RE: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 4:55 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD After reading some technical stuff on SSDs several weeks ago and how they work and wear-levelling and the like I became a bit worried and moved the swap file to a HDD in an attempt to cut down the writes. It's actually a bit worrying how SSDs work when you look into them. Whilst the idea of a really fast swap file is nice, the implementation of SSD's suggest that its a bad combo. Unless you do something like use a dedicated SSD for the swap drive, and eat the cost when it dies. I'm still a bit wary about the integrity of 'dirty' data on the swap file getting written thru to a magnetic drive. Thoughts? Just about every laptop sold today is SSD only – no option to put the swap file on a mechanical drive, and there doesn’t seem to be widespread reports of mass failure of laptop drives. As I mentioned in the previous post (and you can check on the main tech forums like AnandTech etc.), current generation SSDs seem capable of many terabytes of writes. Cheers Ken
Re: [OT] Weird symptoms and SSD
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:55 PM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst the idea of a really fast swap file is nice, the implementation of SSD's suggest that its a bad combo. Unless you do something like use a dedicated SSD for the swap drive, and eat the cost when it dies. I'm still a bit wary about the integrity of 'dirty' data on the swap file getting written thru to a magnetic drive. Thoughts? In practical terms - how much does your machine swap these days anyway? If you have a good dev lappy you probably have 8-16 GB of RAM. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
Re: What would you ask Satya?
Why have you forsaken us? Do you require more sacrifices to be pleased with us? Seriously though, can we change the name of Legacy apps to something a little less negative? Just because we are still writing non Windows 8 Store apps doesn't make them Legacy. Then again, maybe hes seen my code? ;) thanks, Stephen On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: If you had an opportunity to ask Satya Nadella a question in front of several thousand developers, what would you ask him?
What would you ask Satya?
If you had an opportunity to ask Satya Nadella a question in front of several thousand developers, what would you ask him?
RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment?
Hey AB – I haven’t flown with them yet, but I’ve worn them for several hours at a time in a noisy environment with no discomfort. Coming home from the US later this week will be a good test. Very impressed so far. One thing I like about them is that they still allow you to listen to your audio even when the battery is drained (or the active noise cancelling is off). I don’t know how long the rechargeable battery lasts yet, and it’s not replaceable mid-flight, so that’s another concern. Cheers From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Borton Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 1:55 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Hey Coatsy, I’ve been using the QC15’s for a few years and have loved them. I’ve looked at the QC20’s a few times wondering if I should upgrade (smaller to carry around) but have not made the move. Have you found the transition from the 15’s (over the ear) to the 20’s (in ear) has been OK? Are the comfortable? Cheers Anthony Borton Senior ALM Trainer/Consultant Visual Studio ALM MVP Enhance ALM Pty Ltd From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 5:52 AM To: g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com; ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the new Officehttp://office.com/preview From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Jorke Odolphi Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at helping you test for your situation, especially at that price tag. I had the guy do loud sniffles for me so I could see if it worked for that… From: Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.aumailto:kirst...@jobtalk.com.au Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Date: Sunday, 23 March 2014 1:20 pm To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Hi All So that I can concentrate better, I am trying to filter out the mouse clicking sound from person at the desk next to me. Has anyone any tech recommendations on how to do this? Thanks Kirsten
RE: What would you ask Satya?
Nice - I like. Keep 'em coming. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 8:02 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: What would you ask Satya? Why have you forsaken us? Do you require more sacrifices to be pleased with us? Seriously though, can we change the name of Legacy apps to something a little less negative? Just because we are still writing non Windows 8 Store apps doesn't make them Legacy. Then again, maybe hes seen my code? ;) thanks, Stephen On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.commailto:andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: If you had an opportunity to ask Satya Nadella a question in front of several thousand developers, what would you ask him?
RE: What would you ask Satya?
