategory = char.GetUnicodeCategory(validCharacter); var isValidUnicode = ucCategory != UnicodeCategory.OtherNotAssigned; var invalidCharacter = (char) 888; ucCategory = char.GetUnicodeCategory(invalidCharacter); isValidUnicode = ucCategory != UnicodeCategory.OtherNotAssigned; Jason Roberts Journeyman Software Developer Twitter: @robertsjason Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts From: Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 11:36 AM To: ozDotNet Does the byte[] actually represent a valid utf-8 string? There are ways of validating, but I can't remember off the top of my head. You can also code Encoding.UTF8.Getstring() as there is a static member for convenience -- Greg On 10 September 2013 13:04, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: Getting out of memory exception when I try to Dim s as string Dim b() as Byte s=System.Text.Encoding.GetEncoding(utf-8).GetString(b) Definitely something about the length of b..works fine most of the time except if b length is very large Anthony Melbourne StuffUps.learn from others, share with others! http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/ -- NOTICE : The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. (*13POrtC*) ---
TCP Messages to Server
Hi All, I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a shared web hosting service, is this possible? The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to. I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven't used one before.) Any pointers greatly appreciated. Regards .. Paul ..
Re: TCP Messages to Server
Not possible on a shared web hosting service as I doubt they'll permit you to run any sort of service and may be locked down a lot further depending on how switched on the provider is. VPS will do it no dramas. You'll need to write some sort of service to bind to an external IP and port. Piece of piss and heaps of code around to start from. David. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, ** ** I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a *shared* web hosting service, is this possible? ** ** The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to.* *** ** ** I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? ** ** I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? ** ** If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven’t used one before.)* *** ** ** Any pointers greatly appreciated. ** ** Regards .. Paul .. ** ** ** ** ** **
RE: TCP Messages to Server
You probably could if you use assumed port 80and got your modem to send a simulated page get with the headers From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 6:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: TCP Messages to Server Not possible on a shared web hosting service as I doubt they'll permit you to run any sort of service and may be locked down a lot further depending on how switched on the provider is. VPS will do it no dramas. You'll need to write some sort of service to bind to an external IP and port. Piece of piss and heaps of code around to start from. David. David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a shared web hosting service, is this possible? The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to. I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven’t used one before.) Any pointers greatly appreciated. Regards .. Paul ..
RE: TCP Messages to Server
Actually if I could turn it into a http request with a query string that would make the web code simple. Is it just a matter of having http headers? The modem data does attached to a web site. Hosting terms seem to allow a service as long as it integral to the site, which it is. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 7:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server You probably could if you use assumed port 80and got your modem to send a simulated page get with the headers From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 6:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: TCP Messages to Server Not possible on a shared web hosting service as I doubt they'll permit you to run any sort of service and may be locked down a lot further depending on how switched on the provider is. VPS will do it no dramas. You'll need to write some sort of service to bind to an external IP and port. Piece of piss and heaps of code around to start from. David. David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a shared web hosting service, is this possible? The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to. I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven’t used one before.) Any pointers greatly appreciated. Regards .. Paul .. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6651 - Release Date: 09/09/13
RE: TCP Messages to Server
Yes it is..use firebug or jsfiddler to get a standard template(with headers) you could use. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 7:29 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server Actually if I could turn it into a http request with a query string that would make the web code simple. Is it just a matter of having http headers? The modem data does attached to a web site. Hosting terms seem to allow a service as long as it integral to the site, which it is. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 7:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server You probably could if you use assumed port 80and got your modem to send a simulated page get with the headers From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 6:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: TCP Messages to Server Not possible on a shared web hosting service as I doubt they'll permit you to run any sort of service and may be locked down a lot further depending on how switched on the provider is. VPS will do it no dramas. You'll need to write some sort of service to bind to an external IP and port. Piece of piss and heaps of code around to start from. David. David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a shared web hosting service, is this possible? The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to. I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven’t used one before.) Any pointers greatly appreciated. Regards .. Paul .. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6651 - Release Date: 09/09/13
Re: Process.Start Stuck
dust off windbg, or open dump in vs2010 if .net4 to see what that thread is
doing.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
corne...@acorns.com.auwrote:
Existing Logging left and right of the Process.Start :)
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Wallace Turner
wallace.tur...@gmail.comwrote:
this stopped working and the Process.Start call blocks without ever
returning.
how did you verify this?
