RE: INSURANCE FOR MIDWIVES
I feel our ultimate goal is to change to a no fault system such as New Zealand has, this would be a benefit to many people (including obstetricians), the bigger the group the more we can change. I know this will take a long time but we need to look at long-term solutions too. Christine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Australian College of Midwives Incorporated Sent: Monday, 9 July 2001 9:53 AM To: ozmidwifery Subject: INSURANCE FOR MIDWIVES Hello Midwives, I know you are all very concerned about the insurance matter. The College is taking action to provide members with an option. We have been endeavouring to seek alternative insurance through our legal people, who have been searching the country. It is not a simple task. We will notifiy members as soon as information is available. Should be tomorrow. We too, are seriously concerned about this urgent matter. Alana Street, RM FACM, Executive Officer, Australian College of Midwives Incorporated, 1st. Floor, 3 Bowen Crescent, Melbourne, 3000. Tel: 03 98045071 or 1300 360480 Fax: 03 98 661370 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Homebirth midwives insurance
Dear Andrea and list Yes, there has to be a solution to this problem and it will be through the collective effort of women and midwives working together. Behind the panic is Guild's withdrawal from the malpractice arena. Lots of insurance companies have recalculated their business ventures since HIH collapse and the reality is there are not enough IPMs for them to make any money. Yes, it is NOT LUCRATIVE for them to insure us. COMPLAINTS AGAINST IPMs Their claim of too many complaints is unfortunately REAL ... although the complaints are petty; issues of IPMs falsly advertising, obstrucing the work of hospital midwives, being partly responsible for post-natal depression suffered by clients and the like ... the complaints coming mostly from doctors or hospital midwives. Nevertheless all complaints have to be considered by the insuracne company lawyers and this takes up an extroardinary amount of their time. NUMBERS OF IPMs INSURED ASIM did a quick survey of their members insured for PI with Guild. Responses revealed about half of the membership was unsured with Guild; there was a small proportion insured with ANF Victoria and there were five who had no professional insurance. Therefore the claim of lack of numbers is also real. -- __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Fw: homebirthing in jeopardy
AIMS has had some success with our recent e-mail lobbying campaign at the Redlands hospital - but final outcome, still to be advised. I think we should an e-mail lobbying campaign for the insurance issue - but I'm not sure who the key people to e-mail would be. My initial thoughts would be Guild CEO, other insurance company CEOs, pollies like Carmen Lawrence Natasha S-D, and of course the ACCC. Can I have suggestions about who you think should be on the receiving end of our e-mail campaign, and their e-mail address? Jan R Joy J, and anyone else with time, can I have a bit of help with drafting the e-mail message? Warm regards, Toni Cannard AIMS Australia From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Bronwyn CMWA Keys [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: homebirthing in jeopardy Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:44:16 +0800 Dear All THank you Catherine We need to write letters to the papers the polies and all if you need more content one of the aspiring midwives on the ozmidwifery list Tina and others has supplied some content ideas Does any one know ehen Vicki is having her session on Phillip Adams show?? Denise - Original Message - From: Catherine de Garis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:47 AM Subject: homebirthing in jeopardy To the Editor, The West Australian What a shame - when insurance brokers can apparently foreclose on home birth as an option for all Western Australian women! Giving birth is an intimate and indelible experience in the lives of both the mother and her child. Women need the right to choose where and with whom this will happen. We believe society's responsibility to care for and protect women and babies goes well beyond the simple right of redress at law. Why should any mother be asked to forego the skilled and caring hands of a homebirth midwife just because insurance brokers lack vision? Catherine de Garis Chairperson, Birthplace Support Group Inc -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
insurance issue
Dear List, As a hospital-based midwife and a consumer of private midwifery services in the past, I have been interested in the discussions regarding insurance for midwives in private practice. One point is unclear to me...I am wondering what the problem is with insurance provided through ANF? Is it a philosophical concern about midwives being members of a nursing organisation, or are there other issues regarding this insurance? If so, what would they be? I read that some (Joy, I think)have only insurance through ANF, and wonder why these midwives consider it to be suitable and others don't. Another thought that comes to mind is does anyone know what ANF's position on Batchelor of Midwifery graduates will be? I know that ANF is not in favour of direct entry midwifery, but will B.Mid midwives be accepted for membership of ANF, not being nurses? I would imagine that some B.Mid grads will end up working in hospitals or other health care services, and wonder where they will get industrial representation? Is this something that ACMI is ever likely to take on, so that we can all drop our membership of a nurses organisation? The problems faced by midwives in private practice is an issue that all midwives should be concerned about, but many hospital midwives don't see it as affecting them in any way. I get really frustrated by the midwives where I work who spout off all the time about how much better off our clients would be with a midwives clinic, and how we should be able to have midwife-managed care for selected women, but then when they become pregnant themselves, its straight off to the private obs/private hospital package. If we can't support ourselves and present a unified campaign, we're never going to achieve government and community recognition for midwives as care providers. But I guess I'm preaching to the converted here! Katrina. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: insurance issue