Given his engineering background, I'd love to hear his thoughts on building products that actually solve problems. One of the real challenges in recent years seems to be the endless focus on shiny new things that make good 7 minute demos rather than working on existing products until they solve real problems. So many new features look promising but the teams then seem to lose interest in doing the rest of the work to make them truly functional. (That doesn't apply to all teams but it seems to be a common affliction). I suppose what I'm getting at is that rather than chasing features, is there an interest in chasing the ability to solve problems end-to-end? Also, has he moved past wanting to build products to only wanting to build services? What balance is he aiming for? Does he see the company building software for sale five years from now or will everything be service-based? Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 1:57 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: What would you ask Satya? If you had an opportunity to ask Satya Nadella a question in front of several thousand developers, what would you ask him?
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Won't someone please think of the bandwidth! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: man I wished I could send in colour. But I grew up in the 70's and we couldn't afford it. On 25 March 2014 18:58, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Like this. Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Id: ozDotNet ozdotnet.ozdotnet.com*List-Unsubscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=unsubscribe* List-Archive: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozdotnet List-Post: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Help: mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=subscribe On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, A Campbell campbel...@gmail.comwrote: Kind Regards, Andrew Campbell MB: 0409 684 443 HM: 08 9478 1848 EM: campbel...@gmail.com On 25 March 2014 03:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom *Sent:* Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Jorke Odolphi *Sent:* Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at helping you test for your situation, especially at that price tag. I had the guy do loud sniffles for me so I could see if it worked for that… *From: *Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au *Reply-To: *ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Date: *Sunday, 23 March 2014 1:20 pm *To: *ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject: *[OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Hi All So that I can concentrate better, I am trying to filter out the mouse clicking sound from person at the desk next to me. Has anyone any tech recommendations on how to do this? Thanks Kirsten -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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hmmm your ideas intrigue me, tell me is there a newsletter that i may unsubscribe from for more information :D --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:42 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Won't someone please think of the bandwidth! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.comwrote: man I wished I could send in colour. But I grew up in the 70's and we couldn't afford it. On 25 March 2014 18:58, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Like this. Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Id: ozDotNet ozdotnet.ozdotnet.com*List-Unsubscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=unsubscribe* List-Archive: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozdotnet List-Post: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Help: mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=subscribe On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, A Campbell campbel...@gmail.comwrote: Kind Regards, Andrew Campbell MB: 0409 684 443 HM: 08 9478 1848 EM: campbel...@gmail.com On 25 March 2014 03:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom *Sent:* Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Jorke Odolphi *Sent:* Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at helping you test for your situation, especially at that price tag. I had the guy do loud sniffles for me so I could see if it worked for that… *From: *Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au *Reply-To: *ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Date: *Sunday, 23 March 2014 1:20 pm *To: *ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com *Subject: *[OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? Hi All So that I can concentrate better, I am trying to filter out the mouse clicking sound from person at the desk next to me. Has anyone any tech recommendations on how to do this? Thanks Kirsten -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
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Give the guy a break. Poor bugger was probably reading his email through Outlook 2013 at anything less than full screen @ 1080p and didn’t notice any of the footer under all the unnecessary metro-fied chrome and crap like non-removable/shrinkable viewing pane header. Which brings me to my question for Satya – is there any commitment left at all to the desktop experience or are they firmly focused spending the foreseeable future defiling their entire consumer product range and crapping big clumsy monotone regions where the non-tablet-obsessed world eats? From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:43 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: unsubscribe Won't someone please think of the bandwidth! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.commailto:preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: man I wished I could send in colour. But I grew up in the 70's and we couldn't afford it. On 25 March 2014 18:58, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: Like this. Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Id: ozDotNet ozdotnet.ozdotnet.comhttp://ozdotnet.ozdotnet.com List-Unsubscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozdotnet List-Post: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Help: mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=subscribe On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, A Campbell campbel...@gmail.commailto:campbel...@gmail.com wrote: Kind Regards, Andrew Campbell MB: 0409 684 443tel:0409%20684%20443 HM: 08 9478 1848tel:08%209478%201848 EM: campbel...@gmail.commailto:campbel...@gmail.com On 25 March 2014 03:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.commailto:andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993tel:%2B61%20%28416%29%20134%20993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400tel:%2B61%20%282%29%209870%202400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the new Officehttp://office.com/preview From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775tel:%281300%20775%20775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Jorke Odolphi Sent: Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at