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
corne...@acorns.com.au wrote:
No, the process never starts. We did a new release from another PC
(which we expect to be identical) and the process does not get stuck and
everything works as expected. doh :(
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.com
wrote:
is the process you're starting still running ie can u see it in task
manager
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
corne...@acorns.com.au wrote:
Hi,
I have a website that is running some background tasks as separate
executables with Process.Start.
This has been working like this for a long time. However recently on
one of the servers this stopped working and the Process.Start call blocks
without ever returning.
There is no exception there is nothing in the event logs.
The user running the app pool has rights to the folder and can execute
the process correctly (i tried this with Run As on behalf of the app pool
user and it works).
Thoughts? I really didn't feel like doing some production debugging on
Saturday night ... so maybe someone has a brilliant idea.
Regarding code, it's just the most basic Process.Start possible:
var processStartInfo = new ProcessStartInfo(Executable, arguments)
{
CreateNoWindow = true,
WorkingDirectory = Folder,
UseShellExecute = true,
};
var process = new Process
{
StartInfo = processStartInfo,
EnableRaisingEvents = true
};
process.Exited += process_Exited;
process.Start();
Thanks,
Corneliu.
Fwd: Mocking up a designer surface
To: Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com Seriously dude, I'd be dropping Silverlight as fast as Microsoft did. Silverlight was great. I was one of it's biggest supporters and I'm still gobsmacked at how hard Microsoft have dropped it. but it's time to move on. No point in flogging a dead horse, as they say. Jeezuz! I know this topic has been floating around for a while now, but even I'm getting scared. After everything that's been said on this, the big practical question remains: how the hell does someone write a graphics intensive application that must be delivered over the web? Hints in here recently indicate that HTML5 just can't give the performance and richness, and I detest the idea of pushing controls and visuals around a screen using compressed JavaScript as the code-behind fake assembly language. That's not progress, it's a some kind of mad directionless mash-up. Are we in a dead end? We're about to launch a big product upgrade, still using Silverlight. We have had serious queries about mini versions of the app on tablets and phones (thread a couple of months ago), but despite that we have to keep the main desktop app going in the browser. What on earth is a viable alternative?!? WHAT? Can anyone convince me that Silverlight still has at least a few viable years left? Greg K
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
Hi Greg, At this point I am working on a new app, it will have an HTML web site for basic stuff and a downloadable win forms app for the intensive stuff, I would much rather do it with SL but MS has so upset the SL story that it is just not going to happen! Regards Greg H On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: To: Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com Seriously dude, I'd be dropping Silverlight as fast as Microsoft did. Silverlight was great. I was one of it's biggest supporters and I'm still gobsmacked at how hard Microsoft have dropped it. but it's time to move on. No point in flogging a dead horse, as they say. Jeezuz! I know this topic has been floating around for a while now, but even I'm getting scared. After everything that's been said on this, the big practical question remains: how the hell does someone write a graphics intensive application that must be delivered over the web? Hints in here recently indicate that HTML5 just can't give the performance and richness, and I detest the idea of pushing controls and visuals around a screen using compressed JavaScript as the code-behind fake assembly language. That's not progress, it's a some kind of mad directionless mash-up. Are we in a dead end? We're about to launch a big product upgrade, still using Silverlight. We have had serious queries about mini versions of the app on tablets and phones (thread a couple of months ago), but despite that we have to keep the main desktop app going in the browser. What on earth is a viable alternative?!? WHAT? Can anyone convince me that Silverlight still has at least a few viable years left? Greg K
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
