Re: Australia TalksBackTODAY
Hi Denise, Micheal Wooldridge just doesn't seem to get it! In answering a question from a caller from the Maternity Coalition he said something to the effect that if Midwives were rebated under Medicare then Physios, Chiropractors etc would have to be as well. We can keep women out of hospital thus decreasing costs substantially. I don't understand why he can't (won't) see this. Leigh - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: Australia TalksBackTODAY ANYONE able to call Australia Talks Back on Radio National today 3pm in WA( 810 AM) - 5pm in the East Michael Woolridge and Jenny Macklin are to ake calls about health agendas of the parties! They were on Life matters this morning and will be repeated tonite. I did not hear any comments about childbearing services??Denise
Re Rebates
And why on earth shouldn't other health professionals also be rebatable on medicare? As well as midwives. What is the man's problem? My mother who lives in New Zealand -where my friends have babies with midwives - has recentlybeen referred to a chiropractor and a physio (for massage) by her G.P.!!! (can you imagine THAT happening here?)- and all these treatments, including midwives!!! are paid for by the government! They ALL keep people OUT OF HOSPITAL! Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
Radio National Today
Hi All It seems I was lucky enough to get on Australia Talks Back this afternoon and got half a question to Wooldridge and Macklin. I mentioned that I was a member of Maternity Coalition and that we had met with both their offices and that neither of them had taken our issues seriously. I also got it that childbirth is the most important reason for hospitalisation in the country and that very little has come from all the inquiries! I was then cut off and I was sorry I didn't get to mention COST!! Anyway. For those who didn't hear it Wooldrige gave that crap line about psysiotherapists and chiropractors and that he wasn't prepared to fund midwives. Macklin gave the mirror answer, looking into it! I am posting this because (if that pathetic gov is returned and as they are campaigning on the backs of dead people they proabably will) they need to be taken to task on this utter garbage. We are talking LIKE services and the pregnancy and birth of a baby no matter what!! Even so Wooldrige went on to say with other callers that Medicare was too Doctor focussed and he was glad to offer services to Psychologists for non-drug related therapy etc and that a model of wellness and preventative care were important to the Gov!! Yeah but let's not take a cent from the Obstetricians. Angry and Praying for a Labor Gov with some Greens and or Democrats to keep the Bastards honest!! Justine Caines Maternity Coalition - ACT Branch -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Rescue Remedy
Re the use of Australian flower Essence and W.A. Wildflower Essence, I have been told by practitioners that they are better for those of us who live down under. cheers, MM - Original Message - From: Christina Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: Rescue Remedy I don't know a lot about Bach flower remedies except that I have used Emergency Essence, and it has worked for me. (I think this is the same as rescue remedy, different name.) My naturopath claims that Bach Flower Essences work well for those of British/ European origin, but those who have lived in Australia for many years that Australian Wildflower/Bushflower essences are more appropriate. Has anyone heard of this point of view? Christina. -Original Message- From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, 28 October 2001 10:25 Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy Dear Lieve Your messages to this list are always good. And your kind words about Australian midwives are appreciated. I think Belgian midwives are pretty special people too. I want to thank all who have shared their knowledge and beliefs about the flower 'remedies'. There are many things about which my knowledge is limited, and I see many midwives claiming knowledge in the fields of alternative therapies and other modes of healing. I constantly struggle with our society's *need* to have treatments and therapies - and hence my sceptical response. I know this human body is imperfect, and can be very easily put into a cycle of illness and destruction. I think we feel compelled to interfere if we believe that by not interfering the outcome is likely to be bad, and that we can make it better. That's what a rescue is all about. In learning to be a midwife I have been learning about a woman's empowerment from within. By this I mean that I (the midwife) don't usually do the 'empowering' (or healing or treating or therapies). My presence should enable the woman's own inner knowledge to become freed up, and healing comes with that empowerment. I am constantly amazed and in awe when I see that this has happened. Sometimes the woman uses medicines of one sort or the other in her process of healing, but in the end there's a sense of (to quote Tao Te Ching): the mother will rightly say, 'we did it ourselves'. Joy -Original Message- From: Lieve Huybrechts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Rescue Remedy Hello Jenny, I work for a few years with the Bach Flower Remedys, for myself and my clients. They helped me a lot in the growing we all have to do and let me understand why we meet challenges. In childbirth I use them , but not standard at every pregnancy or birth, only when something unexpected happens, extreme fear with the mother,to