[ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
Thought some of you wise women could help with a friends query. She has been prescribed Prochiaden 25mg for depression and she is breastfeeding her 2 month old. She was worried about the side effects and what effects that would have on bubs. I thought that most anti depressants would have similiar side effects listed ie. drowsiness, dizziness, nausea(? spelling) Do any of you know much about this drug? are there any safer anti depressants for pregnancy ( DISCLAIMER- I am actually not a fan of anti depressants at all. I believe most depression can be cured with exercise, nutrition and various therapies. However, she is adimant about taking them and so I want to find out the safest). Could someone look it up in, is it Dr Hales, book? Thanks so much. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2004
Hello, just a quick reminder of the National Caesarean Awareness Day celebration that will be held this Saturday at Waterfall Gully from 3.30pm - Restoring the Birthing Woman Within: a day of emotional healing. A day of emotional healing is a time to share and express our emotions in a positive and meaningful way. The day will incorporate story telling, those who feel comfortable can share their own personal story, a poem, a prayer or picture. If you are unable to attend but still wish to share your thoughts, you may like to contribute to the booklet to be produced after the day "Expressions of Emotional Healing". We welcome all contributions and you can submit yours on the web site : www.cares-sa.org.au Each woman is also invited to bring the petals of her favourite flower(s) to scatter over the flowing water during the ceremony; symbolically cleansing and giving away. Candles will be lit around the nation to link each states events. Candles will be on sale on the day for a small cost. Please keep in mind: - the weather forecast is for rain, so please bring an umbrella or two if you have spare and dress warm! - partners are welcome however the location is NOT suitable for young children (small babies excluded) as there is no pram access, the area for the ceremony is quite smalland the waterfall is easily accessible for children. CARES SA advise that it is not safe for young children. It is also a time for adults to share emotions that some young children may not understand and could cause distress. CARES SA has always welcomed and catered for children, however we must regretfully stress that this event may not be suitable. Please feel welcome to invite others whom you may think may benefit for this very special event. We look forward to seeing you on the day! And remember if you can not make it, you can still contribute to the booklet "Expressions of Emotional Healing". yours in birth Jo, Carolyn and the exceptional women of the CARES SAcore group.
Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid SA
I think i already answered this before? There are no issues, i have to register in SA first then change my registration to NT nurses board after that. It is due to the course not being done in Darwin. As far as i know its accpeted australia wide, you just change registration when you move from state to state. Kirsten BMid student Darwin ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: Honey Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:28 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BMid SA Are there issues with different states in Australia and the BMId qualification? For example if you study externally from Uni SA but then want to be registered and work as a Midwife in Darwin or Brisbane or Canberra are there problems or is it accepted everywhere? Thanks Honey - Original Message - From: Marguerite Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA Hi Sue I found out about Uni SA external BMid program a week or two ago after buying the NSW/ACT uni book and finding UT (Syd) BMid ( due to start 2005) unlisted. I browsed a bit and found Uni SA. I emailed Beth Grinter who sent me info re external study BMid at Uni SA . It has, to date, only been some units but her reply suggests that all units should be available externally by 2005 intake. She sent me an info sheet with SATAC numbers for the courses, which is a bit puzzling because the SATAC website BMid number isn't the same as Beth's ones. And no separate numbers for applying for on campus versus external study. Trying to track it all down now, apply AND examining, after years of being a birth helper, if my goal of being a midwife is still in place. I've been waiting for the ACT to introduce the BMid since at least 1997 and it's still not here so exteranl study seems a good option as I don't feel like I can move. I've been --- Tania Laurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re BMid SAHi Sue I don't think there is an external 3 year program - but then I didn't know there was an external 6 year program either!! From my understanding there are only certain subjects in the 3 year program that can be undertaken externally. Perhaps you could contact the program director at Uni SA. Her name is Beth Grinter, ph 8302 6317 - she can be difficult to get hold of, so be patient and she will return your call if you leave a message. Tania Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.869 (20040913) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Re: the abortion topic