At this point I am working on a new app, it will have an HTML web site for basic stuff and a downloadable win forms app for the intensive stuff, I would much rather do it with SL but MS has so upset the SL story that it is just not going to happen! Oh boy, another scary response. Will the html basic stuff have any kind of rich interaction? Also, you really mean WinForms and not WPF? Greg (K)
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
Hi Greg, Basic HTML will be simple CRUD table maintenance and reports. Rich interaction, not in the initial plan. Winforms - Yes at this stage that is what I am thinking, the app needs to do some extensive custom graphics which at this stage I intend to build up with GDI+ as it is what I have used before, but I am open to suggestions. I may go with WPF but that is not the way I am thinking just now. As the client wants to keep it cheap and fast. I like to look at job trends to see where the industry is going and WPF/Silverlight has not been happy for 2 years: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=wpf%2Csilverlightl=silverlight Regards Greg (H) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: At this point I am working on a new app, it will have an HTML web site for basic stuff and a downloadable win forms app for the intensive stuff, I would much rather do it with SL but MS has so upset the SL story that it is just not going to happen! Oh boy, another scary response. Will the html basic stuff have any kind of rich interaction? Also, you really mean WinForms and not WPF? Greg (K)
RE: out of memory..urgent
Memory isn't unlimited. Basically, when you convert from a byte array - string, you have two copies of the same data (one for the byte array and one for the string) in memory. What exactly are you doing? You are typically better off chunking and reading smaller amounts of data at a time. Use something like a StreamWriter over a stream to automatically handles the byte - text conversion. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 8:05 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: out of memory..urgent Getting out of memory exception when I try to Dim s as string Dim b() as Byte s=System.Text.Encoding.GetEncoding(utf-8).GetString(b) Definitely something about the length of b..works fine most of the time except if b length is very large Anthony Melbourne StuffUps...learn from others, share with others! http://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Ideas-Incubator-Stuffups-Failed-Startups/ -- NOTICE : The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. (*13POrtC*) ---
Re: Process.Start Stuck
It was Saturday night mate .. I was dusting off some beers and dumping some
pizza down my throat.
The I'll pass it to another team member and let them re-build it worked
better :)
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.comwrote:
dust off windbg, or open dump in vs2010 if .net4 to see what that thread
is doing.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au
wrote:
Existing Logging left and right of the Process.Start :)
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Wallace Turner wallace.tur...@gmail.com
wrote:
this stopped working and the Process.Start call blocks without ever
returning.
how did you verify this?
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
corne...@acorns.com.au wrote:
No, the process never starts. We did a new release from another PC
(which we expect to be identical) and the process does not get stuck and
everything works as expected. doh :(
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Wallace Turner
wallace.tur...@gmail.com wrote:
is the process you're starting still running ie can u see it in task
manager
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
corne...@acorns.com.au wrote:
Hi,
I have a website that is running some background tasks as separate
executables with Process.Start.
This has been working like this for a long time. However recently on
one of the servers this stopped working and the Process.Start call blocks
without ever returning.
There is no exception there is nothing in the event logs.
The user running the app pool has rights to the folder and can
execute the process correctly (i tried this with Run As on behalf of the
app pool user and it works).
Thoughts? I really didn't feel like doing some production debugging
on Saturday night ... so maybe someone has a brilliant idea.
Regarding code, it's just the most basic Process.Start possible:
var processStartInfo = new ProcessStartInfo(Executable, arguments)
{
CreateNoWindow = true,
WorkingDirectory = Folder,
UseShellExecute = true,
};
var process = new Process
{
StartInfo = processStartInfo,
EnableRaisingEvents = true
};
process.Exited += process_Exited;
process.Start();
Thanks,
Corneliu.
