Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-13 Thread Stephen Price 
Nice plan that.

A bursty plan might solve the issue with using a VM as a dev machine. You log 
into them for 8 hours or so a day and the rest of the time it's idle. You can 
shut them down in an automated fashion but the times never seem to match up 
with when you need them, or the scripts are fragile. Broke my last attempt and 
gave up trying to work out why it wasn't working right (and they change stuff 
all the time making the scripts more fragile).

Build up your bursty credit while you sleep and then use it when you need it. 
Yes please!


Will check this out for my web servers etc, I always go the smallest and wish 
there were smaller ones.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf 
of Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2017 9:22:24 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

New B-series machines are out now (burstable CPU use): 
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-b-series-our-new-burstable-vm-size/
8-12 bucks US depending on Linux/Windows.

Oh great! One day before I do my huge migration they release a VM plan which is 
probably better for me. Oh well, I'll wait a month or so and see if there are 
performance stats on my A0 that will suggest if a B0 is better, then I can 
change plans I guess -- GK

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-12 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> New B-series machines are out now (burstable CPU use):
> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-b-
> series-our-new-burstable-vm-size/
> 8-12 bucks US depending on Linux/Windows.
>

Oh great! One day before I do my huge migration they release a VM plan
which is probably better for me. Oh well, I'll wait a month or so and see
if there are performance stats on my A0 that will suggest if a B0 is
better, then I can change plans I guess -- *GK*

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-12 Thread David Connors 
New B-series machines are out now (burstable CPU use):
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-b-series-our-new-burstable-vm-size/


8-12 bucks US depending on Linux/Windows.

David.


On Wed, 13 Sep 2017 at 10:21 mike smith  wrote:

> Seem to recall if you're moving 'serious' stuff, you should set TTL really
> short a bit before you actually do it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> Folks, the wandering IP forced me to make the decision to get the last
>> domain off my server. I made an A0 $22/month Azure VM, copied up all my
>> files, configured IIS, installed the cert, set permissions, made users and
>> groups, got FTP working, got WCF working, changed the DNS, etc etc etc
>> until my fingers bled, but it seems to be working nicely now.
>>
>> I was really worried for several hours because the site was visible from
>> some places (Bitbucket) but unresolved for others (BlogSpot), which didn't
>> make sense and I thought I'd stuffed something up. Then by last night it
>> all came good, which I suppose was caused by a delay in the DNS
>> propagating. I've noticed it usually takes about an hour for DNS changes to
>> propagate, but it was about 24 hours this time.
>>
>> So I'm no longer hosting anything public. Thanks heavens!
>>
>> *GK*
>>
>> On 13 September 2017 at 08:31, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:07 AM, David Connors 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:

> I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight
> without any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.
>

 It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?


> It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a
> "business" requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some
> business plan as an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. 
> Exetel
> seems to provide a free fixed IP for home accounts.
>

 It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a
 fixed IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in
 South Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.


>>>
>>> iinet 'give' me one for somewhere between 2-3$ a month on top of my
>>> regular (non biz) plan
>>>
>>>
 --
 David Connors
 da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Meski
>>>
>>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>
>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
-- 
David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-12 Thread mike smith 
Seem to recall if you're moving 'serious' stuff, you should set TTL really
short a bit before you actually do it.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, the wandering IP forced me to make the decision to get the last
> domain off my server. I made an A0 $22/month Azure VM, copied up all my
> files, configured IIS, installed the cert, set permissions, made users and
> groups, got FTP working, got WCF working, changed the DNS, etc etc etc
> until my fingers bled, but it seems to be working nicely now.
>
> I was really worried for several hours because the site was visible from
> some places (Bitbucket) but unresolved for others (BlogSpot), which didn't
> make sense and I thought I'd stuffed something up. Then by last night it
> all came good, which I suppose was caused by a delay in the DNS
> propagating. I've noticed it usually takes about an hour for DNS changes to
> propagate, but it was about 24 hours this time.
>
> So I'm no longer hosting anything public. Thanks heavens!
>
> *GK*
>
> On 13 September 2017 at 08:31, mike smith  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:07 AM, David Connors 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>>
 I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight
 without any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.