Dear Katrina The insurance provided by ANF is only provided by the Victorian branch. I tried to pursue this yesterday - but because I live in NSW - I cannot become a member of ANF Victoria (something to do with their constitution). I spoke with David Marshall - ANF Victoria's insurance broker yesterday. He claims that no company in Australia will cover midwives. He is currently trying to find insurance off shore for midwives (in the UK I think) - but it will come down to cost (the exchange rate between here at the UK isn't exactly great). I contracted my own insurance broker who put in submissions for me to all companies who do professional indemnity insurance in Australia - there are 8 companies and 8 declined to insure me. I also contacted the NSW Nurses Association yesterday - I know we have philosophical differences - however they have political clout and huge membership. They contacted me back and asked to write to the general secretary - they may well take it up as an issue. The person I spoke to quite outraged at the current state of affairs. Cheers Jane Palmer Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Katrina Vincent Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 9:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: insurance issue Dear List, As a hospital-based midwife and a consumer of private midwifery services in the past, I have been interested in the discussions regarding insurance for midwives in private practice. One point is unclear to me...I am wondering what the problem is with insurance provided through ANF? Is it a philosophical concern about midwives being members of a nursing organisation, or are there other issues regarding this insurance? If so, what would they be? I read that some (Joy, I think)have only insurance through ANF, and wonder why these midwives consider it to be suitable and others don't. Another thought that comes to mind is does anyone know what ANF's position on Batchelor of Midwifery graduates will be? I know that ANF is not in favour of direct entry midwifery, but will B.Mid midwives be accepted for membership of ANF, not being nurses? I would imagine that some B.Mid grads will end up working in hospitals or other health care services, and wonder where they will get industrial representation? Is this something that ACMI is ever likely to take on, so that we can all drop our membership of a nurses organisation? The problems faced by midwives in private practice is an issue that all midwives should be concerned about, but many hospital midwives don't see it as affecting them in any way. I get really frustrated by the midwives where I work who spout off all the time about how much better off our clients would be with a midwives clinic, and how we should be able to have midwife-managed care for selected women, but then when they become pregnant themselves, its straight off to the private obs/private hospital package. If we can't support ourselves and present a unified campaign, we're never going to achieve government and community recognition for midwives as care providers. But I guess I'm preaching to the converted here! Katrina. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
insurance issue
Dear MIPP's, Have you thought about going to the Anti Discrimination Board Equal Opportunity in relation to the Indemnity Insurance on the basis that doctors can be insured but midiwves aren't being insured and that as health professionals you are not being given equal opportunity to be employed? Jenny Owen Midwifery Educator A/Professional Develpoment Midwife/Nurse DNAMER KEMH pH:93401571, page 1458, Fax:93887003 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
PI and NZ ACC cover
Hi all, Regarding insurance in NZ, from my understanding ACC covers all, no fault, all ages, workers and non workers. This Accident Commission cover levy is paid by every working person and covers all. They played around the edges about 6 years ago but basically it's the same I accessed over 20 years ago. There is no 'right ' to sue for damages, instead care will be provided to all injured/harmed personsthroughout their life. There are something's NZ leads the world in and this ACC has been in for at least 30 years!! One small thought, how is the ACMI going to be able to sponsor indemnity insurance when so few midwives belong to it? Will it mean some of these few members who are 'lucky' enough to be covered through their work in hospitals are going to be supporting IMP? Will IMP membership costs be increased or will everyone's? Playing devil's advocate here but these will be some questions midwives will be thinking but may not ask. Just a thought 'cos the other day I was asked 'what does ACMI do for midwives' when a colleague (recently arrived from NZ) was deciding how to stretch her family's budget and trying to justifying joining QNU and/or ACMI. QNU provides PI but not if you are an IMP. She hopes to join ACMI at a later stage! Barb Cook