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
Greg (H), sometime earlier this year I finally reached a point where I can create a WPF app at roughly the same speed as a WinForms app. It took years to find the right patterns, use command routing wisely, overcome the countless quirks, and finally become proficient at coding UIs in XAML by hand. I have loads of pre-baked WPF code now to help me write new apps faster. I have found that WPF is only superior if you need a really rich UI with elastic layout, shading, opacity, resizing and animations. Otherwise, WinForms are robust and familiar, the designer is fabulous and the DataGridView control is a dream compared to the tangled nightmare of the WPF DataGrid -- Greg (K) On 11 September 2013 00:51, Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.comwrote: Hi Greg, Basic HTML will be simple CRUD table maintenance and reports. Rich interaction, not in the initial plan. Winforms - Yes at this stage that is what I am thinking, the app needs to do some extensive custom graphics which at this stage I intend to build up with GDI+ as it is what I have used before, but I am open to suggestions. I may go with WPF but that is not the way I am thinking just now. As the client wants to keep it cheap and fast. I like to look at job trends to see where the industry is going and WPF/Silverlight has not been happy for 2 years: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=wpf%2Csilverlightl=silverlight Regards Greg (H) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: At this point I am working on a new app, it will have an HTML web site for basic stuff and a downloadable win forms app for the intensive stuff, I would much rather do it with SL but MS has so upset the SL story that it is just not going to happen! Oh boy, another scary response. Will the html basic stuff have any kind of rich interaction? Also, you really mean WinForms and not WPF? Greg (K)
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
I think you'll be surprised how far HTML5 has come along. Between the canvas tag, SVG and WebGL, I struggle to think what your graphics-intensive app may do that those technologies can't do effectively. They've all been supported by Chrome, Firefox, Opera and Safari for many versions now, and all largely supported in IE9+ except WebGL which is coming in IE11. Some links - http://www.chromeexperiments.com/ http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ http://www.chartjs.org/ On 11 September 2013 09:04, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Greg (H), sometime earlier this year I finally reached a point where I can create a WPF app at roughly the same speed as a WinForms app. It took years to find the right patterns, use command routing wisely, overcome the countless quirks, and finally become proficient at coding UIs in XAML by hand. I have loads of pre-baked WPF code now to help me write new apps faster. I have found that WPF is only superior if you need a really rich UI with elastic layout, shading, opacity, resizing and animations. Otherwise, WinForms are robust and familiar, the designer is fabulous and the DataGridView control is a dream compared to the tangled nightmare of the WPF DataGrid -- Greg (K) On 11 September 2013 00:51, Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com wrote: Hi Greg, Basic HTML will be simple CRUD table maintenance and reports. Rich interaction, not in the initial plan. Winforms - Yes at this stage that is what I am thinking, the app needs to do some extensive custom graphics which at this stage I intend to build up with GDI+ as it is what I have used before, but I am open to suggestions. I may go with WPF but that is not the way I am thinking just now. As the client wants to keep it cheap and fast. I like to look at job trends to see where the industry is going and WPF/Silverlight has not been happy for 2 years: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=wpf%2Csilverlightl=silverlight Regards Greg (H) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: At this point I am working on a new app, it will have an HTML web site for basic stuff and a downloadable win forms app for the intensive stuff, I would much rather do it with SL but MS has so upset the SL story that it is just not going to happen! Oh boy, another scary response. Will the html basic stuff have any kind of rich interaction? Also, you really mean WinForms and not WPF? Greg (K)
Re: Mocking up a designer surface
Yeah the canvas tag has taken everything you get inside XAML and moved two steps backwards and if you really formulate enough discipline and pain you get to play the game of I'm thinking of an animation framework, it has a vowel in it and hopefully all of your team can learn and write code at the same time with the pressure of delivery I'm still using Silverlight/WPF today with new projects and i keep telling people that as long as Windows XP - Windows 8 exists there is no real issue at hand other than you won't get a new feature added to the product. I will say this when we were pushing out Silverlight 4 out the door it was at that point we were struggling to come up with features that you needed vs we could do to make the world better. In that the core of Silverlight was pretty much baked and it was really down to making features that did things differently, whereby what else can we do to encroach on WPF/WinForms tightly held territory. So you really aren't getting much in the way of new even if Silverlight was still pumping out features today, it would have likely centred around 3D / GPU specifics and probably would have shifted gear from being a 9month release cycle back to say an 18month one with all of the other product(s). We could argue that we needed to clean house with Silverlight whereby optimise / bug fix ensure WPF and Silverlight reach feature parity in terms of execution with one another but you have that today with Windows 8 as that's actually Silverlight 7 in a way... its realistically teh answer you wanted but not