heal a bad experience in previous birth, or to help a baby after a difficult birth. I had once a nice story. A single mother had a very difficult delivery in the hospital. The birth ended horribly with a difficult ventousse, that got of the head for three times. The baby's head was in asyncletisme and the gyn didn't allow it to turn. The baby needed oxygen after birth, the skin of the head was damaged and she had a large hematoom. We succeded to get the baby with us for a couple off minutes without anyone else. She was still so shocked she didn't try to drink at the breast. I gave her some rescue and also did some drops on the head (I hoped they wouldn't smell the cognac that is in) and massaged it softly into the damaged skin. Then the baby was taken away to the neonatal ward. Next morning the pediatrician (who also attended the birth ) came in with the baby and sayd: I have never seen a baby recover so quickly after such an horrible birth. We could go home the same day. Dear Joy, I also read your comment and I agree what we say can have great power. But the flower remedys do work, the proof is easely given when you use it on young children, people that have Alzheimer and animals, often with great results. I attended the Paris conference off Midwifery Today. I met midwifes from over the world, also your collegues of Australia. I loved to be with them, to share storys, to learn from experiences. It was warm and beautifull to see that worldwide midwifes are standing up and struggle for their profession. We still have a long way to go and Belgium is just at the start of growth. Warm greetings Lieve -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This
GYNAE MIGHT 10/11
Hi all, This is for your interest. Maybe I'll see you there! BB Jackie Mawson. -- Forwarded Message From: A. Mazzella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:55:32 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GYNAE MIGHT 10/11 Thanks for your interest and forwarding this to other women in our community GAIN Gynaecological Awareness Information Network www.gynsupport.com When: Saturday 10 November 2001 Where: WA Health Dept. Lecture Theatre 189 Royal Street East Perth Time: 1.30am - 4.30pm Cost: $7 --- 1.30pm Open Tanya Pirone Health Consumers Council 1.40 - 2.20pm Panel - Womens Personal Stories Endometriosis, Cancer, Infertility Polycystic Ovary Syndrome 2.20 - 2.50pmAssoc Prof Kate White Sexuality Body Image 2.50 - 3.25pm Afternoon Tea 3.25 - 3.55pm Eva Michlmayr - Cytyc Corporation Pap Smears defined 3.55 - 4.25pm Dr Jane Thompson GP Dr Eleanor Ghergori From Inside Out. A Visual Journey Sponsored by Cytyc Corporation Proudly supported by National Council of Women WA, Cancer Foundation WA Supporting Women in Western Australia RSVP : 5 Nov 2001 : Kath Mazzella 9378 3307 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4 Boronia Ct Morley WA 6062 --- G A I N's VISION To be a National Gynaecological Health Support Awareness and Advocacy Group G A I N's GOALS Exceptional Member Satisfaction Inspired, Innovative and Empower members and friends Financial Self Sustainability G A I N's VALUES Members First - We anticipate, understand, meet and exceed member satisfaction Integrity In All We Do - Our actions and decisions reflect the highest ethical, legal and professional standards Excellence through Quality - We will individually and collectively use Quality in our daily activities to achieve excellence as a group. Respect for each other - We care about our organisation, our work, our clients and each other. This caring is a unique source of our organisationenergy strength and excellence. Growth Through Knowledge - We will grow as organisation as an ndividual and a professional by creating, anticipating and responding to advances inknowledge. Community Commitment - We willingly serve the Gynaecological Health and needs of our communities. Personal Growth - We will empower our members by building their knowledge,confidence and self esteem. Lobby for a National Gyn Awareness Day in Australia for Sept 2002 to coincide with the women in USA who have a month of gyn health Awareness. Gynecologic Cancer Awareness Month (GCAM), as proclaimed by the Gynecologic Cancer Foundation (which is associated with the Society for Gynecologic Oncologists. Their web site is: http://www.wcn.org/gcf/ That way it would be a more global effort (though GCAM isn't an official US designation, just declared by GCF). Kathleen Mazzella GAIN Gynaecological Awareness Information Network www.gynsupport.com -- End of Forwarded Message -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Australia TalksBackTODAY
Leigh Thank you for this feedback Denise - Original Message - From: Leigh Evans To: Denise Hynd ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Australia TalksBackTODAY Hi Denise, Micheal Wooldridge just doesn't seem to get it! In answering a question from a caller from the Maternity Coalition he said something to the effect that if Midwives were rebated under Medicare then Physios, Chiropractors etc would have to be as well. We can keep women out of hospital thus decreasing costs substantially. I don't understand why he can't (won't) see this. Leigh - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: Australia TalksBackTODAY ANYONE able to call Australia Talks Back on Radio National today 3pm in WA( 810 AM) - 5pm in the East Michael Woolridge and Jenny Macklin are to ake calls about health agendas of the parties! They were on Life matters this morning and will be repeated tonite. I did not hear any comments about childbearing services??Denise