Hi guys I just wanted to add that I am not pro or against abortion - just understanding of women's difficulties and changing circumstances that come up and bite you in the bum when you least expect them! I do know of women who have had abortions for very sound reasons (now I feel like I am having to justify their decisions or lack of them) and I have seen the heart-ache that this has caused for years to come. They have not been decisions that have been taken lightly and often they have affected many people in the wings - family and the professionals caring for them. I have also worked with some amazing midwives who have cared for women during the procedure (and not the early ones) because they have been 'dropped' by their midwives, doctors etc (and often ones they trusted)for the decision that had been made. They felt that were being judged by people (professionals) who should know better and who knew very little of their personal situations. The midwives who cared for these women often had anti-abortion feelings also but kept that part of their personal belief system and not for public knowledge.Others felt that this was not something that they could be involved with(ethical reasonsor emotional well-being)and professionally and kindly removed themselves from the situation making sure the woman was cared for by someone who could support her through one of the most difficult times of her life. Usually we knew of those such people and as professionals we supported them with their difficult task. Unit managers also knew which staff they could call on. As a student, one of my fellow colleagues wasvery openand somewhat ruthless in expressing her opinions. "I will not care for such women! I'm not that kind of midwife". As midwives, especially when working in the continuity model... you don't know who these women are going to be. They don't exactly have signs on their foreheads. Often the women don't know who they are either. Unfortuanately, abortion was almost a taboo subject in my training (issues with one the lecturer's I suspected) so I took it upon myself to research and present this topic as one of my special topic presentations. I thought it was important for all midwives (and other heath professionals) to know how complex the situation is, situations but more importantly, how to deal with the situation when it arises. As a woman and a mother, I have my own feelings and opinionsbut have also been very grateful that Ihavenever beenin such a situationbut asa midwife I hope to have a professional approach to the subject as well and wanted to be prepared in advance. I urge you all to give this some consideration so that the women we care for are treated in a respectful and non-judgemental manner. Know what services exist in your area and where these women and families can can help, advice and support.Be clear about your professional and personal boundaries. I value this list for the opportunity to share feelings and experienes but like some others, I don't feel it is an appropriate place to lay judgement and stir up feelingsand emotions that lie deep within any one of us. We all have our own issues, passions and life experiences (both good and bad) and I know that certain topics are very close to home for me also. Kiwi Kim. Kim Stead Midwife : Birth-Wise Midwifery www.birth-wise.com. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 3:30:59 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc Abby I find your writings on abortion very judgemental of others. How can you sit in judgment when you personally have not been through abortion and know what it is like, or know why a woman would make that choice? It seems youhave never had to face a situation personally with abortion. Or if you have you need to deal with your feelings about it adequetly rather than sit in judgment of others. I have had two abortions personally -one an unwanted pregnancy at a very young age with failed contraceptives and the other a very much wanted pregnancy and abortion due to medical reasons (my health not the fetus'). They werehard situations and the grief I have experienced is enormous. I have reflected on my views on abortion many times and althoughIdon't believe I wouldchoose an abortion again for myselfI still believe in a womans right to choose an abortion. Perhaps its time you turned the attention and energy around and focus on yourself and look at what it is inside yourself that you can't accept. I worry that someone who works with women regulary would hold such harsh views.How can you care and support them adequetly feeling the way you do? Do you ask each woman before you work with them about their "abortion status" and decline working with them if they have had an abortion? I didn't want to join this debate as it is such an emotive one and probably does no good, but your comments affected me and there are probably many women on this list
Re: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc
Perhaps its time you turned the attention and energy around and focus on yourself and look at what it is inside yourself that you can't accept. Is this really a serious comment? Because of the fact that I strongly disagree with something, then there is something I need to deal with. So.because I disagree strongly with child abuse, pornography, rape etc etc, then I will need to look inside myself to see what it is that I can't accept?? I am willing to speak out against, what I see as major problems in our world, so this means I have issues. I know I have issues, but I don't see speaking out against the norm as that being a sign of them. worry that someone who works with women regulary would hold such harsh views.How can you care and support them adequetly feeling the way you do? Do you ask each woman before you work with them about their "abortion status" and decline working with them if they have had an abortion? I love the "please don't judge women" comments and then the judgements. To the above statement, as if. If you knew mewell...you obviously don't. Just because I feel strongly against abortion and feel the need to speak out against it, doesn't mean the topic runs my life. I am not even going to answer the second question. So, I am guessing you are perfect, so you can care and support women adequately then? There are so many things in this world that people can disagree on. Here is a list that I think we would all have differing views on smacking children, co-sleeping, natural parenting, drugs in birth, breastfeeding, religion, politics etc etc, does this mean then, that because someone disagrees with you, then they are inadequate carers. What does a woman need to care adequately for a woman? Is it the "right" opinion or is it a heart and passion for her and her journey? Love Abby- please don't throw insults out, while telling me not to be judgemental.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