ready to move into (Windows 8 is like those ghost cities in China, its all built and has stuff ready to build out a society with ...but people just aren't moving in yet). I think it's a two part problem firstly some of you guys drip feed off Microsoft way to much to the point where you're not thinking for yourselves at times ( Java etc community often give two sh***ts what Oracle/Sun were doing if they saw something they like they'd adopt but it was never a race to rise with their tide - Microsoft its always the same, its a conditioned response that often made us Product Managers giggle at how easy it was to manipulate you :D). If you write code today using a variety of techniques you can easily make applications work with WPF/Silverlight and even Windows 8 (XAML is a re-usable specification) and you can also bring that into other solutions like Mono/Unity3D ..all the pieces are there but for some unless Visual Studio has the option in the menu bar folks just go ahh f**k that, to hard*.. The whole Silverlight vs HTML5/JS bullsh*t is really the wrong argument at play and it's been filled with a lot of redudant arguments around future proofing or protecting IP. For instance majority of code written today is disposable code and is unlikely to be supported post a 5-yr timeframe before someone turns and goes File -- New especially given how fluid and volatile the device market is shaping up to becoming (mixed with indecision from brands like Adobe, Microsoft, Google, Apple etc). Secondly when you get to he heart of the discussion the ask is I want breadth deployment but with depth features and often HTML5 becomes this position you retreat back to because it seems to tick off all the breadth checklists and hints at some of the depth - but nevery really follows through on the promise. It also on paper tells the story about developer adoption (resource allocation and costs) meaning you can hire any graduate today to write HTML/JS/CSS code (i use that word with contempt) because its a lazy concept that doesn't require a lot of mental muscle around OOP or Tooling know how. You will however watch your development allocation get bogged into stupid scenarios like why won't this f**king div tag centre which is then followed by some smart ass list-apart-clone-of-the-Web2.0 hipster crowd given you a lecture on why CSS rox and you just don't understand its subtle forms of chromosome deficiencies ... If you manage to retain your human capital past that point you then get into the space of who's framework has the biggest d***k posturing in around trying to get all your developer base to ride with your JS selection tide (which they'll likely beg and plea for a concept like ECMA6+ - TypeScript way of doing things because then they aren't arguing over the merits of Prototype vs Class. Assuming you can retain discipline in the ranks (which all research from 2007-2009 on the word AJAX points to yeah this shit is broken, you can execute but its code you never want to open up again past shipping) you then still have to come up with some way to emulate what you'd typically expect to see in Native Experiences like Touch or Windows moving around in Z space - sure you have zIndex and sure you can do drag and drop but oh yeah you can't do data packet / socket without having to go through some hacky JSON form of retardation or react until AFTER (not during) the data comes into place... hence why most
Telstra Cable 3.0
Hi Folks, Have any of you changed to using the cable 3.0 product from Telstra? We get about 30 meg download speed on our cable now but it claims to potentially make it a lot quicker. It used to not be available in our area. When I logged onto the bigpond site the other day, it said it was now available and gave me a phone number to call. True to form, the number that Telstra linked to was answered by someone that had no clue at all about the product. 40 minutes later she still couldn't answer: * It is available? * How fast is it? * What does it cost? Those didn't seem like rocket science but she couldn't answer them. Today I've had a call from another guy that tells me that the only way you can actually get the faster service is to change the business accounts across to being residential accounts, as the business accounts are still on their legacy billing system where the residential accounts are on their Siebel system. Apparently, only residential customers can get the faster speeds, not business customers. Again, he couldn't explain how that made any sense or why it was that way, except that the product was only available on the new billing system. I really wish these clowns had some serious competition. But has anyone made the move? I'd like to hear how you found it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low CEO and Principal Mentor SQL Down Under SQL Server MVP and Microsoft Regional Director 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com
Re: Telstra Cable 3.0
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: Have any of you changed to using the cable 3.0 product from Telstra? ** [ ... ] **But has anyone made the move? I’d like to hear how you found it. I know a number of people on Telstra's DOCSIS 3.0 product and it does indeed do as it says on the tin. 100mbps, very low latency, and priced keenly. David.
RE: Telstra Cable 3.0
Hi David, Any thoughts on why they’d say it can only be a residential account, not a business account? Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 1:19 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Telstra Cable 3.0 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:48 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com mailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: Have any of you changed to using the cable 3.0 product from Telstra? [ ... ] But has anyone made the move? I’d like to hear how you found it. I know a number of people on Telstra's DOCSIS 3.0 product and it does indeed do as it says on the tin. 100mbps, very low latency, and priced keenly. David.