Re: Radio National Today
Dear Justine Well done on being able to make the effort. Do not waste energy being hurt, upset by their inappropriate response. We are not the only aware electors 7 listeners out there! Our time is coming because we are part of the answers to questions which are being asked becuase there are people suffereing unneccessarily. Denise - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Radio National Today Hi All It seems I was lucky enough to get on Australia Talks Back this afternoon and got half a question to Wooldridge and Macklin. I mentioned that I was a member of Maternity Coalition and that we had met with both their offices and that neither of them had taken our issues seriously. I also got it that childbirth is the most important reason for hospitalisation in the country and that very little has come from all the inquiries! I was then cut off and I was sorry I didn't get to mention COST!! Anyway. For those who didn't hear it Wooldrige gave that crap line about psysiotherapists and chiropractors and that he wasn't prepared to fund midwives. Macklin gave the mirror answer, looking into it! I am posting this because (if that pathetic gov is returned and as they are campaigning on the backs of dead people they proabably will) they need to be taken to task on this utter garbage. We are talking LIKE services and the pregnancy and birth of a baby no matter what!! Even so Wooldrige went on to say with other callers that Medicare was too Doctor focussed and he was glad to offer services to Psychologists for non-drug related therapy etc and that a model of wellness and preventative care were important to the Gov!! Yeah but let's not take a cent from the Obstetricians. Angry and Praying for a Labor Gov with some Greens and or Democrats to keep the Bastards honest!! Justine Caines Maternity Coalition - ACT Branch -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: Radio National Today
Well done Justine! I can't believe that people would approve of this inequitable baby bonus scheme that the Libs have put up! Are they trying to buy off the young couples/families' votes? When will the message be got across that it should be the consumer, not the provider of the service, that decides what they want (and that's straight from Trades Practices Act/ Competition Policy stuff)??? Also all the policies directing funds to private hospitals (read big business) and running down the public hospitals. Where will it all end? I am worried. Joy Johnston -Original Message- From: Justine Caines [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:57 PM To: OzMid List Subject:Radio National Today Hi All It seems I was lucky enough to get on Australia Talks Back this afternoon and got half a question to Wooldridge and Macklin. I mentioned that I was a member of Maternity Coalition and that we had met with both their offices and that neither of them had taken our issues seriously. I also got it that childbirth is the most important reason for hospitalisation in the country and that very little has come from all the inquiries! I was then cut off and I was sorry I didn't get to mention COST!! Anyway. For those who didn't hear it Wooldrige gave that crap line about psysiotherapists and chiropractors and that he wasn't prepared to fund midwives. Macklin gave the mirror answer, looking into it! I am posting this because (if that pathetic gov is returned and as they are campaigning on the backs of dead people they proabably will) they need to be taken to task on this utter garbage. We are talking LIKE services and the pregnancy and birth of a baby no matter what!! Even so Wooldrige went on to say with other callers that Medicare was too Doctor focussed and he was glad to offer services to Psychologists for non-drug related therapy etc and that a model of wellness and preventative care were important to the Gov!! Yeah but let's not take a cent from the Obstetricians. Angry and Praying for a Labor Gov with some Greens and or Democrats to keep the Bastards honest!! Justine Caines Maternity Coalition - ACT Branch -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Parenting Conf
Hi Have you heard of the forthcoming Parenting Conference at Melbourne Uni in Nov? the brochure says, The conference will be relevant to practitioners, academics and people working with families who have children from BIRTH to late adolescence. There are lots of eminent (male) professors (whom you can bet have never actually "parented" , let alone birthed or breastfed a real child -this would be "wife work" while they gained their credentials) and the only baby "experts" featured on the brochure are under "presentations of new initiatives and resources and will include :(among others to do with older children ie Jesuit Social Services -men and family relationships and a booklet that explores resilience etc) -Tweddle Child and family Health Service, a book to assist families understand and manage their baby or young child's sleeping difficulties". This book is a very, very sad way to deal with very young babies. Anyone got any suggestions? any displays?? re birth , bonding, breastfeeding-which of course would minimise the need for so many "experts" . My book Parenting By Heart will be there for sale -but at $300 , I wont be. I have only just got the info myself and I guess it is late to protest but perhaps some pressure is due as the conf is for Parent educators. the address on the leaflet is: The Conference Secretariat Parenting Conference, PO BOX 1141 Collinwood, Vic, 3066. Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