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I wasn't really being nasty, its more - teach a guy to fish, rather than give him a fish. Besides it'd need the admin to unsub him, if you don't use self-serve. (and I did it by 'show headers' - I don't think it shows in the footer :) Oh yes. For amusement value. http://www.humournet.com/collage.archives/collage290.txt On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Nathan Chere nathan.ch...@saiglobal.comwrote: Give the guy a break. Poor bugger was probably reading his email through Outlook 2013 at anything less than full screen @ 1080p and didn’t notice any of the footer under all the unnecessary metro-fied chrome and crap like non-removable/shrinkable viewing pane header. Which brings me to my question for Satya – is there any commitment left at all to the desktop experience or are they firmly focused spending the foreseeable future defiling their entire consumer product range and crapping big clumsy monotone regions where the non-tablet-obsessed world eats? *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 March 2014 10:43 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: unsubscribe Won't someone please think of the bandwidth! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: man I wished I could send in colour. But I grew up in the 70's and we couldn't afford it. On 25 March 2014 18:58, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: Like this. Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Id: ozDotNet ozdotnet.ozdotnet.com *List-Unsubscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet,* * mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=unsubscribe* List-Archive: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozdotnet List-Post: mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com List-Help: mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozdotnet, mailto:ozdotnet-requ...@ozdotnet.com?subject=subscribe On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, A Campbell campbel...@gmail.com wrote: Kind Regards, Andrew Campbell MB: 0409 684 443 HM: 08 9478 1848 EM: campbel...@gmail.com On 25 March 2014 03:52, Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Bose++ I’ve had the over ear type for years (QC2, followed by QC15) and have just bought a pair of the in-ear QC20. I can’t recommend either of these options highly enough. While they’re not cheap, they are awesome. This week I’m cutting code in a room with up to 10 people having interesting conversations about things which would usually distract me. I can’t hear them at all when I’m wearing these, especially if I have music playing as well. Do it now, you won’t regret it. Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *Sent from the **new Office* http://office.com/preview *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom *Sent:* Sunday, 23 March 2014 4:27 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? +1 for the Bose gear. I wear them all the time on long flights and love them but have also used them in other environments and they are great. The noise reduction quality is amazing. +1 also to the idea of drowning out part of the other noise. While they work well without anything even plugged in, clearly you’ll lose the other distractions better if you have sounds of your own. For the same reason, I often will have the TV, or music, etc. on when I’m home alone working just to provide background noise. Otherwise, every little sound seems to be distracting. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Jorke Odolphi *Sent:* Monday, 24 March 2014 9:28 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Noise cancelling earphones for a quiet programming environment? http://worldwide.bose.com/axa/en_au/web/quietcomfort_20i/page.html I have a set of these – there is an ‘active’ mode that basically reduces people talking to sounding like a faint version of the “peanuts teacher (I hope that’s not too old a reference for people…) I can vouch it works amazingly well in an open office, when I have them on ppl have to wave at me to get attention – I have a mechanical keyboard and I can’t hear that either – YMMV of course – if you go to the bose store they’re pretty good at
RE: What would you ask Satya?
Thanks Greg - I particularly like the services question. Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 ∙ Mob +61 (416) 134 993 ∙ Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 ∙ http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat Sent from the new Officehttp://office.com/preview From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014 2:56 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: What would you ask Satya? Given his engineering background, I'd love to hear his thoughts on building products that actually solve problems. One of the real challenges in recent years seems to be the endless focus on shiny new things that make good 7 minute demos rather than working on existing products until they solve real problems. So many new features look promising but the teams then seem to lose interest in doing the rest of the work to make them truly functional. (That doesn't apply to all teams but it seems to be a common affliction). I suppose what I'm getting at is that rather than chasing features, is there an interest in chasing the ability to solve problems end-to-end? Also, has he moved past wanting to build products to only wanting to build services? What balance is he aiming for? Does he see the company building software for sale five years from now or will everything be service-based? Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Coates (DPE AUSTRALIA) Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 1:57 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: What would you ask Satya? If you had an opportunity to ask Satya Nadella a question in front of several thousand developers, what would you ask him?