Where does your friend live abby? If she is in melbourne, or doesn't mind calling melbourne, the Monash Medical Centre drug information line (03-9594 2361), is a brilliant resource for pregnant or breastfeeding women. A man called Rod (White is his surname I think) specialises in medications in pregnancy and breastfeeding. Absolute gem of a man. He helped me when I wanted to continue breastfeeding my 5 month old daughter and had to go on to thyroid and arthritis medications. I had the same dilemma when my son was 5 months old, but didn't know about rodney, so took doctors advice and weaned him. I was devastated (not that my doctors took that into account!) Was determined not to this time, spoke to one of ABA counsellors and she put me on to rod. With his care and advice i happily breastfed my beautiful little girl until she was 2 and a half years old, when we both came to a mutually happy decision to wean! Kirsten -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
Hi Abbey I thought I would look this up as I have an interest in mental illness and have a limited knowledge of pharmacology. Prochiaden is a tricyclic antidepressant and one of the 'older' depression drugs. More often SSRI's are being used. Was your friend on this medication before pregnancy and during pregnancy? Is this being prescribed by an appropriate professional. I assume he/she is aware that she is breastfeeding. From my textbooks, it's suggests that postnatally, the amounts should be reduced to pre-pregnancy levels with close observation for emergent side effects. Side effects in the baby can include feeding difficulties, seizures, tachypnoea, pastrointestional stasis and bladder retention. Obviously quite serious and not to be taken without careful consideration and a detailed consultation. It's reallynot something that a midwife has a lot of knowledge about unless she is specifically trained in that field, therefore difficult to advise and make statements or judgements. I too agreee that it's best to try more natural remedies first but in the case of mental illness, one (a professional) needs to decide how serious thesituation is and weigh up the advantages and disadvantages of taking/not taking the medication. It may well be that your friend needs to take this medication at this time and while it may affect the baby, her needs are important at ensuring her mental and emotional wellbeing in order for her to be an effective and loving mother. Again...one of those not so black and white issues. Hope this has been of some help. Probablly not I suspect! Kim Stead Midwife : Birth-Wise Midwifery www.birth-wise.com. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 4:24:18 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding? Thought some of you wise women could help with a friends query. She has been prescribed Prochiaden 25mg for depression and she is breastfeeding her 2 month old. She was worried about the side effects and what effects that would have on bubs. I thought that most anti depressants would have similiar side effects listed ie. drowsiness, dizziness, nausea(? spelling) Do any of you know much about this drug? are there any safer anti depressants for pregnancy ( DISCLAIMER- I am actually not a fan of anti depressants at all. I believe most "depression" can be cured with exercise, nutrition and various therapies. However, she is adimant about taking them and so I want to find out the safest). Could someone look it up in, is it Dr Hales, book? Thanks so much. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] West Today
No Denise, How can we access it ? marilyn - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] West Today Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead
Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc
I guess if we took this 'pro all life' argument to the extreme then we would not have leather in our lounges, cars, shoes. There is a school of thought out there that plants scream when cut so I guess we don't cut any, don't rip veges off the tree/vine, don't fell trees etc!!! Cheers Judy --- Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much higher expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries. Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies one is on another plane. Only to those who for some reason are offended by such a position. Vegetarians never portray themselves as perfect. At least not in my experience (always the caveat). Oh the joys of email without emotion! lol! I think you have misinterpreted what I was saying. I was a vego for years and still now am 90%. So...I don't think anything of vegetarians, except, yes, they are human. I don't believe that what you eat makes you any more or any less of a person. My point being that I find it ironic that some vegos are so concerned by harming animal life, yet they will kill their own offspring. To me, this goes against their own philosophies, hence, irony. Love Abby Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