>>>
>>> It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?
>>>
>>>
 It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business"
 requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some business plan as
 an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide
 a free fixed IP for home accounts.

>>>
>>> It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a fixed
>>> IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in South
>>> Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> iinet 'give' me one for somewhere between 2-3$ a month on top of my
>> regular (non biz) plan
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> David Connors
>>> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Meski
>>
>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>
>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>
>
>


-- 
Meski

 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-12 Thread Greg Keogh 
Folks, the wandering IP forced me to make the decision to get the last
domain off my server. I made an A0 $22/month Azure VM, copied up all my
files, configured IIS, installed the cert, set permissions, made users and
groups, got FTP working, got WCF working, changed the DNS, etc etc etc
until my fingers bled, but it seems to be working nicely now.

I was really worried for several hours because the site was visible from
some places (Bitbucket) but unresolved for others (BlogSpot), which didn't
make sense and I thought I'd stuffed something up. Then by last night it
all came good, which I suppose was caused by a delay in the DNS
propagating. I've noticed it usually takes about an hour for DNS changes to
propagate, but it was about 24 hours this time.

So I'm no longer hosting anything public. Thanks heavens!

*GK*

On 13 September 2017 at 08:31, mike smith  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:07 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>>> I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight
>>> without any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.
>>>
>>
>> It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?
>>
>>
>>> It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business"
>>> requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some business plan as
>>> an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide
>>> a free fixed IP for home accounts.
>>>
>>
>> It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a fixed
>> IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in South
>> Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.
>>
>>
>
> iinet 'give' me one for somewhere between 2-3$ a month on top of my
> regular (non biz) plan
>
>
>> --
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-12 Thread mike smith 
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:07 AM, David Connors  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight without
>> any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.
>>
>
> It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?
>
>
>> It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business"
>> requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some business plan as
>> an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide
>> a free fixed IP for home accounts.
>>
>
> It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a fixed
> IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in South
> Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.
>
>

iinet 'give' me one for somewhere between 2-3$ a month on top of my regular
(non biz) plan


> --
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
>



-- 
Meski

 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv

"Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread David Connors 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 12:53 S B  wrote:

> Welcome to the NBN.. I've had it since 2010 and shits only gotten worse
> not better but because of RSP behaviours
>

I don't blame the RSPs. The NBN's Average Revenue Per User is like 45-50
bucks or something. Fk all room for the poor RSP to move when selling
Internets for 59 or 69 bucks.

The flaw with the NBN is that it was built for abundance and priced for
scarcity.

Also, you know you're on to a shit idea when the government legislates
against competition (then still can't make a decent return out of it).

> --
David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread S B 
NBN = wholesale. They only provide the plumbing so when people say NBN
failure it's scope is only actual physical installation and/or speed to
your POI without CVC constraints (example to give a household 100Mbps
connection costs around $1500 a month so retail providers hedge their bets
and play the airlines overbooking system - let's assume 10x customers
aren't on 24/7 at full speed and buy 1x 100Mbps to feed 10 or so customers
each at $100-140)

NBN != Retail: Retail Service Providers (RSP) are the ones that define the
speed and extras like IP addresses as they are the ones you authenticate
with ..

Problem with the NBN is we lump everything at their feet but ignore the RSP
.. they also play that game aswell "sorry you're getting 10-60% throughput
as your area is congested.. wholesale eh.. "

No .. your connection even in a shitty neighbourhood will actually travel
100 Mbps in full to a POI (point of internet) but from their it's where RSP
and Wholesale collide "you didn't supply me with speed" "I will if you pay
for it??"

So for IP extras etc it's the RSP ..

Side note: if you hate your speeds and want to get out of paying for it.
Complain to the TIO with this specific question "what's the definition of a
fault" .. under Australian Consumer Law a RSP will need to answer that and
it doesn't muddy the waters over "min vs max" as in order to answer that
the ownership is placed on the RSP.

Today there's no actual legislation that covers fibre at all  outside the
ACL. The telecommunications act only covers copper .. and RSP is bound by a
code of conduct or face losing their communication licence but that's
pretty open as well.