Re: Telstra Cable 3.0
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: Any thoughts on why they’d say it can only be a residential account, not a business account? Yes, it is just market segmentation so they don't cannibalise their EAS, Ethernet Line, etc products. The BigPond product probably has traffic policing on it and so on as it is resi-grade IP transit - but you probably won't care unless isohunt.com is your core business. Support on the cable service will probably be pretty shit offshore, not like calling Telstra Internet Direct. BTW; I've tried to convince them to install a DOCSIS service at our offices before with no luck. I just thought though - I wonder if you could order Foxtel business, then just get them to post you out a modem and activate the BigPond IP service over that? The issue I had was that I would have been found out during the on-site installation when they had to pull coax up from the MDF. :) David.
RE: Telstra Cable 3.0
I got the suggestion from a few people to speak to the LiveChat people as they are based out of Australia, unlike the phone people, and that they generally seem to have a clue. I spoke to Justin who told me that he’d never seen customers using cable services for business. He thought only ADSL was for business sigh I suspect it might be Optus time, as a number of people seem happy with their DOCSIS 3 system. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 1:47 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Telstra Cable 3.0 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:24 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom mailto:g...@greglow.com g...@greglow.com wrote: Any thoughts on why they’d say it can only be a residential account, not a business account? Yes, it is just market segmentation so they don't cannibalise their EAS, Ethernet Line, etc products. The BigPond product probably has traffic policing on it and so on as it is resi-grade IP transit - but you probably won't care unless http://isohunt.com isohunt.com is your core business. Support on the cable service will probably be pretty shit offshore, not like calling Telstra Internet Direct. BTW; I've tried to convince them to install a DOCSIS service at our offices before with no luck. I just thought though - I wonder if you could order Foxtel business, then just get them to post you out a modem and activate the BigPond IP service over that? The issue I had was that I would have been found out during the on-site installation when they had to pull coax up from the MDF. :) David.
RE: TCP Messages to Server
Anthony / David, Thanks, seems to work well on shared hosting using port 80. The following seems to be the minimum construct for a raw TCP message to become a HTTP request - Message = GET /default.aspx?Msg=ddrrggffdd HTTP/1.1 vbCrLf Host: www.mugachino.com vbCrLf vbCrLf The server returned the following - HTTP/1.1 200 OK Cache-Control: private Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.0 X-AspNet-Version: 4.0.30319 X-Powered-By: ASP.NET Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 05:24:15 GMT Content-Length: 1338 Strangely the HTML section did not come through in the NetworkStream ?? My objective is achieved (I don’t need the reply and only want to pass the query string) but it would be good to know what happened to the html portion. Regards, From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 8:05 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server Yes it is..use firebug or jsfiddler to get a standard template(with headers) you could use. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 7:29 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server Actually if I could turn it into a http request with a query string that would make the web code simple. Is it just a matter of having http headers? The modem data does attached to a web site. Hosting terms seem to allow a service as long as it integral to the site, which it is. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 7:20 PM To: 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: TCP Messages to Server You probably could if you use assumed port 80and got your modem to send a simulated page get with the headers From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013 6:31 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: TCP Messages to Server Not possible on a shared web hosting service as I doubt they'll permit you to run any sort of service and may be locked down a lot further depending on how switched on the provider is. VPS will do it no dramas. You'll need to write some sort of service to bind to an external IP and port. Piece of piss and heaps of code around to start from. David. David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, I want to receive raw TCP messages from an industrial device (that has an in-built modem) at a shared web hosting service, is this possible? The modem requires an IP address and port number to send the messages to. I have received TCP messages before on a PC connected to the internet using TcpListener(My Static IP, port number) by opening that port number on the router but can it be done with a hosting service (pref shared hosting) instead? I imagine an IP would be necessary to attach to the hosting address but would this work given the Listener must address a port number? If not on shared hosting would a VPS do this? (Haven’t used one before.) Any pointers greatly appreciated. Regards .. Paul .. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6651 - Release Date: 09/09/13 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6651 - Release Date: 09/09/13
