Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread David Connors
On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 10:39 am, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Maybe David's idea is worth a try, but how do I clone the metal Win2016 DC
> into a VM?
>
>> We bought a really high end Lenovo workstation laptop to run our lab ...
Same issue ... Windows server barely runs on it. No driver support. Etc.
Anyway just put win10 on it and run the lab VMS in hyper v.  No dramas.
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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread Greg Keogh
I just visited the shop (PLE) and they tell me there is no replacement NUC
in their catalogue that runs anything but Windows10.

There is a 10% penalty for a return on the $657 NUC i3 with 16GB RAM and
480GB SSD (is that legal?)

So I'm stuck with a brand new PC that is of absolutely no use in the home
or office.

Maybe David's idea is worth a try, but how do I clone the metal Win2016 DC
into a VM?


*Greg K*

>


Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> So just run those workloads on win10 hyper v?
>

Well, maybe! It's a possibility. I'm dropping into the shop this morning to
talk about the issue, so I might swap to a Gen9 that runs more OSs.

I remain stonkered that they would produce a box that *ONLY* runs Windows
10. Not even Linux or another other flavour of Windows.

*GK*


Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread David Connors
On Sat, 8 May 2021 at 8:57 am, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Just put windows 10 on it. Enable hyper v and run server in a VM.
>>
>
> I was already one level deep. The Win2016 DC hosts a Hyper-V VM running
> Win2019 with SQL2019 and IIS -- *Greg*
>

So just run those workloads on win10 hyper v?

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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> Just put windows 10 on it. Enable hyper v and run server in a VM.
>

I was already one level deep. The Win2016 DC hosts a Hyper-V VM running
Win2019 with SQL2019 and IIS -- *Greg*


Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread David Connors
Just put windows 10 on it. Enable hyper v and run server in a VM.

On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 7:01 pm, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> TGIF Folks, my Domain Controller under the desk is running on a 12 year
> old box with 3 metal drives and whirring fans. I decided last weekend to
> replace it with something modern, small and quiet. My local shop was
> selling various NUCs which look pretty cool and Sci-Fi, so I bought a
> NUC10i3 with 16GB RAM. It's low-end, but fine for the home dev network. Now
> comes the trap hidden in the fine-print...
>
> *Windows 2016 server will not install on the box, nor can it be cloned via
> R-Drive.*
>
> This is actually stated in some Intel product PDFs, but I never thought of
> looking, as it's just Windows and a chipset (I thought!). Apparently it's
> to do with drivers, and some people have apparently found a workaround by
> installing unsigned drivers, but I don't want to do that. Maybe I'll ring
> the shop and negotiate a swap to a NUC9 or 8 which supports servers.
>
> I just mention this in case anyone else falls into the lazy trap.
>
> Any suggestions for the smallest, quietest, cheapest box I can get as a
> low-end server?
>
> *Greg*
>
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Re: [OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread Stephen Price
I've owned (and recpmmended) NUCs for some years. Until I had a few old ones 
fail due to their fans. Replacement parts are like $12 but very hard to find 
the right part. I've moved away from them for now, having  $1000 computer fail 
due to a $12 fan is annoying. I see it as its weak link.
Don't get me wrong their size and power is awesome, just be aware of the fan.

There are some slightly more powerful nucs where the whole machine is 
essentially a daughter board. I've not tried one of those yet.

Ie the Intel NUC 9 Extreme Kit NUC9i9QNX Ghost Canyon Barebone Gaming Mini PC

Looks like it has a much better looking fan on it. Anyone used one of these?

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Subject: [OT] Intel NUCs

TGIF Folks, my Domain Controller under the desk is running on a 12 year old box 
with 3 metal drives and whirring fans. I decided last weekend to replace it 
with something modern, small and quiet. My local shop was selling various NUCs 
which look pretty cool and Sci-Fi, so I bought a NUC10i3 with 16GB RAM. It's 
low-end, but fine for the home dev network. Now comes the trap hidden in the 
fine-print...

Windows 2016 server will not install on the box, nor can it be cloned via 
R-Drive.

This is actually stated in some Intel product PDFs, but I never thought of 
looking, as it's just Windows and a chipset (I thought!). Apparently it's to do 
with drivers, and some people have apparently found a workaround by installing 
unsigned drivers, but I don't want to do that. Maybe I'll ring the shop and 
negotiate a swap to a NUC9 or 8 which supports servers.

I just mention this in case anyone else falls into the lazy trap.

Any suggestions for the smallest, quietest, cheapest box I can get as a low-end 
server?

Greg


[OT] Intel NUCs

2021-05-07 Thread Greg Keogh
TGIF Folks, my Domain Controller under the desk is running on a 12 year old
box with 3 metal drives and whirring fans. I decided last weekend to
replace it with something modern, small and quiet. My local shop was
selling various NUCs which look pretty cool and Sci-Fi, so I bought a
NUC10i3 with 16GB RAM. It's low-end, but fine for the home dev network. Now
comes the trap hidden in the fine-print...

*Windows 2016 server will not install on the box, nor can it be cloned via
R-Drive.*

This is actually stated in some Intel product PDFs, but I never thought of
looking, as it's just Windows and a chipset (I thought!). Apparently it's
to do with drivers, and some people have apparently found a workaround by
installing unsigned drivers, but I don't want to do that. Maybe I'll ring
the shop and negotiate a swap to a NUC9 or 8 which supports servers.

I just mention this in case anyone else falls into the lazy trap.

Any suggestions for the smallest, quietest, cheapest box I can get as a
low-end server?

*Greg*