ACCC only take action if ACL is broken and at best they recommend
legislation

Aust com own the licenses but not the law

TIO are just a mediator and have no actual power beyond "please"

Welcome to the NBN.. I've had it since 2010 and shits only gotten worse not
better but because of RSP behaviours





On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:07 am, David Connors  wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight without
>> any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.
>>
>
> It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?
>
>
>> It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business"
>> requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some business plan as
>> an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide
>> a free fixed IP for home accounts.
>>
>
> It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a fixed
> IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in South
> Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.
>
> --
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
>
-- 
---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com

Re: Fw: Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> Also consider not using a VM at all. Your life gets much easier when you
> deploy websites and DBs as platform services.
>

*Unfortunately*, one of the web services uses a native DLL which uses the
file system. I'm going to migrate that stuff off my server into the VM with
little change. Then I'll have to install the cert and change the DNS.

*Fortunately*, that legacy suite is being redesigned and rewritten now ...
it's well underway and the end result is planned to be a set of scalable
Azure hosted services and databases. The file system is being replaced with
Blob storage, the 1990s vintage login system is being replaced with Auth0,
a large set of txt config files has been normalised into a SQL DB, and so
on. It's a great project to work on.

*Other Greg*

Fw: Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread 罗格雷格博士 



From: Greg Low <g...@sqldownunder.com>
Date: 11/09/2017 12:03:57 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Post NBN problem
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com

Also consider not using a VM at all. Your life gets much easier when you deploy 
websites and DBs as platform services.


Regards,
 
Greg
 
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On 11/09/2017 10:50:32 AM, David Connors <da...@connors.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 08:17 Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com 
[mailto:gfke...@gmail.com]> wrote:

You can get an Azure VM which will only cost around $15-20 per month. Depends 
on you budget, but you can then install SQL Server Express easily.

I just created my first Azure VM for a few years as an experiment. I couldn't 
find the cheap A plans and I kept getting offered $80/month as the cheapest. 
D'oh you have to click a tiny "show all" link. The cheapest A0 plan is about 
$22/month -- GK

Don't you have MSDN? They give you a couple of hundred a month in free compute. 
 
--

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Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread David Connors 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 at 11:04 Greg Keogh  wrote:

> I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight without
> any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem.
>

It isn't NBN doing that, it is your ISP. Who are you wish?


> It looks like most NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business"
> requirement and to get it they would shove you up to some business plan as
> an excuse to charge you a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide
> a free fixed IP for home accounts.
>

It isn't that much more - even Telstra only charge $10/month for a fixed
IP. Mind you, I'm stuck on their special 'velocity' fibre network in South
Brisbane area so anything else looks cheap to me.

-- 
David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-10 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> Don't you have MSDN? They give you a couple of hundred a month in free
> compute.
>

Yep! I get $200/month free. I'm using about half of that per month at the
moment, so I created a cheap A0 VM which I'm configuring at the moment with
SQL Express and IIS.

I just discovered that my NBN IP silently changed again overnight without
any apparent interruption, so it's an ongoing problem. It looks like most
NBN providers consider a fixed IP to be a "business" requirement and to get
it they would shove you up to some business plan as an excuse to charge you
a lot more for very little. Exetel seems to provide a free fixed IP for
home accounts.

My current plan is to commission the Azure VM as the new host of my domain,
databases and files. My home server will only remain for a while for
in-house development and testing.

*GK*

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk 
>> I have moved 5 domains and web sites into Azure. The only one remaining
hosted at home is used for development and previews, and it has a cert, and
it uses SQL Server databases and the file-system. So moving it all up to
Azure hosting will be frightening technical challenge that I haven't got
the stomach for yet.

You can get an Azure VM which will only cost around $15-20 per month.
Depends on you budget, but you can then install SQL Server Express easily.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> 1. Why not use a dynamic DNS service instead?
>>
>
> I see that my new HFC modem has a feature to activate that with various
> providers. So it's a possibility. I'm hoping though, that once the NBN
> service stabilises then the drop-outs will stop and my IP will very rarely
> change (as it was for 2 years with Telstra cable).
>
>
>> 2. Why host websites at home on a dynamic service? (We used to do that so
>> very long ago. I don't see much point to it now)
>>
>
> I have moved 5 domains and web sites into Azure. The only one remaining
> hosted at home is used for development and previews, and it has a cert, and
> it uses SQL Server databases and the file-system. So moving it all up to
> Azure hosting will be frightening technical challenge that I haven't got
> the stomach for yet.
>
> As I was saying here last year ... I hate hosting *anything*, so I'm
> looking forward to being able to eventually get the last site off my
> server, dismantle it and replace it with a little portable media server for
> music and video. Maybe that will be the Xmas holiday project!
>
> *GK*
>