Thanks fine Abby - the reference is from "Fundamental of Pharmacology" - Galbraith, Bullock, Mania. If anyone ever wants me to look anything up, just yell as I have some good books that are getting little use and they are so expensive to buy! In NZ we have prescribing rights so that's why I got them but they are useful to have. Kim ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 5:50:51 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding? Hi Kim, That was very helpful, thankyou. Would you mind if I forwarded the info from your textbooks? I know she wants as much info as possible. She came off anti-depressantsafter 6 years of being on them, just before she got pregnant. She wasn't taking Prochiaden though, it was something else. I am sure it was an SSRI, but can't remember the name. So she hasn't been on them at all through pregnancy. Her doctor lives 4 hours away in Orange. He was the one who first prescribed them for her when she was 16 and feeling " a little bit down"but that is a whole other story. Thanks again for the info. Love Abby
Re: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc
Honey, Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your personal story in such a public way. Sadly there is such a stigma to abortion, that it's something that selfish, careless women do, etc... people don't realise that it's their sisters, their lovers, mothers, aunties, friends, and colleagues of all ages (not just teenagers) that make the difficult choice to have an abortion. Blessings to you all, Jen --- Honey Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abby I find your writings on abortion very judgemental of others. How can you sit in judgment when you personally have not been through abortion and know what it is like, or know why a woman would make that choice? It seems you have never had to face a situation personally with abortion. Or if you have you need to deal with your feelings about it adequetly rather than sit in judgment of others. I have had two abortions personally - one an unwanted pregnancy at a very young age with failed contraceptives and the other a very much wanted pregnancy and abortion due to medical reasons (my health not the fetus'). They were hard situations and the grief I have experienced is enormous. I have reflected on my views on abortion many times and although I don't believe I would choose an abortion again for myself I still believe in a womans right to choose an abortion. Perhaps its time you turned the attention and energy around and focus on yourself and look at what it is inside yourself that you can't accept. I worry that someone who works with women regulary would hold such harsh views. How can you care and support them adequetly feeling the way you do? Do you ask each woman before you work with them about their abortion status and decline working with them if they have had an abortion? I didn't want to join this debate as it is such an emotive one and probably does no good, but your comments affected me and there are probably many women on this list who have had abortions so you are sitting in judgement of many and bringing up pain and many feelings for women in a very unloving and unsupportive way. perhaps its time to take this debate to an abortion list rather than an ozmid one. Thanks Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA
Hi Sue, I am at Uni SA and started part time external BMid this year, but as Kirsten mentioned, the course will be available full time externally next year. Hope this helps. Tanya From: Callum Kirsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:40:45 +0930 Re BMid SAYes the external can be full time 3 years or part time over up to 6 years. We have only been able to do part time this year, but the course is fully full time external as of next year! Kirsten (another unisa external student!) Darwin. ~~~start life with a midwife~~~ - Original Message - From: Sue Cookson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA Hi Tania, Tanya and others, Just to clarify Tania, you're enrolled in the 3 year BMid internal program, and Tanya you're in the 6 year external Bmid at UniSA. Could either of you enlighten me about whether UniSA has a 3 year external program as well? Thanks, Sue Hi Kim I'm not sure how to email you off list so am replying here! I'm interested in doing my graduate year in NZ. Currently I'm studying the BMid at UniSA as one of the first 'direct entry' group. I'd have finished at the end of this year, but had a homebirth for baby no. 3 in July last year and will now finish end of 2005. Thanks for link you provided - will take a look and see how I go. Could you let me know how to email you off list - just in case I have more questions?? Thanks. Cheers Tania __ NOD32 1.868 (20040910) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com _ In the market for a car? Buy, sell or browse at CarPoint: http://server-au.imrworldwide.com/cgi-bin/b?cg=linkci=ninemsntu=http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au?refid=hotmail_tagline -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts
There seem to be a number of posts coming in multiple times from different people now. Could it be something with the ozmidwifery email rather than individuals computers? Or are we all catching the virus? - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts Hey Jo! I am not cross and I am sure the others are not as it is obviouslyun-intentional. Good luck with the tech friend!! Don't they come in handy. Kim. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 3:45:30 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts I am really sorry about this guys, i am trying to work out why this is happening. My virus software says there is nothing worng but we all can tell it is not! I am going to remove my address book from the computer and see if that helps! Pleasedont be cross. you coud try putting a bar on the particular message to stop it from coming in on your end? But I am going to call a techfriend tonight!
Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts
I am suspecting the virus has attacked ozmid again! it seems to happen from time to time. marilyn - Original Message - From: Honey Acharya To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts There seem to be a number of posts coming in multiple times from different people now. Could it be something with the ozmidwifery email rather than individuals computers? Or are we all catching the virus? - Original Message - From: Kim Stead To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts Hey Jo! I am not cross and I am sure the others are not as it is obviouslyun-intentional. Good luck with the tech friend!! Don't they come in handy. Kim. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 3:45:30 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts I am really sorry about this guys, i am trying to work out why this is happening. My virus software says there is nothing worng but we all can tell it is not! I am going to remove my address book from the computer and see if that helps! Pleasedont be cross. you coud try putting a bar on the particular message to stop it from coming in on your end? But I am going to call a techfriend tonight!
Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
In NSW try the Mothersafe helpline on 1800 647 848 for info on medications in pregnancy and breastfeeding.It's listed in the front of the White pages under community help . Cheers, David - Original Message - From: Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding? Where does your friend live abby? If she is in melbourne, or doesn't mind calling melbourne, the Monash Medical Centre drug information line (03-9594 2361), is a brilliant resource for pregnant or breastfeeding women. A man called Rod (White is his surname I think) specialises in medications in pregnancy and breastfeeding. Thanks for that info Kirsten. My friend lives in Sydney, but I will give them a call and also give her the number. What a great resource. It is a shame more doctors don't know about drugs and breastfeeding and also safe alternatives to their favourite prescriptions for breastfeeding mothers. Thanks again, greatly appreciated. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts
My checker is also eradicating about 10 virus's a day. Mine seem to be coming from a travel agents list. I am also getting all the multiples. The cyber world is really strange. M I am suspecting the virus has attacked ozmid again! it seems to happen from time to time. There seem to be a number of posts coming in multiple times from different people now. Could it be something with the ozmidwifery email rather than individuals computers? Or are we all catching the virus? - Original Message -
[ozmidwifery] repeating posts!
Thank goodness it is not only mine that is doing it now! My tech friend did a whole heap of checking and he too says that there is no virus and that it must be coming from the list itself! So sorryguys, you may just have to get sick of seeingmy name! cheers Jo
Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?
L1 is the safest, but I would have to look right through the book for other antidepressants as the drugs are in alphabetical order. Don't have time right now but maybe in the next few days(?). Joy Cocks RN (Div 1) RM CBE IBCLC BRIGHT Vic 3741 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Abby and Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 17:38 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding? And/or, the evidence of a demonstrated risk which is likely to follow use of this medication in a breastfeeding woman is remote. Hope this helps Joy Thanks Joy. I did mean Prothiaden, I wrote down c instead of t when she was telling me the spelling. Does the book say if there are any safer drugs? Or is L2 the safest with least effects? Thanks Love Abby. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.
Dear Philipa The information they have given your client even in lay terms iscontradictory! AIMS http://www.aims.org.uk/has a booklet "Ultrasound, unsound" The approach this women's "Carers"have taken is not consistent with principles of informed choice (check out ANdrea's article at http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/andrea10.html). No-one can do anything to any one else with out their permission, to do so is assault and to have this woman fearful and acting out of fear is coersion (like most women in this position) isagain not appropriate. Also inducing women who are afraid usually results in failed induction more interventions to eventually C/S because adrenaline (the fear hormone) in the system turns the uterus off. If she does not understand what the need for induction is then she needs to ask more questions. If she does not like their answers then she needs to decide if she will submit to their inappropriate behaviours toward her or go get answers AND POSSIBLY CARE and respect from others?? I think we need to say to women that No -one can make any one do what they do not want, and submission is anact for which more women must take responsibilty or stop doing it! Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again. Hi all, Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has been told that her placenta is aging that they will induce her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go. Cheers Philippa ScottBirth Buddies
[ozmidwifery] Video
Title: Let's Keep the Pressure Up Could somebody please remind me of the name of the video by Vicki Chan and Nic Edmonstone that was shown at the opening of the ACMI conference. I would like to order a copy for the library at work. This is very exciting because I work in a tertiary hospital...things are looking up. Sally PS. Where do I order it from?