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:28 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: unsubscribe
Or to put it another way, going back to Outlook 2003 is a purely positive
experience and I can’t think of a single thing where I’ve thought “gee I really
miss how they improved {0}”.
I suppose this one of those things where everyone’s use cases are different.
However I personally have found:
a) New Unicode PST/OST files that support 2GB files
b) Ability to connect to 1 Exchange server concurrently
c) Free/Busy information (for meeting scheduling)
d) OneNote integration
e) Auto-configuration
f) Single “To-Do” list of tasks and meetings
To be useful things that I’d miss if I had to go back to Outlook 2003. Item (b)
particularly
Ditto across the board for Office – some of the theming ribbon options are
handy in Word but that’s about it. Excel is a perfect example of how the ribbon
UI is a hammer and not all Office apps are nails – menu/toolbar worked much
better, addins/macros/etc were much simpler easier pre-Excel 2007, and I still
find it hard to comprehend the lack of core productivity improvements, like how
hack-y it feels to do relatively simple things like autocomplete dropdown lists
compared to OpenOffice. I guess they fixed some of the teething problems with
the ribbon UI between 2007 and 2010?
Again, I suppose it depends on your use cases. But I think in almost any area
there are improvements – take Reviewing for example – Compare Versions to
produce marked up documents, Ability to reply in-line to comments etc. are all
great tools.
Cheers
Ken
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*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere
*Sent:* Wednesday, 26 March 2014 12:28 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* RE: unsubscribe
Or to put it another way, going back to Outlook 2003 is a purely positive
experience and I can’t think of a single thing where I’ve thought “gee I
really miss how they improved {0}”.
I suppose this one of those things where everyone’s use cases are
different. However I personally have found:
a) New Unicode PST/OST files that support 2GB files
The problem didn't seem to be that, just that when they did get big they
(seemed) more prone to corruption, typically from forcibly closing Outlook.
b) Ability to connect to 1 Exchange server concurrently
that's a tick
c) Free/Busy information (for meeting scheduling)
Sounds good, but I don't find people using it - they schedule meetings
willy nilly over existing.
d) OneNote integration
Hmm, what's oneNote? :^)
e) Auto-configuration
Love it. And it worked on Outlook on Mac in the version before Windows.
f) Single “To-Do” list of tasks and meetings
To be useful things that I’d miss if I had to go back to Outlook 2003.
Item (b) particularly
Ditto across the board for Office – some of the theming ribbon options are
handy in Word but that’s about it. Excel is a perfect example of how the
ribbon UI is a hammer and not all Office apps are nails – menu/toolbar
worked much better, addins/macros/etc were much simpler easier pre-Excel
2007, and I still find it hard to comprehend the lack of core productivity
improvements, like how hack-y it feels to do relatively simple things like
autocomplete dropdown lists compared to OpenOffice. I guess they fixed some
of the teething problems with the ribbon UI between 2007 and 2010?
Again, I suppose it depends on your use cases. But I think in almost any
area there are improvements – take Reviewing for example – Compare Versions
to produce marked up documents, Ability to reply in-line to comments etc.
are all great tools.
I'd make any team submit rigorous business cases for UI changes. As an
enduser, I don't like UI changes for giving a product a new or fresh look.
I'm impressed with Microsoft's integration with Android in Exchange.
--
Meski
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you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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Speaking of Outlook issues, I hope all of you Outlook users realise that whenever Outlook auto-replaces your smilies it looks like garbage Latin glyphs on every other mail user agent in the universe. Apparently it is replacing your smilies with spans of wingdings. It took me ages to figure out where these spurious J's were coming from: On 26 March 2014 12:28, Nathan Chere nathan.ch...@saiglobal.com wrote: Isn't that what this whole mailing list is all about J To those of you who have noticed that I'm using Gmail, yes I know Gmail isn't perfect either, but in the Unicode age there is no excuse for dingbat fonts. Even a text/plain email can contain smilies if encoded with a Unicode charset (try U+263A). -- Thomas Koster