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> 1. Why not use a dynamic DNS service instead?
>

I see that my new HFC modem has a feature to activate that with various
providers. So it's a possibility. I'm hoping though, that once the NBN
service stabilises then the drop-outs will stop and my IP will very rarely
change (as it was for 2 years with Telstra cable).


> 2. Why host websites at home on a dynamic service? (We used to do that so
> very long ago. I don't see much point to it now)
>

I have moved 5 domains and web sites into Azure. The only one remaining
hosted at home is used for development and previews, and it has a cert, and
it uses SQL Server databases and the file-system. So moving it all up to
Azure hosting will be frightening technical challenge that I haven't got
the stomach for yet.

As I was saying here last year ... I hate hosting *anything*, so I'm
looking forward to being able to eventually get the last site off my
server, dismantle it and replace it with a little portable media server for
music and video. Maybe that will be the Xmas holiday project!

*GK*

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread 罗格雷格博士 
Two thoughts:

1. Why not use a dynamic DNS service instead?
2. Why host websites at home on a dynamic service? (We used to do that so very 
long ago. I don't see much point to it now)

Regards,
 
Greg
 
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On 10/09/2017 9:12:51 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
Why don't you move to a provider that offers a fixed ip option?
Our Telstra contract expires in mid October, so after that we'll go NBN plan 
shopping! -- GK

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> Why don't you move to a provider that offers a fixed ip option?
>
Our Telstra contract expires in mid October, so after that we'll go NBN
plan shopping! -- *GK*

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread David Connors 
Why don't you move to a provider that offers a fixed ip option?

On Sat., 9 Sep. 2017, 11:14 pm Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Im getting a 404 on it right now 
>>
>
> I think it's an incredible coincidence, but about 30 mins ago our home NBN
> connection died. The 4 greens lights on the Arris went out, then came back
> on after several minutes. I received a new IP address and had to manually
> plug them into my DNS provider again (for the 3rd time in a week).
>
> I can see the domain is accessible again from an external source. I'm
> worried about the instability of the new NBN connection, as it's died 3
> times in a week, whereas the old cable connection died twice in a year.
>
> *GK*
>
-- 
David Connors
da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread Greg Keogh 
>
> Im getting a 404 on it right now 
>

I think it's an incredible coincidence, but about 30 mins ago our home NBN
connection died. The 4 greens lights on the Arris went out, then came back
on after several minutes. I received a new IP address and had to manually
plug them into my DNS provider again (for the 3rd time in a week).

I can see the domain is accessible again from an external source. I'm
worried about the instability of the new NBN connection, as it's died 3
times in a week, whereas the old cable connection died twice in a year.

*GK*

Re: [OT] Post NBN problem

2017-09-09 Thread grant.maw 
Im getting a 404 on it right now 


Sent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message From: Greg Keogh  Date: 
8/09/2017  4:48 PM  (GMT+10:00) To: ozDotNet  Subject: 
[OT] Post NBN problem 
TGIF ... It 16 days from NBN installation to getting the phone and data working 
normally. Luckily the old cable modem on a splitter kept working in the 
meantime or we would have been cactus.
I have only one incomprehensible problem after the changeover ... I have the 
domain and site orthogonal.net.au running on my home server and it's visible to 
the outside world (I can see IIS hits coming in). However, that domain is 
inaccessible from inside the house on our LAN. Browsing to it gives "Can't 
reach this page - INET_E_RESOURCE_NOT_FOUND". I've flushed DNS everywhere, 
changed DNS servers, turned off the firewall, rebooted, and so on, but nothing 
makes any difference.
Can anyone suggest why my served site is visible to the world, but not from 
inside our home LAN? Are there some diagnostic tricks to help narrow down 
what's wrong?
Greg K